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User avatar #15 - anniethreeone (02/21/2013) [-]
I doubt Obama said that -- not because of the content, but it just doesn't sound like his style of speech. But hey, if the words are next to his face on a picture on the internet, who am I to argue.
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User avatar #322 to #15 - drtrousersnake (02/21/2013) [-]
If it was by Obama it would be more like:

You can't deny, women, their basic rights--and--pretend, it is about, your religious freedom. What we need, is--a strong middle class. If--you don't like birth control, don't use it. This bipartisan idea, will create millions of jobs.

(the commas are short pauses and the "--" are longer pauses)
User avatar #889 to #322 - nebuchadnezzaurus (02/22/2013) [-]
– William Shatner
#899 to #889 - drtrousersnake (02/22/2013) [-]
I finally found the guys name to post a comment about how Obama's talks that way to appeal to the sci-fi community then you posted that
I finally found the guys name to post a comment about how Obama's talks that way to appeal to the sci-fi community then you posted that
#170 - ShockedNazi (02/21/2013) [-]
theres other ways of birth control

poop chute
#1115 - solinvictus (02/22/2013) [-]
"You can't force a woman not to use contraceptives, but we can force you to pay for it with your tax dollars." That is what this is all about.
User avatar #1093 - Pink Floyd (02/22/2013) [-]
Why can't we all just mind our own business?
User avatar #1098 to #1093 - ilovehitler (02/22/2013) [-]
Because humans are, by nature, flawed creatures. We've survived by chaos and killing off anything that harms us. It's in our blood to feel only we are right, and that instinct took us to the top of the foodchain. Yet now that we're on top, that instinct is against ourselves.
User avatar #1103 to #1098 - Pink Floyd (02/22/2013) [-]
It wasn't a serious question.
User avatar #1107 to #1103 - ilovehitler (02/22/2013) [-]
Well, this certainly makes me the fool, doesn't it?
User avatar #1111 to #1107 - Pink Floyd (02/22/2013) [-]
No. Your comment was insightful and by all means correct. I just didn't expect anyone to post something serious.
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#994 - breakfastlunch (02/22/2013) [-]
I am SERIOUSLY in doubt that Obama actually said this. It doesn't sound like his way of speaking, or his mostly neutral-toned speech wording.
#956 - wewilldinealone (02/22/2013) [-]
********* below

Continue if you dare.
User avatar #1090 to #815 - Pink Floyd (02/22/2013) [-]
Sorry it took you guys so long to get my birth certificate. I was too busy killing Osama Bin Laden.
User avatar #612 - tippidyt (02/22/2013) [-]
You can't deny women their'ehhm, basic rights and pretend it's about your'ehhm 'religious freedom'. If you don't like'ehhm birth control, don't use it. Religious freedom doesn't mean you can force'ehhm others to live by your'ehhm own beliefs.
User avatar #579 - shinobidesu (02/22/2013) [-]
Even as a theist I agree.
#1382 - diegotan ONLINE (02/22/2013) [-]
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#869 - TheCynic (02/22/2013) [-]
Opinions Ahead:

I can't take it anymore. I have to express my controversial opinion- I can't keep it in anymore.

If we're talking about abortion (which we are, it's always associated for Women's Rights) we're dealing with something a lot more complicated than religious issues.

The abortion debate withers down to this- is a fetus a living thing? You can argue this back and forth because as of currently, there is no correct answer for this and the biggest issue with pro-life and pro-choice debates are that neither side will bother listening to anything that the other has to say.

Before the third trimester, you can argue that since a fetus has no brain activity and doesn't feel anything it isn't alive and therefore has no rights. On the otherhand, is brain activity really all that there is to life? Does it matter? Should have this fetus have rights?

Simply put, though, the answers to these questions are almost purely philosophical- based on personal belief and opinion. And because personal belief and opinion are basic freedoms, abortion cannot be made illegal based on personal perception. Whose perception are we going for for matters like the law?

But also- because it's based on perception, we cannot force other people to pay for or have one. So while I think that basic birth control is something that I think is a good idea to be covered with health care, I don't think we should make people pay for something that has provides some very ethical dilemmas and is such a hot button issue for so many people.

Please don't eat me alive. It's just an opinion. I could be wrong.
#884 to #869 - anon (02/22/2013) [-]
I wish I could thumb you up.
User avatar #916 to #869 - churrundo (02/22/2013) [-]
I think it's important to call it not a living thing but a living human, since people do not hesitate to kill chickens, for example, also living things...
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User avatar #1318 to #869 - giblets (02/22/2013) [-]
What I find funny is that the people who argue against abortion tend to be right wing, more specifically Republican, to generalise, but these are the same people who are in favour of the death penalty
User avatar #1327 to #1318 - supermegasherman (02/22/2013) [-]
abortion is not the same as the death penalty
User avatar #1329 to #1327 - giblets (02/22/2013) [-]
I know it's not.
But when they use the logic that it's wrong to kill a living human, then it become hypocritical.
User avatar #1333 to #1329 - supermegasherman (02/22/2013) [-]
an unborn fetus is defenseless and innocent, while bubba the murderous buttblaster committed a hefty crime. its more about taking responsibility for one's actions rather than respect for human life. because lets face it, which bothers you more, a human dying in a movie or a dog? most people will answer dog.
User avatar #1335 to #1333 - giblets (02/22/2013) [-]
I get that, but some say it's wrong to take a life all together. Which is why it's hypocritical.

I don't agree with the death penalty full stop, but I understand the idea behind it.
User avatar #1339 to #1335 - supermegasherman (02/22/2013) [-]
oh absolutely, if you are truly against taking life altogether then you should be against the death penalty too. hypocrites are my worst pet peeve
User avatar #1343 to #1339 - giblets (02/22/2013) [-]
I'm against the death penalty but pro-choice.
I'm against the death penalty because there is too much room for error with sentencing, and it's a fully grown adult human.

I don't believe a fetus under a certain amount of weeks to be a living thing, as it is still part of the mother.
User avatar #1346 to #1343 - supermegasherman (02/22/2013) [-]
why not give it a chance you know? maybe that child might win the next nobel prize or go off to harvard; maybe that child is the next president. besides think of what that mother has to deal with, she'll have that unborn child looming over her head the rest of her life. its pretty depressing.
User avatar #1351 to #1346 - giblets (02/22/2013) [-]
I'm not forcing women to have an abortion! I'm just saying that the choice should be there.

The earth is already over populated, and resources are stretched thin.
User avatar #1432 to #1351 - supermegasherman (02/22/2013) [-]
even if its not forced its still not a good idea. besides, they made the choice already. unprotected sex comes at a cost. people need to realize that they can't be a kid forever, the consequences of one's actions need to be acknowledged and respected. not taken away. responsibility is an important stepping stone in life, all the more reason to preserve it.
User avatar #1436 to #1432 - giblets (02/22/2013) [-]
Would you allow it in cases of rape then?
User avatar #1446 to #1436 - supermegasherman (02/23/2013) [-]
yes. but that is the only exception
#1326 to #869 - supermegasherman (02/22/2013) [-]
i like your objectivity even though i do not fully agree
i like your objectivity even though i do not fully agree
#900 to #869 - IAMDIZZYONFANTA (02/22/2013) [-]
Actually, you have what is known as a Right Opinion.
User avatar #913 to #869 - majortomcomics (02/22/2013) [-]
I completely agree, and, added to that, it should be basic knowledge that the risk of fermentation is there. You shouldn't expect the middle class to pay for your mistakes.
User avatar #1330 to #913 - supermegasherman (02/22/2013) [-]
life is about taking responsibility not thrusting on someone else

User avatar #917 to #869 - churrundo (02/22/2013) [-]
I still completely agree on your view
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#613 to #587 - DrPeppir (02/22/2013) [-]
Actually, one hand is in the woman's womb.
Actually, one hand is in the woman's womb.
User avatar #817 to #587 - buttinspecter (02/22/2013) [-]
That's the answer I've been looking for this whole time.
#999 - proffessionaltroll (02/22/2013) [-]
I like Obama
User avatar #1050 to #999 - OMGROFLMAO (02/22/2013) [-]
Me too
#919 - miscarriage (02/22/2013) [-]
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I'm getting mentioned a lot on this content.

mfw i think someone actually cares about me
User avatar #922 to #919 - flixoe (02/22/2013) [-]
**flixoe rolled user bitchitroll ** I care about you very much miscarriage but I care about this person more. Sorry...
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User avatar #948 to #919 - windmagevaati (02/22/2013) [-]
I care about you...
User avatar #957 to #948 - miscarriage (02/22/2013) [-]
I love you.
User avatar #960 to #957 - windmagevaati (02/22/2013) [-]
YAY, GRANDMASTER LOVES ME!!! Wait, are you still emu's master?
User avatar #966 to #960 - miscarriage (02/22/2013) [-]

Uhm that ended today.
User avatar #1008 to #966 - windmagevaati (02/22/2013) [-]
Oh, if you didn't already know, I'm cannibalsalad. I mean it when I say I'm sorry for spamming the pony thread and getting myself banned. I know some people probably hate me now... and I understand if you do too. I don't know exactly why I carried out that stupid spam... I guess I was just bored.
User avatar #1012 to #1008 - miscarriage (02/22/2013) [-]
It's okay <3
User avatar #970 to #966 - windmagevaati (02/22/2013) [-]
Okay! ^_^
#971 to #919 - anon (02/22/2013) [-]
Where were you when my ex wanted to keep the rape-baby? ,_,
User avatar #976 to #971 - miscarriage (02/22/2013) [-]

I don't know..
#979 to #976 - anon (02/22/2013) [-]
Well, i seriously needed out of that relationship, and that happened to be the final push, so i forgive you :3
User avatar #983 to #979 - miscarriage (02/22/2013) [-]
Thank you for your forgiveness.
#921 to #919 - skinless (02/22/2013) [-]
...i like you
#928 to #921 - miscarriage (02/22/2013) [-]
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mfw someone really does care about me
#935 to #928 - dishie (02/22/2013) [-]
I'll love you more then you'll ever know..
#940 to #935 - miscarriage (02/22/2013) [-]
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so sex now?
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User avatar #1380 to #1377 - RandomAnonGuy (02/22/2013) [-]
The suffix "-ist" implies that it's a worldview.
Which nothing in science can really be.
It confused me
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#770 to #753 - cdroid (02/22/2013) [-]
Funny. That's MFW I see posts like this one. We don't need ******* liberal posts. I took a few months off of FunnyJunk, first day back and I remember why before I finish with front page.
User avatar #402 - bokkos ONLINE (02/22/2013) [-]
Consider this: A lady of which I am acquainted with used to have serious bleeding during her period. Now, this wasn't ordinary cramps and discharge; This was full on, hemorrhagic-type bleeding. She is now on a birth control which, besides its intended use, completely stops her period from coming, and essentially saved her from a lifetime of ********** . Birth control is not only for controlling birth; Theres a large range of largely beneficial side effects that roll with it.
User avatar #414 to #402 - ungcc (02/22/2013) [-]
A friend of mine has the same problem, except she found out the reason behind it was because she's dropping two eggs at once. (It's how you get twins) The health results from it were so bad she would end up seriously bedridden. The doctor recommended BC, and she's no longer having a problem.
User avatar #254 - Onemanretardpack (02/21/2013) [-]
Context is important. In this speech, he was bashing religious charities for not providing birth control to women. Like it's against their religion, and he's trying to make them do it anyways.
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User avatar #273 to #254 - ishalltroll (02/21/2013) [-]
He simply implied that the church has to get with the times and return to the real world where we're starting to have trouble feeding the world...
User avatar #1030 to #273 - Onemanretardpack (02/22/2013) [-]
Freedom of religion and separation of church and state work both ways. We can't tell them what to do, as much as they can't push for their beliefs to become law.
User avatar #1415 to #1030 - ishalltroll (02/22/2013) [-]
Oh really? The church fired a priest in germany because he came out of the closet as being gay. And that's precisely the reason they mentioned to fire him.
This breaks german federal law as well as the fundamental human rights as prescribed in the german constitution.
They practically go over federal law simply because they're the church. It's illegal as can be.
User avatar #1439 to #1415 - Onemanretardpack (02/22/2013) [-]
Yeah well that's Germany. I can't speak for their laws and customs, but I can speak for my country's. Here, you're not allowed to tell the church what to do with it's organization, and they can't influence the government
User avatar #1099 to #254 - mrbuu (02/22/2013) [-]
Well then he is wrong. its not a basic right for birth control it was something created by people to fight bull **** other people deal with. I don't think people should pay for diet pills or a stomach staple because I choose to eat alot and be a fat ass. and women (on the 90%) chose to have sex and be pregnant. Just a opinion.
User avatar #181 - durkadurka ONLINE (02/21/2013) [-]
This is one of those quotes that's phrased to sound really reasonable, but the truth is much more messed up. For one, your basic rights are things like life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness and those listed in the Bill of Rights. Free birth control isn't exactly one of those. But it IS a right of ours to be able to obtain what we please (ie birth control).

It's one thing to ban or prohibit use of birth control. It's another thing to insist that religious institutions with moral objections provide free birth control via health care. Birth control is a personal responsibility. I'm all for it, but we cannot insist that others conform to a particular world-view.
User avatar #191 to #181 - keiishiyama (02/21/2013) [-]
It's arguable due to the 9th amendment. Vague though it is, that has to be the second most powerful amendment.
User avatar #213 to #191 - durkadurka ONLINE (02/21/2013) [-]
I'm not saying it's not a right. I just think the wording is a bit off. I generally think of "basic" rights as those that ensure our ability to live. Though those basic rights are most important, they are only a portion of all of our rights.
User avatar #233 to #181 - habanaro (02/21/2013) [-]
Now I'm confused... is this about keeping birth control legal or making it free?
User avatar #248 to #233 - durkadurka ONLINE (02/21/2013) [-]
Well it's not like birth control is illegal. What had happened was that the new healthcare legislation covered birth control under employers' health coverage. So for religious organizations, this meant that they would be forced to provide something they have a moral objection to.
User avatar #261 to #248 - habanaro (02/21/2013) [-]
Well, I can see it being in people's health benefits. I mean, I know women that take it for more reasons than just birth control. Some medications even require that women be taking birth control for them to take it (or risk birth defects).
I'm curious how many people objecting to it are using morality as a cover just because they don't want to put the money forward. The world could be a better place, I think, if condoms AND other forms of BC were legal to prevent people who shouldn't be having kids from having kids.
But yeah, I can see now why this is a big deal. Wouldn't other religious organizations, like JW's, have moral obligations against things like blood transfusions? At what line do we pick what to include and exclude?
Also, the Bible says to 'render unto ceasar what is ceasar's', so the church is looking pretty hypocritical with this, I think.
User avatar #268 to #261 - durkadurka ONLINE (02/21/2013) [-]
If there is no medical necessity for the user, no one should be required to provide birth control under health coverage. You don't see guys demanding condoms be covered under their healthcare. Things like this drive the costs of healthcare up all for something that is a personal responsibility.
#274 to #268 - habanaro (02/21/2013) [-]
I can see that, although I think condoms should be covered if Birth Control is.    
I live in Canada and I don't even 			*******		 KNOW if birth control is covered as I've never tried to buy it.
I can see that, although I think condoms should be covered if Birth Control is.
I live in Canada and I don't even ******* KNOW if birth control is covered as I've never tried to buy it.
User avatar #1108 to #181 - mrbuu (02/22/2013) [-]
Like pregnant women on the most hand i chose to be fat like eating too much like pregnant women having sex to much so its my basic right to get free diet pills? RIght? right?
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