We will raise the minimum wage claps. stands claps some more We are really good at this whole clapping thing you guys. But did you know there is more behind it
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We will raise the minimum wage *claps*

We will raise the minimum wage claps. stands claps some more We are really good at this whole clapping thing you guys. But did you know there is more behind it

*stands* *claps some more*

We are really good at this whole clapping thing you guys. But did you know there is more behind it all?

Minimum Wager . 00
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#58 - bausch ONLINE (02/14/2013) [-]
OOORRRR.... you could learn a skill that is worth more than 7.25 an hour... nobody should be getting 9 dollars an hour for 			*******		 flipping burgers or sweeping floors    
also you can live on 7.25 an hour you just dont get to have the mandatory iphone that everyone has now adays.
OOORRRR.... you could learn a skill that is worth more than 7.25 an hour... nobody should be getting 9 dollars an hour for ******* flipping burgers or sweeping floors

also you can live on 7.25 an hour you just dont get to have the mandatory iphone that everyone has now adays.
User avatar #68 to #58 - graphenz (02/14/2013) [-]
I live on 900$ a month, where as half is rent. I even get to drink beers and have enough money to buy books (when I don't download them) so I don't see a problem?
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User avatar #61 to #39 - techketzer (02/14/2013) [-]
#72 to #39 - Maroon (02/14/2013) [-]
I like you, guy.
#40 to #39 - wulphshadowtail (02/14/2013) [-]
Some of us may be rather childish, but they enjoy being so. Why not let them have there fun, as long as is isn't hurting anybody?
#45 to #40 - anon (02/14/2013) [-]
#52 to #45 - pimpsandwich (02/14/2013) [-]
I applaud you, good sir.
#47 to #39 - kaslin (02/14/2013) [-]
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#13 - anon (02/14/2013) [-]
When British Columbia raised the minimum wage from 8 to 9.50 McDonalds raised their prices by a minimum of 0.50$ before the increase had even taken effect. They jumped the gun by almost a year.
#41 - twistan (02/14/2013) [-]
In Australia the minimum wage is $16/hour.
U mad amerifags?
User avatar #57 to #41 - psykobear (02/14/2013) [-]
#60 to #41 - anon (02/14/2013) [-]
In Denmark it was 103,15 kr. = 18,43 $ in 2009.

It is even higher now - It is not for nothing Danes ar ethe happiest people in the world :D
#49 to #41 - tydrodron (02/14/2013) [-]
Lolnope, worked at doughnut king for a year for $10 an hour weekdays
User avatar #18 - gagster (02/14/2013) [-]
Giving unfair opportunitys to the rich = Capitalism/Free trade ect
Giving Any opportunity to the lower class = Socialism/ Marx ect
#20 to #18 - anon (02/14/2013) [-]
the great thing about capitalism is anyone has the chance to get rich, and anyone has the chance to go bankrupt.
User avatar #24 to #20 - gagster (02/14/2013) [-]
too big to fail
User avatar #74 - wolverinebamf ONLINE (02/14/2013) [-]
The point is that raising minimum wage speeds up inflation, and will likely cost jobs for lower class- lower middle class people.

Raising minimum wage will do no good for anyone.
#79 to #74 - anon (02/14/2013) [-]
raising minimum wage will let me actually pay my rent for a little while
User avatar #80 to #79 - wolverinebamf ONLINE (02/14/2013) [-]
Why did you move out if you were getting paid minimum wage?
#73 - anon (02/14/2013) [-]
Its funny watching funnyjunk try to talk about politics or economics because yall know almost nothing
#63 - mkchillin (02/14/2013) [-]
With minimum wages being raised, employers will hire fewer workers
With minimum wages being raised, employers will hire fewer workers
User avatar #42 - fantomen (02/14/2013) [-]
Still only half the price of a big mac in Europe.
User avatar #46 to #42 - kingnarnode (02/14/2013) [-]
dude I live in canada and like everything is cheaper in the states, one of the benefits of living on the border lol. our dollar is worth more, their prices are cheaper= super win for me
#55 to #46 - bausch ONLINE (02/14/2013) [-]
not anymore. 1 USD = 1.00082 CAD
User avatar #56 to #55 - kingnarnode (02/14/2013) [-]
User avatar #2 - pompladouche (02/13/2013) [-]
min wage increase sounds awesome if I was 16 and saving for a car so I can take my gal on a date. My GM already told me if the MW increases we are going to slow down hiring to compensate. Truth
User avatar #10 to #2 - jovisman (02/14/2013) [-]
so that means more work and more wages for the employees you already have.And eventually demand from customers will force the employer to You need to login to view this link is not a perfect solution but it is much better than the alternative
User avatar #14 to #10 - thepyras (02/14/2013) [-]
More work, yes, but more money? Unfortunately that isn't the case. You see, money is not an object that can be given a definite value, but rather it is a numerical value that is given to purchasable goods or services. Raising the minimum wage will only give people more money for a very short amount of time, enough time for inflation to catch up to it. This is one of the problems of dealing with a currency that isn't based on anything physically measurable. Raising wages causes the raising of prices meaning that workers become able to afford less and demand that their wages be raised, and the cycle repeats itself from there. In other words, raising the minimum wage from $7.25 to $9 doesn't really make much of a difference if you can still only afford the original $7.25's value in goods and services, not to mention that the process eventually makes your currency worthless.
User avatar #86 to #14 - jovisman (02/14/2013) [-]
#22 to #14 - anon (02/14/2013) [-]
on top of all this, the rise in minimum wage will also force those not worth the new minimum wage to be laid off, and quite possibly having the job either replaced by a machine which does it for a fraction of the cost, or to have it outsourced.
User avatar #85 to #22 - jovisman (02/14/2013) [-]
if they are not worth the job why worry.I am positive that there are plenty of people worthy of the job.I know this because I know quite a few
User avatar #91 to #85 - thepyras (02/15/2013) [-]
Also, what about overtime?
User avatar #90 to #85 - thepyras (02/15/2013) [-]
It isn't about the people not being worthy of the job, it's about the job not being worthy of what it costs to keep it up. Do you remember when gas stations had attendants that would pump your gas and squeegee your car? I don't either, because it was decided by someone that it cost too much to keep those guys working.
User avatar #51 to #22 - thepyras (02/14/2013) [-]
That too.
#1 - icheatjews (02/13/2013) [-]
SO ******* TRUE
#3 - qdos (02/14/2013) [-]
it is well past time for a minimum wage increase. Trickle down economics is a joke. more money in the poorest hands means more money spent.
User avatar #6 to #3 - jovisman (02/14/2013) [-]
amazing how simple concepts are ignored
#7 to #6 - qdos (02/14/2013) [-]
such as?
User avatar #8 to #7 - jovisman (02/14/2013) [-]
if someone is poor and barely making it any extra money made will be spent almost immediately spent.Thus reentering the economy and thus spurring growth at least in theory.Rich people get extra money and tend to put it in the bank making other rich people richer.not saying that rich people shouldnt do that but just saying that you get better bang for your buck in rasing minimum wage over tax relief for the wealthy.the latter does have some benefit but not as much as putting cash in the hands of people making much less
#9 to #8 - qdos (02/14/2013) [-]
umm im fairly certain you just supported my point. im saying more money in the poorest hands means more money spent which is a good thing.
#21 to #9 - anon (02/14/2013) [-]
i agree, though i'm not so sure raising minimum wage is the way to do it. the more companies have to pay workers, the small the profit margin for the company. the smaller the profit margin the more they try to pad the loss by increasing product/service prices, laying off those who aren't worth the amount they'll be required to pay, which will more than likely either be outsourced to another country, or replaced with a machine that does it for a fraction of the price. there are huge draw backs for raising minimum wage for workers, these are problems which should be resolved before any such plan is put forward.
User avatar #11 to #9 - jovisman (02/14/2013) [-]
I support your point.I did not mean my comment to be taken as any other way.
#12 to #11 - qdos (02/14/2013) [-]
ah my apologies I was confused.
User avatar #87 to #12 - jovisman (02/14/2013) [-]
no worries I should have been more clear
#16 - anon (02/14/2013) [-]
Socialism is not the answer to increasing the quality of life for Americans. When you make it easy to be a nothing, just another turd floating around the United States welfare system looking to get something for nothing, then you are guaranteed an ever increasing amount of people will allow themselves to fall to that low state, because they are so simple that they believe that they are happy with living in their own filth.

What needs to happen does not involve sending government checks and debit cards to these low-life pieces of scum. What it does involve is setting up camps for the homeless and hungry where you can sleep and eat for free, but you will not eat good food, and the sleeping accommodations would be 10 to a room. Money should never enter into the equation. If they have children, take them away from them and put them in foster systems. Poor people do not deserve to have kids. If you can't pay for your own brat don't ******* have one, because if you do it should be taken from you.

Regarding minimum wage increases, not only are they completely ineffective but they decrease the available amount of jobs. When you're paying an employee $9 an hour you are damn sure going to get your money's worth from them, and you better believe you aren't going to tolerate ******** in your store who are as much a drain on your labor percentages as they are on society.... so really what increasing minimum wage does is increase the welfare state even further as less and less jobs are available, more people either have no job or will settle for minimum wage rather than work even harder for a job that only pays a dollar more.... and so you end up with millions of people either not working or working ****** jobs with no intention of bettering themselves nor anyone else.

And all the while what are you doing for honest people who worked to get ahead in life? You're ******** on their sweat and tears and handing out freebies to the mentally handicapped.

User avatar #17 to #16 - PgFalcon (02/14/2013) [-]
In all honesty, I really think that once you become an adult (i.e. you turn 18 years of age) you should be forced to take an intelligence test. If you get a low score you should be forced to become chemically sterile. If you get a very low score you should be executed unceremoniously. To ward off bad luck, everyone should be allowed to retake the test a second time if they want to.

America's average intelligence would skyrocket.

Similarly, if you are without a job or not actively attending school for 2 years in a row you should be chemically sterilized, and if it continues for 4 years you should be unceremoniously executed.

You would even create jobs by hiring squads of people whose sole job is to find people who have run away from society due to a sentence of death or sterilization and bring them back to face their fate.
#44 to #17 - Xepheros (02/14/2013) [-]
Cool story, fascist scum. Personally, I enjoy freedom.
User avatar #25 to #17 - Shramin ONLINE (02/14/2013) [-]
The population may drop as well...

All countries need people that are not very smart, or do you think rocket scientist are working in factories packing ping pong balls?
User avatar #23 to #16 - Crusader (02/14/2013) [-]
I would agree with you, but a little bit of socialism has done great things.
Look at Canada and the UK
User avatar #29 to #23 - sketchE ONLINE (02/14/2013) [-]
werent ther massive riots in the UK recently?
User avatar #82 to #29 - Crusader (02/14/2013) [-]
You act as if there are never riots in the USA
User avatar #83 to #82 - sketchE ONLINE (02/14/2013) [-]
i never said that. just pointing out people werent hapy with the UKs government so they rioted.
User avatar #84 to #83 - Crusader (02/14/2013) [-]
Bu that isn't what happened.
There was a protest where a bunch of random people came in and started a riot, it wasn't that they were angry with the government, it was that they wanted to break things.

Also, that doesn't change the fact that the UK and Canada have slightly higher average living standards than the USA.
User avatar #28 to #16 - memescomefromb (02/14/2013) [-]
I agree on you with some things. Except for foster care for children. If that was the case, I would have been a foster child. I think that would mentally **** up a lot of people. On top of the fact that it is hard for the children in foster homes to find a family as it is now.
User avatar #32 to #16 - whitenerdy (02/14/2013) [-]
Will all do respect, I don't believe that you, or anyone on fj can talk about how the president and all his Harvard graduate economists, but if you want to start a discussion, I oblige.

> increasing minimum wage does is increase the welfare state even further as less and less jobs are available.
- Scandinavia doesn't have any jobs in reality, they're as inefficient countries as Africa in a whole. Even if the famous Krueger and Card study concludes that “We find no indication that the rise in the minimum wage reduced Employment.”
>What needs to happen does not involve sending government checks and debit cards to these low-life pieces of scum.
- Such as handicaped people, both people with lost limbs after going to war, but also those who're born defects, and not just black people who receives unneeded daycare.

The minimum wage has many benefits. It reduces inequality by redistributing income from business towards low wage workers. It provides a boost to the economy as low wage workers spend almost all of the money rather than saving it as richer people do. It also reduces poverty and directly helps the poorest workers. By increasing workers wages it improves their morale and therefore productivity as well as reducing turnover (a major expense in low wage industries like food & drink). Wages are not the be all and end all. Often they are not even the main expense (as in capital intensive industries) or most important (as in inelastic industries).

I would like to finish on one final note. America has this thing called food stamps, which basically means that if you cannot afford food, the government will give you money to buy it. Many of the people on food stamps have a job. It is a terrible injustice. There should be a simple rule in life that if you are willing to get a job and work hard, you should be able to feed yourself. That is why I believe that the government should guarantee everyone who has a job gets a living wage and is not mired in poverty.
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#34 to #16 - anon (02/14/2013) [-]
> Be Denmark
> Be Democratic Socialistic
> Happiest people in the world and one of the best healthcare systems.
"Socialism is not the answer to increasing the quality of life."

No, let the poor people live on less money then they need to pay rent and to buy food, let them take a loan so that they can survive, and then take another loan to pay that loan, and suddenly all poor people in America work "for free" because all the money they receive they have to pay to get out of debt, and proudly the middle class / highclass America stand with their head high and pronouns that America have the best economical system in the world while Chinese children die in factories to make your economical saving car so you can spend even less money on people and even more on useless **** you don't need.

Shut your cunt face, I pay 50% of everything I earn to taxes and I don't bitch about how much low class people earn.
#50 - anon (02/14/2013) [-]
Universal health care makes for a higher cost of living. It's not free health care.
User avatar #38 - wertgf (02/14/2013) [-]
Assuming every person they employ makes 1 burger per hour?
#92 - anon (02/01/2014) [-]
Awww, all you people might have to get off your lazy asses and cook food for yourself. How will you ever survive? I come home after working 10 hour shifts at a fast food restaurant and cook dinner for my family but you can't get out of your car for your Big Mac? It might raise the costs a little but perhaps it might help someone else, stop being focused on yourself and pretend there are other people in the world.
User avatar #70 - graphenz (02/14/2013) [-]
you do know you're not supposed to live off burgers when you're on minimum wage right? I mean you can live off 900$ if you want, and you can live just fine, then you have a spare of 800$ you can put to what you want, 900 is included everything you need.
User avatar #64 - lordlolland (02/14/2013) [-]
Sooo... You need one guy to work one hour to make one burger?
Because that is what you are implying by saying that one burger will rise the same amount that the minimum wage will rise.
User avatar #65 to #64 - winsauceiswin (02/14/2013) [-]
if you have to pay your employees more you're going to do one of two likely things:

1 fire workers to maintain current profits or
2 raise prices to maintain current profits

the picture is just an example i think
User avatar #66 to #65 - lordlolland (02/14/2013) [-]
I know that, but this picture is unnecessarily hyperbolic.
User avatar #67 to #66 - winsauceiswin (02/14/2013) [-]
hyperbolic? what do you mean?
User avatar #69 to #67 - Accidentalninja (02/14/2013) [-]
He just means it is quite exaggerated.
User avatar #71 to #69 - winsauceiswin (02/14/2013) [-]
yeah i don't think he understands the word hyperbolic lol
User avatar #75 to #71 - lordlolland (02/14/2013) [-]
Hyperbole (pron.: /haɪˈpɜrbəliː/ hy-PUR-bə-lee;[1] Greek: ὑπερβολή hyperbolē, "exaggeration") is the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech.

In rhetoric, a rhetorical device or resource of language is a technique that an author or speaker uses to convey to the listener or reader a meaning with the goal of persuading him or her towards considering a topic from a different perspective.

Please do tell me how that does not apply to a picture that tries to put minimum wage in a bad light or at least start a debate about it, I am very curious.
User avatar #77 to #75 - winsauceiswin (02/14/2013) [-]
btw that's hyperbole not hyperbolic, you're still incorrect in your usage of the word lol
User avatar #78 to #77 - lordlolland (02/14/2013) [-]
Hyperbolic refers to something related to or in shape of hyperbola (a type of curve), or to something employing the literary device of hyperbole (overstatement or plausible exaggeration).
#76 to #75 - winsauceiswin (02/14/2013) [-]
engineer here not english major, to me hyperbolic means something relating to hyperbolas
engineer here not english major, to me hyperbolic means something relating to hyperbolas
#62 - anon (02/14/2013) [-]
That's just not how economics works
#48 - anon (02/14/2013) [-]
Minimum wage isn't supposed to be lived on. If you don't like what you're getting paid go somewhere else. Competitive economy **** tards.
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