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User avatar #16 - zuflux ONLINE (02/14/2013) [-]
I don't get this. We'd have to get our asses to school be there 7 feet of snow outside.
I vaguely remember someone told me while I was in school that we could stay home if the temperature fell below 30 degrees celsius. which it never did where I lived.

so, either us scandinavians are hardasses, or there's something wrong in the Us when it comes to being prepared for snowy conditions.

It's february, and I don't have snow tires on. Guess I'm staying home from work!
User avatar #35 to #16 - hookydoo (02/14/2013) [-]
first I want to say that I am not intimidated by driving in the snow, I think its fun. Secondly, isn't it really expensive to drive in Scandinavia? I've never been, but I have a friend that's Danish and currently resides in Stockholm who mentioned that it is quite expensive. He said aside from regular costs of driving, you also need to pay for driving classes. just curious.
User avatar #49 to #35 - zuflux ONLINE (02/14/2013) [-]
Someone already replied with the best of answers anyone could give.

But I will say this. In Norway we still treat having a car like a luxury, and even if you can own a cat that you can keep road legal, you'd had to deal with sub par roads with major rot,crack,holes and salting that for some reason replaces proper plowing in some areas. Salting is also very overdone in the winter. And I even think that driving on snow covered road is better than driving on wet, sleety roads full of brown dough-snow.
User avatar #50 to #49 - hookydoo (02/15/2013) [-]
are you saying the roads there are salted but not plowed? that kind of defeats the purpose.. the plows remove the snow, then the salt removes any remaining ice left on the road. you guys also have lots of public transportation options dont you?
User avatar #51 to #50 - zuflux ONLINE (02/15/2013) [-]
Sometimes they get real lazy. It's not a frequent thing, at least, but it happens.

And yes, we have a lot of regular busses in the area close to citites and towns, but the availability dramatically falls when you cross out into the districts.

I would much rather they just let the snow set before they treat the roads. I mean, if you let the snow fall, and then plow. But no salting. It makes the road wet, and cars often suffer from lots of rust and repair expenses.
I find that driving on the surface on hard packed snow gives me much more comfort, and in a way it's safer, because people know that it's slippery. Salting and sanding is a kind of false security in my mind.
User avatar #52 to #51 - hookydoo (02/15/2013) [-]
well sort of, (if your interested to know) salt actually lowers the freezing point of H2O (water) so where it would normally freeze at 0' C, it will now freeze somewhere below 0. Different salts can have varying effects on water's freezing point. you can also add salt to cooking water to make it boil faster. sand however has no such effect, and merely provides grit for your tires so they wont slip on ice. ice also is what causes cracks and potholes on roads via freezing and thawing. When water freezes, it expands, thus busting apart the road. In my opinion, the best way to treat a road would be to scrape all the snow off of it, then salt it so the remaining ice melts, leaving you with just a wet road. btw, the salt on the roads helps speed the oxidation (rust) process on your car. sorry if you said this already and I wasn't paying attention, i'm tired... and now late for my calc class...
User avatar #53 to #52 - zuflux ONLINE (02/17/2013) [-]
You are right on all the facts, though I know them from before.

My Thing here, is that prework before salting can often be badly done. Also, if it's below -10 the snow only turns into a salty dough, because it's too cold for it to melt.

If they could only let the snow fall, and minimize roadworking it, they could save money, and car problems.
User avatar #54 to #53 - hookydoo (02/17/2013) [-]
lol, so I didn't mention that a dumbass plowed my street with a road grader last week.. they had the blade too far down and "plowed" the top 3 inches of road into a nice pile on the side of the now dirt road.
#42 to #35 - fedabu (02/14/2013) [-]
Well, if you want to live in scandinavia and drive a car. Norway is the worst place you could live when it comes to expenses on cars and driving in the country.
Yearly we pay a fee of 2800-3300NOK just to own a ******* car with license plates.
Insurance is way more than what you`re car is worth if it is a cheap car.
You have to pay toll almost everywhere you drive.
If you are a student, have a car, can afford insurance and the yearly fee. Then it`s not likely you are able to pay for gas since it`s 15NOK for each litre. (1gallon=3,8litres.)
User avatar #23 to #16 - lukewarmpigeon (02/14/2013) [-]
a majority of Americans cannot drive in weather, north and east of Michigan's southern peninsula and Alaska can but from what i have seen rain ***** with these people
User avatar #28 to #19 - orrihaa (02/14/2013) [-]
i find the lack of Iceland disturbing
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