This week in science. Black hole forming: Diabetes cured in dogs: Detachable penis: Asteroid: Synthetic biology circuits: Coral reef die off: Got this from I lo science
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#26 - cazabrow (02/18/2013) [-]
I can just imagine the announcement of the science breakthroughs, "today we discovered a cure for canine type 1 diatebes and are very proud to say it's result was succesful. In other news, we saw a sea slug rip off it's own wang in order to give DP to it's woman which allowed his new cock to pound her normally while a perfectly imitated  fully functioning dick rammed her up the butthole."
I can just imagine the announcement of the science breakthroughs, "today we discovered a cure for canine type 1 diatebes and are very proud to say it's result was succesful. In other news, we saw a sea slug rip off it's own wang in order to give DP to it's woman which allowed his new cock to pound her normally while a perfectly imitated fully functioning dick rammed her up the butthole."
#43 to #26 - gisuar (02/18/2013) [-]
i think the reason for this might be that the slug makes sure no other male can put its semen in her becaue the female is already stuffed
User avatar #296 to #26 - robertolee (02/18/2013) [-]
Those sea slugs, both male and female have both genitalia, they both penetrate each other at the same time. ***** amazing.
#65 to #26 - someponynew (02/18/2013) [-]
God... damnit....
I love you.
#41 to #26 - gibroner ONLINE (02/18/2013) [-]
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User avatar #32 to #26 - bitchplzzz (02/18/2013) [-]
Damn you, I spilled my drink
#54 to #32 - cazabrow (02/18/2013) [-]
mission accomplished aha!
mission accomplished aha!
#13 - thatguyyoumightno (02/18/2013) [-]
wait...
by "detach it's penis, grow a new one, and use it to mate", do you mean use the old one or the new one?
User avatar #214 to #13 - CapnInterwebz (02/18/2013) [-]
whynotboth.jpg
#350 to #13 - anon (02/18/2013) [-]
Yes.
#27 to #13 - fistoftheaxis (02/18/2013) [-]
No matter how many times he gets ass, in the end, he goes back to being a virgin.   
   
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No matter how many times he gets ass, in the end, he goes back to being a virgin.

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#29 to #13 - anon (02/18/2013) [-]
The old penis becomes a female slug.
It mates with it's old penis with it's new penis.
User avatar #15 to #13 - deltoraquest (02/18/2013) [-]
both
User avatar #17 to #13 - anonymoose (02/18/2013) [-]
DP
#40 to #13 - bobmanpersonguy (02/18/2013) [-]
Yes
User avatar #4 - mikeW (02/18/2013) [-]
Curing type 1 diabetes is a huge break through in my opinion.
User avatar #232 to #4 - trojanmannn (02/18/2013) [-]
I looked for 15 minutes to try and find the joke.
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#304 to #4 - yomommabinshoppin (02/18/2013) [-]
So maybe I wont have to take 4-6 shots a day for the rest of my life? Eventually when they find out how to use it on humans.
#280 to #4 - deafitems (02/18/2013) [-]
In dogs.
User avatar #393 to #4 - Dynex (04/12/2013) [-]
liar
#394 to #393 - mikeW (04/12/2013) [-]
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User avatar #133 to #4 - mattmanhemi (02/18/2013) [-]
my dogs diabetic, so i thought it was cool
#266 to #4 - fractalius (02/18/2013) [-]
I'm actually sitting in my chair, almost crying right now because of this
User avatar #302 to #266 - grundo (02/18/2013) [-]
WHAT'S THE JOKE
#303 to #302 - fractalius (02/18/2013) [-]
There's no joke, I'm just a Type 1 diabetic...
User avatar #307 to #303 - grundo (02/18/2013) [-]
Oh...
The fact that he had 130+ thumbs made me think there was something I was missing...
#313 to #307 - fractalius (02/18/2013) [-]
I guess it's just something a lot of us can appreciate.
#355 to #313 - xnotcreative (02/19/2013) [-]
Hi, I don't know you, but I sure do hope they find a cure for your Type 1 Diabetes :)
#383 to #355 - fractalius (02/19/2013) [-]
Thanks. I'm sure every one of us on this website has gone through something. Brings a smile to my face to know that others care
User avatar #46 to #4 - bobodevetjedan (02/18/2013) [-]
too bad they only can cure dogs :/
#69 to #46 - felixjarl ONLINE (02/18/2013) [-]
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Dogs are humans to.
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#103 - sheperdofthestars (02/18/2013) [-]
MFW coral reefs.   
   
Goodnight, sweet prince.
MFW coral reefs.

Goodnight, sweet prince.
#149 to #103 - comanderspy (02/18/2013) [-]
MFW i used to live close to one of those (in the caribean.) man, those are beautiful
MFW i used to live close to one of those (in the caribean.) man, those are beautiful
#23 - HordeyWordey (02/18/2013) [-]
>Genetic circuits in bacteria   
   
We're on our way to making biological computers
>Genetic circuits in bacteria

We're on our way to making biological computers
#30 to #23 - EdwardNigma ONLINE (02/18/2013) [-]
But then they can gain thoughts and feelings and rise against us.
User avatar #34 to #30 - bitchplzzz (02/18/2013) [-]
Windows Bacteria v10 has encountered a problem.

Error opcode 3444~khm
" **** you, asshole, my hardware is just as good as the new Dell yaddayadaa"
#205 to #30 - guythatagrees (02/18/2013) [-]
Don't worry, apple wlll make retard computers and bring down the collective intelligence.
#33 to #30 - anon (02/18/2013) [-]
as long as they are biological we can destroy them easily (cuz bio stuff are fragile as **** ...)

when we have terminator kind of rising with metals and stuff... well we are ******
#35 to #33 - enorus (02/18/2013) [-]
But we are biological
But we are biological
User avatar #44 to #35 - redrex ONLINE (02/18/2013) [-]
but we're bigger... and we have bullets. just don't give your computer a gun and we'll be fiiine
User avatar #56 to #44 - vonspyder (02/18/2013) [-]
No Obama made us limit our bullets to 7. Were all gonna die. Just like that episode of family guy.
User avatar #58 to #56 - redrex ONLINE (02/18/2013) [-]
we're still bigger, and we have clips of bullets
#18 - stegosaurusrah (02/18/2013) [-]
"coral reefs have stopped growing or started to erode"
#100 - sirbutterballs (02/18/2013) [-]
By God... The most ultimate form of masturbation.
User avatar #344 to #100 - joeledo (02/18/2013) [-]
Masturbation Level: OP
User avatar #71 - felixjarl ONLINE (02/18/2013) [-]
TL;DR: A black hole passed 17,100 miles of the earth detaching its logical bacteria that cured dog diabetes and thus started killing the coral reefs.
#148 - englman (02/18/2013) [-]
This is more of a Philosophical question than a Scientific, but I guess it's relevant enough thanks to Psychology and Physics..   
   
Who has heard of the Doctrine know as "Determinism"? It's essentially the opposite of free-will, because it states (paraphrasing) that all things in the Universe are cause and effect. Go WAY back and apply this idea to the Big Bang→Present day, and you get a Universe that is basically just a huge, infinitely-complex domino effect. Basically making "fate" true.   
Ex- Assume you could preform an experiment where you could replicate EVERY SINGLE FACTOR in a finite area. If Determinism is correct, then it would play out 100% the same, every single time.   
   
Physicists often argue, though, that the Quantum-Tunneling Phenomenon adds a certain randomness to the equation, which calls into question causality/the whole Doctrine/etc. Basically making our world more "chance" dependent.   
Ex- Assume the same experiment, however, now considering the Q.T.P. there could be potentially random outcomes every time. Sometimes outcomes would be the same, sometimes they would be completely different.   
(There's also the idea that it's a combination of both, etc.)   
   
Now what I want to know is this: Do we actually have free-will? I've been kind of obsessed with this idea for about a month now. I find it disturbing to think that everything we do is entirely dependent on something else, or just the "random chance" of the Universe. In my mind, this calls into question Individuality, why we should even care about life at all, I'm Christian too so this Doctrine makes it appear that God is choosing who goes to hell and who goes to Heaven (so is He evil now or what?). It's all very unsettling to me and I'm curious as to what Theories (if any) might disagree with the above. They can involve Divine Intervention or whatever too if you like. No real limits, I'm open for discussion.   
   
I hope to learn something new from this, thanks.
This is more of a Philosophical question than a Scientific, but I guess it's relevant enough thanks to Psychology and Physics..

Who has heard of the Doctrine know as "Determinism"? It's essentially the opposite of free-will, because it states (paraphrasing) that all things in the Universe are cause and effect. Go WAY back and apply this idea to the Big Bang→Present day, and you get a Universe that is basically just a huge, infinitely-complex domino effect. Basically making "fate" true.
Ex- Assume you could preform an experiment where you could replicate EVERY SINGLE FACTOR in a finite area. If Determinism is correct, then it would play out 100% the same, every single time.

Physicists often argue, though, that the Quantum-Tunneling Phenomenon adds a certain randomness to the equation, which calls into question causality/the whole Doctrine/etc. Basically making our world more "chance" dependent.
Ex- Assume the same experiment, however, now considering the Q.T.P. there could be potentially random outcomes every time. Sometimes outcomes would be the same, sometimes they would be completely different.
(There's also the idea that it's a combination of both, etc.)

Now what I want to know is this: Do we actually have free-will? I've been kind of obsessed with this idea for about a month now. I find it disturbing to think that everything we do is entirely dependent on something else, or just the "random chance" of the Universe. In my mind, this calls into question Individuality, why we should even care about life at all, I'm Christian too so this Doctrine makes it appear that God is choosing who goes to hell and who goes to Heaven (so is He evil now or what?). It's all very unsettling to me and I'm curious as to what Theories (if any) might disagree with the above. They can involve Divine Intervention or whatever too if you like. No real limits, I'm open for discussion.

I hope to learn something new from this, thanks.
User avatar #176 to #148 - zukowashere (02/18/2013) [-]
"that everything we do is entirely dependent on something else"

Well it is odd to think, but it is true. We take into account tons of information and then process it into a decision. That only influences us, it does not dictate us however. You decided to go onto Funnyjunk today, no one made you. Isn't that free will?
User avatar #182 to #176 - englman (02/18/2013) [-]
This is how I started, and believed it was simple to break the Doctrine this way. However, it sadly appears much more complex than that. I decided to get onto Funnyjunk today, sure, but an infinite combination of stimuli are what appear to have caused it. I get on FJ because my unique "combination" of Biology+Environment+Chance (or "Event-Chain", as I call it.) guide me "against my will."
#163 to #148 - selfdenyingbeggar (02/18/2013) [-]
Reminds me of something I wrote back a few years ago...

nothing is real, all things are illusions, misperceptions. We are modern animals, all that motivates us is the same thing that motivated our ancestors years ago: food, wealth, sex and anything that could help us with this. We are slaves. We are programmed to respond to certain things, so we did not choose, it just is so. Every minute I live is hypocrisy. I believe in choice but the choice itself is an illusion. It is the end result of a series of processes arising from my subconscious and my brain. We have the illusion that we are aware, but I know it is not. No one is aware of anything. What really know the world is a pittance, but the feeling that we see everything is another illusion. Generalizing, our mind is responsible for filling in the blanks. My only option is suicide, but that's the last joke of existence: the survival instinct, even though I want to cut the veins, I can't bring myself to do it or throw myself from the roof. I am the slave of myself. will I be free...?

Translated with google.

#166 to #163 - selfdenyingbeggar (02/18/2013) [-]
what we really know of the world*
User avatar #170 to #163 - englman (02/18/2013) [-]
Make a Black Metal album and I'll pay you handsomely lol.

I hear what you're saying though, that is essentially how is seems. It may just be the Super-Ego doing what it does best, but it feels like I'm missing something, though.. Like we don't quite know enough about the human brain to confirm this idea yet. Something just feels "off" to me, almost like we're missing something that's staring us directly in the face.
#183 to #170 - selfdenyingbeggar (02/18/2013) [-]
OMFG you're that guy who I added because we had shared interests, remember??
#186 to #183 - englman (02/18/2013) [-]
LMAO YOU ARE AREN'T YOU!? I didn't even notice!
#180 to #170 - selfdenyingbeggar (02/18/2013) [-]
I think what you're referring to is your true self. The consciousness that's the experiencer of your life, even of you. You're not really your "persona" it's just an artificial construct. What you really are is the point which experience everything. Even if everything is predetermined, it's just a spectacle for consciousness. You're part of existence because you exist, and you're one of the points this existence has to experience itself. I hope that realization frees you. As long as you're clinging to being things like "this body" "this name" "the son of this parents" you're making your essence less of what it is. Like if you judge the camera because of the videos stored inside. When you see yourself as pure consciousness, pure awareness of existence. Then you're free fro those things. It's hard to get there because of all the programming, but it is possible.
User avatar #184 to #180 - englman (02/18/2013) [-]
Okay, your comment makes me very glad I posted this. This is a fascinating new view for me to dissect! Thank you very much:)
#174 to #148 - bonkboy (02/18/2013) [-]
Do we have free-will?

You have to remember that Free-will, the concept of God, Heaven and Hell, and so on all human perceptions of the mind. These are concepts that have been hardwired into us much longer then our understanding of Science. It is very easy to accept, let alone believe that every event that has occurred in the universe may in some form been even slightly the result of Divine Intervention.

As a Taoist and also a man of Science, I am a strong believer in one belief: "We can choose our own destiny, but our fate is final." To elaborate on this, I for one have come to believe that all life has a purpose. Every organism from the mosquito that bites a man's arm for blood, and that man who swats it exist for a purpose. We are all locked into one fate, one destiny; but we choose when, where and how we wish to get to this fate or destiny.

I wouldn't say fate is entirely predetermined, because some people you could say reach the realization of what they want to do with their lives, like the kid who wants to be a Firefighter, or an Astronaut when they grow up. This in turn may very well become their fate because they accept it, or that they desire to play that role so much that it becomes a 'realized' fate.
User avatar #177 to #174 - englman (02/18/2013) [-]
Interesting way to view it. Thanks!
User avatar #175 to #148 - Vandeekree ONLINE (02/18/2013) [-]
The way I see it, it doesn't matter. If determinism is real then you have no control over whether you believe it or over any action. So there is no reason to fret over something you simply can't control. But also we don't know for sure if it's right, so then the only logical practical action to take is to live as though it were false because you can't live as though it were true. In this way it is self defeating.
User avatar #179 to #175 - englman (02/18/2013) [-]
If I can't find an answer, then I will be doing exactly what you say. I already continue to act as if it isn't true, but I have noticed that I think a little differently about certain things because of it, and that irritates me..
User avatar #195 to #179 - zukowashere (02/18/2013) [-]
So what if I decide to immediately leave Funnyjunk right now? That's not free will because I'm only attempting to justify my will?
User avatar #201 to #195 - englman (02/18/2013) [-]
Consider this idea: If we could pin-point every cause that resulted in a single effect, then we could predict the future with extreme accuracy. We just don't have that kind of mental capacity, though.
#181 to #148 - anon (02/18/2013) [-]
Huh.
I'd always thought of this to myself, and I'd actually come to the conclusion that all of our actions are predetermined by past occurances already, but I was not aware that there was some form of doctrine on it up until now. I can't say I'm surprised there is, though. Science 'nd all.

"Free will" is a rather vague concept. In a sense, we do indeed have free will. It's our decision on what we do with it that is impacted. So I suppouse the answer to your first question depends on your personal definition of "free will".

As for your question regarding God, I'd say. . . well, that's a sticky subject, and I don't mean to step on anyone's toes. For now, just ask yourself what really makes a person "evil". Is it what they do, or how they feel about it? Does one even have the option to enjoy or not enjoy "evil" things, if it is the domino result of past events? Is the term "evil" valid at all?

. . . Honestly, I don't know too much about all of these sparkly, complex sciencey theories. I apologize for the mostly phsycological answers.

User avatar #190 to #181 - englman (02/18/2013) [-]
You make some great points, really. I've also considered the ideas of "good" and "evil" in a separate context. Do they even exist? Or do only Culturally Acceptable/Unacceptable exist? Does Heaven/God have a culture? Or was our moral system partially just an elaborate way to test loyalty to God, and in actuality, He knows no "good and evil"? It's very interesting.. Sadly, you would need Photographic Memory to keep all this crap straight lol..
#218 to #190 - cloasi (02/18/2013) [-]
I made an account just so I could respond. ;;

I'd like to think that, quite possibly, nothing exists. That every theory, thought, material and figurative object is in some way connected due to this domino effect; that everything is ultimately seperately defined parts of one being, the universe. Would God be included into this, as well? What if God literally is the universe itself, making science and religion one in the same? Wouldn't that make us all, by definition, parts of God?

Thinking in this sense, I personally feel that there is no "good" or "bad", there simply "is". There may also no relation from one thing to another, because they are in the end the same.

But that just seems to contradict itself. . .
User avatar #229 to #218 - englman (02/18/2013) [-]
Lol awesome.

I've thought similar things before, but I don't know really. Some of those ideas get way out there and sometimes it's impossible to even keep track of them anymore.

We're said to be sons and daughters of God, and we are said to all have the Holy Spirit in us. So a "part of God", in a sense, may be true. However, this is an idea I'd be careful with.. Whether Satan is metaphoric, or a real entity, the "I am God" mentality (or anything close) is dangerous. Also, God certainly doesn't need us before we get into the "well maybe we're His power-source" idea lol (I've wondered that once before.)
#242 to #229 - cloasi (02/18/2013) [-]
Ah, I knew I may've been a tad close to the line there with that. I was simply pondering the connection between us and the perception of God. I may be late on mentioning this, but I'm agnostic, and I don't know much concerning what the bible does/does not say. I'll try my best to direct away from religion. ;;

Scientifically, we physically are the universe from some perspective. Our bodies are patterns and structures of atoms. The same atoms born within stars, and the same atoms which have existed long before our birth. The only difference being our conscious. Are we the universe consciously experiencing itself? . .
User avatar #244 to #242 - englman (02/18/2013) [-]
Oh, I see. Sorry if I made you uncomfortable or anything.

That's the Anthropic Principle, correct? I find the idea of a Universe observing/experiencing itself very strange, but very interesting. I just have a big problem with why/how it would do that.
#256 to #244 - cloasi (02/18/2013) [-]
Anthropic Principle? I'm not sure. I'm not too educated on principles, honestly, but you're most likely right.

Well, what other option would the universe have? If it were not aware of itself, would it still exist? Almost like that one quote (which I can't exactly remember) about how if a tree falls where no one is around to hear it or see it.

Sorry for the horrible wording. ;;
User avatar #271 to #256 - englman (02/18/2013) [-]
No need to apologize lol.
Yeah, I get what you're saying. I just disagree with that type of logic:P
Physics proves that the tree makes a sound whether anything is there to perceive it or not. This would be the same with the Universe. I assume it isn't a conscious entity too, so it doesn't make sense for it to "try" to make something to perceive itself. It would first have to be able to "think" to do that anyway. And if it could think, then why would it need to create something to perceive itself in the first place? It could already do it.
#282 to #271 - cloasi (02/18/2013) [-]
It may not try. It may have just happened because it was natural law to do so.

Just like how and apple doesn't try to fall to the ground. It just does because that's the law which gravity follows. As to why or how the law exists, I don't know. . . yet, anyway. I hope to find an answer some day.

Also, I see your point. I've also thought that what we concieve as the universe is not conscious. It doesn't really make sense. In order for one thing to need concious, it must not have it, and if it does not have it, how could it need it? Yet, here we are still, conscious as ever, and physically proven to be a part of the universe. With such logic, the birth of the universe would only be the birth of a body. The development of intellegent life would be the body coming to life.

I truely do hope I'm not begining to sound as if I'm forcing any beliefs on you. Most of this is merely speculation.

Just like how and apple doesn't try to fall to the ground. It just does because that's the law which gravity follows. As to why or how the law exists, I don't know. . . yet, anyway. I hope to find an answer some day.
User avatar #291 to #282 - englman (02/18/2013) [-]
I see what you mean, it's very interesting to think about it in that way too. You don't sound like you're forcing anything lol don't worry. I love discussing everything. When we set limits, we restrict knowledge. Also, I can hear your beliefs, and you can hear mine, without them being changed:) it's something that makes discussions so great. However, if something does get changed, I supposed it was meant to be. HadesPun.jpeg lol
#298 to #291 - cloasi (02/18/2013) [-]
All so very true.

. . . After all this, I'm afraid my mind's been drawn to a blank. And I should probably stop postponing English work now.
I shall be off for now. Many thanks for the mind-proding discusion; I have much to think of later.

Fair winds.~
User avatar #299 to #298 - englman (02/18/2013) [-]
Agreed, I have Chemistry and Psychology to tend to as well..
You're welcome, and thank you very much for the great discussion:)

Have a great day.
#284 to #282 - cloasi (02/18/2013) [-]
Cut out that last part, by the way. It shouldn't be there for obvious reasons. OTL
User avatar #188 to #148 - ReeferTrees (02/18/2013) [-]
Instead of having a long drawn out discussion I'll just say this.

I think, therefore I am.
User avatar #191 to #188 - englman (02/18/2013) [-]
Aaaah, René Descartes. Nice quote.
User avatar #202 to #191 - ReeferTrees (02/18/2013) [-]
Only problem I have with the concept of all past things determining the future is are we not determining the future now in our present which will become past?

Past is no different from Present or Future because time itself is an impossible concept. The idea that existance in it's wholeness having a beginning or an end is a product of our mortal mentalitly where everything has a limit. The sun rises and sets, the tide comes and goes, animals and people alike are born and die but everything is still there.

In a literal sense we are a cloud of dust called atoms. Past all the intelligence, arrogance, our flesh, our blood, our cells, our genes, it all loses it's Organic feel once we reach the atoms.

So what is it exactly that makes us different from a stone or a pond? It is our Thoughts.
#389 to #202 - englman (02/19/2013) [-]
Your last sentence also strikes me. It's one of my favorite things to think about actually, and it ties into my thoughts on Robot-Intelligence. On an atomic level, we're very similar to Robots, we are just arranged differently as far as the "bigger picture" goes.   
   
So it makes me wonder, when we get around to creating Robots that learn/think for themselves, very much like us, (Scientists/Engineers are making great progress), will they be considered/treated human? Or will we treat them cruelly because they're just "complex machines" in our eyes, even though we're just complex Chemistry ourselves? I'm very curious to see how we'll approach it, but I know I'll definitely be embracing our new "technological brothers and sisters" lol
Your last sentence also strikes me. It's one of my favorite things to think about actually, and it ties into my thoughts on Robot-Intelligence. On an atomic level, we're very similar to Robots, we are just arranged differently as far as the "bigger picture" goes.

So it makes me wonder, when we get around to creating Robots that learn/think for themselves, very much like us, (Scientists/Engineers are making great progress), will they be considered/treated human? Or will we treat them cruelly because they're just "complex machines" in our eyes, even though we're just complex Chemistry ourselves? I'm very curious to see how we'll approach it, but I know I'll definitely be embracing our new "technological brothers and sisters" lol
User avatar #390 to #389 - ReeferTrees (02/19/2013) [-]
Hopefully if we create sentient robots with advanced thought processes we would do it after we make space our home.

That way we get a Geth scenario with peaceful and logical robots looking for the reason of life.

Instead of the apocalyptic Terminator/Matrix Scenario where we are still confined to our limited enviroment.
User avatar #391 to #390 - englman (02/19/2013) [-]
True lol the only problem with sentient Robots is that they would be made like humans. Made in the image of an imperfect being, already.. (off to a good start lol..) So unless we reach the Technological Singularity and have "Smarter than human" Robots, creating other "Smarter than human" Robots, (or even Robots that are smarter than their Robot creator) there would always be the possibility of a crazy Robotic attack. But that's just my opinion on the matter lol.
User avatar #210 to #202 - englman (02/18/2013) [-]
Hmmm.. Good points all around. I've often wondered about the "we're just clumps of inanimate objects making life" idea too. Makes me wonder if you "zoomed-out" about a quadrillion ^30 times from Earth, if all of the suns/galaxies/etc. would be the building blocks to something else's life. Is our entire Universe just an "atom" in something much larger than us?
User avatar #386 to #210 - ReeferTrees (02/19/2013) [-]
There are systems with a sun and no planets or a sun with many planets just like atoms with electrons. Some double star systems the planets move from circling one to circling the other, just like electrons around a molecule. Protons and Neutrons with make up Atoms are vastly bigger than the electrons that circle it, just like a star with planets.
#388 to #386 - englman (02/19/2013) [-]
Exactly lol this leads me to one of my favorite Adventure Time quotes, "Everything small is just a small version of something big!"
Exactly lol this leads me to one of my favorite Adventure Time quotes, "Everything small is just a small version of something big!"
User avatar #387 to #386 - ReeferTrees (02/19/2013) [-]
which*
User avatar #189 to #148 - simplygabriele ONLINE (02/18/2013) [-]
In my opinion, we don't. That is, our opinions and decisions are based entirely on our brain chemistry aka what we ate, how we slept, what kind of experiences we've had... In short - everything that has ever happened before that.

The thing is, most people, when they hear the phrase "free will" simply think of the ability to make decisions without being forced into them by other people or societal demands. So when they catch a glimpse of the more philosophical discussion about how we ultimately do not have free will, they freak out and have a sort of meltdown (or simply go "Bible tells me God gives us free will, so there's that!").

All in all, though, this does not matter. Not to say that the conversation should not be had or that it's not interesting, but that whether you accept the idea of no absolute free will or not, you still make decisions. Even if you kill yourself because the idea of no free will simply destroys your preconceived notion of life, that's a decision. Sure, you could try blaming it on the universe, but it's just an excuse.

One thing that I do try to discourage when I talk to people that are pondering about this, is pretty much "well free will doesn't exists no now I'll just do whatever". People abandon their goals and live in bitterness. The thing is, if predestination is true, it was true even before you knew about it, so there's no reason to stop living your life.
User avatar #249 to #189 - mcbee (02/18/2013) [-]
I always thought that too, me typing this isn't really free will. I percieve it as such but technically, random occurences have brought me to this point in my life, in front of my computer, and reading your comment imput information to my brain which reacted and decided to reply. Even though these are my actions, I have no control of the circumstances.
english is my second language so bear with me haha
User avatar #196 to #189 - englman (02/18/2013) [-]
True. I think it's still good to live like you have a choice. Maybe you were meant to, but you'll be happier/etc.
#223 to #148 - saygoodnight (02/18/2013) [-]
My philosophy club just had a debate about this.
BTW I'm agnostic, so I'm not going to bring up god except a little bit, lol.

First off, if you don't know, and it's unexplainable, then why does it matter? Even if the world is cause-and-effect, it doesn't mean you lose your ability to think for yourself and take whatever steps you want. You shouldn't worry so much about it, as this is a question both science and religion will never fully grasp.

Yes. You have free will. It doesn't matter what god you believe in; when you think "Hey I want something to drink" you go to get yourself something to drink. It's a bit hard to understand, but lets say there is a god. Would he want you believing any other way? Why would he allow creations to not think any way other than there own? Though this is where I fall off from religion, for if he knows what will happen, why start it in the first place? That doesn't make sense to me.

Hope I may have helped a bit.



User avatar #236 to #223 - englman (02/18/2013) [-]
You did help, thank you:)

Personally, I think that knowing something in advance, doesn't necessarily matter in certain areas.

Ex- I know this girl is going to fall in love with me. But I want her to come to that conclusion and what-not on her own v.s. me enforcing it.

I believe God loves us (and not just because the Bible says so lol) Thus, He probably would love for us to love Him too, but He more than likely wants the love to be real. What point is love if it's forced? Thus the choice/creation/our Universe with it's system/etc. makes sense to me.
User avatar #281 to #148 - djbagboy (02/18/2013) [-]
I'd reccomend you read Slaughter House 5.
It deals with time travel, but not that time is a thing you can go to, but that everything is there, and has happened or will happened.
It states that free will is purely a human concept, and that humans are one of the only species to have that idea.
That being said, I think we do have free will. Not to a ultimate, chemical point, like one user said, about how our choices are determined by chemicals in our brain, but rather at a conscious level. Free will is determined by our choices, and our conscious part of our mind, our "spirit" is the one that lets us make them.
I for one am an atheist, and I don't think in predetermined destiny, but of course that could just be me trying to cope with the idea of no freewill, yet we will never actually know if we have it.
My two bits.
User avatar #297 to #281 - englman (02/18/2013) [-]
I'll have to look into that, thanks lol.

Yeah, that's something that I always keep open. Everything we think we know could change in an instant if something fundamental was found to be incorrect. We could discover something new and revolutionary that changes our very understanding of the Universe entirely. The possibilities are infinite, and it's completely possible that we have no free-will. However, it's equally possible that we just can't comprehend how we have free-will yet, or maybe we never will be able to.

One thing is absolutely true to me, though. We live in an incredibly interesting, beautiful, remarkable, bizarre existence.. Nothing fascinates me more than existence itself.
User avatar #358 to #148 - bannon (02/19/2013) [-]
This is my opinion but I believe that everything is deterministic. Yes the random variables are there but are always settling. In my eyes we don't have free will.

However, we don't know what's going to happen next giving us the illusion of free will. Until somebody knows the next set of events or can "tell the future" I feel that every choice I make is of my own decision. Unless I have a few drinks, then the outcome will definitely be a hangover. (Damn determinism)
User avatar #369 to #358 - xMWxBEASTx (02/19/2013) [-]
the "Illusion of free will" part reminded me of when V tells Delia this "There are no coincidences, Delia... only the illusion of coincidence"
User avatar #363 to #358 - englman (02/19/2013) [-]
First comment to make me literally "lol", haha. But yeah, I hear what you're saying:P I think I stand more on the "The may, or may not, have free-will, but lets pretend we do" side of things lol.
#194 to #148 - ruinsage (02/18/2013) [-]
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I like to think that the universe was set in motion by a single entity ("god" if you will), who defined the physical laws beforehand, and then simply set the universe in motion, with the sole purpose of finding the set of "ingredients" (laws of nature) that would make the universe most suited for life. When he finds this perfect set of "ingredients", he then creates the last universe, which will be suited to last forever, and forever be suited for life.
Our current universe is likely to end with the "big rip", where vacuum energy (also known as dark energy) tears space-time apart. Meaning that this isn't the final version.

Going through all this trouble only to create dolls with no free will seems pointless. And so, i believe in free will.

btw, this is a quasar, a phenomenon powered by a super-massive-black-hole, which is about 1000 times as luminous as a normal galaxy.
User avatar #200 to #194 - englman (02/18/2013) [-]
Your second part is a great point, and similar to my opinion. He's God... GOD.. Even if He was "bored to tears," I don't think He'd create us for entertainment or anything. If you could have ANYTHING, and had an unlimited imagination, wouldn't you create something else? It seems to me that a Universe with zero free-will is utterly pointless and illogical. Many other things point to God being logical too.. So that's the main reason I'm not "ultra upset" by this idea.
User avatar #233 to #200 - saygoodnight (02/18/2013) [-]
You know, I just thought. If I was a "God" and I had an unlimited imagination and powers, it would be kind of boring. Why does it matter what kind of power I have if I have no one to share them with? I would be one lonely mother ****** .
User avatar #351 to #233 - dadukesta (02/18/2013) [-]
I think the pleasure would be seeing all knowledge being learnt over again by inferior beings. Just like watching a kitten play with a ball of yarn then realize he can do other things too.
User avatar #239 to #233 - englman (02/18/2013) [-]
"No one to share them with" read above a little. I partially believe this is why He created us/gave us a choice.
#203 to #148 - jimboismynameo (02/18/2013) [-]
this thread hurts my brain
this thread hurts my brain
#215 to #203 - englman (02/18/2013) [-]
Welcome to the party friend.
Welcome to the party friend.
#115 - beatmasterz (02/18/2013) [-]
They're making a hangover pill. It contains enzymes which helps breaking down the alcohol and basically serves as a second liver. HAIL FOR SCIENCE!
#122 to #115 - moorbs (02/18/2013) [-]
That would be a sober up pill. Hangovers are caused by dehydration so just drinking water before your brain gets dehydrated is fine.. also stimulants like coffee and cocaine also sober you up in a way as they have the opposite effect of alcohol which is a depressant (although you may still get the effects of either one such as reduced inhibitions).
That would be a sober up pill. Hangovers are caused by dehydration so just drinking water before your brain gets dehydrated is fine.. also stimulants like coffee and cocaine also sober you up in a way as they have the opposite effect of alcohol which is a depressant (although you may still get the effects of either one such as reduced inhibitions).
User avatar #123 to #122 - beatmasterz (02/18/2013) [-]
ok
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These should be a weekly thing.
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I'll try and get them as soon as they come out.  (:
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#96 to #94 - reddeadtroll (02/18/2013) [-]
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I always look forward to these weekly science posts. Make me feel like the world is going somewhere.
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OP was very excited about that one.
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Who isn't? Be able to detach your own penis, and use it as a dildo, while you get a new perfect one, again?
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User avatar #144 to #143 - dreaddune (02/18/2013) [-]
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Instead of cutting off its penis, they should have extracted its ADAM.
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#357 to #309 - doyouevenupload (02/19/2013) [-]
oh yeah because the original source is facebook.

seems legit.
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User avatar #346 to #309 - sketchE ONLINE (02/18/2013) [-]
what if id rather someone bring them to me without clogging up my facebook feed with links ill never click?
#385 to #346 - litobahamas (02/19/2013) [-]
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