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#272 - derpypotato ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
#269 - sniffalot (02/07/2013) [-]
Look it's ****** up but if it's illegal don't bitch about getting caught.
Why wouldn't you wear a ******* seatbelt?
Pay your taxes. There is too many reasons for me to write that justify them.
User avatar #274 to #269 - derpypotato ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
i concur with you except for the taxes ting, some people cant just pay their taxes for different problems, the government instead of giving them a second chance to pay, they just evict the **** out of them leaving their asses on the street... this is **** up :/
User avatar #257 - imabser (02/07/2013) [-]
My grandma told me I only had to do two things.

Pay taxes and die.
User avatar #276 to #257 - bowservoltaire (02/07/2013) [-]
I love her already
#263 to #257 - byposted ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
what about purchasing useless "goods" and feeding into the free market?

your dad was a commie
User avatar #254 - lequigley (02/07/2013) [-]
thanks obama.
+1
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User avatar #247 - doodogger (02/07/2013) [-]
My dad doesn't want me to join the Army. He's just like the one in the comic who sent the letters. Wow.
User avatar #243 - organicglory ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
>Going to prison for smoking a joint

what is this i dont even
User avatar #261 to #243 - ninjasquirle (02/07/2013) [-]
Some states are hard as **** about pot, MD has really strict laws and its not unheard of for that too happen. Many southern states like Kentucky and Tennessee are even worse with up to a year in prison for a joint.
User avatar #265 to #261 - oneeyedman (02/07/2013) [-]
In Australia my step dad went to prison for having an unmeasurable amount of pot. I bet you're thinking that he had heaps on him for that, but no, what it actually means was that there was so little there that they couldn't measure it.

This happened before he was my step dad by the way.
User avatar #267 to #265 - ninjasquirle (02/07/2013) [-]
Yeah people on the West coast of the U.S. who grew up there and never traveled out never seem to understand just how risky pot can be in just about the rest of the world with most places giving jail for small amount, while in cali you can get away with so much there because everyone is relaxed.
#241 - anonymous (02/07/2013) [-]
the seatbelt thing is reasonable..
we may be saving idiots' lives, but we need SOMEONE to work the cash registers
#251 to #241 - autoxx ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
There are more than enough illegal immigrants to do that...
User avatar #264 to #251 - retributionthepimp (02/07/2013) [-]
I believe most jobs require having social security id..
#268 to #264 - byposted ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
amnesty stupid old ****** america ours aztland future america deal with that

obama, obama savior thank god for obama these stupid old repooblicans think that they can get us to vote for their ****** asses but their racist hate for us " ******** " will never be forgot

User avatar #232 - critique (02/07/2013) [-]
I come here for funny...

and find political junk...

Goddamnit...
User avatar #226 - sironion (02/07/2013) [-]
The family's a bunch of irresponsible ******** . Looks like they got what was coming for them.
#214 - unhumaneful (02/07/2013) [-]
>cant help pay for legal fees
>is clearly employed

did the author think that everyone in the armed forces just signed away a few years of their life to work without pay or something?
User avatar #217 to #214 - hydraetis (02/07/2013) [-]
>implying the common soldiers earn ********

there's a reason why there is a huge number of homeless veterans.
User avatar #229 to #217 - unhumaneful (02/07/2013) [-]
they're homeless because they don't have jobs. being a veteran is just a coincidence
and as far as the average 18-22 year old goes, the pay is pretty decent. here's theyre pay rate. www.militaryfactory.com/military_pay_scale.asp
go to E-2, thats enlisted rank 2, which most soldiers get automatically after 6 months. thats 1699.80, payed twice a month. that's 40K a year, not counting benefits.
User avatar #249 to #229 - doodogger (02/07/2013) [-]
******** , I don't have the exact numbers, but private first class gets around 19k a year. Not no 40k. Underpaid. But it's not about the money right?
User avatar #244 to #229 - oxYKellark (02/07/2013) [-]
I was an E-2 up until november. I dont know where you get 40K from thats a load of ass we get paid half that amount once a month.
User avatar #250 to #244 - unhumaneful (02/07/2013) [-]
Wait yeah I missed the frequency. I thought that was bi monthly, it is 20k, my bad. still, if you're straight out of high school, and with all the benefits and housing and all, the pay in and of itself isn't terrible.
I don't know if its worth it for the work they give you, though.
#248 to #244 - oxYKellark (02/07/2013) [-]
Sorry not half the amount the 1699.80 is correct but we get that amount of money in a one month period. Paid half of that amount every 15 days. Thats before taxes, any charities you donate to, SGLI coverage and if you send money back home.
#227 to #217 - nigglettt (02/07/2013) [-]
If you do a full 20 years in the military you won't ever have to worry about being homeless. Like blackandwhitegod said, the big issue is people go into combat arms which is great and the most essential job in the military arguably but then they get out early and have no real world skills. No one cares that you can clean your rifle faster or throw a grenade farther than anyone else in the office.
User avatar #253 to #227 - doodogger (02/07/2013) [-]
Why does everyone mention "when you get out of the military"? Can't you just be an 11b (infantry) and/or eventually become a Ranger and maybe get a master sergeant rank or something like that ever time, and then stay in the military until you are old or can't serve anymore? Then you can live your 40s or 50s retired on good money? As long as you spend very little of it and save it up while you serve?
#293 to #253 - nigglettt (02/08/2013) [-]
While you do have the option, it's going to not happen more often than it is. Most people get tired of the lifestyle and just decide to not reenlist after a certain point. Plus the military can put you out for any number of reasons. Besides those cases are irrelevant to the discussion.
User avatar #294 to #293 - doodogger (02/08/2013) [-]
So I shouldn't count on having a lifetime military career?
#295 to #294 - nigglettt (02/08/2013) [-]
I can't really say for sure. I would make sure to have something to fall back on just in case.
User avatar #296 to #295 - doodogger (02/09/2013) [-]
French Foreign Legion, either that or college benefits from military.
#221 to #217 - blackandwhitegod (02/07/2013) [-]
Wrong. The problem is a lot of people blow their money while they are in the service, or come out and aren't able to get a job because their only training is in Basket weaving and being a solider (while being in the military looks good on a resume, if your only skills have nothing to do with accounting you probably won't be getting a job in an accounting firm). I know a lot of veterans with quiet a bit of money stashed a way from their time in the military, there is even a local museum that is run by vets and it is a big place run entirely off of the funding of like 10 people. I also know people who joined the army because they were in massive debt from constantly being a dumbass with their money, partying / having a kid without a steady job / wanting a 50,000$ on a McDonalds budget.
#213 - anonymous (02/07/2013) [-]
I know people already did this.

First off, Taxes are important. If you don't want your **** taken away, do your taxes before buying that god damn platinum faberge brooch. It's what pays the teachers, it's what keeps countries working around, your ass isn't allowed to be that pebble that ***** up the system.

That chick needs to put on her seatbelt, why? because she's endangering herself AND more importantly the person they could potentially crash into. A flying human corpse isn't exactly like being hit by a pillow filled with soft foam.

Kid, smoke your joint in your home. You knew it was illegal, you make an ass out of yourself and your family. (They've already done that, so sure.)

I understand most people here have made responses to the problems, but I want to contribute too. :(
User avatar #212 - stallwallwriter (02/07/2013) [-]
Carrying a gun is a crime in the US? I thought you guys were all about that stuff.
#259 to #212 - aaronvan (02/07/2013) [-]
Well to carry a concealed gun without the proper permit is illegal (at least in my state which is CA)
#222 to #212 - nigglettt (02/07/2013) [-]
It's not necessarily illegal but it's slowly getting there. More and more limitations keep getting put on guns. Democrats are the problem here.



[Disclaimer] I am neither Republican nor a Democrat. I just like my guns.
#266 to #222 - brothergrimm (02/07/2013) [-]
that's why we do it..................................... so ******** at home can take away the rights we were protecting from the world
User avatar #298 to #266 - furyofthefallen (02/09/2013) [-]
And so " ******** " in countries like Iraq can't have those rights in the first place.
#291 to #266 - nigglettt (02/08/2013) [-]
Amen.
#206 - mexicoman ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
I do hate authoritarianism, victimless crimes like carrying a gun, smoking a 'bad' drug or not wearing a seatbelt should not be on the agenda of the government when there are so many other problems and ways to allocate resources.  The government should be there to help people, not serve as their mother always making sure they put the toilet seat down and turn out the lights. Its an accumulation of these liberty wrenching functions of the government that cheapen what American freedom means.
I do hate authoritarianism, victimless crimes like carrying a gun, smoking a 'bad' drug or not wearing a seatbelt should not be on the agenda of the government when there are so many other problems and ways to allocate resources. The government should be there to help people, not serve as their mother always making sure they put the toilet seat down and turn out the lights. Its an accumulation of these liberty wrenching functions of the government that cheapen what American freedom means.
#194 - XxXRoxasXxX (02/07/2013) [-]
I don't care what anyone thinks, as long as weed is still illegal it's 						*******					 ILLEGAL. I don't necessarily agree with it being illegal due to it being no worse than alcohol but until it is legal, it's your own fault if you get in trouble for it.
I don't care what anyone thinks, as long as weed is still illegal it's ******* ILLEGAL. I don't necessarily agree with it being illegal due to it being no worse than alcohol but until it is legal, it's your own fault if you get in trouble for it.
#208 to #194 - linkcic (02/07/2013) [-]
If no one complains things don't change.
User avatar #218 to #208 - hydraetis (02/07/2013) [-]
if everyone complains things still don't change. example: Occupy Wall Street. That really made those rich ******* think twice about what they were doing.

you want to bring about change, you gotta bring down the hammer of revolution. just look at France, they're basically the only white population in the world that knows how to get their government to do what the **** they want.
#230 to #218 - linkcic (02/07/2013) [-]
It simply depends on how well the group is represented. Effective public speaking and positive media representation. It's still better to try than to sit back and let nothing happen. While the ********* argument doesn't have any strong political leadership or group backing it, they have some but not in the forefront, then they really have to rely on making some noise. However, ********* legalization has a lot of positive media attention. Hollywood and other liberal media outlets are supportive of it. I believe that because of this and these small but numerous complaints nationwide giving the overall cause a strong voice that we will see a change in the laws over the next 10 years. It really hinges on the legalizations in Colorado and Washington being successful though.
User avatar #235 to #230 - hydraetis (02/07/2013) [-]
well if we're going to the legalization of weed,

going out like a tard and smoking it is definitely not a smart way to get that rule to change. " **** da police" may be a funny thing on the internet but if you act like that in real life you're just being an idiot.
#239 to #235 - linkcic (02/07/2013) [-]
Why is that a retarded thing to do? I believe that was how the civil rights movement got it's momentum. In fact I think that having a large amount of supporters, smokers and nonsmokers, organizing a peaceful protest in which they openly smoke ********* in public. It all depends on how well the protest goes of course, as some civil rights protests went better than others, but as long as the message that ********* does not in fact create sex crazed and criminalistic neanderthals then the message gets out.
User avatar #204 to #194 - Decept ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
**** you
#209 to #204 - XxXRoxasXxX (02/07/2013) [-]
You seem angry. What's on your mind, sport?
User avatar #210 to #209 - Decept ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
**** you
#216 to #210 - XxXRoxasXxX (02/07/2013) [-]
Alrighty then
Alrighty then
User avatar #193 - oottovann (02/07/2013) [-]
"We are so proud of you for going over there to fight for our freedom"

In Iraq...?

Are.

You.

******* .

Kidding.

Me.
User avatar #202 to #193 - blarglestheclown (02/07/2013) [-]
Because every military service man has a choice about their deployment?
User avatar #203 to #202 - oottovann (02/07/2013) [-]
Their ******* choice to join.
User avatar #205 to #203 - blarglestheclown (02/07/2013) [-]
Because having a family tradition of service or needing[small][small] money to live is terrible right?
User avatar #207 to #205 - oottovann (02/07/2013) [-]
No, it's the easy way out.

Can't afford college? need a job?

Join the army.
#262 to #207 - uvqdkh (02/07/2013) [-]
>The easy way out
Yes, being in the military is so easy. Constantly fearing death, getting shot at, not knowing whether you'll ever see your family again. Yeah, that's so easy.
But yes, the military does provide fantastic educational opportunities. Some of the top colleges in the nation have ROTC programs allowing people to who otherwise wouldn't be able to attend to better themselves and their future. Post-military those men have an education and work experience: everything required to get a good job. Clearly you're a giant douche though, so I won't try to change your mind.
#238 to #207 - anonymous (02/07/2013) [-]
What about officers in the military? Don't generalize.
User avatar #215 to #207 - blarglestheclown (02/07/2013) [-]
Its funny you call Military the easy way out.
More of a means to an end.

Im not saying all wars we've been in are right or anything, but you cant be mad at the soldiers that is just retarded.
User avatar #219 to #215 - hydraetis (02/07/2013) [-]
I agree. Be mad at the government for sending them over there for nothing.
User avatar #237 to #219 - badgerclan (02/07/2013) [-]
I don't understand that argument. Be mad at the government for going into a war the public was in favor of? For doing what it's people wanted? I don't know what you thought about the war when it started, but if you were in favor of it and the government didn't go wouldn't you be just as mad? It was a stupid war, but one that the people demanded. Be mad for staying in the war once we realized that it was stupid.

And don't worship the people that signed up to go to fight in a war after we determined that it was a stupid war. I know that isn't what you said, but it's related and it bugs me when people get all proud of people who, once it has become obvious that the war we're fighting is completely pointless and needs to end, decide to go sign up to fight in that war and get absolutely worshiped for doing something bad.
User avatar #242 to #237 - hydraetis (02/07/2013) [-]
it's the government's fault for continuing the war long after everyone stopped caring about it and wanted the troops to come back home, and it's not like the soldiers had a choice when it came to being sent to die over there (mostly talking about the ones that were sent in the beginning)
User avatar #252 to #242 - badgerclan (02/07/2013) [-]
>It's the government's fault for continuing the war long after everyone stopped caring
That would be why I said, in the comment that you just replied to: "Be mad for staying in the war once we realized that it was stupid."

>it's not like the soldiers had a choice when it came to being sent to die over there (mostly talking about the ones that were sent in the beginning)

I have no ill feelings toward the ones who were already in service or joined shortly after the war started. My problem is with worshiping the ones who decided to join and get all the mindless admiration after we determined that the war was bad and we shouldn't be fighting it, which is why I said: "it bugs me when people get all proud of people who, once it has become obvious that the war we're fighting is completely pointless and needs to end, decide to go sign up to fight in that war and get absolutely worshiped for doing something bad."
User avatar #224 to #219 - blarglestheclown (02/07/2013) [-]
in a nut shell
#198 to #193 - anonymous (02/07/2013) [-]
I agree.

I ******* hate it when they say soldiers fight for our freedom. They fought for our freedom in the Revolutionary and Civil wars.
User avatar #201 to #198 - oottovann (02/07/2013) [-]
Right now we're there to

"Spread democracy in Iraq"

WE'RE "FIGHTING" FOR THEIR FREEDOM

It's like I kick in my neighbor's door, kill his wife and kids, and tell him that he needs to start living like I do because his way of life is wrong.
#191 - andredeking (02/07/2013) [-]
on a light, yet serious note.

things are getting more and more ****** up as we live....

surely this wasn't what i had in mind when i was 5 years old and I truly believed like every boy and girl, that i could be anything......life is a bitch.....
User avatar #185 - sphinxe (02/07/2013) [-]
1. Taxes, you have to pay them, end of. If you cannot afford them you get help, if you can but there is no money you should rethink your outgoings. Pay them before you buy anything else.

2. Family business, not much to say really. Clear it out and find another place? If you sacrifice taxes for a family business then there are issues, because businesses run by one person can turn out to be extremely expensive. May be heart-rending seeing it go, but if you can't afford it you shouldn't keep it.

3. If you're not allowed to carry a gun, then don't ******* do it. I know you'd feel much safer if you did have or or I don't know, maybe you wouldn't because you'd be expecting something to happen. Carry pepper spray or a taser or something.

4. Where I live you get a warning for carrying/smoking pot. If you're stupid enough to do it again and again because you think it should be legal it means you aren't exempt from the law. Law is law and if you break it you go to prison.

5. If you don't wear a seatbelt you're an absolute top class idiot, just waiting for a Darwin award at any moment. I feel weird without having a seatbelt on, and if you don't have one the flipping force you go through the windscreen in a collision is phenomenal. Anyone who doesn't wear one should rightfully have their ass nailed.

6. Seems like a retarded family, especially guilt tripping their kid and telling him all of this while he's fighting a war.

Stupid comic.
User avatar #211 to #185 - mexicoman ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
I will be the one to decide if I wear a seatbelt. You are not my mother, and if I want to be a ******* retard I get to do it. This is America, where the ideals of freedom are Bolstered and not Dampened.
User avatar #225 to #211 - sphinxe (02/07/2013) [-]
Alright then don't wear one. No I'm not your mother but isn't it common sense?
User avatar #231 to #225 - mexicoman ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
Yes it is common sense. Only short sighted idiots do not wear their seatbelts. But I am not willing to use the government and our legal system to **** With idiots when there are bigger issues and better ways to spend our energy and money.
User avatar #236 to #231 - sphinxe (02/07/2013) [-]
That's true. If they crash without one it's their fault, I thought you were defending the right not to wear a seatbelt. Sorry :)
User avatar #199 to #185 - fourtwentt (02/07/2013) [-]
what difference does it make to you if i dont wear a seatbelt in my car, the law was passed so insurance companies wouldnt have to pay for any injuries that resulted from not wearing a seatbelt. in fact my car has a feature that makes the clock blink if i get into a crash without my belt on, so the insurance company will know that i didnt have it on.
User avatar #228 to #199 - sphinxe (02/07/2013) [-]
And if you do have it on, your insurance will cover it right? So isn't it better to just wear it?
User avatar #233 to #228 - fourtwentt (02/07/2013) [-]
i only wear a belt on highways, if i fly thru my windshield driving around the city (going <25mph) then i probably deserved it

but the point is that its about personal choice, too many laws in america are in place to protect corporations money
#197 to #185 - dedaluminus (02/07/2013) [-]
1: Yeah, right enough. Have to pay taxes, even if the money is being wasted at an astounding rate.

2: The city condemning properties to build new developments is ******** , and disrupts everything. Do you have any idea what it takes to move a family business?

3: The right of a citizen to bear arms is a constitutional right. End of story. Also, I've used both pepper spray and a taser, as a security guard, and they don't stop everyone. Bullets are much more effective.

4: Pot should be legal. Breaking the law and getting caught should land you in prison, though.

5: What business is it of yours if someone wears their seatbelt or not? If I get into a wreck, and die because I'm not wearing a seatbelt, then that's my issue, not yours. Butt out.

6: It's a political comic, dumbass.
#270 to #197 - brothergrimm (02/07/2013) [-]
couldn't have said it better myself
User avatar #234 to #197 - sphinxe (02/07/2013) [-]
If there are massive back taxes, then maybe the family business isn't a good financial plan? It takes massive upheaval just to move house let a lone a business I know.

It's definitely a right to carry a gun, but the law varies like mad between states. Best to get a permit?

And I know it's not my business whether someone wears one or not, and it's not my issue but what about just plain common sense? There's no good reason why you shouldn't wear one.

And I dunno, some political comics are great. This one, not so much.
User avatar #181 - bornlikethis (02/07/2013) [-]
pay your taxes, its not hard. Emminent domain is rare but yes its wrong. Weed should be legal, every society has its problems. no one goes to court for a $10 seat-belt violation, and wear your ******* seat-belt.
#173 - anonymous (02/07/2013) [-]
So the artist wants the families of soldiers to get special treatment?
User avatar #172 - thatonetyler (02/07/2013) [-]
So i got a problem with this. Im in the Army, and the thing that bugs me with this comic is why are the parents being so dependent on their son, I don't think anyone would tell their kid hey we lost our house and stuff, I know you cant help but were going to bring it up any way. There is just way to many flaws in this comic that it annoys me.
User avatar #255 to #172 - oxYKellark (02/07/2013) [-]
What unit?
User avatar #283 to #255 - thatonetyler (02/08/2013) [-]
you?
User avatar #282 to #255 - thatonetyler (02/08/2013) [-]
811th Ordnance company 3rd Platoon
User avatar #285 to #282 - oxYKellark (02/08/2013) [-]
MIARNG State Med Command
User avatar #287 to #285 - thatonetyler (02/08/2013) [-]
ah nice, im a ammunition specialist, 89 Bravo, the only reason i picked it, was because im doing split op and it was really the only interesting MOS to choose from
User avatar #289 to #287 - oxYKellark (02/08/2013) [-]
Cool, 68W Combat Medic here. Yeah it was either Infantry or Medic so I figured id atleast learn something useful haha.
User avatar #299 to #289 - thatonetyler (02/10/2013) [-]
how is that going? and i want to go infantry after highschool and college
User avatar #301 to #299 - oxYKellark (02/10/2013) [-]
How are you "in the Army" if you havent graduated highschool?
User avatar #302 to #301 - thatonetyler (02/10/2013) [-]
split ops, have you not heard of that? if you're a junior in highschool, you can join the reserves and go to your drills, and then when it comes summer time you get shipped to basic training, then you come back with about one week to relax and then school starts. then you do your senior year and then when thats over you go to AIT right after your senior year is over.
User avatar #303 to #302 - oxYKellark (02/10/2013) [-]
Yes i've heard of it, you are not an Enlisted Soldier unitl you graduate AIT and are assigned to a unit. Where did you go to basic?
User avatar #304 to #303 - thatonetyler (02/10/2013) [-]
Not necessarily, you get all the benefit sthat you all get and everything else i just dont have my schooling for my job, and im already in a unit for my MOS, and i go to Fort Jackson
User avatar #305 to #304 - oxYKellark (02/10/2013) [-]
Yes necessarily, i went to 7 months of RSP before i shiped to basic sure i got paid but i was not deploying, working on any actual skill or apart of a recognized unit. That is not the military thats a program, like you are in now. Please do not openly represent the Army as a whole if you are not apart of it.
User avatar #306 to #305 - thatonetyler (02/10/2013) [-]
Well if i am being told by my Captain,2nd LT, and multiple sergeants in my unit that tell me that i am officially in the army after basic, then i will go by what they say. What rank are you jw
User avatar #307 to #306 - oxYKellark (02/10/2013) [-]
Wait till you get to basic drill sgt's make you feel otherwise. E-4
User avatar #286 to #285 - command (02/08/2013) [-]
hi
User avatar #288 to #286 - oxYKellark (02/08/2013) [-]
Oh lol
User avatar #175 to #172 - winsauceiswin (02/07/2013) [-]
the over all point of the comic is that:
one: men and women not at home are fighting a pointless war
two: those who are at home are loosing their liberties

it's not a solid focus on the soldier, the letter reading is simply a means of conveyance of the message and the soldier himself is a symbol for all soldiers fighting for or who have fought for our liberties which, aforementioned, are being taken away.

don't be too offended as it wasn't actually an attack on the soldier or soldiers themselves :)
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