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#132 - allamericandude ONLINE (01/26/2013) [-]
Clearly you've never played DCS: A-10C. It is literally the most realistic ******* game I've ever seen.

Like, when you start a mission, they put you on the ramp in a stone dead aircraft, and you have to start it up--the engines, the electronics, weapons systems, navigation, etc.

A ******* start-up sequence. In a game, man. I had to take ******* notes.

And that's just to get it off the ground.
User avatar #199 to #132 - saddestofbreads (01/26/2013) [-]
You've never played DCS: Black Shark I take it. It's like A-10C, but with a helicopter.
User avatar #226 to #199 - tkfourtwoone (01/26/2013) [-]
I was just about to say that. Also, in IL-2 Sturmovik, getting a bomber off the ground was a pain in the ass, if I remember correctly
User avatar #143 to #132 - justadude (01/26/2013) [-]
I love the sounds of APU startups in jets.
User avatar #161 to #132 - Dairycow (01/26/2013) [-]
^This guy know's what hes talking about, ******* most complex game I've ever seen in my years of existence.

i literally had to write down the start up sequence from button to button so i would know how to just start the goddamn plane, i think it was like 50 steps. and that's just getting the goddamn thing off the ground. i'm still trying to figure out how to use all the weapons system's.
#16 - nothereover (01/26/2013) [-]
That faggot 			****		 you drew representing Dwarf Fortress is not a proper function of Y.   
Your argument is invalid.
That faggot **** you drew representing Dwarf Fortress is not a proper function of Y.
Your argument is invalid.
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User avatar #91 to #16 - jdboi (01/26/2013) [-]
Line Test FTW
#389 to #338 - riddlerboy (01/26/2013) [-]
Higher resolution for anyone that wants it as a background
#203 - usarrr (01/26/2013) [-]
more like that

*enlarge
User avatar #218 to #203 - ROFL (01/26/2013) [-]
love it
#164 - draqoeus (01/26/2013) [-]
Hah
#185 to #164 - mynsfwaccounth (01/26/2013) [-]
The Dota learning curve just ovrpowers all of these lol.
User avatar #188 to #164 - xgeneration (01/26/2013) [-]
dota's not that hard to learn.
took me 1 day.
#372 to #188 - anon (01/26/2013) [-]
You dont learn dota type games in one day. ******* liar, go kill yourself.
User avatar #439 to #372 - xgeneration (01/26/2013) [-]
But I played Dota since it was in the Warcraft 3 era, I just stopped for awhile.
User avatar #189 to #188 - draqoeus (01/26/2013) [-]
I'm not saying it's hard, y'know
#171 to #167 - kraetyz (01/26/2013) [-]
Link to original video? I can't remember what it's called.
#173 to #172 - kraetyz (01/26/2013) [-]
tyty
#374 - AngryPlatypus (01/26/2013) [-]
No Dark Souls?
User avatar #478 to #374 - trostell (01/29/2013) [-]
Except Dark Souls is only "hard" in the sense that it limits the player, instead of actually being difficult for the average player like, say, ArmA 2 multiplayer.
User avatar #375 to #374 - Vpirate (01/26/2013) [-]
Dark Souls just goes straight up.
#378 to #375 - AngryPlatypus (01/26/2013) [-]
And then you hit Ornstein & Smough, and it does a backflip and a loop-the-loop before going off the charts.
#479 to #378 - anon (01/29/2013) [-]
Seriously? One of the easiest fights.
#376 to #375 - anon (01/26/2013) [-]
then evens out at about half of DF
User avatar #379 to #374 - lostluke (01/26/2013) [-]
I'd say it's more knowledge than skill based though, I mean you need skill to play it but when you know what the ***** going on it gets much easier!
User avatar #384 to #379 - AngryPlatypus (01/26/2013) [-]
And that is why the learning curve is so great. You actually have to see an enemy, pay attention to everything it could possibly throw at you, and plan ahead. You can't just breeze through the game just because you have "skill." You have to play it carefully and pay attention, and many people don't like it because of that.
User avatar #388 to #384 - lostluke (01/26/2013) [-]
But it was a curve for skill and not knowledge? I think the skill level goes down as you learn more (Not saying it's easy in any way) I personally love the fact it does this and that's why it's one of the best games ever
User avatar #391 to #388 - AngryPlatypus (01/26/2013) [-]
I suppose so, you win.
User avatar #393 to #391 - lostluke (01/26/2013) [-]
Not to say knowledge isn't a kind of skill you acquire from using other skills in the game, so you could also look at needing multiple lines!
User avatar #397 to #393 - AngryPlatypus (01/26/2013) [-]
I think you may actually be on to something here.
User avatar #4 - shinigamigod ONLINE (01/25/2013) [-]
Whoever put the starcraft line has clearly someone who has never gotten out of gold.
#216 to #4 - hypex (01/26/2013) [-]
i got this explained to me by a japanese dude i know who plays WAY too much starcraft

US gold = europe bronze
europe gold = asia bronze

(inb4 flamewar eu/us)
User avatar #5 to #4 - Riukanojutsu (01/25/2013) [-]
ive gotten into diamond and i cant even 4 gate properly

hes right
User avatar #6 to #5 - shinigamigod ONLINE (01/25/2013) [-]
Well 4 gate is basically dead now, no more ramp warp in, its basically a free win if you play against a 4 gate, only way to lose it is if you play greedy and don't get sentries out in time to FF
User avatar #8 to #6 - Riukanojutsu (01/25/2013) [-]
i dont play anymore, when i ws playing 4 gates were efficient
User avatar #18 to #8 - scooba (01/26/2013) [-]
Back when 4 gate was still viable it would get crushed by Terran air. Heart of the Swarm Protoss got some nice air unit additions, however, making air Terran harder, but still probably the best option.
User avatar #20 to #18 - Riukanojutsu (01/26/2013) [-]
missingthepoint.jpg
#169 - zakaizer (01/26/2013) [-]
My dad tried dwarf fortress, and he got the hang of it in about an hour, and I was just sat there constantly with my brain melting on the floor... How the **** do you understand any of it?
User avatar #415 to #169 - iaminfactawizard (01/26/2013) [-]
How to Play Dwarf Fortress:

1. Generate World.
2. Quick Start.
3. Fail, die.
4. Generate World.
5. Prepare carefully for the journey.
6. Fail, die.
7. Generate World
8. Skim guide while world loads.
9. Prepare carefully for the journey.
10. Forget something, alt-tab.
11. Too late, fail, die.
12. Generate World
13. Pore over guide for an hour.
14. Prepare carefully for the journey, really ******* carefully.
15. Spend ~30 minutes picking a site.
16. Pause on embark, recon.
17. Dig base.
18. Fail, die.

Keep in mind that this is "fun".
#170 to #169 - kraetyz (01/26/2013) [-]
Read a guide. It helps.
#193 to #169 - anon (01/26/2013) [-]
If you have played one sandbox game like DF, it doesn't take long to understand the others.
User avatar #192 to #169 - Lainge (01/26/2013) [-]
your dad is a ******* wizard that's all
#73 - rudianos (01/26/2013) [-]
Eve online actually.
#176 to #73 - noobiereaper (01/26/2013) [-]
And let us not forget Dark Souls xD
User avatar #186 to #73 - burnoutlegend (01/26/2013) [-]
Do you play EVE?
#432 to #186 - rudianos (01/26/2013) [-]
stopped a while ago, gallente pilot pvp, cant remember sp maybe 40million. fuilly trained up to a kronos. wbu?
User avatar #440 to #432 - burnoutlegend (01/26/2013) [-]
Just got in a tengu, 6.5million sp going to be training for a capital ship next after i get some money from ratting and i decide which one i actually want to have, im thinking chimera but im not too sure, though, the moros is tempting :) but many of my corp mates dont really have a large plethora of info on dreadnoughts, most are jf and carrier pilots...
#444 to #440 - rudianos (01/26/2013) [-]
got to have a good corp to support such an asset. dont want them getting it killed ye know. you in 0.0 yet?
User avatar #447 to #444 - burnoutlegend (01/26/2013) [-]
Yeah im getting carrier jumped down to my null system this in the next week, and my alliance is full of people i have been playing with for a good 6 months, and we are friends with a few big alliances because of our BPO's for stations and well, since goons ruined a bunch of systems we're getting paid a few billion for stations, still working on the first one though, jeez do they need a lot of materials...
#448 to #447 - rudianos (01/27/2013) [-]
yeah but we leave that to the miners, the only involvement i ever had with industrials was from being in their escorts or mining protection. enjoy. Damm you make me miss the game now :(
User avatar #456 to #448 - burnoutlegend (01/27/2013) [-]
The only involvement i have with anything industrial is my noctis so i can salvage sites when i clear them :) and well the 15 or so miners in my alliance that swarm bs rats with like 30 drones and the bs is just taking the drones so they call me in and there is just a big cluster **** of ships all bumping about in complete chaos because a single rat turned up at the belt...
#75 - thamuz (01/26/2013) [-]
Hah that steep one is Eve Online and you know it.


And Im pissed cause I just lost 100M in implants..Again. Back to Hek!
#76 to #75 - lordcaboose (01/26/2013) [-]
I used to play EVE and I feel your pain.
#77 to #76 - thamuz (01/26/2013) [-]
Well,I got popped in WH space in my Procurer(best barge for the buck). Stupid me didnt make it unprobable. I should have done the ECCM/Warp Core Stab build I have. But I did kick the **** out of a hound before I blew up.

But I just cant believe it took a Hound,Rook,Proteus,Sabre and a Cynable to kill me. Go awesome resits! Bastards didnt even give me back my clone...
User avatar #107 to #77 - Rockaman ONLINE (01/26/2013) [-]
If you want crazy resists + tank, just look to the Navy Scorpion! 8 mids and a 5% per lvl to resists in Caldari BS
#112 to #107 - thamuz (01/26/2013) [-]
Trust in the rust baby. Im minmatar right now. I cant fly Caldari BS's yet. Im working to a Kitsune eventually.

Dat pricetag on the Navy Scorp..shes a sexy ship,but a very ugly price tag on her.
#117 to #112 - unrealsin (01/26/2013) [-]
MFW I was reading this whole convo....
#119 to #117 - thamuz (01/26/2013) [-]
You are more than welcome to join us.

We can make you..immortal. As long as you are willing to pay the price.
User avatar #120 to #119 - unrealsin (01/26/2013) [-]
Wut price?
#127 to #120 - Rockaman ONLINE (01/26/2013) [-]
Your Soul!
#453 to #120 - thamuz (01/27/2013) [-]
Your morals,and the will to do whatever it takes to win. It is all we ask. Oh,and of course a strict dose of common sense.
Your morals,and the will to do whatever it takes to win. It is all we ask. Oh,and of course a strict dose of common sense.
User avatar #166 to #112 - moc (01/26/2013) [-]
for the price of a navy scorp, its better get a rattlesnake if you want tank, they are holding steady at around 500mill +- and better still is you can easilly get a passive shield tank of over 2.5 K dps while putting out over 1K dps. only thing is that its a real skill intensive ship, your going to need maxed out or damn near maxed out drone skills to fly properly. another thing is if you need isk, incursions! HQ sites pay 31.5 mill a site and 7K LP average site in a good fleet is about 15 mins or so
#452 to #166 - thamuz (01/27/2013) [-]
The Typhoon is without a doubt,the *most* skill point intensive ship in the game(at least for its tier) You literally need almost all your skills at 5 just to fit it decently,and even more so to tank it well.

I <3 my Phoon,but shes a hanger bitch. The Tempest gets the workout.
User avatar #460 to #452 - moc (01/27/2013) [-]
only till the proposed changes they have in store for it, the phoon is going to be changed from a neut/torp/AC boat to have only one form of DPS
#470 to #460 - thamuz (01/27/2013) [-]
Just what we need. Another cruise missile hurling boat. People kept QQing that the Phoon is too hard to fly and now we get another Raven.   
   
I dont think we need anymore Ravens.
Just what we need. Another cruise missile hurling boat. People kept QQing that the Phoon is too hard to fly and now we get another Raven.

I dont think we need anymore Ravens.
User avatar #126 to #112 - Rockaman ONLINE (01/26/2013) [-]
Mostly fly Winmatar ships myself - they're so rewarding and there's no easy-mode button like Caldari have
User avatar #451 to #126 - thamuz (01/27/2013) [-]
The Caldari are just jealous because they dont know how guns work,so they just throw missiles at your face.

The Gallente..well,I dont really know what to think of their phallus shaped ships.

The Ammarians have a real thing for birds. Is it always thanksgiving over there?

We Winmatar took all their garbage,and a soldering iron and managed to patch enough of a flying scrapheap to get it to space. And kick ass with it.
User avatar #80 to #75 - moc (01/26/2013) [-]
Hek, well theres your problem!
#81 to #80 - thamuz (01/26/2013) [-]
I would rather go to Hek. I hate Jita..and Rens..and Amarr...I do like Tash Murkon..Nice and usually quiet there..
User avatar #82 to #81 - moc (01/26/2013) [-]
amarr's rather quiet, i use it as my home station
#83 to #82 - thamuz (01/26/2013) [-]
Am I thinking of the right Amarr? I know Im thinkin of the one major tradehub(bigger than Tash but not as big as Hek or Jita)
User avatar #165 to #83 - moc (01/26/2013) [-]
yeah, amarr the system (amarrian's homesystem) its the 2nd largest trade hub (because of how close it ts to jita)
User avatar #90 to #75 - angeredsasuke (01/26/2013) [-]
Lol wait until you loses a 26B capital ship in dead space.
#125 to #90 - chimeechang (01/26/2013) [-]
i found the person that has never lost a capital ship, doesn't know what DeadSpace is in eve(And if you lose a capital ship here, you should just kill yourself) ntry tho
#98 to #90 - thamuz (01/26/2013) [-]
Well,I have about 1.6B in ships..Not one ship..I cant afford a Carrier yet.. My next project is an arty shield Loki.
#100 to #98 - angeredsasuke (01/26/2013) [-]
You a PvPer?
#101 to #100 - thamuz (01/26/2013) [-]
On occasion. Right now Im building my core skills(and my industrial backing) so I can afford to pvp more. It took 5-6 ships to blow up my barge this morning. And that was just a Procurer.

I am a bomber jockey,I just havent had the money to afford a new bomber since I lost my old one to a sleeper scram
User avatar #187 to #75 - burnoutlegend (01/26/2013) [-]
I just got in a tengu :3
#323 to #187 - thamuz (01/26/2013) [-]
I hate the Drake,so Ill probably hate the the Tengu.

Im working to a Loki.
User avatar #425 to #323 - burnoutlegend (01/26/2013) [-]
The tengu is a hell of a lot different to the tengu, the tengu is just a machine when it comes to ratting, which is my favorite pass time on eve, especially when i'm in null, mining's all well and good to make a ton of money but in the end you still need to get up to a trade hub to make a lot of iskies. but hey, if you are a minmatar pilot then go ahead :)
#454 to #425 - thamuz (01/27/2013) [-]
I hear lots of love for the Tengu,and I have seen what they are capable of. But I just don't like missiles that much.   
   
And the proteus looks like a space penis. Like 95% of Gallente ships
I hear lots of love for the Tengu,and I have seen what they are capable of. But I just don't like missiles that much.

And the proteus looks like a space penis. Like 95% of Gallente ships
User avatar #457 to #454 - burnoutlegend (01/27/2013) [-]
Yeah the proteus can tank really well, its just missiles are basically easy mode on eve ^^
User avatar #296 to #75 - zoidz (01/26/2013) [-]
I was wanting to play EVE Online but then I heard that it was a monthly sub (not able to do so) and that you have to slave yourself to get into things, but after you get into a big...Alliance? The game basically becomes free. Could someone explain that to me? (Do they sell the in-game money and give you some or...?
#321 to #296 - thamuz (01/26/2013) [-]


1)yes and no. Theres ways you cna make it free for you(get good skills,and make lots of money,and you can buy your game time in game,right now,in my region,1 PLEX[timecard about 14.99 in USD] runs about 550M-660 million. While,it is a lot of money,you can easily make that in a few weeks with decent skills while mining or doing other things.

In eve,you are a Demigod. Immortal to most people. When you die,you are given a new life in a new body. You lose whatever you had on you,so cargo,ship,ammo,items to fit the ship with,are lost,unless you can claim them before the guy who killed you takes them.

Your skills CAN take a hit but thats if you are a tardmonkey who doesnt update his clone. I have about 5 million skill points and my clone can hold 6.1 million skill points. As long as your current clone doesnt exceed your replacement clone,you wont lose skill points when you die.

And no Im not in a very large corp or a very large alliance.
User avatar #427 to #321 - zoidz (01/26/2013) [-]
Ohhh I see...wow thats nice being able to buy game time using in-game currency. Will see if one day I can try it out...
#356 to #75 - savannahijack (01/26/2013) [-]
Here's a question. Has Funnyjunk ever had a large scale purpose Alliance for members?

I know Something awful has Goonswarm and Reddit I think has TEST.
I've been on eve for about a month or so and haven't found a solid corp with a large alliance that I want to join.
User avatar #360 to #356 - thamuz (01/26/2013) [-]
I tend to avoid large alliances for the fact I dont realy need to deal with the political drama.

Im in a fairly small alliance 14 corps make up ours.
User avatar #458 to #360 - burnoutlegend (01/27/2013) [-]
Im currently in a new alliance and we are in nulli's space and have taken 2 systems already, to bad the rent is going to be a bitch to get every month, its something like 5-6 billion isk :(
User avatar #471 to #458 - thamuz (01/27/2013) [-]
Hoope you guys can come up with that kind of cash,else it would be very sticky
User avatar #472 to #471 - burnoutlegend (01/27/2013) [-]
Yeah, the ratting is good and our miners well...mine, so we just keep in the grove of things we can have the isk within a couple days, then its all ours for the taking.
User avatar #473 to #472 - thamuz (01/27/2013) [-]
Yeah we lost our hole,tower,everything last night apparently. Oh well. **** happens.
User avatar #474 to #473 - burnoutlegend (01/27/2013) [-]
Sheit man, what was the loss?
User avatar #477 to #474 - thamuz (01/28/2013) [-]
So far as far as I know,one Orca,One pod,and one ship hangar.
User avatar #362 to #360 - savannahijack (01/26/2013) [-]
So FJ has never organized its own corps and alliances?
#366 to #362 - thamuz (01/26/2013) [-]
as far as I know theres only a few of us who play eve online.
User avatar #368 to #366 - savannahijack (01/26/2013) [-]
pity...
User avatar #461 to #368 - moc (01/27/2013) [-]
too many people here think its too hard. (low IQ i guess)
User avatar #462 to #461 - savannahijack (01/27/2013) [-]
If you don't find a good group of people to play with, the game will get extremely tiresome. I haven't managed to find a lively enough crowd to play with, so I am thinking of leaving the game, That or selling my soul to Goonswarm or getting back into Flying Dangerous again, they all seem to be bastards.
User avatar #463 to #462 - moc (01/27/2013) [-]
well i fly with TVP, just a bunch of carebears getting isk
User avatar #464 to #463 - savannahijack (01/27/2013) [-]
What are they miners?
User avatar #465 to #464 - moc (01/27/2013) [-]
nah incursion runners (90% are alts though)
User avatar #466 to #465 - savannahijack (01/27/2013) [-]
meh, I don't have a big enough ship yet for that.
User avatar #467 to #466 - moc (01/27/2013) [-]
Battleship, T2 tank, and meta 4 guns is minmal
User avatar #468 to #467 - savannahijack (01/27/2013) [-]
well I guess I could afford it, Just dont have the skills yet
User avatar #469 to #468 - moc (01/27/2013) [-]
ahh
#134 - fauxshores ONLINE (01/26/2013) [-]
User avatar #146 to #134 - sonoobish ONLINE (01/26/2013) [-]
i have one problem with this...
the line should be much more vertical, anyways thumb
#382 to #134 - anon (01/26/2013) [-]
you seem to be misunderstanding the simplicity of starcraft. perhaps you should try to actually play dwarf fortress instead of fooling around in adventure mode.
User avatar #455 to #382 - fauxshores ONLINE (01/27/2013) [-]
If you think SC is a simple game you are so lost
#168 - Airmanator (01/26/2013) [-]
You left out EVE Online. It's difficult, but the game's mechanics become clear in time. Five years and three boxing like a champ.

Inb4GoonSwarm.
#183 to #168 - nobleknight ONLINE (01/26/2013) [-]
Oh God Goonswarm...Still feel for them at the loss of their Diplo..
User avatar #350 to #183 - savannahijack (01/26/2013) [-]
The vile rat guy?
#433 to #350 - nobleknight ONLINE (01/26/2013) [-]
Yeah him. He was one of the US Diplos in Libya that got killed in the attack. He was a real life friend of Mittani.
User avatar #435 to #433 - savannahijack (01/26/2013) [-]
Damn that's a hard hit for them
#436 to #435 - nobleknight ONLINE (01/26/2013) [-]
Yeah the considering the last message Mittani ever received from him was "GUNFIRE"
#438 to #437 - nobleknight ONLINE (01/26/2013) [-]
Yeah, I honestly felt bad for him. I was so angry to have a member of EVE die like that. It's like we lost one of us ya know? Im not even in Goonswarm.
#238 - thechosentroll (01/26/2013) [-]
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Reminds me of how I was playing it yesterday and 5 dwarves died because of a piece of cloth. I think there was a Murphy law about this. If you're prepared for every possible way that things can go wrong, then a new way will pop up that you can't prevent.
#212 - aesgard ONLINE (01/26/2013) [-]
User avatar #195 - goldenglimmer ONLINE (01/26/2013) [-]
What the hell. Apparently, if you play DF, you will at one point actually experience some sort of temporal shift and travel to the past. In addition, the game has the ability to exist in two or even three different difficulty states (y-axis) in the same x-coordinate, in other words, at the same time.

Conclusion: Dwarf Fortress is some quantum **** , yo.
User avatar #200 to #195 - Shaostoul (01/26/2013) [-]
It's true... I swear to god from my initial picking up the game to my now many years of experience with it... It's true. I almost want to say the starting point should possibly be even higher though. :/
#86 - aetherpig (01/26/2013) [-]
I don't remember my time warp being nearly that large when learning how to play
Dwarf Fortress

Did I do something wrong?
#122 - bigmanblue ONLINE (01/26/2013) [-]
starcraft is a hell of a lot steeper then that
and as for halo
it should have a peak right at the end where you get the sad ass bxr and double tap users
#1 - orendil (01/25/2013) [-]
WoW Now a days is more like a straight line on the bottom.
#23 to #1 - warrollan (01/26/2013) [-]
PvP noobs. PvE has, and always will be easy. Faggots.
User avatar #9 to #1 - eopfroggr (01/25/2013) [-]
Every since that dungeon queue **** . All it is is dungeon grind till endgame and that takes less than a month if you're good.

Me and all my friends played in BC and over the summer we all hopped on, me and another friend went on vacation for 6 days came back friends went from 40-70s including college classes and work.
#148 to #9 - orendil (01/26/2013) [-]
You can get to 90 in about a week by following the right quests +The recruit a friend crap REALLY speeds it up. And it's not only the leveling. The raids now are easier than punching helpless blind puppies who have no feet. It's so easy and messed up you feel more bad than good. (Not even a hint of enjoyment...) And note. Someone must have been butt hurt and thumbed you down a few times, sorry mate.
User avatar #163 to #148 - eopfroggr (01/26/2013) [-]
I can't say I care much about thumbs. It's all good
User avatar #2 to #1 - lothet (01/25/2013) [-]
which is going downwards....
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