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#91 - stultum (01/30/2013) [-]
You know that they have to adjust the IQ scale every so many years because the average person is getting SMARTER with about one IQ point per decade, right?
You know that they have to adjust the IQ scale every so many years because the average person is getting SMARTER with about one IQ point per decade, right?
User avatar #170 to #91 - opsbeard (01/30/2013) [-]
I forget which episode this is... I know its season 2...
#155 to #91 - bearpirate (01/30/2013) [-]
Really, a single point per ******* decade? Please tell me how significant that change is.
User avatar #162 to #155 - stultum (01/30/2013) [-]
that means that, if they don't adjust it, in fourhunderd years, a normal person would score 140, and thus, would be considered gifted

it also means that someone who scores 100 on a test now (average) would be considered retarded in threehunderd years time.

so yes, it is significant.
#169 to #162 - bearpirate (01/30/2013) [-]
If you get really ******* technical you can look up the Flynn effect and it'll state that the average intelligence quotient is actually rising by around 3 points per decade in almost all parts of the world.
#166 to #162 - bearpirate (01/30/2013) [-]
I know how to math thank you. IQ does not measure intelligence, it measures the ability to learn and retain information. You could have someone with a genius level IQ and not very much actual knowledge. Take a child for example.
User avatar #202 to #166 - stultum (01/30/2013) [-]
isn't that ability intelligence? I always assumed that knowledge and intelligence are two different things. someone can have had very little education, but still be verry intelligent. but please excuse me if I am wrong.

this probably is a language barrier, because english is my third language, and while some (like these) words are close to each other in meaning and sound in many language, the nuances are different. take all those flame wars over 'socialism' for example.
User avatar #122 to #91 - Scorch (01/30/2013) [-]
are you sure?, because I got freakin 130 on the dutch IQ from last year and I did halve of it on beer
The scale on that one was based on all the dutch people who took it (and actually submitted there score)

and I'm not saying this to point out my own intellegence because I sucked at it...
User avatar #149 to #122 - stultum (01/30/2013) [-]
'de nationale IQ-test' you mean? that one on tv? easy explanation: there is a time-limit, which normal IQ-tests don't have on most of the subjects. a lot of the things that are tested on a normal IQ-test are not tested in this tv-show. some of the things that are tested in the tv-show (like long-time memory) are tested in a completely different way. the tv-test is much shorter. I bet you aren't the only one who took it on beer. and last but not least, they want people to feel smart. keeps them watching.

an average IQ is 100. IQ of 130 is very, very good.
User avatar #236 to #149 - Scorch (01/30/2013) [-]
also that 130 wasn't a real good test in an actual test with guessingcorrection I'd have scored way lower
User avatar #233 to #149 - Scorch (01/30/2013) [-]
yea that one, seems like a logical explanation.
I see you've looked into these things alot and I was wondering what do you think of the IQ test as a whole? Because personally I don't believe it's a good representative for one's intellegence (then again that might be lack of knowledge about the tests)
for one all the tests I have seen consist of 20% language and grammar. In my opinion this shouldn't part of the test because one's ability to use proper grammer and spelling isn't an actual skill that's affacted by your brain's capacity to proces information. It is only affacted by the list of words and rules you have or haven't learned.
I know that's just one part of the test but I have some other arguments which I don't have the time for to formulate right now.

So what do you think about it?
User avatar #247 to #233 - stultum (01/30/2013) [-]
I am not an expert in these things. Far from it. (also, I live in the Netherlands, so I watched the show last year.) I just have some interest in the human mind- that's why I know some things about some common mental disorders, why I know what an IQ test is about. I also have some knowlege about how tv-shows work in general- and that means that while they like the word 'science', they simplify any and everything. de nationale IQ test is fun to do, but, as you said youself, it isn't to be taken seriously.

the importance of IQ tests is at least debatable. social intelligence seems to be more important to be succesfull in life. your determination to learn something is more important to become good at something.

if you are interested at this kind of thing, I can reccomend to read magazines like Quest (understandable science magazine) and look around the internet- but always be aware that the internet is an unreliable source

I am just a final-year VWO'er who has a memory for interesting facts.
User avatar #277 to #247 - Scorch (01/30/2013) [-]
You don't have to be an expert to give an opinion, it just helps to be at least a little bit informed. I figured since you knew at least a bit it would have been interesting to hear your opinion ^^

coïncidently I'm also just a just final exam student xd but someone I knew had her ProfielWerkstuk on IQ etc a few years ago it was pretty interesting, that's where I got most of my knowledge about it.

I suppose you could say that. And it's definetly a good mindset to learn as much as possible. I think there's just so many skills people can have that it would be kind of silly to prioritize them or reduce them to nothing but a sily mark, I think it's best to figure out for yourself with what kind of skills you have but more importantly like and develop thos as much as possible ^^

well thnks for the chat and good luck with your exams
User avatar #93 to #91 - anotherone (01/30/2013) [-]
this ^
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