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#4 - anon
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(01/30/2013) [-]
Anyone who has actually read the bible, would stop being a Christian.
#5 to #4 - optimistchime
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(01/30/2013) [-]
Except for devoted Christians
So most Christians
#6 to #5 - insanefreak
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(01/30/2013) [-]
Most Christians are devoted Christians?
If I told that one in my catholic school, we all would die laughing.
In America, perhaps, but I don't live there so I don't know whether that's the truth or not. From my short visit there, it seemed like that.
However, most youths over here (Belgium) are raised in a catholic environment, only to grow up being atheists in the end. So, yeah.. We read the Bible as children, but most of us aren't christian in anyway more than the name.
#9 to #6 - lordcaboose
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(01/31/2013) [-]
It's the same in the US. Most people that claim to be Christian are not even close. They just go to church when it is convenient or after some disaster. It's probably a higher proportion than in most of Europe, but for a lot of people it is just self-gratification or an excuse to deny science they don't want to have put any effort into learning.

NOTE: This is not a comment on religion or whether it is a good or bad thing; just my personal observations.
#8 to #5 - tfixari
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(01/30/2013) [-]
i actually agree with Insanefreak on this one. I don't think most professing Christians are devoted/practicing Christians, like the type that would read the Bible. However I don't have any statistic to support or argue that claim.
#7 to #4 - tfixari
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(01/30/2013) [-]
i have. i continuously read the Bible everyday. practicing Christians do this, not cultural Christians (an yes, there is a difference).
i have. i continuously read the Bible everyday. practicing Christians do this, not cultural Christians (an yes, there is a difference).
#13 to #7 - yomommabinshoppin
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(01/31/2013) [-]
I have read through it once and a half over 2 years, but I need the willpower to read it daily, any suggestions
#14 to #13 - theonlytinman
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(01/31/2013) [-]
Easiest way is to set aside time in your day every day. Like, I will read 15 minutes (or however long it pleases you, everyone at their own pace) every single night before I go to sleep. Or right before you wake up. Or the first half of a lunch break.
#15 to #14 - pooplol
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(01/31/2013) [-]
So you can read the bible in your sleep since you can read it before you wake up. ******* cool
#16 to #15 - theonlytinman
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(01/31/2013) [-]
lol. Well, I guess technically I've had dreams where I was reading it. But no, that was definitely my bad.
#34 to #13 - vonspyder ONLINE
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(01/31/2013) [-]
Yes. Read different versions. learn the differences in interpretations and translations try to understand the meaning behind the words and the message that was SUPPOSED to be conveyed rather than the one in English that is usually before you. Read Versions with different books that are omitted in others like the Book of Jubilees, the Gospel of Mary, and other apocrypha. Cut through the ******** of the fake christians and the idiot pretentious athiests.
#11 to #7 - Vandeekree
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(01/31/2013) [-]
Respect
#108 to #7 - douevensax
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(02/01/2013) [-]
I think Fj is not Christian, but it most definitely got more tolerant.
#22 to #7 - anon
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(01/31/2013) [-]
then you are a complete imbecile and obviously just ignore that awful awful things in the bible! The bad parts FAR FAR FAR out way to good parts in the bible! what has happened to this site! jesus ****** christ!
#19 to #7 - douevensax
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(01/31/2013) [-]
I'm trying. After the Gospels, all these people with repeats of names come in. Poor Stephen.
#39 to #19 - vonspyder ONLINE
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(01/31/2013) [-]
Try to take the Epistles with a grain of salt, rather than a pillar of it ;)
#110 to #19 - aerosol
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(02/21/2013) [-]
I have this picture in my reaction folder under the name "stephen", and I have no idea where it came from.   
<But I'm assuming you mean this guy
I have this picture in my reaction folder under the name "stephen", and I have no idea where it came from.
<But I'm assuming you mean this guy
#56 - ishotthedeputy
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(01/31/2013) [-]
Atheists do the same thing, they just hit "don't agree" instead
#65 to #56 - anon
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(01/31/2013) [-]
Forgot the part where we clicked that button for islam, judaism, hinduism, norse gods, egyptian gods, greek gods, roman gods
#72 to #56 - cullenatorguy
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(01/31/2013) [-]
And then we go back and read it when someone tries to shove the product down my throat, become anti-productists, and shove anti-productness down other people's throats, even consumers of said product.

#77 to #56 - anon
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(01/31/2013) [-]
atheists on average know more about the bible than christians
#78 to #56 - anon
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(01/31/2013) [-]
Not how it works. "Atheist" shouldn't even be a word. You don't need a label for the lack thereof.
#101 to #56 - anon
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(01/31/2013) [-]
I only became an atheist AFTER I read the bible. Don't be ridiculous.
#58 to #56 - zenrath
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(01/31/2013) [-]
SNAP!
#20 - llpanic
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(01/31/2013) [-]
isn't the same most people do with science? don't you just accept anything anyone says a scientist did as a fact?, even if it's an hypothesis? i bet you don't go to the library every time you find a "fact" on sites like this to confirm it, you probably just accept them as true

I'm not religious but this arguments are retarded

bring the red thumbs


#21 to #20 - anon
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(01/31/2013) [-]
no this is in fact incredibly logical for the simple fact that we have all see sciencey type papers in school etc and we have also all seen a lot of the stupid bible things but the book is incredibly vast that there is ALOT in there that people ignore because it makes the religion look bad! whereas in the science papers none of it makes the subject of science look bad! think before you comment
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#29 to #20 - jakefenris
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(01/31/2013) [-]
There is a big difference between "The Bible is the word of God and cannot and must not be ignored, questioned or disobeyed." And science, where a scientist or a group of scientists study natural phenomenon, create a hypothesis, compare their hypothesis to nature, complete experiments, study the results of their experiments, and publish their findings. They then propose their hypothesis to the scientific community, wait as it is reviewed, experimented upon, replicated, reviewed again, compared with other studies, experiments and natural phenomenon.

If it does not disprove findings in previous studies, cannot be replicated exactly, or does not match easily studied phenomenon, then it does not pass and it is thrown out. If it is accepted it is then published and accepted as a scientific theory. It is not the claim of one scientist without any proof, experimentation or work involved. It is the combined effort and knowledge of the entire scientific community dedicated to that field who signed off on it. This has absolutely nothing to do with faith and everything to do with hours, months and decades of study, work and the effort of multiple people. Not only that but once a theory has been published the results, phenomenon, experiments and tests are open to the public. Many scientists are more than happy to explain many of their finds in laymen terms for the average person to understand.
#53 to #29 - thepyras
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(01/31/2013) [-]
Of course there is, but I don't think llpanic claimed that there was not. His subject of critique was people who blindly believe what they read on internet comments like these of what "science" says to be true, not science itself.
#23 to #20 - secretdestroyers
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(01/31/2013) [-]
You want facts? Look at archaeology. In the words of Indiana Jones "Archaeology is the search for fact not truth. If it's truth you're looking for, the philosophy class is right down the hall!"
#83 to #23 - hankpym
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(01/31/2013) [-]
The setting is thousands of years in the future in a digsite...
"Hey Boss!"
"Yeah johnson? What is it?"
"Check out this painting I found!"
"My god ... this, this is fascinating! I think we have the find of the century here! To think we finally have an idea of how people lived during the 21st century!"

pic is the pic they find
#62 to #20 - buckoman
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(01/31/2013) [-]
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Actually, I don't accept anything as a fact (even if it's a hypothesis) unless there's information to back it up/reason to believe the hypothesis can be proven.

No, I don't go to the library. If it's something worth believing, I look it up and confirm it with different sources.

Anyone who blindly accepts things without reason to believe they're true is retarded, religious or science based.
#46 to #20 - allamericandude
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(01/31/2013) [-]
Actually, you're right--philosophically speaking, at least. I took a course on this a few semesters ago. It was a philosophy class about the differences between science and religion. It was pretty interesting.

But anyway, this point did come up. While the argument that science is based on "facts" and religion is based on "faith" is true in many cases, realistically there are too many exceptions for it to be a completely valid argument. People accept a lot of scientific ideas on the "faith" that someone somewhere did the research to prove it right. But if you asked an individual to prove one of those facts to be true, they probably wouldn't be able to do it--which is one of the main criticisms of religion.

The details of it all were really deep and philosophical--way above my head, at least--so obviously I'm paraphrasing. But the gist of it is that you are correct--You can't use the "faith" argument to distinguish science and religion.
#60 - smokekusheveryday
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#32 - vonspyder ONLINE
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(01/31/2013) [-]
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So....OP....you have met and spoken to most Christians? Just like the klan has spoken to most negroes and politicians have spoken to and met most of their jurisdictions?
#42 to #32 - Omegashenron
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(01/31/2013) [-]
Not really lol since he is not the OP. its a screenshot of someone else who wrote it.
#36 - fyaq
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(01/31/2013) [-]
atheists are like vegans, they'll bitch about **** other people do instead of living their own lives while the other party keeps doing what they do.
#43 to #36 - anon
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(01/31/2013) [-]
You forgot the part where the vegan only has voice online and gets discriminated against in real life. Also where the vegan sees someone eating meat and then that person says because he eats meat it's okay to beat his wife. Trust me I'm a "vegan" and don't care if you "eat meat" but it's when people use it as an excuse to harm other people, restrict others rights I get angry and then I see people arguing that these people should be allowed to do what they want since it's part of their "meat eating"
#49 to #43 - gammajk ONLINE
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(01/31/2013) [-]
u wot m8

Seriously though, I wasn't aware that eating meat makes you beat your wife.
#57 to #49 - anon
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(01/31/2013) [-]
Refer to my post below, I was using a simile, for someone reason you couldn't understand that.
#47 to #43 - dpcrosby
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(01/31/2013) [-]
what idiot is saying its ok to beat his wife because he eats meat? that makes no sense just like your argument
#51 to #47 - anon
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(01/31/2013) [-]
The post likened atheists to vegans as a simile, expanding on this simile I had assumed that someone who eats meat would be someone who believes in a god or higher power. In the Islamic faith it is ok to beat your wife if she does not do as you ask.

So my argument does not literally have anything to do with eating meat but it was merely used as a simile to get a point across, so if you couldn't interpret it my apologies.

Also I feel like I was just trolled but I'm not sure
#52 to #43 - anon
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(01/31/2013) [-]
Hi! How ya doin?

Just thought I would let you know a few things. 1) You are full of ****, or troll lvl 1. 2) How they hell did you make that "If you eat meat, you beat your wife" logic? So if you don't eat meat, you **** chickens or something? 3) How the hell are vegans "oppressed"? Never seen a group of people go out and hunt them down. Neither have I seen that done for atheists. In the end, you are both solitary losers who crave attention that was never given to you as a child.

KTHXBAI
#61 to #52 - anon
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(01/31/2013) [-]
Point completely flew over your head, as explained below a simile was made in the original post. This simile was atheists are like vegans, I assumed vice versa was true, meat eaters are like people who believe in god or a higher power. Instead of using this simile I realized I should have just said what I meant

Here's the argument simplified without similes.

Atheists get discriminated against, polls have shown religious people trust atheists the same as rapists, when it comes to politics atheists hardly ever get elected. Also as an atheists we see people who believe in god and because they do they believe they are allowed to beat their wife. As an atheist I'm fine if you believe in god but when your belief in god causes harms to others or restricts other's rights I get angry and then I see people arguing that the actions these people take should be allowed simply because it's what they believe.
#92 to #36 - anon
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(01/31/2013) [-]
Yes there should not be eny religions. Its just stupid to believe blindly in something that someone else says. Everyone should believe in science or own just own logic.
#66 to #36 - rmoran ONLINE
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(01/31/2013) [-]
Atheists would actually be the default "all food eater" in that analogy. All other religions would be different kinds of diet-specific groups. Hell, it's not figurative either! Jews, Christians, Muslims, etc abstain from different foods (even if it's periodical).
#63 to #36 - buckoman
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(01/31/2013) [-]
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Am I the only atheist who leaves people alone and doesn't bitch?

Can I somehow apologize for the bad reputation atheists get? It's really pretentious and annoying.

It's just a different belief (or lack thereof). It doesn't entitle anyone to anything special.
#81 to #63 - deathzor
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(01/31/2013) [-]
Yeah.....I'm also getting sick of the militant atheists giving us normal ******************* atheists a bad rep.
#69 to #63 - grumpythefirst
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(01/31/2013) [-]
You are not the only one, friend. I am the same way.
You are not the only one, friend. I am the same way.
#12 - kanatana
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(01/31/2013) [-]
Ironically, "I Agree" is the most common lie in Western civilization. Coincidence?
#17 to #12 - iaminfactawizard
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(01/31/2013) [-]
"Don't go to the festival!"

"Okay."
#33 to #17 - seymourtets
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#89 - jasonvgrace
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#90 to #89 - jasonvgrace
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(01/31/2013) [-]
bible*
#70 - finni
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(01/31/2013) [-]
MFW this
MFW this
#48 - liberator
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(01/31/2013) [-]
Bible fights abound every time something mentioning religion is posted, without fail. So many butthurt people. Wow.