French Femenism. .. I'm in a Philosophy of Women class right now (not by choice), professor is a feminist. She's quite possibly the chillest woman alive. Feminists get a bad rep be france FEMINISM Ew no tumblr socialism
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#151 - HARTATTACK (03/03/2013) [-]
Bitches can TRY to destroy the Macho Man but they'll get a whoopin
ooohhhh yeeeeeaaaahhhhhhh
#172 to #151 - John Cena (03/03/2013) [-]
i love you
User avatar #176 to #151 - SgtBaha (03/03/2013) [-]
Great, now I want to snap into some Slim Jims.
User avatar #184 to #17 - killerliquid ONLINE (03/03/2013) [-]
A Krispie Kream shop closed down a few years ago when I was living near it. It got replaced by The Beer Store. Feels bad for my younger self.
#190 to #17 - ellbandito (03/03/2013) [-]
what does this have to do with feminism?

#231 to #17 - miscarriage (03/04/2013) [-]
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Here, I made this a few months back.
#259 - masterboll (03/04/2013) [-]
WHY IS SHE MAKING SENSE???
#262 to #259 - setittowumbo (03/04/2013) [-]
Because she's not a feminist
User avatar #273 to #262 - grubbah (03/04/2013) [-]
Feminazi*
User avatar #274 to #273 - setittowumbo (03/04/2013) [-]
Or sexist Feminist.
#142 - ultracombo (03/03/2013) [-]
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#244 - greenpyro (03/04/2013) [-]
There isn't anything wrong with being a feminist, religious, atheist, gay, or anything like that. Like this women explained her viewpoint, it will get out of hand if people become extremist on a topic, or try to spread their ideals and morals on those who don't want to listen or change.
There isn't anything wrong with being a feminist, religious, atheist, gay, or anything like that. Like this women explained her viewpoint, it will get out of hand if people become extremist on a topic, or try to spread their ideals and morals on those who don't want to listen or change.
#247 to #244 - John Cena (03/04/2013) [-]
**** you I want to b extremist and you don't respekt my rights.
#249 to #247 - greenpyro (03/04/2013) [-]
Keep left, you have no right
User avatar #255 to #247 - Ruspanic (03/04/2013) [-]
You have a right to have extremist views, but that doesn't mean people have to respect them.
#164 - Riot (03/03/2013) [-]
Can't we all just not be jackasses to each other and call it a day?
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#48 - amandaruns (03/03/2013) [-]
I'm in a Philosophy of Women class right now (not by choice), professor is a feminist. She's quite possibly the chillest woman alive. Feminists get a bad rep because of radical feminists, because they're the only ones we hear about. But they're also liberal feminists who are only want equality when women are discriminated. Hating all feminists when it's only some that are **** balls crazy isn't something to rave about.
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#253 to #48 - ahitwo (03/04/2013) [-]
You're confusing feminists to women's rights activists. She really needs to reconsider labeling herself if she refers to herself as "feminist".
#55 to #48 - byposted (03/03/2013) [-]
That's so until these social plights gain power and start placing their inane believes into law.

Feminists need to hang for single-handedly destroying the American family, along with their media accomplices.
#70 to #55 - John Cena (03/03/2013) [-]
I'd say try harder byposted, but on FJ I don't think you need to.
User avatar #61 to #55 - amandaruns (03/03/2013) [-]
I don't think I'm perfectly suited to talk about this because I don't pay too much attention to current feminist movements, but I wouldn't worry too much about their insane beliefs becoming laws considering the equal rights amendment never took off... (In the US, at least). The ERA was passed, but needed 38 states to ratify it within some years. At the end of the time limit, there were only 35 states that ratified it, and it failed. (Thus women's wages can legally be lower than men's) That's the main focus for most feminists now, but if they can't even get this to pass 45 years later, why worry about other laws?
Sorry for the long post.
User avatar #71 to #61 - byposted (03/03/2013) [-]
Feminists already have power with the media. That is power enough, political power is simply symbolic.

Within a generation, as the new one is being raised on the notions of "equality" and "respect," feminists will see themselves with even more power.

Notice the gap between people who view homosexual marriage as acceptable from the baby boomer generation to the upcoming generation. It is huge. That is the power of the media. The media reshaped the views of an entire generation and feminism with it, which will only balloon.
User avatar #160 to #48 - liamdurf ONLINE (03/03/2013) [-]
I think every group gets a bad rap because of radicals.
#221 to #160 - Visual (03/04/2013) [-]
That's very much true.

I went to go watch Gabriel Iglesias live last night, and he told us a story about him being invited to the middle east by the Prince of Saudi Arabia, and when he went to perform, the ******* audience is segregated by gender and the show had to be out in the middle of the desert because religious police don't allow social gatherings. He later goes to meet the Prince who shows him around the palace and even offers Gabriel a ************* $100,000 hunting falcon for FREE. He told him that FOX News paints the middle east as a ******* warzone and that just about everyone is a terrorist.

TL;DR **** FOX News.
User avatar #291 to #221 - punnyjunky ONLINE (03/04/2013) [-]
Faux news you mean?
User avatar #162 to #160 - slyve (03/03/2013) [-]
Except hippies. They all suck and should be held in pens.
#222 to #160 - Visual (03/04/2013) [-]
Gabriel is also apparently the #2 most watched/favorited comedian in Saudi Arabia.
Gabriel is also apparently the #2 most watched/favorited comedian in Saudi Arabia.
#234 - lolerlaura (03/04/2013) [-]
A true feminist doesn't hate men or want to destroy them. All we want is equality. I think the way I see feminism is more like being an equalist (except I think benders still should have the right to bend!) I am for gay rights, straight rights, women's rights and men's rights!

I need feminism because in the year 2012 there were over 1000 pieces of legislation about what rights my uterus has. I need feminism because in some states the transvaginal ultrasound is still alive and kicking and they want to stick it in us not once but twice!

Most of all I need feminism because I am hated for being one.

I also think that false accusations of rape should have just as a severe punishment as the rape would have.

>in b4 tits or gtfo
>in b4 you are a feminazi
User avatar #261 to #234 - thatguywhohasbacon ONLINE (03/04/2013) [-]
You may want to correct that last line about rape, it sounds like you wan't men who are falsely accused to be imprisoned anyways. Do you mean you want the woman who accused the man to be charged? I really hope that's what you meant...
User avatar #266 to #261 - jrondeau **User deleted account** (03/04/2013) [-]
The rational approach taken by her in her argument should lead you to believe the latter.

At least one would think...
User avatar #267 to #266 - thatguywhohasbacon ONLINE (03/04/2013) [-]
I'm just trying to clarify, I've seen people who make perfect sense until the last second and then go full blown crazy.
User avatar #301 to #261 - lolerlaura (03/04/2013) [-]
Alright you got me there. I think that the women who falsely accuse rape should be as severely punished as a rapist would. They **** over an innocent person and make it so actual rape victims have less credibility.
User avatar #308 to #301 - thatguywhohasbacon ONLINE (03/04/2013) [-]
Okay, just making sure, when it comes to matters like this I don't assume anything in case I'm wrong. Thanks for clarifying.
#245 to #234 - John Cena (03/04/2013) [-]
The problem is, it's hard to take you seriously if your primary function is to make men horny. Just put on some make-up and horn up some men. It will feel natural to you. You are build for it. And for nothing else.
User avatar #252 to #234 - neoexdeath ONLINE (03/04/2013) [-]
What if you're in a Designated Raping Area?
#263 to #252 - solarisofcelestia ONLINE (03/04/2013) [-]
What exactly is a "Designated Raping Area?" and where might I find such a place?
What exactly is a "Designated Raping Area?" and where might I find such a place?
User avatar #268 to #234 - Ruspanic (03/04/2013) [-]
It seems your main reason for being a feminist has to do with abortion.
90% of the abortion debate is basically a misunderstanding or miscommunication between the two sides. Pro-lifers will shout about baby-killers and pro-choicers will shout about women's rights, and neither side will ever change their minds because they hold conflicting premises.

To pro-lifers, abortion is simply not an issue of women's rights, because to them the fetus has a right to life that must be protected. Just as women (and men) don't have a right to kill their toddlers (they are even charged with abuse or neglect if they don't take care of them properly), so pro-lifers think women have no right to kill their unborn offspring.
The pro-life position is not about controlling women's bodies, it's about protecting the lives of what they see as innocent and helpless victims.

And I think you're familiar with the pro-choice view so I won't bother explaining it.

Therefore the crux of the abortion debate must focus on whether the fetus has a right to life, and why or why not. Unless you can somehow logically circumvent this issue without resolving it, arguments about women's rights are irrelevant because they are founded upon an unresolved and disputed premise: that the unborn have no right to life and no stake in the debate.
User avatar #278 to #268 - jrondeau **User deleted account** (03/04/2013) [-]
But women's rights is still dragged into the abortion debate. Women don't want to undergo what many would simply call a humiliating and unnecessary procedure because some old white guys have a different opinion than they do. While it's not PC to say so, the primary reason that the trans-vaginal ultrasound is used in anti-abortion states is to deter women from having abortions by embarrassing them in one of the worst ways possible. Even if they have the interests of what they perceive to be a child's best interests at mind, they are still bringing women's rights into play and thus it is relevant.

Even if you don't think abortion is right, you're probably insane if you think shoving a giant wand up a woman's vag in the name of your cause doesn't involve women's rights.
User avatar #304 to #278 - lolerlaura (03/04/2013) [-]
A popular name for those bills in the feminist channels is "the state of rape" bills. Last year I believe at least 7 states tried to make getting a rod shoved up a woman's vagina to shame her into not getting an abortion made into law. All of these were fought by activists all over the country but it is just like SOPA/ACTA because it keeps on coming back.

If a woman is raped by someone and wants an abortion she should not have to be raped by the state to get it.
User avatar #288 to #278 - Ruspanic (03/04/2013) [-]
Okay, yes. The transvaginal ultrasound is something else. There are less invasive and humiliating ways of performing an ultrasound.

I don't know if you're right about the embarrassment-as-deterrence thing, but the ultrasound image of the fetus IS supposed to act as deterrence, or at least get women to consider the consequences of their decision. It's the same reasoning behind picketing with graphic pictures of aborted fetuses.

But the transvaginal ultrasound is a tangential issue that is not essential to the abortion debate as a whole, since it's just one of many specific methods of deterring abortion.
Despite their unjustified methods, these "old white guys" are basically justified in trying to prevent abortion, given the premises that they hold as true. They are not necessarily anti-feminist or anti-women's rights.
User avatar #292 to #288 - jrondeau **User deleted account** (03/04/2013) [-]
I agree with you on most of what you're saying, though I definitely hold a different opinion than you on the embarrassment aspect of trans-vaginal ultrasounds.

While anti-abortion groups are acting according to their way of thinking, their methods don't only go against the pro-abortion groups (even if that isn't the intent) and these other groups are within their rights to protest.
#305 to #288 - lolerlaura (03/04/2013) [-]
The thing that many people (especially lawmakers!!!) tend to forget is that EVERY WOMAN KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT SHE IS DOING when she is trying to get an abortion. It is a heartbreaking and horrible thing to know that you are putting a human life to an end. For as long as it exists inside of her a woman begins to get attached to the fetus. We dream of it's possible future and are very emotional about the whole thing.

I had a pregnancy scare about a year and a half ago. My boyfriend and I used condoms every time (I have a hormonal imbalance that makes my periods last a month if I try and use birth control D:) but I still managed to get pregnant somehow. I scheduled an appointment with Planned Parenthood (luckily Washington State is cool and hasn't defunded them) to get an abortion. The days leading up to it I was a wreck. I have Poly Cystic Ovarian Syndrome which makes my chances of having a kid next to none so this broke my heart because my dream is to be a mother one day. I ended up having a miscarriage so I didn't have to go through with the 800$ procedure though.

TLDR: Women know exactly what they are doing and don't need to be shamed into not getting an abortion.
#303 to #268 - lolerlaura (03/04/2013) [-]
Well my argument on abortion is that you cannot be pro-life if you are ok with the woman dying which most pro-lifers I have come across are. Making abortion illegal is not going to make it so women stop having abortions. They are just going to go through more dangerous paths to get them and most likely die during the procedure. Being ok with women dying in back alley abortions is not pro-life.

Another thing is that a lot of pro-lifers are pro war. That makes absolutely no sense to me.

Pic related that is me at a women's rights rally in Seattle last April.
User avatar #238 to #234 - weenieandthebutt (03/04/2013) [-]
I'm all down for equal rights but I hope you're the type who actually accepts the fact that there is a biological and evolutionary difference between man and woman. We're different but still equal.
User avatar #311 to #238 - lolerlaura (03/04/2013) [-]
I understand that we are different biologically but I think we should be equal spiritually and to the government.

I think it is ****** up that insurance will cover Viagra, Penis pumps and vasectamys but there is a giant **** fest about birth control.
#239 to #234 - jrondeau **User deleted account** (03/04/2013) [-]
I agree wholeheartedly. Unfortunately most people I see are convinced that the word feminism implies a hatred for men, which leads to a general dislike of the movement. However, I would like to see the equalist side of the movement focus more on some of the consequences of their argument that they may not like as much (e.g being drafted or changing the societal stigma on female-on-male domestic violence). I'm not implying that these are necessarily your views, though.   
   
The issue with feminism though, as with many movements, is that people assume that the whole lot is bad based on a few fundamentalist nutjobs.
I agree wholeheartedly. Unfortunately most people I see are convinced that the word feminism implies a hatred for men, which leads to a general dislike of the movement. However, I would like to see the equalist side of the movement focus more on some of the consequences of their argument that they may not like as much (e.g being drafted or changing the societal stigma on female-on-male domestic violence). I'm not implying that these are necessarily your views, though.

The issue with feminism though, as with many movements, is that people assume that the whole lot is bad based on a few fundamentalist nutjobs.
#309 to #239 - lolerlaura (03/04/2013) [-]
About 6 months ago I got into a looooooong argument on here about feminism with a guy. he was calling me a feminazi and saying that because I am a feminist I must hate men. By the end of the conversation I broke the internet. I got him to apologize to me and even agree with me on a lot of my points.

Its like saying that all Christianity is like the Westboro Baptist Church or that all Muslims are members of Al Queda.
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#97 - mrblueftw (03/03/2013) [-]
>hate feminists
>like lesbians
the boulder is conflicted
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User avatar #159 to #2 - liamdurf ONLINE (03/03/2013) [-]
And you have Napoleon to thank for most of that.
User avatar #3 to #2 - wacemindu (03/03/2013) [-]
Yes... by surrendering
#4 to #3 - daspopo (03/03/2013) [-]
Actually the french have a very high win/loss ratio and in fact have rarely surrendered.
Your joke is only amusing to uneducated plebs.
User avatar #7 to #4 - AnonsForSure (03/03/2013) [-]
>Tried to call France
>It was occupied
#8 to #7 - LeviV (03/03/2013) [-]
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User avatar #9 to #7 - wacemindu (03/03/2013) [-]
Yeah but as a modern nation no one likes them.
User avatar #14 to #9 - ponchosdm ONLINE (03/03/2013) [-]
lol same for US
User avatar #148 to #14 - wacemindu (03/03/2013) [-]
Yeah but I'm not from Murica.
#10 to #4 - intrepidy (03/03/2013) [-]
Yes a very high win/loss ratio.

So, hows French indochina these days? Or Algeria? Haiti? Spain? Italy? French India? Quebec?
#73 to #10 - John Cena (03/03/2013) [-]
and what of the US colonies? Oh that's right, they don't exist anymore either, save the two who stayed by choice.
#104 to #73 - intrepidy (03/03/2013) [-]
A peaceful release of a colony isn't as bad as a failed war to keep it. Also, i'm not American anon.
User avatar #12 to #3 - badgerbaiting (03/03/2013) [-]
The French are descended from the Gauls (who conquered Rome under Brennus) and the Franks (who spent most of their time at war with everyone, Moors, Danes, Arabs, you name it). They also have fought the most wars out of any nation in the world. Do some research next time pal.
#170 - ekiouja (03/03/2013) [-]
He's got this
User avatar #203 - spangle (03/04/2013) [-]
Oh American feminists...

http://femitheistreborn.blogspot. com/2012/09/international-castration-day-refined.html
#218 to #203 - John Cena (03/04/2013) [-]
Guys, chill out. Every crazy with a computer can post all their opinions on the internet. These people are a small minority that will never be in power.
User avatar #207 to #203 - anthonyh (03/04/2013) [-]
That bitch is retarded
#205 to #203 - themanwithnoplan (03/04/2013) [-]
Dat first paragraph.
Dat first paragraph.
#233 to #203 - lazaman (03/04/2013) [-]
10/10
10/10
#226 to #203 - Gamerpotato ONLINE (03/04/2013) [-]
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User avatar #213 to #203 - taintedangel (03/04/2013) [-]
...wut?

Do these psycho bitches even know how procreation works?
User avatar #215 to #203 - srapture (03/04/2013) [-]
"Girls of all ages will attend, lining the streets to cheer and applaud the males as they are given the opportunity to join the rest of civilized society by being pacified."
It scares me that people like this aren't in mental asylums.
#171 - thisusernameisalie (03/03/2013) [-]
Finally...someone understands.
#189 - avatarsarefornoobs ONLINE (03/03/2013) [-]
sigh no funny just **** i already know
#217 to #189 - comanderspy (03/04/2013) [-]
oh boy, i haven't had a hearty laugh like that in a long time!
#235 to #189 - schneidend (03/04/2013) [-]
It took me a second or two, but then I nearly spit out my Bonk!
#86 - Reeon (03/03/2013) [-]
A ... a sensible feminist
#37 - captaindropkik (03/03/2013) [-]
I WILL WIFE HER AND TREAT HER AS MY EQUAL ALL DAY LONG
User avatar #26 - youarenotspecial (03/03/2013) [-]
I haven't seen one anti-feminist post here that wasn't based off an incredibly skewed idea of what feminism *actually* is. You are going to find nutcases and inconsistencies in every "social-justice" cause, but that doesn't take away from the message at the heart of the thing.

The fact that men are less likely to report sexual abuse, get custody of their children, have more dangerous jobs etc is actually because society holds such misogynistic views (and, yes, this includes many women, too). Men are supposed to be "strong." I.E. not like a women, so sexual abuse "shouldn't happen to them." Woman traditionally are the ones who want kids, not men. Women are delicate flowers who can't take care of themselves, so men have to do the tough/dangerous work.

All of these issues are apples from the same ******** tree. p:

I'll take my red thumbs now.
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User avatar #33 to #26 - partnerintroll (03/03/2013) [-]
Thumb up for the comment #26
Thumb down for comment #30

No one likes an elitist
#38 to #26 - theism (03/03/2013) [-]
Technically those views in that context would be misandry.
User avatar #52 to #38 - youarenotspecial (03/03/2013) [-]
Do you mean what I said about men in cases of sexual abuse and divorce? Yes, I suppose you're right. But men are treated like **** in these cases because they show "feminine" traits. Which is "weak."

#54 to #52 - theism (03/03/2013) [-]
Exactly, and it's misandry to assume that men can never show those traits,just like it's misogyny to assume women can never be strong or independent.
User avatar #58 to #54 - youarenotspecial (03/03/2013) [-]
Yep. It's all the same ******** , really.
#60 to #58 - theism (03/03/2013) [-]
Honestly gender roles are stupid.
User avatar #28 to #26 - tehweave (03/03/2013) [-]
tl;dr
User avatar #30 to #28 - youarenotspecial (03/03/2013) [-]
Of course, I forgot where I was. FJ will always bitch about things, but never have an intelligent discussion about them.

Let's talk about Minecraft and reposts now.
User avatar #44 to #26 - luidias (03/03/2013) [-]
The idea isn't so skewed when the portrayal is accurate for such a large portion of north american feminism.

Naturally, not all feminists are these extremist "hate all men" types, but there are enough that are to merit a response from the rest of the population.

Anti-feminist posts only portray this so-called 'skewed' view of feminism, because this is exactly the kind of feminism we are against. why would we make anti-feminist posts about the non-crazy feminists when we don't have anything against them (and when in fact, many of us support their cause)?

tl;dr don't blame us for disliking militant feminists. Instead, blame the militant feminists for misrepresenting the feminist community.
User avatar #49 to #44 - youarenotspecial (03/03/2013) [-]
I agree to an extent. Personally, it's a little confusing for me because the feminist I listen to aren't the militant ones, so, even if a lot of these people exist, they're not the ones I've been paying attention to. Maybe I haven't been hanging out around the right places, but I'm not sure if I would say "large percentage."

I was just pointing out that a lot of people tend to equate psycho feminist with feminist in general. But yeah, I think we can all agree anyone who is militant about their beliefs is irritating.
User avatar #51 to #49 - luidias (03/03/2013) [-]
agreed. I'm not so sure if there ARE that many militant feminists out there, but they do get a lot of media attention, as well as attention from communities such as FJ and Reddit, who tend to bring attention to them.

In other words, people associate feminism with these militant feminists because they're the only ones we really see much.
User avatar #53 to #51 - youarenotspecial (03/03/2013) [-]
People are going to flock to whatever causes the most controversy, I guess.
#92 - weirddark ONLINE (03/03/2013) [-]
I salute you madam
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