Liberal Logic. . mans ABE any run Lou ltr WHEY ; Baum. i just want to burn her hair
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User avatar #13 - ieatbengay (01/26/2013) [-]
i just want to burn her ****** hair
#81 to #13 - anon (01/27/2013) [-]
hold the **** up, this isn´t a boy ?
#107 to #13 - wheel (01/27/2013) [-]
her or his?
#180 to #13 - blackfloorboards (01/27/2013) [-]
Doing that alone would burn a massive hole in the o-zone.
#35 to #13 - hudspud (01/27/2013) [-]
If you lit that **** everyone in a ten-mile radius would get blazed out of their minds
User avatar #16 to #13 - FlyingButt ONLINE (01/27/2013) [-]
From the state of it, I think someone beat you to it.
#59 to #13 - frink (01/27/2013) [-]
You would probably get high from all the fumes.
#167 - blacklite (01/27/2013) [-]
Yeah....I've never met any liberal who actually thought this.   
   
In my opinion, both radical liberals and extremist conservatives are 			*******		 stupid. No matter what side you're on you can still be wrong.
Yeah....I've never met any liberal who actually thought this.

In my opinion, both radical liberals and extremist conservatives are ******* stupid. No matter what side you're on you can still be wrong.
User avatar #183 to #167 - ohlookathing (01/27/2013) [-]
Amen
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User avatar #204 to #167 - Marker (01/27/2013) [-]
This is why I prefer to remain left of center, as some will call it.
#148 - wheresthefudge (01/27/2013) [-]
mfw people use the term 'liberal' wrong.
mfw people use the term 'liberal' wrong.
#185 to #148 - anon (01/27/2013) [-]
Basically, Democrats were liberal for a long period (opposing federal powers and tariffs), but FDR got the country to switch its understanding of liberal and conservative. When running for office the first time, he actually criticized the Republican conservative Hoover for overspending, but after taking power he changed his goal to spending loads more to end the Great Depression (shockingly, it didn't end until he died over a decade later). However, the whole time he called himself a liberal and his opponents conservative, and everybody was willing to debate him on his own terms. We've been discussing politics in backwards terms ever since, much to Europe's chagrin.
User avatar #150 to #148 - datuser (01/27/2013) [-]
Then how is it really used?
#170 to #150 - wheresthefudge (01/27/2013) [-]
The idea of classical liberalism is much closer to what we'd call libertarianism now.   
There's also the idea of the political spectrum, where 'liberal' and 'conservative' on either extreme of the spectrum. By this way of thinking, a liberal want to have more freedoms, and a conservative wants to keep things the way they are. The far extremes (radical, reactionary) take these and push them further (a radical wants everything to be legal, a reactionary wants to go back to the laws of some point in the past).   
Regardless, neither of these definitions has a liberal wanting to ban anything.   
   
The problem comes when you try to say that the American Democrats are liberals and the American Republicans are conservatives. Each party is liberal in some ways and conservative in others. Even saying that one or the other is for 'small government' doesn't work, since each has policies that favor small government, and others which favor large government.   
That was a very long reply, and thus, I don't have an adequate reaction gif to sum the whole thing up (not, at least, without seeming like a pretentious asshat); so please enjoy this magical helicopter.
The idea of classical liberalism is much closer to what we'd call libertarianism now.
There's also the idea of the political spectrum, where 'liberal' and 'conservative' on either extreme of the spectrum. By this way of thinking, a liberal want to have more freedoms, and a conservative wants to keep things the way they are. The far extremes (radical, reactionary) take these and push them further (a radical wants everything to be legal, a reactionary wants to go back to the laws of some point in the past).
Regardless, neither of these definitions has a liberal wanting to ban anything.

The problem comes when you try to say that the American Democrats are liberals and the American Republicans are conservatives. Each party is liberal in some ways and conservative in others. Even saying that one or the other is for 'small government' doesn't work, since each has policies that favor small government, and others which favor large government.
That was a very long reply, and thus, I don't have an adequate reaction gif to sum the whole thing up (not, at least, without seeming like a pretentious asshat); so please enjoy this magical helicopter.
#177 to #170 - laserkirby (01/27/2013) [-]
Thanks man, cleared some things up.
#186 to #170 - anon (01/27/2013) [-]
mfw clever people on funnyjunk
#249 to #186 - wheresthefudge (01/27/2013) [-]
mfw no face
mfw no face
#166 to #150 - anon (01/27/2013) [-]
Good read about it. Or if you are too lazy just think of american liberalism as british conservatism. They are not the same but to make it simple for you they are the same enough. they believe in traditional right wing laissez faire society. Whereas every where else liberalism is generally about being a free, equal and progressive society.
#162 to #150 - anon (01/27/2013) [-]
Differently.
#160 to #148 - anon (01/27/2013) [-]
In the American context it is different from elsewhere. I understand your confusion.
User avatar #6 - fishtacos (01/26/2013) [-]
I hope you know that this is a ********* waiting to happen, just because of the title.
User avatar #7 to #6 - davidavidson (01/26/2013) [-]
I think wings are functionally irrelevant at this point; it's one monolithic body with wings painted on the front.

**** THIS gay COUNTRY. LET ME THE **** OUT!!!
User avatar #8 to #7 - fishtacos (01/26/2013) [-]
Exactly. The liberals are hypocrites because of above reason, and the conservatives are hypocrites because of the whole "Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Therefore, let's give EVERYONE a gun cuz that's totally gonna work out ok." among other reasons. The extremes of both sides are idiots, and it all manifests itself on the internet.
User avatar #9 to #8 - davidavidson (01/26/2013) [-]
I hope there is a civil war before "muh gunz" get taken. Just be honest
User avatar #10 to #9 - fishtacos (01/26/2013) [-]
I think all guns should be banned and destroyed. Then we give every single citizen the sword of their choice. That way we can go back to the civilized age of hacking each other to pieces.
User avatar #11 to #10 - davidavidson (01/26/2013) [-]
I don't think that's the best idea because the country is so full of illegal gun smuggling that disarming us all would put the smugglers in power. They will know that everyone else is a sitting duck.
User avatar #12 to #11 - fishtacos (01/26/2013) [-]
Meh, I was joking. I just prefer swords over guns
#14 to #12 - nightstar (01/27/2013) [-]
You don't have to reload an assault sword.
#24 to #14 - leanonwut (01/27/2013) [-]
I like both
#175 - arstya (01/27/2013) [-]
All these liberals and conservatives, and I'm just sitting here not giving a **** .
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User avatar #205 to #193 - martbeast (01/27/2013) [-]
Please read what the pic says. And realize you're stupid.
#197 to #175 - sairento ONLINE (01/27/2013) [-]
like I give one
like I give one
#243 to #197 - anon (01/27/2013) [-]
What is this sorcery ?!!
*mind blown*
#106 - randomserb (01/27/2013) [-]
Liberals who want to ban sodas aren't really liberals. Being a liberal means you believe in the people's freedom and minimal restrictions by the government, other than those necessary to keep law.
The words "liberal" and "conservative" have become synonymous with pro-abortion and pro-gay marriage, and anti-abortion and anti-gay marriage respectively. They relate to things other than these issues too.
User avatar #208 to #106 - partnerintroll (01/27/2013) [-]
That's why we have the terms Democrat and Republican that are never used by these 14 year old anti-american retards on this site
User avatar #238 to #208 - randomserb (01/27/2013) [-]
Those terms are very ambiguous. They don't represent political philosophy, but alignment to a political party.
Democrat =/= liberal, and republican =/= conservative.
User avatar #279 to #238 - partnerintroll (01/28/2013) [-]
That's what I'm getting at, that the terms are used incorrectly for the position of the parties
#146 to #106 - anon (01/27/2013) [-]
Im sorry i raelly just want an answer no need to hate. How did liberals, if they believe in individual freedom primarily etc, become part of the democratic party which is generally accepted as the "big government" party i.e. more gov't less individual?
User avatar #215 to #146 - deerbeer ONLINE (01/27/2013) [-]
Republicans are conservative only when it comes to abortion and gay marriage, and such. Democrats are liberal also only when it comes to those kind of topics. Either than that, it's actually reversed. People who are called liberals, aren't necessarily real liberals. That's the point he was trying to make, and you also confirmed it.
User avatar #271 to #215 - randomserb (01/27/2013) [-]
Spot on.
#149 to #106 - anon (01/27/2013) [-]
cool stroy bro, what about gun control?
#179 to #106 - anon (01/27/2013) [-]
Actually, conservatives are the ones for limited government. liberals believe in implementing social programs like welfare and affirmative action whereas conservatives are agaisnt raised taxes and a powerful federal government. You sound more like a libertarian
#109 to #106 - karouin (01/27/2013) [-]
Exactly. It's the radicals on both sides who are 			*******		 things up.
Exactly. It's the radicals on both sides who are ******* things up.
User avatar #113 to #109 - PiMaker (01/27/2013) [-]
name a moderate republican.
#206 to #113 - pooflinger (01/27/2013) [-]
You clearly don't understand how political ideology works. There are Democrats and Republicans spread out through the entire spectrum, including extremes and moderates on both sides.    
   
To answer your question:   
   
Lee Terry (R-NE)   
Chuck Hagel (Former Republican Senator NE, currently on his way to Obama's cabinet)   
Richard Lugar (Former Senator of Indiana)   
John McCain (R-AZ)   
Susan Collins (R-ME)
You clearly don't understand how political ideology works. There are Democrats and Republicans spread out through the entire spectrum, including extremes and moderates on both sides.

To answer your question:

Lee Terry (R-NE)
Chuck Hagel (Former Republican Senator NE, currently on his way to Obama's cabinet)
Richard Lugar (Former Senator of Indiana)
John McCain (R-AZ)
Susan Collins (R-ME)
#263 to #206 - PiMaker (01/27/2013) [-]
okay, now name some extreme democrats
#266 to #263 - pooflinger (01/27/2013) [-]
Harry Reid (D-NV)
Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)

And based on the diagram to the left, Stalin, Putin, Mao, and Marx.

Again, there are extremes to both parties, and bad people on both sides of the spectrum.

Note where freedom is placed on the diagram
User avatar #123 to #113 - neutralgray (01/27/2013) [-]
Oh, look. A prime example of " ******* things up."
User avatar #192 to #123 - neutralgray (01/27/2013) [-]
I got to be honest, I'm really not sure why I'm being thumbed down here.
User avatar #164 - durkadurka ONLINE (01/27/2013) [-]
People like Bloomberg who ban things like soda do so because they believe the people cannot make good choices for themselves. They believe they are better than the rest of us, for whatever reason, and therefore they have the right and obligation to tell others how to live. They think they know what's best for everyone else. The only solution is to vote them out of office.
#134 - chubberbrother (01/27/2013) [-]
MFW comment section.
MFW comment section.
#137 - anon (01/27/2013) [-]
If i wanna drink poison, it's my body and my right.
if you wanna have an abortion, go ahead.
but when i wanna go and rape people, all of a sudden we have a problem!
*grumble*
User avatar #157 to #137 - anonomoz (01/27/2013) [-]
its because you **** with other people
#74 - timerce (01/27/2013) [-]
i would just like to point out that no one pushed for a soda ban except bloomburg. here have an actual example of a hypocrite activist
User avatar #48 - I Am Monkey (01/27/2013) [-]
Banning large sodas comes from the same ******* school of thought that wants to ban large magazines in guns. It completely collapses under the slightest bit of critical thinking. When the soda ban goes into effect here in New York I'm just going to buy 2 sodas if I'm really thirsty. When that nutcase shot up Virginia Tech he didn't say "Magazines can only hold 10 bullets, looks like I'm only shooting 10 people" he brought 17 ******* magazines and fired every single one of them anyway. Bans like these accomplish absolutely nothing.
#60 to #48 - frink (01/27/2013) [-]
And I'm pretty sure it would be easy to make your own extended magazine, if one would really want to.
#92 to #60 - dirtyharold (01/27/2013) [-]
MAKE IT!?! **** man do you know how complicated that is? Here let me pull the tools knowledge and material straight out of my ass.
#21 - Aleafe (01/27/2013) [-]
MFW people finnaly snap on these faggots
MFW people finnaly snap on these faggots
#114 - anon (01/27/2013) [-]
The stupidity in this thread, it burns
#84 - kaldarvonlupo ONLINE (01/27/2013) [-]
>read comments
>"her"
>MFW I thought it was a man all this time
User avatar #32 - breakfastskippa (01/27/2013) [-]
Whoa that kid just shot up a school, he also played grand theft auto

Poor kid, another victim to video game violence.
#91 - anon (01/27/2013) [-]
I hate Liberals like this. It makes me ashamed to be one.
User avatar #98 to #91 - garykn (01/27/2013) [-]
I feel the same way when a retarded conservative opens their mouth.
#51 - pyra (01/27/2013) [-]
#43 - lordraine (01/27/2013) [-]
Hermione's been hitting the weed pretty hard lately.
#58 to #43 - urapooper (01/27/2013) [-]
Ill thumb you up for being the first comment to actually make me laugh in this post
#52 - lincey (01/27/2013) [-]
#209 - Wumbologist (01/27/2013) [-]
I...I can't think of a single liberal who believes soda should be banned. We're talking about the same folks who want pot legalized, remember?
User avatar #214 to #209 - elmexicangato (01/27/2013) [-]
Michelle Obama.
#225 to #214 - UnoSkullmanx (01/27/2013) [-]
She's a DEMOCRAT, not a Liberal. They're not at all the same thing.
User avatar #234 to #225 - konradkurze (01/27/2013) [-]
democracy is about people's freedom, thus liberal
#239 to #234 - UnoSkullmanx (01/27/2013) [-]
YOU are what's wrong with politics.

So the democrats are about protecting freedoms, yet they want guns banned, soda banned, fat food banned, etc.? They want to ban things, and protect your freedoms at the same time? Are you that stupid?
User avatar #240 to #239 - konradkurze (01/27/2013) [-]
i didnt say politicians were about people freedom
politicians **** the politics up by warping how they are applied
#244 to #240 - UnoSkullmanx (01/27/2013) [-]
"democracy is about people's freedom"
"i didnt say politicians were about people freedom"

You just contradicted yourself in less than 10 seconds. That has to be a record.
User avatar #252 to #244 - konradkurze (01/27/2013) [-]
oh so adding a fact that politicians **** up the very system they pretend to follow is contradicting?
are you a blind sheep you unquestioningly obeys the leaders?

true democracy is about the freedom of the people and proper decisions are made on the vote of the majority
BUT
the system almost never actually follows that political process, and only occasionaly makes a show of it after they have made efforts to shepard towards what end they want
like the current situation....americans on their own would never majority vote to ban guns, so the us government is creating fake shootings to scare the people enough to make them more pliant towards voting gun control
#211 to #209 - boomhauer (01/27/2013) [-]
bloomberg in new york
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