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User avatar #118 - aerosmithabc (02/07/2013) [-]
So if you're in the army, your family shouldn't be arrested for doing illegal things?
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User avatar #169 to #137 - RandomAnonGuy (02/07/2013) [-]
So one would assume she didn't have a license
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#135 - darthacerbus (02/07/2013) [-]
>your child is a soldier   
>soldiers get paid by the government   
>government gets money from taxes   
>LET'S NOT PAY OUR TAXES
>your child is a soldier
>soldiers get paid by the government
>government gets money from taxes
>LET'S NOT PAY OUR TAXES
User avatar #192 to #135 - billysmall (02/07/2013) [-]
This reminds me of something a master sgt told me at meps.

He was explaining to me how some bitch was chewing him out for being in the army and how he was a murderer and a savage. "You are going to hell bla bla bla asshole" that kind of stuff. He calmly thanked her for paying for all his things, his house, his car, his motorcycle, the ammunition, the rifle he used, his kevlar ect.

she went silent and he told her to have a nice day and walked off.
#28 - antistar (02/06/2013) [-]
Though you all can fight about gun/pot laws, the fact that the sister didn't wear a seatbelt is her own damn fault. Also, not paying taxes is generally a very bad idea.

>supposed to feel sympathy for a family with a collective IQ of 57
#62 to #28 - anon (02/07/2013) [-]
In NY you can't buy a >16o ounce soda. Sure if someone got busted for selling large drinks some internet fag could always say, "Durrr it's illegal and it's your own damn fault for selling large soda." The point was that it's stupid that it is illegal.

Law banning large soda=less freedom
Law banning driving without a seat belt=less freedom.
#75 to #62 - IAMDIZZYONFANTA (02/07/2013) [-]
Yeah, but that law isn't in place to protect someone's life. And not just their life, either. Have you seen the effects of a body projected out of the windscreen can have on the people driving the opposite car in a head-on collision? Not pretty.
User avatar #258 to #28 - IncarceratedNinja (02/07/2013) [-]
0is...is that selena gomez D:
#42 to #28 - ruinsage (02/06/2013) [-]
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User avatar #1 - togadflooper (02/06/2013) [-]
not paying taxes, owning illegal guns, doing illegal drugs, violating a seatbelt law, i find it hard to feel bad for a family that seems just plain retarded

aaaaaaand hello red thumbs
#240 to #1 - anon (02/07/2013) [-]
Guys! The government totally has our best interest in mind! All of the laws they pass have to be right! There is no such thing as an unjust law! It's just for them to take my money so they can give Jamal more months on welfare since he dropped out of school and is a failure, it's just for them to take self-defense measures away from me, it's just for them to tell me what I can and cannot put in my body, and it's just for them to force me to be safe!



**** . You.
So hard in the ass.

Seriously.
I hope you bleed to death from anal tearing.
And your feces gets in the wound, getting all infected and **** .
User avatar #245 to #240 - togadflooper (02/07/2013) [-]
i never said the laws were perfect, i just think if you break laws, you can expect legal repercusions
User avatar #246 to #1 - alcatronz (02/07/2013) [-]
You spelled green wrong.
User avatar #2 to #1 - edgecution (02/06/2013) [-]
i agree that not paying taxes and illegally owning/carrying a gun are both retarded, but things that you do that have no bearing on others such as doing drugs or not wearing a seatbelt are just ridiculous to outlaw
#3 to #2 - armflailingtubeman (02/06/2013) [-]
I thought the seat belt laws didn't make sense either but it kinda does when you take into consideration the cost to the government if you get killed or hurt badly and need medical attention. It's such a small thing that saves lives, there is no reason not to use one either.
I thought the seat belt laws didn't make sense either but it kinda does when you take into consideration the cost to the government if you get killed or hurt badly and need medical attention. It's such a small thing that saves lives, there is no reason not to use one either.
User avatar #5 to #1 - mynameisgeorge (02/06/2013) [-]
All of this plus the fact that after serving a 4 year active duty deployment, the military usually provides you with a house, a car and other necessities.
User avatar #67 to #1 - rhetoricalfunny (02/07/2013) [-]
Oh shut the **** up and quit trying to be a stupid contrarian
User avatar #19 to #1 - HUH (02/06/2013) [-]
"aaaaaaand hello red thumbs"

nope. we like you.
#14 to #1 - anon (02/06/2013) [-]
Just because a law exists doesnt mean its a good law. It seems you are of the mindset that a law is a law and must be abided no matter what.

Thats how a lot of **** , baaaaad **** , started. When people emotionally detatched themselves under the idea of of "i have to because i am told so" and no other reason.
#20 to #14 - wheresthefudge (02/06/2013) [-]
The problem is, you can't just decide which laws you do and not follow.    
If you disagree with a law, there's legal recourse for that.
The problem is, you can't just decide which laws you do and not follow.
If you disagree with a law, there's legal recourse for that.
#108 - oxYKellark (02/07/2013) [-]
Pay taxes, dont smoke week, wear your seatbelt, own a permit for a fire arm. These are in no way freedoms that we are defending by deploying to Afgahnistan or Iraq. This is an idiotic comic relating Soldiers or Marines or who ever it is depicted in it to whiney people who complain every time the LAW is enforced that their "rights" are being taken away.
#195 to #108 - anon (02/07/2013) [-]
Your forgot "if the gubment wants to build a stadium on your property, let them, it's their right"
#220 to #195 - oxYKellark (02/07/2013) [-]
It is absolutly completely illegal to do such a thing and if the City deems something like that completely nessecary they will reimburse you the amount your house is worth. This kind of thing happened alot when highways were first being built.
It is absolutly completely illegal to do such a thing and if the City deems something like that completely nessecary they will reimburse you the amount your house is worth. This kind of thing happened alot when highways were first being built.
User avatar #51 - Happytreefriend (02/07/2013) [-]
since when was "operation iraqi freedom" fighting for our freedom?

thats what i never understood when people say "fighting for our freedom"
#55 to #51 - anon (02/07/2013) [-]
"25: Occupy the moral high ground: Righteousness
The cause you are fighting for must seem more just than the enemy's. Questioning their
motives and making enemies appear evil can narrow their base of support and room to
maneuver. When you come under moral attack from a clever enemy, don't whine or get angry--
fight fire with fire."

Straight from "THE 33 STRATEGIES OF WAR"
#46 - anon (02/07/2013) [-]
So now we are angry at the government for legally disciplining lawbreakers? Having a son in the military doesn't mean the law doesn't apply to you. You have liberties, but when you overstep them and break the law you are subject to the consequences.

Not to mention that a concealed firearm, marijuana possession, and a seatbelt violation are all state laws. The federal government doesn't have laws about seatbelts, why the **** would they? Is this guy angry at the feds or at the state, or is he just a ******* idiot?
User avatar #52 to #46 - bloodspider (02/07/2013) [-]
I would say, ******* idiot.
#241 - anon (02/07/2013) [-]
the seatbelt thing is reasonable..
we may be saving idiots' lives, but we need SOMEONE to work the cash registers
#251 to #241 - autoxx (02/07/2013) [-]
There are more than enough illegal immigrants to do that...
User avatar #264 to #251 - retributionthepimp (02/07/2013) [-]
I believe most jobs require having social security id..
#268 to #264 - byposted (02/07/2013) [-]
amnesty stupid old gringo america ours aztland future america deal with that

obama, obama savior thank god for obama these stupid old repooblicans think that they can get us to vote for their gringo asses but their racist hate for us "wetbacks" will never be forgot

#214 - unhumaneful (02/07/2013) [-]
>cant help pay for legal fees
>is clearly employed

did the author think that everyone in the armed forces just signed away a few years of their life to work without pay or something?
User avatar #217 to #214 - hydraetis (02/07/2013) [-]
>implying the common soldiers earn ********

there's a reason why there is a huge number of homeless veterans.
#227 to #217 - nigglettt (02/07/2013) [-]
If you do a full 20 years in the military you won't ever have to worry about being homeless. Like blackandwhitegod said, the big issue is people go into combat arms which is great and the most essential job in the military arguably but then they get out early and have no real world skills. No one cares that you can clean your rifle faster or throw a grenade farther than anyone else in the office.
User avatar #253 to #227 - doodogger (02/07/2013) [-]
Why does everyone mention "when you get out of the military"? Can't you just be an 11b (infantry) and/or eventually become a Ranger and maybe get a master sergeant rank or something like that ever time, and then stay in the military until you are old or can't serve anymore? Then you can live your 40s or 50s retired on good money? As long as you spend very little of it and save it up while you serve?
#293 to #253 - nigglettt (02/08/2013) [-]
While you do have the option, it's going to not happen more often than it is. Most people get tired of the lifestyle and just decide to not reenlist after a certain point. Plus the military can put you out for any number of reasons. Besides those cases are irrelevant to the discussion.
User avatar #294 to #293 - doodogger (02/08/2013) [-]
So I shouldn't count on having a lifetime military career?
#295 to #294 - nigglettt (02/08/2013) [-]
I can't really say for sure. I would make sure to have something to fall back on just in case.
User avatar #296 to #295 - doodogger (02/09/2013) [-]
French Foreign Legion, either that or college benefits from military.
#221 to #217 - blackandwhitegod (02/07/2013) [-]
Wrong. The problem is a lot of people blow their money while they are in the service, or come out and aren't able to get a job because their only training is in Basket weaving and being a solider (while being in the military looks good on a resume, if your only skills have nothing to do with accounting you probably won't be getting a job in an accounting firm). I know a lot of veterans with quiet a bit of money stashed a way from their time in the military, there is even a local museum that is run by vets and it is a big place run entirely off of the funding of like 10 people. I also know people who joined the army because they were in massive debt from constantly being a dumbass with their money, partying / having a kid without a steady job / wanting a 50,000$ on a McDonalds budget.
User avatar #229 to #217 - unhumaneful (02/07/2013) [-]
they're homeless because they don't have jobs. being a veteran is just a coincidence
and as far as the average 18-22 year old goes, the pay is pretty decent. here's theyre pay rate. www.militaryfactory.com/military_pay_scale.asp
go to E-2, thats enlisted rank 2, which most soldiers get automatically after 6 months. thats 1699.80, payed twice a month. that's 40K a year, not counting benefits.
User avatar #249 to #229 - doodogger (02/07/2013) [-]
******** , I don't have the exact numbers, but private first class gets around 19k a year. Not no 40k. Underpaid. But it's not about the money right?
User avatar #244 to #229 - oxYKellark (02/07/2013) [-]
I was an E-2 up until november. I dont know where you get 40K from thats a load of ass we get paid half that amount once a month.
#248 to #244 - oxYKellark (02/07/2013) [-]
Sorry not half the amount the 1699.80 is correct but we get that amount of money in a one month period. Paid half of that amount every 15 days. Thats before taxes, any charities you donate to, SGLI coverage and if you send money back home.
User avatar #250 to #244 - unhumaneful (02/07/2013) [-]
Wait yeah I missed the frequency. I thought that was bi monthly, it is 20k, my bad. still, if you're straight out of high school, and with all the benefits and housing and all, the pay in and of itself isn't terrible.
I don't know if its worth it for the work they give you, though.
#213 - anon (02/07/2013) [-]
I know people already did this.

First off, Taxes are important. If you don't want your **** taken away, do your taxes before buying that god damn platinum faberge brooch. It's what pays the teachers, it's what keeps countries working around, your ass isn't allowed to be that pebble that ***** up the system.

That chick needs to put on her seatbelt, why? because she's endangering herself AND more importantly the person they could potentially crash into. A flying human corpse isn't exactly like being hit by a pillow filled with soft foam.

Kid, smoke your joint in your home. You knew it was illegal, you make an ass out of yourself and your family. (They've already done that, so sure.)

I understand most people here have made responses to the problems, but I want to contribute too. :(
User avatar #61 - alfjnn ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
If you drive without a seat-belt, you ******* deserve to go to court. It's there for a reason. Please tell me you people aren't this dumb.

No one goes to prison for smoking a joint.
That doesn't happen.
Police don't ******* break down your door when you smoke weed to drag you off to jail.
You need to have quite a bit on you for charges to happen, like intent to sell and all.
Honestly, if you smoke in your own house, and leave your pot at home, nothing bad will happen. You have to be ******* retarded to get arrested for smoking one joint.

Back taxes:
Listen. Being a Citizen in America, you generally agree to paying taxes.
I'm not saying tax laws are fair, or make sense.
But Back Taxes shouldn't be that ******* hard to pay off when you have a two people with jobs, and a son in the army.

On a personal note,
I'm an immigrant to America. I'm from Yugoslavia, I came here when I was 13 (During the war)
I'm 19 Now.
I love America, I appreciate being here every single day. Sure. It could be 1000x better. But it's not, yet this is a country, where almost anyone can do something about it, but the will, that's up to you.

Americans shouldn't be so hateful of their own country, to me it seems ******* dumb, and spoiled.

The Average American does not understand what it means to be free, because they've never been oppressed, and I understand this, I understand why Americans are so ungrateful to the point where they hate their government. But that's another great thing about america, you can leave and renounce your citizenship any time you want.

I for one, Love America.

Sorry for somewhat ranting everyone, have a lovely day!
User avatar #101 to #61 - darthtomale ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
yes people do go to jail for smoking a joint if it

1. violates their parole
2. the police officer has a personal vendetta
3. they refuse to give out information as to where they got it
User avatar #126 to #101 - alfjnn ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
>Parole.
Guy. You shouldn't be on Parole in the first place.

Police Officer has a Personal Vendetta.
Simply put, no. Posession/use is not a felony, it's a misdemeanor.

And lastly, thisis only if you're suspected of dealing.
User avatar #128 to #126 - darthtomale ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
Lets say someone is on parole for a drug related charge. and you can be arrested for a misdemeanor.

User avatar #131 to #128 - alfjnn ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
But you don't go to prison, which is my point all along.

Parole for a drug related charge.
Uhh.
Like I said.
You don't go to prison, parole implies prison.

I fail to see your point bro, sadly enough.

But here is mine:
10/10 times, you wont get thrown in prison for smoking pot, people get thrown in prison for driving under the influence, dealing, and selling, and other related crimes, but not for just lighting up.
User avatar #140 to #131 - darthtomale ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
also, the right to not be harassed by police officers is something that should be protected. i take issue with the fact that you seem to believe that just because you dont go to prison it all ok
User avatar #141 to #140 - alfjnn ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
Well no ******* **** we have different views.
You live in Texas, your experiences with police are vastly different than mine, I live in New York.
Cops here don't care at all.

Our Police have also been Dearmed, (Sort of. Can only carry around pistols with 7 rounds)
User avatar #146 to #141 - darthtomale ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
my dad works for the county where i live and he's allowed to carry a rifle if he chooses. my point is that in america (texas being in america) it is entirely possible to not only be consistently harassed but also imprisoned for just recreational pot smoking.
User avatar #138 to #131 - darthtomale ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
I live in texas. I know first hand that you do go to prison for smoking pot. This happens all the time.
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User avatar #154 to #147 - alfjnn ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
Yes and No. (You're thinking Balkanization of Yugoslavia, with Bosnia & Croatia)
When I say Yugo, I mean Serbia & Montenegro. When I say the war, I mean the Kosovo Conflict.

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User avatar #163 to #159 - alfjnn ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
Was it Njekodjudjevdanavic?
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User avatar #165 to #164 - alfjnn ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
Oh man.
I was only joking too.

Man dude, you woulda been so lucky.
It's hard to find last names that are easy to pronounce

Oh god
And the 20 different accents.
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User avatar #150 to #61 - durkadurka ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
The great thing about our nation is that our whining and complaining is what keeps the government in check and is why this is still the "land of the free."

The cartoon is a massive exaggeration, but you can derive a valid point from it. In small ways, the government is infringing upon our freedoms (even if those infringements do seem trivial). The reason why Americans get so freaked out over these infringements is because if lose freedoms are taken, more are next in line.

Even though we have plenty of issues, I still love this country. I'll complain and debate like the rest, but only with the intent of maintaining/improving our personal liberties.
User avatar #155 to #150 - alfjnn ONLINE (02/07/2013) [-]
Agreed on all accounts my ***** .
#125 to #61 - ihateducksauce (02/07/2013) [-]
^ this guy.
#45 - mitchimusk (02/07/2013) [-]
Why the **** is it so hard to reach over and put a seatbelt on? It literally takes 5 seconds
User avatar #53 to #45 - bloodspider (02/07/2013) [-]
Dude when I drive it feels weird not wearing a seat belt.
#191 - andredeking (02/07/2013) [-]
on a light, yet serious note.

things are getting more and more ****** up as we live....

surely this wasn't what i had in mind when i was 5 years old and I truly believed like every boy and girl, that i could be anything......life is a bitch.....
#82 - anon (02/07/2013) [-]
This is the dumbest **** i've seen on funnyjunk for a while...
1. They didn't pay their ******* taxes, what do they expect? To live in their home for free just because their son is in the army? No. They still need to pay their damn taxes just like everyone else. Same thing with the business. It obviously has not been doing well, how is that the city's fault? They couldn't afford to keep it open any longer, they weren't making enough profit.
2. If it's illegal to carry a gun in that city then she should have been obeying the law. It's her fault for breaking the law, she deserves to be arrested. The brother and sister both broke the law as well. I don't see why this comic is complaining about that.
#90 to #82 - Usualyanon (02/07/2013) [-]
Log in and say that faggot!
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#18 - Temari (02/06/2013) [-]
Okay but you need to follow rules!   
   
If smoking pot is illegal, DON'T DO IT! It's bad for you anyway.    
If guns are illegal (esp. conceal carry) DON'T CARRY THEM! Some people would say that guns are dangerous. I kind of agree.   
If wearing a seatbelt is the law, WEAR A 			*******		 SEATBELT! They make cars a lot safer anyway.   
If you have to pay taxes, PAY TAXES! Yes, times get hard, money gets tight, but seriously.   
   
This family seems 			******		 up.    
No joke.    
   
inb4 red thumbs cause of opinions
Okay but you need to follow rules!

If smoking pot is illegal, DON'T DO IT! It's bad for you anyway.
If guns are illegal (esp. conceal carry) DON'T CARRY THEM! Some people would say that guns are dangerous. I kind of agree.
If wearing a seatbelt is the law, WEAR A ******* SEATBELT! They make cars a lot safer anyway.
If you have to pay taxes, PAY TAXES! Yes, times get hard, money gets tight, but seriously.

This family seems ****** up.
No joke.

inb4 red thumbs cause of opinions
User avatar #27 to #18 - alalalalal (02/06/2013) [-]
I love how there are legal ways of doing all those things mentioned yet because people love to be dumb they get arrested. I.E. gun permit "medicinal" Marry wanna ect.
User avatar #58 to #18 - arsenymous (02/07/2013) [-]
I'm just going to assume you are trolling.
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#24 to #18 - anon (02/06/2013) [-]
pot is not bad for you...
#30 to #24 - captnpl (02/06/2013) [-]
Yeah it is, it makes you go to prison.
User avatar #38 to #24 - recoveryone ONLINE (02/06/2013) [-]
The side effect of getting arrested is pretty bad.
#36 to #24 - Kennyalways (02/06/2013) [-]
http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/effects.-Lya.htm and yes it is. dont blindly assume something before looking it up
User avatar #183 to #36 - Faz (02/07/2013) [-]
I love how you say "dont blindly assume something before looking it up" and then you blindly believe something because its written on a website, although yes the things said on that site are true those things only happen with over use of marijuana, if you smoke it once a week its actually healthy for you because of the large list of medical benefits. I would just like to write a list. Cramping, Diarrhea, Constipation, Intestinal gas, Intestinal blockage, these are all side effects of too much fruit or vegetables. Everything if over used is bad.
User avatar #281 to #183 - Kennyalways (02/07/2013) [-]
>telling me not to assume things
>say they're correct in the next sentence
wat?
User avatar #60 to #36 - themongoose (02/07/2013) [-]
I've never smoked weed, yet I know that using that article to support the idea that cannabis is harmful is a bad idea. Yes, I understand that it's not necessarily good for the body, but it is good for some and not bad for others, especially in short term. Google this and read the article: PMC1277837


User avatar #161 to #60 - Kennyalways (02/07/2013) [-]
It may not have been but the point is to not just blindly say something is good for you when there has been research proving otherwise
User avatar #35 to #24 - Kennyalways (02/06/2013) [-]
doesnt matter its still illegal
User avatar #41 to #18 - gormless (02/06/2013) [-]
You're just saying that those things are illegal. The problem is precisely that they are illegal.

Smoking pot is equally or more likely less dangerous than alcohol, but according to the legal system of some (most) states it's an offense that can land you in prison for a very long time.

The gun issue is an ongoing debate that I don't want to get involved in, but still, the point is that the author believes it should be legal but it's not, therefore it's a removal of liberty.

Wearing a seatbelt only aids in the safety of oneself, for one, and for two it can be easy to forget to put it on, especially when you're in a hurry like people so often are.

As for paying taxes, as you mentioned times do get hard, but when it's the choice between feeding your family and funding a ******** war/ feeding other families/ building a bridge in a city 200 miles away from you/ etc, choosing your own family is the only thing anybody would choose.

#33 to #18 - anon (02/06/2013) [-]
inb4 pot is not bad
Yes, it has medicinal uses and has been proven to have way less risks then, let's say alchohol or tobacco. Doesn't mean that there aren't risks though, a big one being that it's a gateway drug.
User avatar #180 to #33 - Faz (02/07/2013) [-]
I will just explain a few things, in moderation marijuana is healthy (because of all the medical benefits) the risks of marijuana come from smoking too much of it, too much of anything is bad for you, hell even too much fruit is bad for you. Also for marijuana being a gateway drug thats purely because to buy marijuana you need to go to a dealer, dealers will most likely have other drugs that they are selling so that whole environment is pretty much a trap and so if marijuana was sold at special shops purely for marijuana then it being a gate way drug would no longer be an argument, also painkillers and other legal drugs are actually far more of a gateway drug than marijuana but they stay legal because of the pharmaceutical companies.
User avatar #44 - charagrin (02/07/2013) [-]
Logically, weed IS bad for you. It is a foreign substance entering your body after all, so there has to be SOME effects. Not saying it is as bad or worse then booze or tobacco, just that there is SOMETHING there.
#69 to #44 - IAMDIZZYONFANTA (02/07/2013) [-]
Food is a foreign substance entering your body.

But I'm not here to nitpick. You're right, if you do weed like most people do, that is, mixed with tobacco into a joint, you get the same **** you get from smoking cigs. Lung cancer, tar stains, breathing difficulty, and all that fun business. If you vaporise it, well, no long-term side effects have been discovered beyond some anecdotal cases of paranoia. No causal link has been established. It does cause mild dizziness and disorientation while you're still on the high, however, which can be dangerous in certain environments.

Inb4 someone saying I'm a braindead stoner trying to defend my drug of choice. I'm not, my interest in it mostly legal. I'd rather not see people get marks on their criminal record for enjoying something less dangerous and damaging to society than alcohol.
User avatar #80 to #69 - charagrin (02/07/2013) [-]
Food and drink are technically foreign substances, but ones the body was designed to intake within reasonable amounts. I really just want a fair unbiased study from somewhere that does not lean one way or the other on the issue to come out.
#89 to #80 - IAMDIZZYONFANTA (02/07/2013) [-]
There are a few around, mostly from university carcinogenic research and the like. Use Google Scholar, it's an absolute wonder and will direct you to relevant scholarly journals. From what's been found, "pure" marijuana - that is, not altered by the growers or dealers, entirely unlaced, pure, natural leaf - has no known long-term side effects. The only negative known is the short term possibility of "whiting out" from taking too much, but this has only been shown to cause nausea for ~2 hours. A paltry amount, compared to Alcohol's upper limit of 2 days' worth of illness.
User avatar #95 to #89 - charagrin (02/07/2013) [-]
Thank you, that was all I wanted. I have dubbed around online itself but always found biased reports from one side or the other. I shall try Google Scholar and go from there.
User avatar #73 to #69 - charagrin (02/07/2013) [-]
I am not saying that pot is as bad as other drugs. But THC IS a foreign substance, so there has to be some negative side effects. The amount required to gain those side effects is the question. Booze isn't bad for you either, till you drink all day every day. Tobacco isn't bad for you till you smoke a pack all day every day. What are the long term effects of weed? JUST paranoia, or is there more. Cancer is likely, simply because it is smoke entering the lung tissue which causes damage. the chances of getting cancer from it would be very small, but they would still exist. Anything else?
#86 to #73 - IAMDIZZYONFANTA (02/07/2013) [-]
I am not saying that pot is as bad as other drugs. But THC IS a foreign substance, so there has to be some negative side effects. The amount required to gain those side effects is the question.

The same can be said of food. Should we ban food except for regulated MREs in case people over-eat?

Booze isn't bad for you either, till you drink all day every day. Tobacco isn't bad for you till you smoke a pack all day every day.


Actually, both are noticeably bad for you from the get-go. That's irrelevant though.

What are the long term effects of weed? JUST paranoia, or is there more. Cancer is likely, simply because it is smoke entering the lung tissue which causes damage.

Only if you smoke it. If you vaporise it the smoke is replaced by water vapour, which doesn't damage your lungs at all. As for the effects of THC - it's been tested long-term, and it doesn't pop up with any differences to the system. I'm not going to mention research into its uses against Alzheimers and cancer diseases however, since I'm not knowledgeable enough on those subjects. Also the paranoia is thought to come from weed laced with various addictives to increase dealer net profits, since beyond usual plant matter (cellulose, starch etc.) THC is one of the only things differentiating it from a normal leaf, and that's been found to not cause it.
User avatar #91 to #86 - charagrin (02/07/2013) [-]
You have me confused with someone who is anti-pot. There is no one for you to convert here. All I am saying is there HAS to be some effects logically. Obviously the anti-pot studies, and the pro-pot studies are biased and pot is either harmless or responsible for everything from Jesus dying to abortions. I am just saying their must be something. THC in small amounts is beneficial, like a cig to ease stress, or a glass of wine for antioxidents. But WHERE is the line, and WHAT are the effects of pot. HOW MUCH is to much, at what point do the effects become noticable, and what are they. I don't want one opinion, i want a study done by those with scientific credentials. If you don't have one, thats fine. Again, I am not anti-pot, so please don't treat me like I am.
#98 to #91 - IAMDIZZYONFANTA (02/07/2013) [-]
Oh no, I don't have you confused. I'm just showing that saying that there should "logically" be some kind of negative side effects is, in itself, a logical fallacy. Let me explain.

I'm sure that if you concentrate THC into a solution and inject a ********* of it into someone, we will see negative effects. The only problem is, it's impossible to get that manually, i.e. vaporised into the lungs, since you'll excrete the excess THC long before it has a chance to affect you thanks to the wonder of exhaling. It's why holding it for longer gives a greater effect, since it gives the stimulants more time to work. There's a reason that despite marijuana being the number one most consumed drug in the US and UK, there are absolutely zero deaths per year from overdose, despite that caricature of the stoners in a car smoking a whole baggy in a night being hilariously real. It's because you can't overdose without the aid of a laboratory and a small posse of chemists, and even then we don't really know what will happen. Research needs to be done though, if only in the interest of science.
#72 to #44 - IAMDIZZYONFANTA (02/07/2013) [-]
Oh, and not all foreign substances are bad. Inoculations, food, drink, painkillers, vitamin supplements, oxygen-enriched gas during operations - all are "foreign substances," but carry no negative side effects other than those presented by over use. And marijuana is pretty much impossible to over-use since you get distracted from it once you've had enough, or you feel dizzy and throw up, which rather knocks the idea of smoking some more on the head.
User avatar #166 to #44 - gagster (02/07/2013) [-]
I've seen numerous studies on the effects of smoking weed. The only lasting effect was increased lung capacity.
User avatar #188 to #44 - Faz (02/07/2013) [-]
I know its been said to you before but i need say it again, everything you intake is a foreign substance now onto marijuana being bad, marijuana is not bad for you, it becomes bad for you when you over use it (smoking it every single day), if someone does smoke it every day then the likely hood of them felling paranoid, depressed and sometimes angry will increase drastically but taking it once a week is actually healthy for you since its got a whole smorgasbord of medicinal benefits. Just like a small glass of red wine a day is good for you, but multiple glasses are not because you have now used too much.
#269 - sniffalot (02/07/2013) [-]
Look it's ****** up but if it's illegal don't bitch about getting caught.
Why wouldn't you wear a ******* seatbelt?
Pay your taxes. There is too many reasons for me to write that justify them.
User avatar #274 to #269 - derpypotato (02/07/2013) [-]
i concur with you except for the taxes ting, some people cant just pay their taxes for different problems, the government instead of giving them a second chance to pay, they just evict the **** out of them leaving their asses on the street... this is **** up :/
User avatar #257 - imabser (02/07/2013) [-]
My grandma told me I only had to do two things.

Pay taxes and die.
#263 to #257 - byposted (02/07/2013) [-]
what about purchasing useless "goods" and feeding into the free market?

your dad was a commie
User avatar #276 to #257 - bowservoltaire (02/07/2013) [-]
I love her already
User avatar #43 - KayRed (02/07/2013) [-]
Ok, **** that seatbelt comment. It's one thing if you're in a car by yourself without a seatbelt, you'll die, but I don't' care about your life, because you're doing something stupid, but if you're in a car with other people and you're not wearing a seatbelt, **** you. In an accident, you become a flailing, high velocity ragdoll, and will hurt or maybe kill those in the car with you, so **** you.
User avatar #170 - vanoreo (02/07/2013) [-]
>Taxes - It's basically a country membership fee. Every country has one.
>Gun - what if she was going to rob a bank?
>Pot - I think it should be legal, but if it's illegal now and you know it, you're retarded for smoking it
> Seat-belt - you're supposed to wear it if you value your ******* life retard
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