Point of view. Benedict Arnold betrayed the Americans as he was loyal to the crown. George Washington betrayed the crown as he was loyal to the Americans. Jeffe
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Point of view. Benedict Arnold betrayed the Americans as he was loyal to the crown. George Washington betrayed the crown as he was loyal to the Americans. Jeffe

Benedict Arnold betrayed the Americans as he was loyal to the crown.
George Washington betrayed the crown as he was loyal to the Americans.
Jefferson Davis conquered the slaves while he tried to liberate CSA.
Abraham Lincoln conquered the CSA while he tried to liberate the slave.
TheodoreVan Kirk was a genocidal war hero when he dropped the nuke.
Hirohito was a genocidal war hero when he slaughtered more Asians than Hitler did to the number of Jews.
Kim Jong-un is...

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User avatar #26 - megaton (02/25/2013) [-]
i am confused whos point of view is this from.
User avatar #31 to #26 - herecomesjohnny (02/25/2013) [-]
british with british, americans with americans, and americans with japanese
#7 - wowewowe (02/24/2013) [-]
Hirohito was a puppet controlled by the Military leaders of Japan; that's why he wasn't tried for his war crimes
#15 to #7 - John Cena (02/24/2013) [-]
Sort of, he had power but was bound by traditions. He did however participate greatly in WWII and broke several traditions. He played a great role in the Japanese army, but Tojo & co did most of it. He was kept because it would be easier to stabilize and get the country back on it's feet with the emperor than without. Several people were against this, but the American general whose name escapes me, and who was leading the pacific war. He recommended he should stay emperor and not be tried.
#21 to #15 - zenethe ONLINE (02/25/2013) [-]
was it McArthur or was that further down the road in like Vietnam? or wasn't Vietnam Westmoreland? I think you're thinking McArthur
#30 to #21 - John Cena (02/25/2013) [-]
Yeah I believe it was McArthur. Also why is this tumbed down? It is more correct than what wowewowe said. Ah well, doesn't matter, not like I have an account.
User avatar #2 - ilikeeatingcheese (02/24/2013) [-]
Loyalist means you support the crown dude
User avatar #3 to #2 - lolwatthe (02/24/2013) [-]
Royalist*
User avatar #4 to #3 - ilikeeatingcheese (02/24/2013) [-]
No I spelled it right.
User avatar #5 to #4 - lolwatthe (02/24/2013) [-]
Royalists were those loyal to the crown, Loyalist can be anyone who is in support of the current government, not just a monarchy.
User avatar #8 to #6 - lolwatthe (02/24/2013) [-]
loyalists plural of loy·al·ist (Noun)
Noun

1. A person who remains loyal to the established ruler or government, esp. in the face of a revolt.
2. A colonist of the American revolutionary period who supported the British cause; a Tory.

You're using the second definition, also it still fits into the definition, but still you were saying that they only support a crown, I was correcting you since they support any established government.
User avatar #10 to #8 - ilikeeatingcheese (02/24/2013) [-]
Why does it matter? You're ignoring the main point that George Washington was not a loyalist
User avatar #11 to #10 - lolwatthe (02/24/2013) [-]
I never said he was, the main point from my point of view was to correct the term that you used.
User avatar #12 to #11 - ilikeeatingcheese (02/24/2013) [-]
But it wasn't in that situation it would be a loyalist because its the american revolution vernacular.
User avatar #13 to #12 - lolwatthe (02/24/2013) [-]
You know what, lets just stop debating and say we're right in our own point of view, ok?
User avatar #53 to #13 - ilikeeatingcheese (02/25/2013) [-]
Fair enough truce. And pitvipertacos leave the anon alone. Just like his parents did.
#14 to #12 - John Cena (02/24/2013) [-]
haha, you must be the stupidest and most ignorant piece of **** out there. C´mon, how can you be so stupid? Go kill yourself or just make sure that you will not breed, because you are cancer.
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#41 - psykojet (02/25/2013) [-]
How dare you insult items
User avatar #48 to #41 - eclecticparadigm **User deleted account** (02/25/2013) [-]
I just did, she doesn't understand English.
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User avatar #29 to #19 - eclecticparadigm **User deleted account** (02/25/2013) [-]
Nuke testing again
User avatar #16 - TheOriginalNerd (02/24/2013) [-]
washington wasnt always a loyalist though
User avatar #18 - vileghas (02/24/2013) [-]
I wouldn't be too quick to judge Kim Jong-Un... He did win the people's choice of Time's Person of the yea 2012.. Just sayin
#17 - intrepidy (02/24/2013) [-]
Actually that isn't true regarding benedict, he intially supported America, but he got betrayed and screwed over plenty of times by your government to the point were he switched sides.   
   
source:Cracked.com
Actually that isn't true regarding benedict, he intially supported America, but he got betrayed and screwed over plenty of times by your government to the point were he switched sides.

source:Cracked.com
User avatar #43 - metalbass (02/25/2013) [-]
TheodoreVan Kirk had no say in the nuke. He was like any other soldier, and was given orders to fly over Hiroshima and drop the nuke. He didn't know its power or anything. He was just following orders
#47 to #43 - BuffaloSpringfield (02/25/2013) [-]
I've been at the mercy of men just following orders.
I've been at the mercy of men just following orders.
User avatar #54 to #47 - metalbass (02/25/2013) [-]
So? Don't blame them. Blame the men giving the orders
#56 to #54 - BuffaloSpringfield (02/26/2013) [-]
*sigh* It's a quote from the movie
User avatar #57 to #56 - metalbass (02/26/2013) [-]
oh... im an idiot
#37 - fattyacid (02/25/2013) [-]
If you want to get technical, Lincoln wasn't a conqueror or a liberator, Washington was not a loyalist (patriot or traitor, take your pick), and Jefferson Davis was not a conqueror.

Lincoln was quelling a rebellion or reuniting a split nation, either one.
Washington was a rebel (or a traitor to the crown) and the term loyalist was reserved for those loyal to British rule.
Davis didn't really conquer anything. His attacks offered him control over tracts of territory that lasted less than a few years.

See, a history major is good for something. Just kidding, it's useless.
#24 - John Cena (02/25/2013) [-]
>Lincoln
>went to war to free the slaves

This is gross historical revisionism. Lincoln did not give two ***** about the slaves, did not believe it was his right to end slavery and was just as racist as every other white person of his era
#36 to #24 - thethc (02/25/2013) [-]
He did want to end slavery, but he originally wanted to ship the slaves back to Africa.
User avatar #40 to #36 - karson (02/25/2013) [-]
I have to agree with anon. Lincoln was quite racist. Slaves weren't even made an issue until 1863, when the war started in 1861.
User avatar #50 to #40 - bknob (02/25/2013) [-]
From what I've read, Lincoln was totally racist (as you said) but was against slavery as a whole. He wasn't for freeing the slave because they were black, but just because they were slaves. I read that it was because as a kid he was forced to work at a farm without pay and found it despicable to do any labor without compensation or pay, which was why he was against slavery. He was still racists, just like most others in that time period. It actually surprises most people to hear that he was racist.

tl;dr Lincoln was against slavery as a concept, not against racism, as he was still racist himself.
#55 to #40 - thethc (02/26/2013) [-]
The Emancipation Proclamation wasn't made until 1863, but that's only because Lincoln couldn't say that's what the war was for. It wasn't ALL the war was for, but it was a major part of it.
#51 to #40 - verby ONLINE (02/25/2013) [-]
No, he did run on teh platform of ending slavery
User avatar #52 - herpaderpasaur (02/25/2013) [-]
I fail to see how anyone though Hirohito was a war hero and how anyone but slave owners though Jefferson Davis was a good guy but ok
User avatar #49 - aproudpatriot (02/25/2013) [-]
Actually, Benedict Arnold was initially against the British and was even close friends with George Washington. It was only after he was rebuked for several of his actions as an officer, and gave him less important tasks, that made him feel like the revolutionaries didn't trust him, that he went over to the British side. Even then, the British still didn't trust him and still gave him less important tasks.
#44 - dethmaul (02/25/2013) [-]
lol As I finished reading the description, I read in my head-voice "Kim Jong-Un is...Funny." As I clicked the thumb.
#39 - anaklusmos (02/25/2013) [-]
Benedict did what he did because he was promised money and land not because he was "loyal' to the Crown.
#33 - John Cena (02/25/2013) [-]
Not that I'm promoting slavery or anything, but doesn't our constitution guarantee states the right to secede from the union if they feel their rights are being violated?
User avatar #38 to #33 - Blargosnarf (02/25/2013) [-]
You're about one hundred years too late... besides, you think we ******* use the constitution anymore?
User avatar #42 to #33 - azraelthemage (02/25/2013) [-]
What started the Civil war was that Lincoln wanted to re-unite all the states that seceded in the most peaceful way possible. If it meant keeping slavery in the south, he was willing to allow it. However, if that were the case, it would've been slowly chipped away and eventually banned. The Confederates knew this, thus, war broke out.
User avatar #25 - sockprague (02/25/2013) [-]
Jefferson Davis first announcement as confederate president was that he was going to abolish slavery. The was on of the conditions from Britain if they were going to ally with the south.
#28 to #25 - intrepidy (02/25/2013) [-]
We probably should have done. An America split in two would have done wonders for being a global power. Relatively speaking.

Also, there would have been a native state established in the west i expect.
User avatar #32 to #28 - sockprague (02/25/2013) [-]
Who knows, Benedict Arnold victory at Saratoga is why the French ended siding with the Colonial America. History is funny.
User avatar #22 - churrundo (02/25/2013) [-]
Does Hirohito mean "wide person"? i'm starting to learn japanese
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