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#19 - juicymucus

Reply+152

(02/24/2013)[-]

MFW music piracy. Hope you guys know that, aside from the obvious corporate bands, real bands arent a bunch of millionaires. They actually have to depend on people BUYING their CDs/Vinyls/etc to make a living. MP3s help but not nearly as much.

Look into some of your favorite bands, if theyre not some greedy corporate group making music strictly for fame/money I garuntee you they struggle with music piracy. Bash me all you want and try to justify your pirating ways but this is fact.

#27 to #19 - heartlessrobot#129 on commentsRank#129

Reply+78

(02/24/2013)[-]

As soon as I get a job with a respectable income, then yeah, I'll buy music, but until then, they can wait.

#191 to #27 - pokemonstheshiz

Reply+6

(02/25/2013)[-]

^all of my THIS

#53 to #19 - Pompano

Reply+18

(02/25/2013)[-]

You think music piracy isn't a big deal?
Because of people who steal music on the internet, Brittany spears had to downgrade from a Gulfstream 5 to a Gulfstream 4. Because of thieves, musicians are being force to live a life of mere semi-luxry

#33 to #19 - sirbrentcoe

Reply+15

(02/24/2013)[-]

I pay my 10 bucks a month to a digital media service, it's on that service to pay out to the artist. if I like an artist enough, I will go out and buy their cd. it's been a while since I've bought an actual CD though.

#34 to #19 - zepherius

Reply+11

(02/24/2013)[-]

meanwhile, i go to a 3DG concert and they told us they have enough money, to go pirate their music if we want, it doesnt matter to them and last i checked they arent a "corporate band"

#70 to #19 - allwinterswhite

Reply+6

(02/25/2013)[-]

This is mainly applicable to the metal scenes and most underground alt/punk and indie. When it comes down too it I've seen up close bands get ripped off by venues and people pirate their music, struggle because to even tour it costs money coming from their own pocket. I've seen this happen from little alt punk boy bands jamming in their garage to well known black metal bands that roam Canada and have a name for themselves.

In a way, however, you gotta learn some to know some, and in the end if it was really meant to be, you'll come out on top just fine. Even then, it's not easy to keep up with it. To be famous is a lot of work, to be popular is a lot of work. You can't just walk up onto a stage and play a couple songs off your discography, locally or nationally known, and walk away with money in your pocket to blow at the bar with your mates.

In all and all, it's mostly the underground that hurts over this. It's usually only the musicians and true fans that actually care and understand this, making it easier half of the time to point out who the posers are, if you love something, you put yourself into it. Not that I'm saying people who can't afford to buy discography's or merch complete posers, they're not. I can image they go to shows and show support. Even that alone, not just the money, helps push bands along far in the long run whether you know it or not.

#186 to #19 - birdofprey

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(02/25/2013)[-]

I'm not for or against piracy of any kind, but I'm just gonna leave this here.

Just enlarge if you can't read it.

#67 to #19 - memeinmycoffee

Reply+5

(02/25/2013)[-]

As someone who makes music as a solo artist and with a band, it's much more important to me to have people listen to my music, not to make money off of it.

I put my music on Soundcloud because I want people to listen to it and I don't care if I make money off of it.

#104 to #67 - anon id: 1fbcb0fe

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(02/25/2013)[-]

So does that mean you have another job to actually make a living? If so, that completely changes your argument. That just means the music is more of a hobby, which is fine, but can't be used to describe the musicians that look to music as their career.

#294 to #104 - memeinmycoffee

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(02/25/2013)[-]

Well, currently I'm not dependent. If I were playing music to make money, though, it would be more about playing live shows.

#49 to #19 - smashingkills

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(02/25/2013)[-]

#35 to #19 - appleyjack**User deleted account**

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#31 to #19 - radamski

Reply+4

(02/24/2013)[-]

I try to support my favorite bands to keep them making the music I love. Be that buying merch, going to shows, CDs and the like.

People don't seem to realise that piracy really is going to be the downfall of the music industry. It would be amazing for bands to sell 1 million records like they used to, now 100k is the target to hit.

Now you'll see bands moving to kickstarter programms to help with the production costs, mainly because they aren't getting enough money from the labels to make records, and it's sad.

#114 to #31 - aussiepridevil

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(02/25/2013)[-]

my avatar is much better than yours! c;

#127 to #19 - siridontcare

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(02/25/2013)[-]

.....Indie people are more so pro pirate. They say it spreads their music around and when people become a fan they buy out of respect and so in the long run indie get more people buying. Atleast this is the logic explained to me by music people I follow. Even mojang has responded to tweets that say "I really wanna play your game but have no money" "Just pirate it"

#29 to #19 - sketchE

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(02/24/2013)[-]

fact musicians make more for shows than they will for cds. for instance the rolling stones did a tour recently and made seven million a show. you probably dont remember the time when people would hand out their cds so that people could hear their music and would want to come to shows. its still done today over the web. reverb nation is just one site where artists hand out their music to gain attention

#41 to #29 - anon id: 3c525683

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(02/25/2013)[-]

You have no idea how expensive touring is, have you?

#45 to #41 - sketchE

Reply0

(02/25/2013)[-]

*do you
and yes touring is expensive but you make a lot more doing it. on top of that the artist gets paid a higher percent of the money from tours, besides the artist shouldnt be in it for the money. he should enjoy performing and touring. cant get a big venue? get a smaller local one. if your good enough itll probably be pure profit for you since a good band showing up to a local place brings tons of attention to the local place

#66 to #45 - anon id: 3c525683

Reply0

(02/25/2013)[-]

Average independent bands get about 50 dollars a night. Your way of thinking is really out of touch with reality.

#291 to #66 - sketchE

Reply0

(02/25/2013)[-]

so if they only make 50 a night you think people are lining up to buy their cds?so fifty dollars a night or two after the recording studio takes their cut, which would you want?

#89 to #66 - ilikebigdick

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(02/25/2013)[-]

yeah $50 per band member maybe. And if they're making that money from gigging they also probably have day jobs. My uncle used to gig weekly at a bar and he got about $75 per night

#225 to #19 - drastronomy

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(02/25/2013)[-]

Mozart and Vivaldi are not in deperate need of money, i believe....

#198 to #19 - allclopprsmustpie**User deleted account**

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#92 to #19 - Denver

Reply+1

(02/25/2013)[-]

1)Pirate a song/album
2)Send the artist(s) what you would have paid
3)Greedy Record labels don't recieve an unfair 80% of that money
4)???
5)Profit!

#46 to #19 - tocoolforyouinajar

Reply+1

(02/25/2013)[-]

I think pirating music is the best thing ever, if i like the songs enough after listening to the pirate then ill but the CD. If i didn't like the songs enough than they didn't deserve my money >:D

#269 to #19 - anon id: adf0e9c2

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(02/25/2013)[-]

The only time i but music is when its in person from the band where i know they are getting 100% of the profits also people need to make sure when they are buying merchandise they are buying it off of the bands personal site and not the labels to maximize how much of the money is getting back to the band to make sure they can continue to tour.

#232 to #19 - daentraya

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(02/25/2013)[-]

As soon as i can find a place to easily obtain all the albums i want without having to buy them over the internet, i will buy some. Hell, if i met any of the bands in real life i'd be throwing money all over them

#209 to #19 - IncarceratedNinja

Reply0

(02/25/2013)[-]

bands make their main dough through touring

#204 to #19 - bookyle

Reply0

(02/25/2013)[-]

Going to their concert will help out a lot more than buying CD/mp3. When you buy their CD a lot of the profit goes to the record company and the manufacture of the CD, in the end the band don't get a lot.

#200 to #19 - anon id: 5e5d1fa9

Reply0

(02/25/2013)[-]

I can't afford to shell out the cash to support my music habits, it's incredibly expensive and I don't think it's quite worth it unless I absolutely love that band. There are two bands in the entire world that actually pay for.

#108 to #19 - thatmetalguy

Reply0

(02/25/2013)[-]

What if he's not a concerned music fan, but really a big time musician who just wants to make us feel bad and stop pirating?

#84 to #19 - greenthegunstar

Reply0

(02/25/2013)[-]

That's why I don't pirate music... pirate decade-old video games that nobody's making a profit off of anymore.

#74 to #19 - Screenshotman

Reply0

(02/25/2013)[-]

I only pirate when I absolutely can't afford it, otherwise I buy it to support the artist.

#36 to #19 - codyxvasco

Reply0

(02/24/2013)[-]

I'm illegally downloading my friend Kenzie's songs the second they go on her Facebook, but at every CD release you bet your sweet ass i'm buying 2 copies.

#106 to #36 - elmusicojmk

Reply0

(02/25/2013)[-]

That's great of you, but there aren't a lot of people doing the same, unfortunately.

#26 to #19 - anon id: b86ff593

Reply0

(02/24/2013)[-]

HA. nice try dude, but the record labels are the ones making the money. bands get more cash from touring. also, please try to justify $1.29 to purchase a single song

#246 to #26 - anon id: 63decb34

Reply0

(02/25/2013)[-]

I think people really misjudge how much a simple $1.29 can actually be for the musician. Millions of people think the same exact way and yes they only get a small portion of that money, but think of it if those millions actually bought the song instead of pirate it. That would be a nice chunk of cash going to the musicians, but a lot of people have the same mentality you have which causes a lot of these musicians to not get that much in the end aside from touring.

#30 to #26 - anon id: 3c525683

Reply0

(02/24/2013)[-]

The label gets probably 90 to 95% of that money but they are the ones that pay the band, helps to fund their tour (touring is quite expensive) and pay for the band's studio time.

#128 to #30 - LiamNeeson

Reply+5

(02/25/2013)[-]

"Help" fund means they pay for it but make the band pay them back. I'm not kidding, all music videos, recorded songs, and tours have to eventually be paid back by the band directly and not through sales.

#110 to #26 - jesusnipple

Reply-6

(02/25/2013)[-]

"justify $1.29 for a single song". Okay, buy the whole album, problem solved

#238 to #110 - basicargentinian

Reply+3

(02/25/2013)[-]

The whole album costs about $12 and has 10, maybe 12 songs...you're still paying at least a dollar a song.

#293 to #238 - jesusnipple

Reply0

(02/25/2013)[-]

It helps expand your listening and most albums have 12 or more, if not then you're getting ripped off or the songs are extremely long. Buying one song doesn't make too much sense, if you get the whole album you get to listen to more of that artist's songs rather than just one over and over and over again

#295 to #293 - basicargentinian

Reply0

(02/25/2013)[-]

That still doesn't change the price of the song, which not everybody can afford, specially given the piracy option.

I do believe that when MegaBox (Kim dotcom's new project) gets going this might be fixed by cuttung the label as an intermediary.

#296 to #295 - jesusnipple

Reply0

(02/25/2013)[-]

It's $12, just don't buy 50 albums at once, wait a while between each purchase and you'll treasure them even more

#210 to #19 - amsel

Reply-1

(02/25/2013)[-]

At a time with the cost of producing music was high, this was a good argument. Nowadays, would-be starving musicians should have a ******* job. You can buy yourself some pretty decent recording equipment for under 1000 bucks total (for a high quality USB interface, microphone, cables, and software). Plus, with today's visual editing GUIs, editing is a breeze. And distribution costs are literally non-existant when sold over the internet. Making music has become a hobby, not a profession. In my opinion, all musicians should give up trying to sell music over the internet and should make their money off of concerts, merchandise, and or having a real job.

#207 to #19 - CXJokerXD

Reply-1

(02/25/2013)[-]

Well actually, bands make most of their money nowadays from touring rather then album sales. But yeah if you take away the tours, sponsors, and all of the other free **** they get on the side for being famous then yeah, i would imagine that royalties in albums and such would mean a whole lot.

#57 to #19 - mydogpikachu

Reply-1

(02/25/2013)[-]

as of me it's emulators i hate emulators

#61 to #57 - telfyr

Reply+1

(02/25/2013)[-]

most emulators are unavailable any other way, as they are discontinued, thats why you emulate

#76 to #57 - fuckyouiamcat

Reply0

(02/25/2013)[-]

I think emulators help with the fact the most older consoles are impossible to find. I have an emulator for gameboy for example. I can't get a real one. (I live in Peru right now.)

#152 to #19 - juicymucus

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(02/25/2013)[-]

I make a post about how I feel about piracy, leave for a few hours and return to a top 80 comment and a comment war.

People, Im just saying if you truly like a band support them, dont steal from them. I have favorite bands that suffer from this and have had to delay putting albums out for years because of it. Most the musicians I like dont make music for cash/fame they do it to make good music but thats a costly thing to do.
The few bucks a band makes when you buy their music puts them that much closer to being able to release new music, theyre probably not using it to buy a mansion or some ****.

Also someone mentioned this applies mostly to metal/punk/alt bands and yeah that is mostly where Im coming from but Im sure even mainstream rock bands experience the same thing. Just wanted to clarify my statement as I seem to have frazzled you all.

#211 to #152 - pokemonstheshiz

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(02/25/2013)[-]

Things like this make me glad I listen to edm. A lot of people put their stuff out for free, or sell on bandcamp so you can donate if you like them but you're not deprived of their music if you have no money like I do. I'd imagine it's much more difficult for metal/punk/alt because high quality recording is costly, so I feel their pain there

#51 - sixty

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(02/25/2013)[-]

#60 to #51 - seelcudoom

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#134 to #60 - pitvipertacos**User deleted account**

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#68 to #51 - jokingcargo

Reply+29

(02/25/2013)[-]

oh there he goes again...

#59 to #51 - certifiedidiot

Reply+14

(02/25/2013)[-]

Immagine the whole trouble of having only one tv with a vhs machine in the family living room and you having a pornographic movie, that's stealthy fapping right there.

#64 to #59 - fuzzysixx

Reply0

(02/25/2013)[-]

Imagine how bad it was in 1975.

#80 - mishaestrin

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(02/25/2013)[-]

#233 to #80 - mcbmichael

Reply+1

(02/25/2013)[-]

its called google images

#287 to #80 - larryqa**User deleted account**

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#213 to #80 - anon id: 56891956

Reply0

(02/25/2013)[-]

then pirate the album artwork or are you just stupid?

#149 to #80 - satoshileex

Reply0

(02/25/2013)[-]

simply find it yourself or is that too much work

#161 to #149 - swikkid

Reply+1

(02/25/2013)[-]

Its called a joke

#162 to #161 - satoshileex

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(02/25/2013)[-]

son do you know how long i've been internet? i know i was just thinking out loud about what most people do if they care enough for the pictures

#169 to #162 - swikkid

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(02/25/2013)[-]

And I am just telling you that it is a joke and it is not to be taken seriously, and saying do you know how long ive been on the internet is a bit of a douche thing to say

#173 to #169 - satoshileex

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(02/25/2013)[-]

that was a joke i was not being serious but sorry if it sounded douchy, and again i said i know

#176 to #173 - swikkid

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(02/25/2013)[-]

Oh sorry then

#177 to #176 - satoshileex

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(02/25/2013)[-]

no problem again my bad in the first place

#131 to #80 - skinless

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#229 to #131 - dayasalion

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(02/25/2013)[-]

Then you're literally ****** retarded.

#9 - retrochris

Reply+61

(02/24/2013)[-]

old school is best school

#13 to #9 - pineapplechunkss

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(02/24/2013)[-]

#88 - mishaestrin

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(02/25/2013)[-]

#81 - mishaestrin

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(02/25/2013)[-]

#242 to #81 - failtolawl

Reply+4

(02/25/2013)[-]

why are you pirating little Wayne?

#116 to #81 - viewtifulbro

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(02/25/2013)[-]

#285 to #81 - anon id: bc449fb5

Reply0

(02/25/2013)[-]

>implying Lil Wayne is an artist who makes music

#111 to #81 - hippiedestroyer

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(02/25/2013)[-]

i literally fell out of my chair

#69 - iamchicken

Reply+45

(02/25/2013)[-]

Pirate related.

#99 to #69 - lostinthemusic

Reply0

(02/25/2013)[-]

I miss Demonoid.

#93 to #69 - wabbitat

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(02/25/2013)[-]

Megaupload was resurrected.

#172 to #93 - hockudain

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(02/25/2013)[-]

It's not the same...

#299 to #172 - wabbitat

Reply0

(02/26/2013)[-]

-.-

It's the exact same with small user interface changes and more powerful servers.

#300 to #299 - hockudain

Reply0

(02/26/2013)[-]

It doesn't have the files it used to...

#301 to #300 - wabbitat

Reply0

(02/26/2013)[-]

Well no ****, the US government seized them. The site itself was resurrected.

#302 to #301 - hockudain

Reply0

(02/26/2013)[-]

I know that.
But unless people upload lots of crap to it again, it won't interest me.

#113 to #93 - hippiedestroyer

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(02/25/2013)[-]

L

\INK

#118 to #113 - viewtifulbro

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(02/25/2013)[-]

mega.co.nz/ Boom!

#157 to #118 - KillinTime#256 on commentsRank#256

Reply+1

(02/25/2013)[-]

Wait, .NZ?

Does this mean I, as an Australian, can finally actually download files at a reasonable rate?

GLORIOUS

#195 - zombiemanic

Reply+40

(02/25/2013)[-]

step 1) get liquidized blu tack
step 2) learn magic to spawn records
step 3) get a bowl of tomato sauce and pour all of blu tack and magical record
step 4) have a tomato sauce record