Reunion Beneath Canterlot. by harwicks-art at .. .. I.. Am a god damn retard. I'm no brony, but... you have Luna, and Celestia. Moon and Sun, yeah? Then there's Twilight. Inbetween. Why did I not notice before
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#134 - anonymous (03/10/2013) [-]
Reminds me of Smaug.
#99 - ostemad (02/17/2013) [-]
I don't watch MLP.. So this is what i saw
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User avatar #76 - reican (02/17/2013) [-]
Maybe when Spike is an elder dragon, he'll be an adviser.

Like the great dragon in Merlin.

inb4 ranting about something. you kids always find something
#73 - waterlinx (02/17/2013) [-]
Seath is a brony? Well I guess that's Nito
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#77 to #73 - itzsquiggle (02/17/2013) [-]
I love you, i was about to post something along those lines then i saw this. you are my hero XD
#94 to #77 - dtox (02/17/2013) [-]
GAH! KILL THEM QUICKLY!

****** ORNSTEIN!
#70 - anonymous (02/17/2013) [-]
This uhm... this....

This looks like Deepholm in World Of Warcraft...
User avatar #93 to #70 - nurucio (02/17/2013) [-]
Definitely not
Not enough room for Therazane
User avatar #69 - rhiaanor (02/17/2013) [-]
SPYRO?
#79 to #69 - prancingkid (02/17/2013) [-]
You raise a excellent point good sir.
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User avatar #58 - bladeboy (02/17/2013) [-]
CUT OFF THE TAIL FOR A WEAPON
#65 to #58 - churrundo (02/17/2013) [-]
**** Yeah Dark Souls
#42 - goddamnjews ONLINE (02/17/2013) [-]
This reminded me Donkey and that dragon from Shrek.
User avatar #40 - snowshark (02/17/2013) [-]
Am I the only one who watched the episode today and literally wept from how awful it was? Everything that everyone said MLP is when they were trying to slander it appeared in that episode and it just hurt so much... so much...

I really hope next week we find out this was all an elaborate dream...
User avatar #47 to #40 - doctrine (02/17/2013) [-]
Last episode of the season sadly. At least there will be 26 more to explain it next season.
User avatar #56 to #47 - snowshark (02/17/2013) [-]
I'm not an idiot who is going to say this has ruined MLP, because it hasn't.

But it has been a big wake-up call as to how season 3 in general has been played (great standalone episodes and weak plot episodes. Discord, Crystal Empire and now this).

I have sincere fears as to where exactly this is going because compared to the Gala (which taught about expectations and disappointment... which was a really ****** move to make on the part of the writing team) and the wedding of Cadence and Shining Armour (which was actually surprisingly well-written and felt like it was right out of a good disney story with the great musical direction, animation, gags and a badass villain)...

π_π This felt like a terrible fan-fiction and I worry as to how the series will progress if the writing team decided that this would be not only good enough to be a part of the canon, but also good enough to end the season. I can keep my hopes up but it may just be that the starter for the next season will dictate the mood of the fans for a while...
User avatar #43 to #40 - shadowoflife (02/17/2013) [-]
What was so terrible about it?
User avatar #49 to #43 - snowshark (02/17/2013) [-]
1: Songs... all the way through there were songs. Not good ones either. It felt like they were trying to recapture the magic of the end to season two but simply failed on every turn.
2: Princess Twilight Sparkle. Have you ever heard a name that is so vapidly cute that it makes you cringe whenever you say it? Yeah... This coupled with a weak villain in the opening and cutting the balls off Discord (arguably the best villain of the series) in a single episode and you can see a startling lack of writing talent across the board for the key episodes of the season.
3: Animation. Season 3 has had some really fluid animation and great visual tricks because of a clearly expanded budget, but there was so much in this episode that just didn't work. From the use of the eyes to the way Twilight looked as a Princess to the weird use of wings at the end of the episode.
4: Disappointment. This was the season finale. Season one opened with Nightmare Moon and closed on the Gala. Both were pretty solid storylines and told some pretty important lessons. Season two started with Discord and ended with Queen Chrysalis. Two great villains, two fantastic two-parters with great animation, comedy and downright good writing.

Season 3 opened with the Crystal Empire and ended with this. Both were really weak stories which may have had some nice animation but failed in a lot of important respects. Compared to the openings and closings of past seasons, this season just felt like a kick in the ass. Plus, it's far shorter than the previous seasons.

5: Where to go from here?

Not just for the series, but for the fandom. The episode felt like a huge middle-finger to the fans. I happen to really admire MLP for how good the writing can be at the best of times and how well it treated it's audience. Never really treating them like idiots but never asking too much of them either. This... doesn't leave me in good hopes as to where the series and subsequently the fandom is going.
User avatar #74 to #49 - youarenotspecial (02/17/2013) [-]
I'm not a huge fan of MLP, I've only seen a few of the episodes, but I did watch this last one. The songs were...awful. Usually I can be like 'okay, it's cute," but this was way too ******* cute. I would feel silly watching it as a 5 year old.
User avatar #83 to #74 - snowshark (02/17/2013) [-]
Aye. Please don't let that tar your view of the series because, whilst it isn't for everyone, that really is the series at it's worst. There are -far- better episodes out there. (Though I imagine you do not need to be told that. Still, helps to make sure. ^_^)

The last episode was just -everything- that the so-called "haters" wrongfully accuse the series of being and I fear this will only give them more ammunition and the butthurt bronies will only worsen our imagine on the net.

:( Though I may be over-analysing things... I tend to do that a lot...
User avatar #85 to #83 - youarenotspecial (02/17/2013) [-]
I've seen most of the first season and the wedding episodes. I haven't seen the Discord ones, so I probably should. This last one wasn't the worst episode in cartoon history or anything, but it was pretty cheesy, I guess. I can understand why people are worried that it will all get very "mary sue-ish." I suppose I'm just not a big enough fan to worry about it. x'D
User avatar #86 to #85 - snowshark (02/17/2013) [-]
Meh. You're lucky. Personally, I am a massive cinefile and a glutton for literature and story of all kinds (whatever that says about my grip on reality though...) so I tend to have an awful lot of things that I love and an awful lot of things that I hate and sadly recently I've seen a lot of things that I love turn into a lot of things that I hate.

With MLP it was something I hated turning into something I loved and now it's threatening to turn right back into something i hate.

It's not all that beneficial to be able to dissect a story as well as I can. :( Sometimes I envy the people who can just "switch their brain off".

Also, forgot to mention. You're name. Courage the Cowardly Dog reference?
User avatar #87 to #86 - youarenotspecial (02/17/2013) [-]
Oh, I see. I'm kind of the opposite. When I was younger I thought I was weird because I wasn't like all the people on the internet who could devote themselves to certain "fandoms" or what not. I just have never been able to get emotionally invested in something to that level. Sometimes I over think stories and things like you (I was doing that with a neopets plot today...don't judge me), but I don't really feel insulted when the creators **** it up.

Nope, it's just a thing a made because I was annoyed by special snowflake syndrome. That wouldn't be the first time when my username was an unintentional reference, though.
User avatar #90 to #87 - snowshark (02/17/2013) [-]
"You're a Jesus, Harry."

I really hate that... the more special you make your main characters, the less identifiable they become. Luke Skywalker was so good because he was a simply farm-boy with nothing all that special about him who rose to the challenge and met it head-on.

Same with Frodo Baggins. Heck, Frodo only got the ring in the first place -because- he was so un-special. If Gandalf had it he could turn into the next Sauron but the worst Frodo could become was Golem... kind of a crappy reason to chase destiny but it is a great bit of writing.

However, Twilight did earn her wings (urgh... I can't believe I just made that joke). She still has a lot of Special-Snowflake to her, mind you... -.- You talk a lot like someone from Argent Dawn EU. xD
User avatar #96 to #90 - youarenotspecial (02/17/2013) [-]
I totally agree. I feel like the only people who can relate to those characters are the ones who want desperately to be perfect.

People always get mad at me when I call the mlp characters sort of mary sueish, but they were still interesting enough for it not to be glaring before all this destiny **** .

I do? xD Is that a WoW forum or something?
User avatar #105 to #96 - snowshark (02/17/2013) [-]
Though it should probably be noted that sometimes the story actually requires a character who is a bit of a snowflake. Someone who is a great deal above the other characters.

I could probably give you a great series to get stuck into that does just that, however it is subject to taste.
User avatar #103 to #96 - snowshark (02/17/2013) [-]
It is indeed. A RP forum. The term Mary-Sue flies about a lot in the RP community.

(So does the term Grimdark... but most people don't know what that even means anymore!)

Still, there are so many sueish qualities to the Mane 6. Frankly, that's why Rarity is my favourite. The fact that she is funny as all hell is one thing but she has the most complex character to boot. Her break-downs are a thing of beauty (which is oddly apt, no?)

Though I disagree on the need for perfection. I feel that a lot of it stems purely from poor writing-skills. It is hard to get an every-man into the world of heroes. You can see a lot of writers showing a wonderful inability to do so as well. The Mass Effect games did it very well, mind. Turning Shepard from a top-clsss marine into a galactic hero (though personally I feel he/she has no personality whatsoever...) and the same could be said of the Halo franchise, given the origin story for the MC.
User avatar #106 to #103 - youarenotspecial (02/17/2013) [-]
I liked Twi and Rarity, but mostly because of their character designs. That's pretty much why I watch the show in a nutshell. x'D

I believe your right. The only book I've legitimately enjoyed with a "destiny" theme has been HP, but I think even that would have been better without it. I've always found myself avoiding it as a plague; i think it's a crutch that allows you to disregard a lot of character development.

Didn't they change some of the staff on MLP, too? I thought Lauren Faust said that she is no longer on the show.
User avatar #113 to #106 - snowshark (02/17/2013) [-]
Lauren did indeed leave the show.

However I do actually like the 'Destiny' plot-point if used right. A good example of it is Magi. Magi is a manga/Animé that has got both a special-snowflake for a main character and an awful lot of talk about fate and destiny. However neither is abused and they're both perfectly utilised and give the series a genuinely thematic feel.
User avatar #116 to #113 - youarenotspecial (02/17/2013) [-]
You reminded me I have to watch that! :o
It looks really good. At least from all the tumblr gif sets.
User avatar #117 to #116 - snowshark (02/17/2013) [-]
I would actually suggest the manga before the animé. The manga has fantastic pacing and I have never seen a shounen that makes a more effective use of shadows than Magi.

Plus... you gotta get up-to-date. What is currently going on in Magi is perhaps the best back and forth I have seen in a shounen since... well... since when Naruto was in it's prime. In fact, it has a very similar feeling. Naruto was always at it's best when you were watching two characters constantly one-upping each other and turning the tide of the battle one way and then the other and then the other. Similar in that sense to Yu-Gi-Oh. Magi at the moment (chapter 168-173ish) is SO satisfying week by week...

If Magi doesn't make you a screaming fanboy then I don't know what will... seriously, it is the only manga I have ever read to not just bring a tear to my eye, but to make me spill my guts in sheer joy... in fact, I think I can feel it coming on again just thinking about it.

(Maybe I'm just a bit of a sap though? xD)
User avatar #119 to #117 - youarenotspecial (02/17/2013) [-]
Now I know I haven't read manga or watched anime in a long time, since I totally didn't even think that there would be a manga. :B

At first I thought it was just another cutesy anime, like tokyo mew mew or something. I'll definitely check it out though.

I'm probably a sap, too. Honestly, all my favorite mangas/anime are the ones that made me cry. Like FMA or the fruits basket manga. x'D
User avatar #121 to #119 - snowshark (02/17/2013) [-]
You're not a sap. Honestly, it just means you enjoy being emotionally invested. (Though I imagine you already know that.)

It's the same with me. My favourite movies are the ones that connect to me emotionally. Granted, there are a lot of movies that I love for having great characters or for being visually stunning or for making me think, but it is the sheer swell of emotion that gets me every time.

I think that's why V for Vendetta is my favourite movie. It fits all of those categories wonderfully. (Plus, it's nice to have a movie about Britain every now and then.)
User avatar #122 to #121 - youarenotspecial (02/17/2013) [-]
I feel the same way, but I can't recall a movie that has made me very emotional...except war horse the last time I watched it, but that's probably partially because I get emotional about war and I had a horse named Joey. x'D

With movies, anyone that sort of has a profound affect one me become my favorites- like Donnie Darko, the Godfather, or On the Waterfront. V for Vendetta was Brilliant though. Britain needs to bring more media to the states.
User avatar #125 to #122 - snowshark (02/17/2013) [-]
The problem with that (as I am sure you are aware) is the change in film culture. Everything moved for Hollywood. Eventually, Eeling studios was all that was left and even they went bust.

Britain has an awful lot to offer, e.g. The Harry Potter films (props to Rowling for insisting on British actors for the parts.) There are shades of rebirth in the British film industry, but it's still far from Blockbuster status... and I'm kinda glad of that. There are a lot of great British movies that are made simply because they're good enough to get made. If you get the time, go watch Harry Brown and Attack the Block because both are good movies.

And if you like Donnie Darko then I apologise profusely for linking this... but I can't help it because he is so god-damned funny.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9WVwlCRchc

I love him so much. xD He is a douche sometimes but he completely encapsulates what it is like to see things in movies that others don't whilst being wonderfully hilarious at the same time.
User avatar #127 to #125 - youarenotspecial (02/17/2013) [-]
I agree. The UK has some of the most brilliant talent. That's why I kind like all this new technology making media more accessible. Even in the last year or two with all of these big companies trying to take over youtube, people have been rejecting it. Big budget hollywood may be taking over everything, but I think there will always be ways for true talent and good stuff to shine through.

I am only one minute into that video and I choked on my water. xD
User avatar #128 to #127 - snowshark (02/17/2013) [-]
Same here! It's currently languishing up my nose and is hurting like a bitch... he is literally so funny it hurts.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=is08Fon2Qsw
User avatar #107 to #106 - twi (02/17/2013) [-]
yay mentions
#111 to #107 - snowshark (02/17/2013) [-]
-.- You must get that a lot...
User avatar #112 to #111 - twi (02/17/2013) [-]
yeah
User avatar #109 to #107 - youarenotspecial (02/17/2013) [-]
Does that ever get annoying? x'D
User avatar #110 to #109 - twi (02/17/2013) [-]
ehhhh
User avatar #57 to #49 - idiotbox (02/17/2013) [-]
well twilight stays in ponyville thankfully, they tried their best with this short season
User avatar #66 to #57 - snowshark (02/17/2013) [-]
I completely disagree. Whereas the episodes in the middle of the series were actually surprisingly good, in fact, some of the best in the show's history; the opening and ending were piss-poor and showed a clear lack of skill in writing compared to the previous seasons bookends.

If the people who wrote those episodes tried their best then their best simply wasn't good enough to measure up to what is expected of them. I'm not going to say this is the end, but this is a serious blow to my faith in MLP's writing.

In fact, a lot of that has happened recently. Steve Jobs stopped his influence in Pixar because of Illness and Subsequent death and Pixar have released some below-par movies whereas they always used to score a home run every time they swung the bat. Halo 4 is a mess of terrible gameplay, mistakes and worrying story-turns and now MLP?

I don't like to sound like a fanboy who only sees the bad in things (because frankly, I am the opposite and I'm very hopeful that all of the above can learn from their mistakes) but there as been a curious disturbance in the writing-force recently...
#89 to #66 - solarisofcelestia (02/17/2013) [-]
Steve Jobs was part of Pixar?
Steve Jobs was part of Pixar?
User avatar #92 to #89 - snowshark (02/17/2013) [-]
Steve Jobs was very good when it came to potential and a slave-driver in the workplace. He was very busy keeping -everyone's- noses to the grindstone in all the businesses he was involved in. He helped get pixar off the ground and then proceeded to play keepy-ups with all his other businesses too, booting them hard back up into the sky the moment any of them started to fall even a little.

Granted, he went off the rails near the end of his life though. I can't hold it against him, he lived a hard-won life and most people don't give him the respect he deserves since, unlike Bill Gates, he was never a very public person.

It's really shocking just how big an impact both Gates and Jobs have had on technology over the past thirty years alone, not including their impact on culture.
#100 to #92 - solarisofcelestia (02/17/2013) [-]
You learn something new every day.
You learn something new every day.
#102 to #100 - snowshark (02/17/2013) [-]
I freaking -LOVE- your .gifs by the way. xD   
   
That last one is classy as 						****					.
I freaking -LOVE- your .gifs by the way. xD

That last one is classy as **** .
#114 to #102 - solarisofcelestia (02/17/2013) [-]
Thank you very much. It was either that or this one, I think I chose well.
#115 to #114 - snowshark (02/17/2013) [-]
You certainly have good taste in reaction-pictures, my dear.
User avatar #68 to #66 - idiotbox (02/17/2013) [-]
HEY don't say halo 4 was bad.! that game was a great setup for the future of the halo games. Some of those moments in that game made moments where i had goosebumps of epicness. On another note you are pretty right about the other stuff, even though i thought the season 3 opening was pretty epic
User avatar #81 to #68 - snowshark (02/17/2013) [-]
There were some good moments in season 3's opening, but frankly the villain was a plot device more than he was a character. He just laughed and looked pretty generically evil. All the previous openings had a big focus on both the villains and the heroes which translated out to some very good stories. In Season 3 it was mostly about the heroes.

Still. It was nice to see Spike get to do something cool.

And Halo 4 was not bad storywise... but I saw an awful lot of it coming and I dislike where it is going. Because Cortana is clearly not dead and neither is the Didact. There are far too many indications towards where this story is going in the future and I have some big fears as to how it will play out. Though, since I'm not trying to spoil anything too badly (just stating the obvious) I won't point them out unless you want me to.

(Though I imagine you'll run across the things I refused to say here sooner or later. I'm not alone in my abilities to dissect a story but there's certainly people out there who are less spoiler-avoiding than I am.)
User avatar #88 to #81 - dtox (02/17/2013) [-]
I personally feel that there was a lack of inspiration due to hasbro shoe-horning the whole "Twilight has to be a princess" thing. Hasbro really imposed their authority this time around, so I'm curious if that is of any indication as to why season 3 was shorter than all the others, because even season 4 will have the usual 26 episodes.

Other than that, I have to disagree with you on a few things. I felt the music was pretty good, better than some in the past even, and that the whole thing with discord is a good thing, because now they can actually do something with him, rather than keeping him locked away.

Lastly, I feel the opener was executed rather well. Not as powerful as S2's opener, but that's because it lacked an interesting villain, it still had great production quality. The season finale for S3 was definitely weak compared to S2, but I feel that was because they were starved for time, and had to fit everything from the conflict to the coronation all in 23 minutes. This leads me to believe that that's why they used so many songs, as to convey as much emotion and scenes as they could in such a short amount of time, something that musicals are used for.

I'm personally looking forward to S4. Something to note is that megan mcarthy said that there's still 2 more parts to the finale, just we wont get them till S4.
User avatar #101 to #88 - snowshark (02/17/2013) [-]
Aye, I feel that Discord still has a part to play here.

However I still have to lock horns on a few of those issues. Whilst it is good that they can finally do things with Discord again, it is the -way- they did it that pisses me off. It was incredibly counter-character for him (although, you could argue that as he represents discord in all things, his sudden change is actually completely in-character. Still, it was badly written and forced.)

The opening to season 3 wasn't 'bad'. It just didn't stack up to the previous seasons.

The songs were very bland and had terrible lyrics. However, like what you want to like for whatever reasons you like. I'm a Grammar-Nazi, not an emotional Hitler.

But you hit the nail on the head with Hasbro. This season REEKS of product-placement. I just hope the ending to this story will be as powerful as it needs to be. I figure a few dark turns, perhaps including discord, would not only make up for the bad episode, but also create a stark juxtaposition between the two.
User avatar #104 to #101 - dtox (02/17/2013) [-]
I said the episode was "weak," not bad, in fact I'd put it above the gala episode, same with "the crystal empire" above "the mare in the moon."

I do agree that it did seem a little forced for someone like discord. I would have enjoyed it far more if it was a 2 parter, and allowed the feeling to sink in for what is possibly the fandom's favorite villain.

And I do agree on the part of the lyrics, they did feel somewhat uninspired. everything else, however, I thought was good.

Other than that, not sure what to expect from the next season. I'm glad to see that they're still thinking of derpy, seeing her put in one of the finale scenes after being absent from the season.
User avatar #108 to #104 - snowshark (02/17/2013) [-]
I didn't say you said it was bad. An apostrophe either side is used for emphasis and it is only when quotation marks are used that it is an actual quote. Sorry for the confusion.

However I have to disagree with you about the Gala. Because whilst I dislike watching the Gala episode (for the same reason I dislike watching Meet the Parents... because it's painful to watch people make fools of themselves sometimes) the episode has one of the best morals in the series. "Don't get your hopes up."

Granted, the moral is more complicated than that, but not many shows have the balls to tackle the issue of things not being quite as you would expect them to the scale that was done there.

However Mare in the Moon vs Crystal Empire... now that is actually a tough one. Whilst I feel Mare in the Moon has a far better plot, the Crystal Empire makes far better use of the Mane 6 since their personalities have developed a lot over that time... they're very close in that regard.
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User avatar #36 - Flare (02/17/2013) [-]
This reminds of dark souls when you first encounter seath.
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User avatar #34 - willindor (02/17/2013) [-]
No offense to anybody. But what is the point of making a pony version out of everything?
#84 to #34 - prancingkid (02/17/2013) [-]
Pony version? I thought it was just grown up Spike and his best friend, Immortal Princess Twilight Sparkle. What is it "ponifying" exactly, I'm curious?
User avatar #82 to #34 - dtox (02/17/2013) [-]
Well, first off, crossovers are fun, and the show often promotes crossovers.

Secondly, what does that have to do with this content in particular?
User avatar #39 to #34 - snowshark (02/17/2013) [-]
*shrug* Well... why not?

It's not like they're hurting anyone.
User avatar #29 - codyxvasco (02/16/2013) [-]
I really don't want spike to grow up....
#28 - camperdude (02/16/2013) [-]
My little Spikey-Wikey?!! OH MY GOODNESS.
My little Spikey-Wikey?!! OH MY GOODNESS.
User avatar #75 to #28 - RisenLichen ONLINE (02/17/2013) [-]
Fairly certain she'd be dead by then
User avatar #45 to #28 - Alchemyst (02/17/2013) [-]
Oh, now that he has a horde of Gems you're all excited!
User avatar #25 - fuzzum (02/16/2013) [-]
And this is why rarity shouldn't ignore spike, he'll be the king of everything one day Hahaha.
User avatar #11 - azraelthemage (02/16/2013) [-]
Holy **** , is that spyro? ******* love taht game!!!
#37 to #11 - anonymous (02/17/2013) [-]
Spyro has yellow/golden spikes instead of green. I only just found that out recently, and I always assumed that he was purple/green like many other dragons represented in fiction.
User avatar #129 to #37 - azraelthemage (02/17/2013) [-]
Thank you Dr. Killjoy for your analysis.
#27 to #11 - ayero (02/16/2013) [-]
How did I never notice this...
User avatar #18 to #11 - tortus (02/16/2013) [-]
oh the nostalgia from spyro
i miss those games
User avatar #15 to #11 - kingrayne ONLINE (02/16/2013) [-]
No, its Spike, because plebs
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