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#3 - alcatraztiger
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(02/02/2013) [-]
there may be no .46 but there is a .50...the ACTUAL OP knew **** all about handguns.
#8 to #3 - lyiat ONLINE
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(02/02/2013) [-]
.50 is for shooting out engine blocks, not people. You don't carry a .50 because the recoil is absolutely insane, and the average person doesn't need to take down armored jeeps.
#12 to #8 - thatoldhorse
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(02/02/2013) [-]
this is what people say before they get mugged by armored jeeps
#14 to #12 - lyiat ONLINE
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(02/02/2013) [-]
The **** ar-
*BEEPBEEP*
SONOFABITCH!
#20 to #8 - thatguywhohasbacon
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(02/02/2013) [-]
.50 AE is made for handguns, it's horribly impractical for self defense but it sure is fun to shoot, the desert eagle most notably fires it.
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#55 to #40 - thatguywhohasbacon
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(02/02/2013) [-]
It's the action express, it was made by action arms in 1988.
#102 to #55 - thegamerslife
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(02/03/2013) [-]
This does not factor in 22TCM.
#19 to #8 - saddestofbreads
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(02/02/2013) [-]
A .50 pistol isn't going to take out a jeep. A .50 rifle would though.
#50 to #19 - thamuz
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(02/02/2013) [-]
Actually it was designed for that purpose of knocking out a moving vehicle with a hit to the front. It was desinged for an officer to carry to shoot into the engine block and disable either the radiator or the block itself.

Is it possible? I dont know,I dont own a .50AE so I cant verify that,but Im sure if you look around. I know the Poles use them.
#54 to #50 - thatguywhohasbacon
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(02/02/2013) [-]
You mean just .50 bmg, .50ae is the handgun caliber.
#56 to #54 - thamuz
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(02/02/2013) [-]
No. It is in service with the Poles.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMI_Desert_Eagle

#58 to #56 - thatguywhohasbacon
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(02/02/2013) [-]
That is the desert eagle, and it wasn't made for knocking out engine blocks, there is a difference between the rounds, the action express was made for large game hunting:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.50_Action_Express
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.50_BMG
#60 to #58 - thamuz
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(02/02/2013) [-]
I know the difference between the AE/BMG.

Im saying,that for the pistols design,the AE was probably intent for knocking out cars that could be carrying IEDs
#61 to #60 - thamuz
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(02/02/2013) [-]
*edit* the pistol using the AE I meant to write >.>
#62 to #61 - thatguywhohasbacon
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(02/02/2013) [-]
It could be used for that very effectively, but a rifle would probably be better. It sounded at first like you thought they were the same, you don't know how many people I've encountered think the desert eagle fires the same thing as a Barrett.
#64 to #62 - thamuz
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(02/02/2013) [-]
Ive shot an M99 Scorpion once,and that one was chambered in .50 BMG. Kick isnt bad on a long gun while laying down,but in a pistol sized package? I be that would break ones wrist. I know theres a pistol that fires the BMG but its so cumbersome that I wouldnt want to even try shooting it.
#66 to #64 - thatguywhohasbacon
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(02/02/2013) [-]
I fired a Barrett while kneeling once, the recoil knocked me over, but that's because I don't balance well while kneeling.
#69 to #66 - thamuz
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(02/02/2013) [-]
Its a fun round to shoot. the M82 isnt that bad from what Ive observed. It seems to kick like a rather heavy 30-06.
#70 to #69 - thatguywhohasbacon
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(02/02/2013) [-]
It's really fun to shoot, but it's expensive as hell. The BOFORS works amazingly on it as well.
#71 to #70 - thatguywhohasbacon
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(02/02/2013) [-]
*BORS, I have no idea where I got bofors from.
#72 to #71 - thamuz
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(02/02/2013) [-]
Yeah Im too poor to afford something like that(I would love that computer however) so Im getting a Mosin-Nagant.
#73 to #72 - thatguywhohasbacon
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(02/02/2013) [-]
Not gonna judge you on that, almost everybody I know who owns a gun owns a mosin nagant, including me.
#74 to #73 - thamuz
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(02/02/2013) [-]
How is it to handle? Anything I should be lookin for when I look at one?
#75 to #74 - thatguywhohasbacon
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(02/02/2013) [-]
Don't expect amazing condition, It has alot of recoil and the bolt is sometimes stiff when you first go to use it. Save this picture, use it as a guide when you go to buy one. Also clean it before you shoot it after buying it, that's my advice.
#85 to #75 - thamuz
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(02/02/2013) [-]
Well,Im going to TX Ill have to see if they can send one then. Thats a fine lookin rifle in that picture they have on the link
#80 to #75 - thamuz
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(02/02/2013) [-]
Ive been watching some of these online sales. Ive seen maybe 2-3 that have matching ###s on them and they end up in the 2-400$ price range.

Any way to mount optics to them?
#84 to #80 - thatguywhohasbacon
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(02/02/2013) [-]
There is a rail, and there are scopes made for it. Cabelas sells a pretty nice package for about 150$, it does not have a scope though.
http://www.cabelas . com/product/Mosin-Nagant-Model-9130-Rifle/710007.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath= %2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fformstate%3DsearchForm%26N%3D0%26fsch%3Dtrue%26Ntk%3D AllProducts%26Ntt%3Dmosin%26x%3D0%26y%3D0%26WTzl%3DHeader&Ntt=mosin
#76 to #75 - thamuz
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(02/02/2013) [-]
Well,the gun is pushing 200 years old,I dont imagine perfection. But the price on them is just too good to let go.

Ive shot a Lee Enfield(used to own one,loved it to death) so would it be similar to that?
#77 to #76 - thatguywhohasbacon
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(02/02/2013) [-]
I can't say for sure, I believe the enfield has less recoil, but that's just what I've heard from friends, I don't have a enfield nor have I ever fired one I'm sad to say. Oh, one last thing: Don't trust the mosin if the serial numbers match up, they almost never do, and when they do the price skyrockets.
#63 to #62 - thatguywhohasbacon
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(02/02/2013) [-]
Also it WAS developed to take out medium/large game, but it can be used to take out unarmored vehicles, not really anything with armor though.
#65 to #63 - thamuz
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(02/02/2013) [-]
I would imagine it could punch through the softer spots on some LAVs. Not all of thembut the smaller ones i imagine you could at least dent fairly well.
#68 to #65 - thatguywhohasbacon
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(02/02/2013) [-]
I've never tested but I'd imagine so.
#4 to #3 - ichbintarded
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(02/02/2013) [-]
.45 is one of the highest pistol caliber rounds with low enough recoil for a follow up shot. Shooters don't use .50 pistols because they are heavy, cumbersome, unwieldy, and are impossible to conceal. The only thing that can compare in my world is a .40 cal. commenter needs to learn about shooting, not guns.
#6 to #4 - Zombiefried
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(02/02/2013) [-]
I completely agree. But just so everyone's clear on this, there is a .46. .460 S&W Magnum.
#7 to #6 - lyiat ONLINE
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(02/02/2013) [-]
.460 =/=.46. Thats like saying a .38 special round will fit in a .380 pistol.
#17 to #7 - Hidnight
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(02/02/2013) [-]
To let you guys know, I read your conversation to get the joke, thanks.
#43 to #17 - ichbintarded
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(02/02/2013) [-]
You are most welcome to our geek-tastic explanation.
#23 to #7 - edsabbath
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(02/02/2013) [-]
That's kind of wrong though, .460 is .46 caliber (well, 11.5mm, but it's close enough). And it's a handgun cartridge. Just because it's not referred to as ".46" doesn't mean it isn't of .46 caliber. A .357 Magnum round is still .38 caliber whether it uses it in its name or not.
#24 to #23 - edsabbath
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(02/02/2013) [-]
Or, to correct myself, I meant vice-versa with the .357 and .38. Sorry about that.
#15 to #4 - thegamerslife
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(02/02/2013) [-]
idk why you think your right on this, but 10mm is the second best pistol caliber only thing better is the 22TCM, look it up, it's like having a 223 rifle on your hip, shooting at over 2000 FPS it is the best personal defense pistol caliber on market.
#42 to #15 - ichbintarded
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(02/02/2013) [-]
There is no best pistol; round. That's why I said in my world, When you still inhabit reality then .45 is about the highest people want to go. Also 10mm is roughly a .40 cal, which I said I like, 10mm has a bit more kick and a bit less speed so I dislike it, though s&w made it a very worthwhile round.
#88 to #42 - thegamerslife
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(02/02/2013) [-]
No it is the best, this can no be denied since no one wants a pistol cartridge in a gun fight, you would rather have your AR-15. 22TCM is quit similar and a huge advantage over everything else. It's small enough if you use FMJ it can better go through body armor and had a lot of power behind it. It may not have "knockdown" power or any of that BS but it is closer to a rifle round than you can get in any other pistol cartridge even +P+'s so it is actually the best pistol round in the (my world i guess -_- ) world to date.
#89 to #88 - ichbintarded
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(02/02/2013) [-]
The only problem I have with this comes from my take on social psycology. There can be no best, if there was nothing would improve. The thoght you expressed of their being a best for everybody is simply naivety incarnate. Past that I disagree with your choice, but find that it has some merit.
#26 - itrinx
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(02/02/2013) [-]
I know that gun.
#2 - techketzer
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(02/01/2013) [-]
That is a very beautiful gun.
#25 - fantomen
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(02/02/2013) [-]
They DO make 10mm 1911s with double stack mags.
Come on, guys it's not ******* 1915 any more. There are far better calibers out there than the old high-recoil no-penetration .45acp.
#27 to #25 - watanigga **User deleted account**
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#30 to #27 - fantomen
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(02/02/2013) [-]
More of a nerd than an expert, but yeah.
Reading 1200 page books about guns for fun isn't normal, but it is for me.
Me, not even once.
#31 to #30 - watanigga **User deleted account**
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(02/02/2013) [-]
So you're knowledgeable, but you're not experienced... So you don't know first hand WHAT kind of caliber is "better" for what, or exactly how the recoil feels, just what people have told you.



And that my friends, is what's wrong with this generation of "tacti-cool" gun lovers.
#33 to #31 - fantomen
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(02/02/2013) [-]
I have fired both a 10mm 1911, and a traditional .45, and I think the 10mm is better.
The recoil is a little more snappy than the .45, but it has less muzzle flip.

And no, I don't claim to know **** I don't know.
And I hate faggots like nuthinfaggy that claims they know everything, when they clearly don't.
#41 to #25 - crazyglove
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(02/02/2013) [-]
The gun's beautiful though. Sometimes tradition is the best way to go.
New weapons are cool and all, but I'd always prefer a pre world war 2 rifle than one of the new rifles we have today.
#36 to #25 - redneckhokage
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(02/02/2013) [-]
>.45
>"no penetration"
>waht?
#38 to #25 - dikslapping
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(02/02/2013) [-]
I enjoy my 1911's low penetration power. If I need to shoot an intruder in my house I don't want the round going through my walls. Plus all the power stays in the body of the person getting shot. I don't think that I will need to shoot through body armor or anything reinforced.
#49 to #25 - thamuz
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(02/02/2013) [-]
a .45 has a helluva lot of stopping power vs a 9mm. It kicks like a mule if you arent used to it,but I would rather have a .45 than a crap 9mm. Dont get me wrong,a 9mm is a decent round,but I dont trust it like I would a .45.

As said before,I dont need overpenetration like I would get on some of the more high power rounds. The .45 leaves one big bloody hole,and thats what I need it to do.

There *is* AP ammo for the .45 but its from the 50s and not very common.
#90 to #49 - fantomen
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(02/02/2013) [-]
I must admit I do like the "thump" of a .45, but they just aren't as deadly as slightly faster rounds. The big problem with the .45 is the slow speed, this means that it has very poor penetration against real bodies. It looks good on blocks of ballistics gel, but real bodies are full of bone and thick tissue which protect the heart and lungs.
This is where the .45 starts having major problems. I've seen X-rays of a guy shot pointblank in the chest with a .45, and he was fine. The bullet couldn't make it through the bone in his chest, and stopped about an inch away from his heart. Had that bullet been going 200fps faster he would have been dead. Another drawback with the .45 is that the speed is so low that hollow-points don't want to open, so you need massive cavities to make them work, and when you make the cavities so large the get clogged up with cloth and stuff, and they won't work.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those guys that thinks "the faster the better. 5,7mm is GOD".
But you need a proper balance of speed and mass to get the most lethal potential.
If you toss a bowling ball at a guy he might break a bone or two, but if you fire it from a cannon it will cut him in half. High mass alone does not equal pure killing power, you need to get that mass hauling ass before it has a truly devastating effect.
#91 to #90 - thamuz
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(02/03/2013) [-]
Ive shot the 5.7mm before,its is a nice pistol. But for me,I never liked the 10mm(or is it .40 cal?) handguns.

The .45 is a good caliber round,slow yes(but purely dependent on your bullets. if you are hand loading,or using hot loads,its still a damned fine weapon)
#92 to #91 - fantomen
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(02/03/2013) [-]
Hey, everyone has their own preference.
Personally I'm a huge fan of the .357magnum.
And with good handloads you can improve on almost all commercial rounds.
It's probably better to carry something decent you're comfortable with, and can hit with, than something space-age you hate and can't fire straight.
#93 to #92 - thamuz
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(02/03/2013) [-]
I agree with that 100%. You ever shoot a Colt Python? For a revolver that was just wow. The one I shot was buttery smooth and real accurate.
#94 to #93 - fantomen
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(02/03/2013) [-]
Well, I'm a euro-fag, so I haven't had the chance to fire THAT many guns (maybe 40 or 50) , but I have fired a few shots out of an old 70s python. It was probably the third nicest revolver I've ever fired. The only ones that top they python when it comes to shooting pleasure was a ************ Mateba Grifore autorevolver carbine, and a custom built Manurhin MR 73 target revolver. But in terms of beauty the Python is hard to beat, The only one I've TOUCHED nicer than the Colt was a German Korth revolver, but since they are more or less priceless, I was only allowed to hold it for a few seconds and dry fire it once.

Excuse me if this is hard to read. English isn't my first language, I'm a little drunk, and I had surgery done on my hand 2 days ago.
#95 to #94 - thamuz
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(02/03/2013) [-]
Ive had the chance to fire a Drilling,it had a wierd rifle caliber in one barrel,and two different shotgun barrels on it(I think one was 12 the other was 20) Strange,but fun.

Im buying a Mosin Nagant later in the month. Im just waiting for an example I like.
#96 to #95 - fantomen
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(02/03/2013) [-]
Drillings and combination guns are quite common here in Europe.
Because most countries here limit the number of guns you can have for hunting (usually between 3 or 5) drilling have become popular with hunters, because of their versatility.
But they are very time consuming to make, and so they are usually very expensive, and they are usually chambered for very odd long rimmed cartridges, and old short shotgun shells.
The versatility of drillings and combination guns are also highly valued here because the hunting seasons are long and often overlap, and the versatility of these guns mean that you can often legally shoot something you never expected to find on your hunt.

Good luck with the mosin.
I got to shoot an old battle scarred one in Finland.
Let's just say the rumors about that particular gun said it had taken down more than just moose and deer.
#97 to #96 - thamuz
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(02/03/2013) [-]
I imagine theyre expensive to make.

Personally,theres a few odd weapons Id love to own. a drilling is one.
#98 to #97 - fantomen
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(02/03/2013) [-]
I love odd and strange things.
I'd love to have some rare "bad" weapon, just because they are so unique.
Guns that are concidered "cheap ****" by many are some of my favorites. Guns like the FP-45 liberator and the Gustloff volksurmgewehr, and the gyrojet.
#99 to #98 - thamuz
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(02/03/2013) [-]
Ive seen one gyrojet. It was the oddest little handgun I have ever seen.

I want the Mosin,cause its well,a Mosin. I had a Lee-Enfield and I loved it.

My cousin has a Ross Rifle. Loves the gun,but he told me its the biggest piece of **** if anything gets in it.
#100 to #99 - fantomen
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(02/03/2013) [-]
Yes, the Ross has always had a reputation for unreliability, but they are supposedly very accurate rifles. However, they have been known to explode, killing the shooter, and shooting the bolt through their skull if you fire it while incorrectly assembled.
#101 to #100 - thamuz
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(02/03/2013) [-]
We had that happen once. Bolt shot out the back on the stand. Last time we fired it. It sits on the shelf looking pretty. Like my M1 Carbine.
#48 - DeepSilver
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(02/02/2013) [-]
they do make a .460 but thats a revolver cartridge ...
#52 to #48 - notyaoming
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(02/02/2013) [-]
They make a .46 Auto too.
#46 - IAmManbearpig
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(02/02/2013) [-]
.454 Casull
.460
.500
#5 - awesomeradish
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(02/02/2013) [-]
Thumb for your username
#13 - bowservoltaire
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#9 - garvielxloken
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(02/02/2013) [-]
If you lived in Georgia he'd just ask you what you were carrying as your back-up :P
#1 - mitchthehugeman
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(02/01/2013) [-]
I want this gun
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