Truth. Hump Day Girls in Yoga Pants!----> Liberal Arts Major Graduation Time Engineering Major


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#217 to #124 - anon (02/07/2013) [-]
sorry, but in college they just congregate in fraternitys. And they are still just as ******* retarded as in high school if not worse.
User avatar #40 - Sinless (02/07/2013) [-]
That feel when 6 math courses
That feel when have to take multiple math classes at same time cause degree schedule
That feel when you dream math
That feel when you nightmares about math
That feel when all you see are equations
That feel when mathematics

Feel with me engineers.....feel with me
#137 to #40 - anon (02/07/2013) [-]
i know that feeling bro
User avatar #153 to #40 - treska (02/07/2013) [-]
Engineers, check this out!!
Go engineer!
User avatar #166 to #40 - trojanmannn (02/07/2013) [-]
I'm in high school right now and I'm going into engineering. With what everyone is saying, my life will be hell
#196 to #40 - anon (02/07/2013) [-]
EE with math minor here
I feel you bro
#47 to #40 - destroyerofcunt (02/07/2013) [-]
#56 to #40 - themapestree (02/07/2013) [-]
Physics/math double. I am taking 3 math and 2 physics classes this semester. I feel you!
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User avatar #133 to #40 - notsureifanon (02/07/2013) [-]
Just asking

but if you have sex with a girl

do you ask her to sqrt?
#155 - cptneckbeard (02/07/2013) [-]
MFW I finished the Midterm
User avatar #178 to #155 - eccleston (02/07/2013) [-]
You're allowed to use calculators on your exams? You lucky bastard...
User avatar #180 to #178 - babyanalraper (02/07/2013) [-]
Ehhm, no higher studies of math I know of demand that you do complicated multiplication in your head.
User avatar #186 to #180 - eccleston (02/07/2013) [-]
I'm studying Computer Science and I wasn't allowed to bring a Calculator in my Algebra and Calculus finals.
You're supposed to know how to do basic arithmetic operations (addition, subtraction, multiplication and division) without one when you're at university (at least if you're studying engineering).
User avatar #267 to #186 - panacamanana (02/07/2013) [-]
Perhaps he is referring to trigonometric functions.
User avatar #269 to #267 - eccleston (02/07/2013) [-]
The few times I had to deal with trigonometric functions was with "easy angles" (0, 30, 45, 60, 90, 120, 135, 150 and 180 degrees) or with constants I could not simplify.
However, you have a valid point here. Having to give approximations of irrational numbers without a calculator isn't easy.
User avatar #272 to #269 - panacamanana (02/07/2013) [-]
Yes, have fun deriving the slope of a polynomial with trig functions in it at a given point, without a calculator.
User avatar #189 to #186 - babyanalraper (02/07/2013) [-]
Where do you live? Doesn't sound like anything close to Swedish universities.
User avatar #193 to #189 - eccleston (02/07/2013) [-]
I live near Girona, and I started my studies at the Technical University of Catalonia (known as UPC). I had to take Calculus twice, but I managed to make it.
User avatar #161 to #155 - lasmamoe (02/07/2013) [-]
Oh the horror!
#13 - wyldek (02/07/2013) [-]
Silly OP, you know Liberal Arts majors can't read graphs.
User avatar #97 to #13 - melwach (02/07/2013) [-]
Those damn liberals. Talkin' all smart, but unable to comprehend even the simplest graphs. How should they ever make decent politics?
User avatar #148 to #97 - facedodge (02/07/2013) [-]
You realize liberal arts doesn't have **** to do with ideology and politics right?
User avatar #199 to #148 - lamarisagoodname (02/07/2013) [-]
shhhh leave them in blissful ignorance
User avatar #285 to #148 - melwach (02/10/2013) [-]
You obviously don't realise that this was just really have to be careful on this site ~~
#165 - savannahijack (02/07/2013) [-]
PS pro
#87 - wovow (02/07/2013) [-]
#107 to #87 - anon (02/07/2013) [-]
Dude so ******* wrong. from 2011.

The numbers have only gotten better since and math now has 3 careers in the top 5. Stop bitching. Besides, if you chose it as a major it should be because you love it. So man up or gtfo.
User avatar #169 to #107 - anonymoose (02/07/2013) [-]
The persons quality of life more than doubled in this graph, post graduation.
User avatar #27 - Ruspanic (02/07/2013) [-]
The engineers at my school call the rest of us "arts and crafts" majors.
User avatar #49 to #27 - reginleif (02/07/2013) [-]
I'm only a biology major and I call people that. :/

We consider engineers and physicists to be no lifes. ^^

Guess the video game curve applies to rl huh?
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User avatar #23 - gibroner ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
I considered getting a degree in theater but then I remembered I can be unemployed without getting a degree
#205 to #156 - funmanigro (02/07/2013) [-]
No, not really, Penetration testing is pretty fun.
User avatar #218 - fancyshark (02/07/2013) [-]
came here to procrastinate thermo, and this is what I see. 'sigh' ok i guess ill get back to work
User avatar #265 to #218 - anonymoose (02/07/2013) [-]
Hey! You!

Stop reading this and go back to work.
User avatar #135 - pulluspardus (02/07/2013) [-]
"Law Major"
Asshole rising to infinity and beyond.
#6 - trickytrickster (02/07/2013) [-]
If you want to go to college and study Art History or Philosophy, go ahead. Just don't bitch and moan when you can't get a job after college "even though you have a college degree".
#3 - IAMDIZZYONFANTA (02/07/2013) [-]
Put this before, putting it again. Read top to bottom with the comment below.

I'm going to sound like a butthurt libtard, but what happened to going to university to learn something beyond the vocational?

I call it Enlightenment/Employment.

Some people go to University to better their chances of Employment. This is by doing courses such as accounting, advertising, fashion and so on. These people will have good work prospects outside of education, and will likely receive a high pay grade, economy willing. However, what they learn doesn't matter to them as a person outside of their employment, and won't really change them as a person beyond making them a more attractive employee. Any changes to the person occurs because of influences beyond their course.

Others go to University for Enlightenment. This is typified by humanities subjects such as writing, art, photography, philosophy, those kind of things. People that take these will be unlikely to get as good jobs as those that went for Employment, but will have learned something that they will likely value for the rest of their lives, as compared to say accounting, which has no value beyond work. They will be greatly changed as a person by their course. Anyone who does a course like this and then complains about employers being biased against their degree should probably be shot, since they know and employers know that jobs aren't why they did their degree.

Then there are those who go for a bit of both, such as languages and science students. You have to be a clever **** to do those though.
User avatar #28 to #3 - Ruspanic (02/07/2013) [-]
But what if I actually want to go into international relations
#129 to #28 - IAMDIZZYONFANTA (02/07/2013) [-]
Then there's nothing wrong with that. I'm not knocking vocationals, I'm just saying that they're different to non-vocationals and the government is very nervous about letting people study a course that won't give the economy a return in ~4 years time.
User avatar #248 to #129 - Ruspanic (02/07/2013) [-]
Well, I'm studying the field because it interests me and I want to know more about it, and I want to work in the field for the same reason. It's not a major that's in very high demand on the job market, and most International Studies don't make as much money as science or engineering majors. I'm trying to compensate by learning languages.

Also, I live in the US and go to a private university. As far as I'm aware, the government doesn't require exams like you describe on how to get a job and such, though I did have to fulfill similar requirements in high school (mock job interview, etc). I guess with public schools that makes some sense, since they're funded by tax dollars.
User avatar #31 to #3 - skysailor (02/07/2013) [-]
Not necessarily. Certain paths may really have life changing and highly valuable prospects. Perhaps engineering isn't simply building up new things, but an art. Some people really love fashion or science or what not. Personally, I think you should do whatever you're passionate about. The money tends to be a plus if your job happens to pay well.
User avatar #33 to #31 - Ruspanic (02/07/2013) [-]
Well, you do have to get a job, and it should be high-paying enough to live comfortably AND pay off your college loans.
#45 to #3 - anon (02/07/2013) [-]
Currently doing a 3-2 combined plan Liberal Arts/Engineering program. ****** awesome
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User avatar #72 to #3 - usernameerror (02/07/2013) [-]
I'm pretty much on the opposite side of the spectrum than from where you are and I thought it'd be nice to see things from the other side of the glass. I am actually an accounting major and plan on going to get a masters in taxation (and if all goes well) become a certified public accountant.

I was influenced on this career choice because of my parents who own an accounting firm and owning a small business from what they told me is the greatest. The competition of the business world and all the challenges it brings is something i look forward to. I don't know how to explain it but it's great. I've done door to door sales, telemarketing, bookkeeping, so I know what I'm getting myself into but i know I can build myself up from there.

However boring this life may be, I always find time for enlightenment. I don't want to take a class where they force you to learn about art or philosophy, I like taking my own path down those roads in what interests me, not what the teacher wants me to learn. For example, I used to love to draw so I decided to take a drawing class and the teacher forced us to draw 'still lifes' for weeks on end and thats not how I wanted to learn how to draw and eventually caused me to stop wanting to draw all together.

TL;DR - College should be for employment and enlightenment shouldn't be something we learn in a classroom
#126 to #72 - IAMDIZZYONFANTA (02/07/2013) [-]
Don't worry, I'm not saying you shouldn't do that kind of thing. For you, that is enlightenment. What I'm trying to say is that everyone should do what they want, without having **** from the other end of the spectrum shoved in. And the enlightenment I talk about we don't learn in a classroom. I, personally, get it through being shown more "literary" literature beyond the mainstream, such as David Foster Wallace. We aren't taught it, we're just given the information and drive to find it ourselves.
User avatar #125 to #3 - admiralen ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
shouldve chosen a better word mate, if i wanna be enlightened i go to buddhist monks not an university
#29 to #3 - kovymast (02/07/2013) [-]
In the past, people went to the university for learning and for personal enrichment. Today, university students are there to fill jobs. This is due to the high tuition fees in many universities. You won't pay 10000$ per year only for your personal knowledge. You want something in exchange; you want a high paied job. Also, with high tuition, students will come out of college with high debts to pay. Right after they are out of the university, they are at the mercy of financial institutions.   
This is called neoliberalism and we need to fight it.
In the past, people went to the university for learning and for personal enrichment. Today, university students are there to fill jobs. This is due to the high tuition fees in many universities. You won't pay 10000$ per year only for your personal knowledge. You want something in exchange; you want a high paied job. Also, with high tuition, students will come out of college with high debts to pay. Right after they are out of the university, they are at the mercy of financial institutions.
This is called neoliberalism and we need to fight it.
User avatar #34 to #3 - luidias (02/07/2013) [-]
while I agree with you, it feels like the enlightenment aspect won't apply to all that many students. To me, I think the enlightenment aspect only truly affects those who are studying things they are interested in. Therefore, any student that is taking a technical, work-focused program will still be 'enlightened' so long as they are studying what they enjoy. These people will hold onto and cherish what they learned, regardless of whether or not they are using it for work.

At the same time, there are those who go to college because "it's the right thing to do," and then they take these "enlightenment" courses, but they don't enjoy any of them. They study solely with the intent to pass their courses, and don't really retain much of the course contents. In the end, they come out with a relatively useless degree, without really having learned anything that they're particularly interested in. this a terrible situation to be in.

TL;DR any program or course can be enlightening, so long as it covers material that you enjoy and are interested in.
#98 to #34 - panacamanana (02/07/2013) [-]
I'm with this guy, some statements in comment #3 seem somewhat biased. Not everybody views these "vocational" courses the same way. While some may think of these courses as mere obstacles of credentialism others view them with passion. I find the the more I learn in theses courses, the more the world opens up to me. I begin to have a more in-depth understanding of things and a deeper appreciation for how it all fits together. The more I learn in these "vocational" classes, the more beautiful the world becomes. Now tell me that's not enlightenment.
User avatar #36 to #3 - I Am Monkey (02/07/2013) [-]
You have a point, but the students seem largely aware of the distinction. I have to take a few of these "enlightenment" courses as part of my general education requirements and the students in them all seem to think they're going to find work in philosophy or 16th century womens' literature. Also, there's a fine line between enlightenment and inflating your ego. If you want to further your education for the educations sake, more power to you, but don't think yourself Socrates pouring coffee cups.
#41 to #3 - anon (02/07/2013) [-]
Your argument carries with it the implicit and arbitrary categorisation of subjects into either "employment" or "enlightenment". There can be considerable overlap. For example, economics might be a highly marketable degree, but an understanding of the interaction of people and resources can be enlightening and interesting. What I mean is that "employment" and "enlightenment" do not need to be mutually exclusive categories.
#127 to #41 - IAMDIZZYONFANTA (02/07/2013) [-]
There's another half to my point lying around on this content that mentions combined stuff. And I may have failed to make the point strongly enough that enlightenment is a personal thing. usernameerror up above has found enlightenment in his accounting major.
#5 to #3 - allamericandude (02/07/2013) [-]
Solution: Take classes for a proper "vocational" major, but also take "enlightenment" classes on the side. A lot of universities (including mine) actually require this. I'm a sophomore studying aerospace engineering, but I've also taken classes in philosophy and anthropology. And if I have my way, I'm going to be taking some music classes too.

You're about to be a fully-fledged adult, with all the responsibilities that comes with it. That's why it's important to prepare yourself for the working world. But that doesn't mean you can't also do what you love. And if you play your cards right, your career and the thing you love doing can be the same thing.

So try to get the most out of your college experience. College can be both educational and fun, just be ready to put in the work.
#7 to #5 - IAMDIZZYONFANTA (02/07/2013) [-]
That's a choice for many, yes. And it's obviously working for you. But it shouldn't be a requirement of everyone. Some people go to uni because they want to learn something specific, and aren't interested in the vocational side of things. How this affects them beyond education is down to them. They have to make that choice, it shouldn't be made for them. What's even sillier is that even the mature students, who are all 30-70, are required to do the employability modules as well.
User avatar #8 to #7 - allamericandude (02/07/2013) [-]
I think you misunderstood me. In my case, the "vocational" degree was what I chose, and the "enlightenment" courses are a requirement of that degree program (although I get to choose which ones to take). But I can also choose to take extra courses if I wish. And I'm pretty sure you can take such courses even if you aren't in a degree program. As long as you're willing to pay.

Nobody actually cares if you get a job after college (except maybe your family). Those employment lectures you attend are really just suggestions (if they're just lectures). If you can get by without getting a job, then go for it. But 99% of people go to college to improve their career potential. Very few people [can afford to] go to college just for fun.
#9 to #8 - IAMDIZZYONFANTA (02/07/2013) [-]
It's not just lectures, it's exams. If we fail them, we fail the degree. It is literally required that our worth to the state is evaluated, even if we came here to discuss art. Welcome to England under Cameron.
User avatar #10 to #9 - allamericandude (02/07/2013) [-]
Exams on....what? How to get a job?
#11 to #10 - IAMDIZZYONFANTA (02/07/2013) [-]
Yup. You know, I really wish I was kidding. We have 2 a week. It's only humanities students though. One two hour one in the main lecture hall, telling us EVERY WEEK how to write a CV or make yourself presentable for an interview, and then a separate hour lecture with our subject prof. later in the week. Luckily my subject lecturer is a mad old anarchist, so he just gets angry and rants about state control because he's forced to do the employability lectures.

I don't even know why they do it. Every week, we get at least three people saying something along the lines of "you do realise these lectures and exams are useless, right? We know how to write a CV. We know Cameron's scared because humanities students don't contribute to the Great Society, but we're not *********** . You don't need to tell us this.
User avatar #14 to #11 - allamericandude (02/07/2013) [-]
Oh, I had a class kinda like that. It was sort of an introduction to college/engineering/looking for employment thing. We prepared a resume and stuff. It was pretty easy. One of those bs introductory classes they make you take.

What year are you? It sounds like you're new (don't be offended if I'm wrong). If so, don't worry. I'm no expert on the English university system, but the course you're in sounds like an introductory thing. Just stomach it for the first semester or so and be done with it.
#15 to #14 - IAMDIZZYONFANTA (02/07/2013) [-]
I'm first year, it's only for this year. And it's all very well and good to say "just stomach it," but we do four modules a year. This module came in this year. It removed a course-relevant module in order to shove the government's capitalist agenda where it doesn't belong, and it's sickening, both to the lecturers and the students. The humanities lecturers really don't miss a chance to tell us what ******** it is.
User avatar #16 to #15 - allamericandude (02/07/2013) [-]
Trust me, you'll be fine. It's really not that unusual. Lots of colleges have introductory classes like that that they have the students take. It's not an agenda, it's just a way to introduce you to the professional world. Even humanities majors need to know how to write a CV. It might seem trivial to you, but not everyone who goes to university knows how to do these things.
#17 to #16 - IAMDIZZYONFANTA (02/07/2013) [-]
Nonono, here we get taught CVs and all that as an entire course, first in our GCSEs then again in our A-Levels. There is not a person above 16 that is unaware of how to write a CV. We are currently receiving 2 lectures a week on something that the entire country knows how to do by puberty. Other subjects of the lectures include how best to get a job that benefits the economy, the advantages of a consumer-driven society, and, I wish I was kidding, I really was - why we should have taken a vocational degree. They gave us a lecture on why we should have considered a vocational. Tell me they don't have an agenda.
User avatar #18 to #17 - allamericandude (02/07/2013) [-]
The CV's part isn't a huge deal--like I said, every university does that.

As for an "agenda"--I don't agree with them telling you you're in the wrong degree (if that's really what's happening), but the rest just sounds like economics. But it's really hard for me to say without experiencing it.

I mean, trying to convince you to get a vocational degree isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's just a bit odd that they're doing it when you're already in a degree program.
#20 to #18 - IAMDIZZYONFANTA (02/07/2013) [-]
Hmmm. It's hard to explain, but most of the humanities staff is feeling a bit vindicated by the whole ordeal. They've essentially had department of education representatives stroll in and tell them that their subjects are bad, and they should feel bad, and that they need to whip out enlightenment from beneath us and replace it with employability. Meanwhile, the students are feeling shat on beacause most of the students come to debate, at its most basic level, the human condition (which is exactly what Humanities means), and are then told that one of their modules has been replaced with "how to sell yourself 101."

We didn't come here to "prepare for the real world." You're ready for the "real world of work" at the end of your A-levels. **** , it used to be most people would get employment after their O-Levels. You could, and still can, begin your career there, and most bottom-level-entry career employers will take you, unless you want to become a doctor or a scientist or accountant, at which point you go to university.

That's what it's always been about here, in England. University wasn't treated as the end product of success. The idea of going to work immediately after your A levels was just as valid and respected as going to university, which could either be done because you wanted to expand your knowledge and become a more learned person (enlightenment) or because you wanted to do a more strenous, specialised career. It's not like the American system of College being the natural development on from high school, which seems to be what Cameron is trying to ape here. It's a different system, and trying to force employability information that everyone has already been given a thousand times over is both odd, a waste of time and a little insulting to the lecturers, since it's challenging the worth of their subject.
User avatar #21 to #20 - allamericandude (02/07/2013) [-]
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't college tuition heavily subsidized by the government in the UK? If so, it's natural that the government might want a "return on their investment". That's probably why all those shenanigans started.

I mean, we have humanities degrees here, too, but they don't have to deal with what you're describing. It might be because we pay more for our college here.

But that's a shot in the dark.
#25 to #21 - IAMDIZZYONFANTA (02/07/2013) [-]
Oh, and lowest course costs are around £9000, not including materials (such as fifty quid anthologies every semester!) and accommodation. That's about $15000.
#24 to #21 - IAMDIZZYONFANTA (02/07/2013) [-]
It was heavily subsidised. Not any more. Now it's only partially subsidised for the very, very poorest, and yet they're still trying to get "returns" on something that we, the people, are now paying for.
#12 to #11 - IAMDIZZYONFANTA (02/07/2013) [-]
Oh, and the exam for this semester is writing and preparing a CV within a time limit. Wut.
User avatar #35 to #8 - luidias (02/07/2013) [-]
sir. you, sir. you have the best profile picture, ever.
#110 - vigorion (02/07/2013) [-]
At least we can all take solace in that we all are happier than Kafka.
User avatar #175 - winsauceiswin (02/07/2013) [-]
as an engineering major....yes....i can confirm the pre grad quality of life =[
User avatar #83 - asongulol (02/07/2013) [-]
I will just stay home and raise swine and poultry. Everyone loves bacon and chicken wings anyway.
User avatar #85 to #83 - fishratsas (02/07/2013) [-]
I don't like bacon (I'm prepared for some red thumbs).
User avatar #88 to #85 - asongulol (02/07/2013) [-]
Maybe you like other pork parts and accessories.
User avatar #91 to #88 - fishratsas (02/07/2013) [-]
This is true.
#163 - nightlynutria (02/07/2013) [-]
HFW he has a degree on liberal arts
HFW he is on Forbes 400 list
HFW he is the owner of the baltimore ravens and he won the superbowl last sunday

too short didnt read? ‘It’s not the cards you’re dealt, it’s how you play them'
#181 to #163 - patricksuperstar (02/07/2013) [-]
**patricksuperstar rolled a random image posted in comment #30 at Penis = Skyrim ** YFW you realize his fortune was inherited from his parents
#185 to #181 - nightlynutria (02/07/2013) [-]
Naw, one year after graduating he had an idea and founded Allegis group with his cousing.
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#216 - sammyjankiis (02/07/2013) [-]
I am am in Liberal Arts right now :( Hope this isnt true.
I am am in Liberal Arts right now :( Hope this isnt true.
#234 to #216 - anon (02/07/2013) [-]
you poor thing have fun getting your food service degree
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