pirate. . Wow, this g is realle gca: ozil T must buy thia track because the artist did such a. We are mug, but due to vitsi. rm : . t. distrac. k is. "Wow, this song is really good! I must buy this track because the artist did such a fine job!" -Said Literally No One, Ever


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#86 - grimmwaters ONLINE (01/23/2013) [-]
Boy, do I love shopping
Boy, do I love shopping
#35 - Chitzu (01/23/2013) [-]
I remember one time I really wanted to see "Butterfly effect". It was my favorite movie at the time and I had seen it once before. I had the DVD on the other side of my room, but I was too lazy to get it. So I pirated it. That's like extreme laziness right there.
User avatar #66 to #35 - nogphille (01/23/2013) [-]
same, i have an immense amount of movies.. when i see a movie i've watched and think: "that was a pretty good one, i'll probably want to watch it again someday", i buy it.

my collection's gotten so big that i can't be arsed to look through it to find the movie i want to watch, so i just pirate them..
#1 - riddari (01/22/2013) [-]
Well, I think piracy is not immoral if the availability is the main issue about obtaining content. Also, it's fine if a part of the supplied content is not intended for your country.
For example, in Poland GTA 4 was sold for a full retail price on PC, despite Games For Windows Live not being introduced yet (in other words, if you didn't give fake info in registration, which is a violation of EULA, you couldn't save the game or play multiplayer).

TL:DR: **** GFWL.
User avatar #65 to #1 - keiishiyama (01/23/2013) [-]
I have a constantly expanding collection of CDs that currently hovers around 50 albums. Piracy is literally the ONLY way to get what CDs I can't in a way I trust.
#20 to #1 - frink (01/23/2013) [-]
I have to agree. There are a lot of movies I would like to see, but they aren't "popular" enough to be on Netflix or other streaming sites. With the demise of video rental stores, I loved Hollywood Video, it is near impossible to find old movies. Plus the only movies you can buy in stores are less than 5 years old. Even if I want to pirate an older movie it still is near impossible because no one is seeding it.
User avatar #62 to #20 - nogphille (01/23/2013) [-]
you can still find older movies that are worthwhile on streaming sites or downloadsites..
you'll just have to put a little bit more effort into finding them..
#181 to #62 - frink (01/24/2013) [-]
Yep I do that as well. I just like downloading, the quality is usually better and I don't have to wait for it to buffer on a crappy video player.
#7 - sorenlolz (01/23/2013) [-]
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#9 to #7 - trimageryan (01/23/2013) [-]
I don't know what's going on but I thought you might like this.

Also, you look lovely today, don't change a thing. You are fantastic.
#10 to #9 - sorenlolz (01/23/2013) [-]
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1. he said territory so I thought of this 2. MFW I see you looking in my window.
User avatar #19 - infinitereaper (01/23/2013) [-]
Honestly morality is overrated and I've never had a problem with piracy. Growing up never being able to have the things you want long enough and you stop caring. That being said, I do buy a few things and give some support. I promise myself when I'm no longer a poor **** I'll get everything properly. All that aside, it's kind of a pain in the ass to get what you want though. I mean why the hell should I jump through 7 hoops when I can just download it lightning fast?

If companies want piracy to lessen they need to both improve availability and stop with outrageous prices heavily driven by either greed or brand. Everything comes with cost but honestly, Iots of games these days aren't worth their budgets in the first place.
User avatar #44 to #19 - daentraya (01/23/2013) [-]
Indeed. Since i cant pay over the internet without borrowing my moms card, it really cant be arsed. And since i usually listen to whatever songs from across albums, buying the albums themselves is not my preferred way. If i could just say easily 'here band, have a handful of money. Ill just download the songs i need now. Keep up the good work'
User avatar #128 to #19 - ayenon (01/23/2013) [-]
>company makes new game
>sells for overhigh price of $120
>average person can't afford latest games
>smaller profit for company as less people are able to buy
>company blames piracy
#147 to #19 - fractalius (01/23/2013) [-]
Also, just a little known fact, that 90% of popular artists make no money from selling their music. They profit from concerts and publicity, their record label profits from the selling on iTunes.

Indirectly, pirating = less major record label countries = less ****** artists.

(I know that logic is flawed. But it's amusing nonetheless)
#129 - guidoforlife (01/23/2013) [-]
"Wow, this song is really good! I must buy this track because the artist did such a fine job!"   
-Said Literally No One, Ever
"Wow, this song is really good! I must buy this track because the artist did such a fine job!"

-Said Literally No One, Ever
#148 to #129 - Konigsteiger (01/23/2013) [-]
That's not true. I respect the band Týr, and I like to support them. So I have bought all of their albums instead of hunting for a download. Hail to the gods and their glorious viking metal!
User avatar #158 to #129 - nalenthi (01/23/2013) [-]
If I really love a song and the artist isn't some big name with a lot of money, then I'll pay for a song. I know the life of a musician that doesn't make it big is hard.
User avatar #160 to #129 - subcelestial ONLINE (01/23/2013) [-]
I've recently bought my first album in years. And it's not because the artist just happens to be one of my best friends. She's genuinely talented.
#171 to #129 - kampi (01/23/2013) [-]
I did.
I did.
User avatar #159 to #129 - guidoforlife (01/23/2013) [-]
omg guys, I'm joking. I support the artists I like too, i just thought it was funny that the comic said those words so deliberately haha damn
#131 to #129 - underlois ONLINE (01/23/2013) [-]
Use this the next time

Still funny anyways
User avatar #138 to #131 - guidoforlife (01/23/2013) [-]
#134 to #129 - anon (01/23/2013) [-]
I do that...
I even have a list over albums I'm going to buy when I have the money
User avatar #139 to #129 - xldarkking (01/23/2013) [-]
I only buy music if i respect the artist for the work they put into it. If its some rich asshole then ill do it illegally. But there comes a time when you gotta buy it because they deserve they (little) money they get from it.
#150 to #139 - steininja (01/23/2013) [-]
If you buy the track/album directly from the bands homepage (assuming they have one) they will get a higher percentage than from amazon, itunes store og just your local cd-store.
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User avatar #15 - ferruccio (01/23/2013) [-]
1. Search the song on YouTube
2. Copy the link
3. Go to flvto.com
4. Paste the link
5. Download mp3 converted file
6. ???????
7. Profit
User avatar #16 to #15 - hydraetis (01/23/2013) [-]
unless it's a popular song generally if you get it off of youtube it'll be **** quality
User avatar #17 to #16 - ferruccio (01/23/2013) [-]
No one should complain about free stuff.
#24 to #15 - anon (01/23/2013) [-]
Or just simply get freecorder and convert the downloaded file into an mp3 with no quality loss.
User avatar #18 to #15 - infinitereaper (01/23/2013) [-]

Terrifying quality. Not worth it at all. Stick with mp3 raid or skull mp3 or something.
User avatar #29 to #18 - ishalltroll (01/23/2013) [-]
**** MP3. 912 Bit/s .flac ftw.
User avatar #22 to #18 - fudginghell (01/23/2013) [-]
offliberty.com Best website I have used so far.
User avatar #28 to #15 - jibb (01/23/2013) [-]
You need to login to view this link
Awesome MP3 site, change language to english first
User avatar #26 to #15 - joshofsouls (01/23/2013) [-]
Disgusting quality.
I use Youtube2Mp3, it's got pretty high quality, and if I'm not satisfied with it I just download the video and convert it myself using Camtasia studio .
User avatar #124 to #26 - pokemonstheshiz (01/23/2013) [-]
video2mp3.net has pretty good quality most of the time
User avatar #76 to #26 - tmgrskat (01/23/2013) [-]
Camtasia -.-
User avatar #82 to #76 - joshofsouls (01/23/2013) [-]
Am I sensing some hostility towards Camtasia?
User avatar #83 to #82 - tmgrskat (01/23/2013) [-]
Maaaybe. :D
User avatar #84 to #83 - joshofsouls (01/23/2013) [-]
I love Camtasia Studio, it's quite nice. It records, it edits, and I can convert things to gif and several different Audio formats.
#85 to #84 - tmgrskat (01/23/2013) [-]
Well... I don't like it.
User avatar #87 to #85 - joshofsouls (01/23/2013) [-]
What don't you like about it?
User avatar #180 to #87 - tmgrskat (01/23/2013) [-]
It's amateurish, in my opinion.
#51 to #26 - anon (01/23/2013) [-]
Honestly, you can't get good quality off of Youtube.
User avatar #59 to #51 - joshofsouls (01/23/2013) [-]
That't not really true, a lot of songs from official channels are really good quality.
#36 - felixjarl ONLINE (01/23/2013) [-]
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Piracy is not a question of morals. It is a question of what that is the easiest and the cheapest.
#100 to #36 - tecnoturc (01/23/2013) [-]
laws are based on morals. took a class on it.
User avatar #137 to #36 - thedarkhavok (01/23/2013) [-]
How did such a ******* moronic comment get any thumbs at all? The ease is at the detriment of morality.
#74 to #36 - mmajunkie (01/23/2013) [-]
With that same logic, it is okay to steal from people and businesses.  If you steal from a local business, or a person, is it not immoral?    
			*******		 logic, son
With that same logic, it is okay to steal from people and businesses. If you steal from a local business, or a person, is it not immoral?

******* logic, son
User avatar #102 to #74 - mcatheistnuggets (01/23/2013) [-]
It's also a question of whether or not you are really stealing something. Piracy is just making a copy of the original. I also do not believe in the ownership of ideas, plenty of people can have the same idea, without having to get it from someone else, ergo no one owns their own thoughts. So in extension, you cannot own any one idea, or concept.
#105 to #102 - mmajunkie (01/23/2013) [-]
The Patent division would disagree with your thoughts on owning a 'concept'. Pirating is stealing because you are acquiring freely what cost money to produce. If the movie is released free of charge (like at a film festival) than there would be no rights to the movie to defend; but since piracy usually involved blockbuster movies-that makes no sense.

e.g. Your logic would deduce that taking currency notes from an individual isn't stealing because that money is just an idea/concept that someone invented; which according to you cannot be owned.

pic unrelated
User avatar #109 to #105 - mcatheistnuggets (01/23/2013) [-]
No, stealing currency is different, as you are stealing a physical object that represents the concept of value. Key word being physical object, I can't just say I gave you $5, I actually have to give you the note. If you can make an exact copy of something without affecting the value of the original, then morality makes no difference. I will agree that it does cost money to produce it, but after that, it takes no effort, nor money to make copies. My main point, is that if they charged less, they would sell more, but until they charge less, I will not pay for it. That's as far as music goes.

As far as patents on inventions go, they are totally retarded, they limit innovation by restricting the tools that another company can work with without paying royalties. Everyone (Apple and Samsung) get pissed off when you use an idea of theirs without paying for it. It's just ******* ridiculous. That's like if me and Karl Marx had the same idea about the same time, and I put a patent on socialism, Karl Marx would have to pay me to talk about it and write about it. It's the same ******* concept, applied to physical objects.
User avatar #115 to #109 - mmajunkie (01/23/2013) [-]
I honestly cannot understand how you are justifying pirating because it is 'free to make a copy'... That is the silliest argument I've ever heard. It's free to strangle someone to death, so is it therefore morally okay? No... What in the almighty **** are you actually talking about, son?
User avatar #118 to #115 - mcatheistnuggets (01/23/2013) [-]
Is it hurting anyone that I make a ******* copy of a song? No, it doesn't, these guys are already rich, do I buy music, yes I do, but only from artists I really like, and want to support. I am not going to pay to support Lil Wayne's Drug habits by buying his music, he should be thankful I am doing him a favor.
User avatar #120 to #118 - mmajunkie (01/23/2013) [-]
So now you say you have the ultimate right and consideration of what justifies theft/piracy? ***** you just went full retard. So killing a homeless man that no one even knows or cares about is okay because it doesn't hurt anyone? Hell you're even SAVING him from his drug and alcohol addiction! GO YOU! >_>
#113 to #109 - lmh (01/23/2013) [-]
fraud then?
User avatar #114 to #113 - mcatheistnuggets (01/23/2013) [-]
Fraud is passing something off as true when it isn't to either cover your tracks for theft, or to benefit in another way. Forging documents and counterfeiting are forms of fraud. Fraud and theft are not the same, but they usually go hand in hand.
User avatar #117 to #114 - mmajunkie (01/23/2013) [-]
>cover your tracks for theft
>not the same
>cover your tracks
>not the same

User avatar #116 to #114 - mmajunkie (01/23/2013) [-]
fraud is a form of theft.
User avatar #119 to #116 - mcatheistnuggets (01/23/2013) [-]
In criminal law, a fraud is an intentional deception made for personal gain or to damage another individual; the related adjective is fraudulent. The specific legal definition varies by legal jurisdiction. Fraud is a crime, and also a civil law violation. Defrauding people or entities of money or valuables is a common purpose of fraud.

Fraud =/= theft.
User avatar #121 to #119 - mmajunkie (01/23/2013) [-]
In common usage, theft is the taking of another person's property without that person's permission or consent with the intent to deprive the rightful owner of it.[1][2] The word is also used as an informal shorthand term for some crimes against property, such as burglary, embezzlement, larceny, looting, robbery, shoplifting and fraud.

Theft isn't always covered under fraud, but fraud is always covered under theft

#122 to #121 - mcatheistnuggets (01/23/2013) [-]
*Theft isn't always covered under fraud, and fraud isn't always covered under theft.   
I could make a fraudulent claim about you with the shear purpose to discredit you and make myself look better in comparison. I gained no money, and I stole nothing, ergo no theft was committed.
*Theft isn't always covered under fraud, and fraud isn't always covered under theft.

I could make a fraudulent claim about you with the shear purpose to discredit you and make myself look better in comparison. I gained no money, and I stole nothing, ergo no theft was committed.
User avatar #166 to #122 - mmajunkie (01/23/2013) [-]
That isn't considered fraud... that is slander. You don't know anything of what you speak. I'd stop pretending to know so much, while knowing so little.
#170 to #166 - mcatheistnuggets (01/23/2013) [-]
Can't you accept the fact that there are multiple terms for everything, and some words can have different meanings based on context?    
Fraudulent - Adjective   
1. Obtained, done by, or involving deception, esp. criminal deception: "the fraudulent copying of American software".   
2. Unjustifiably claiming or being credited with particular accomplishments or qualities.   
Damn 			*****		, #learn2english.
Can't you accept the fact that there are multiple terms for everything, and some words can have different meanings based on context?

Fraudulent - Adjective
1. Obtained, done by, or involving deception, esp. criminal deception: "the fraudulent copying of American software".
2. Unjustifiably claiming or being credited with particular accomplishments or qualities.

Damn ***** , #learn2english.
User avatar #174 to #170 - mmajunkie (01/23/2013) [-]
side note: You don't even know the lrn2_____ properly... **** man, you don't know **** .
User avatar #173 to #170 - mmajunkie (01/23/2013) [-]
This entire time you're arguing what you consider to be a crime... You don't get to make that determination. Lrn2logic. It's time to stop posting now
User avatar #106 to #105 - mmajunkie (01/23/2013) [-]
#52 - pyra (01/23/2013) [-]
a lot of people tell me that piracy is bad, or look down on me for stealing stuff

and it is

but I mean, if its something I enjoy a lot, I'll go back and buy it

Most games I just rebought on steam
User avatar #53 to #52 - Lainge (01/23/2013) [-]
Yes but what about all those game you didn't buy.
You still played them.
You still used them for their intended purpose without giving back to the creators.
#55 to #53 - pyra (01/23/2013) [-]


I didn't enjoy em enough

I don't wanna pay for something I don't enjoy
User avatar #56 to #55 - Lainge (01/23/2013) [-]
That's irrelevant. You still used the service.
Say you go to an amusement park but it doesn't live up to your expectations, you can't go to the ticket stand after several hours in the park using the facilities and then say "No thanks it really wasn't that fun." and then expect them to give you a refund.
Pirating is still theft no matter what people say.
"It's just making a copy."
People who say this have no idea what they are talking about.
User avatar #60 to #56 - sausageparty (01/23/2013) [-]
In the 90's everyone I knew just kept an empty tape in their radio. When a song came on they liked they just hit record. And then made mix tapes. Most people didn't really own that much music. People just listened to the radio. So what's changed. Only that people can enjoy more while the record companies make just as much money as they always have.
Companies use aggressive marketing to try and make you buy products and then if you don't like it can you do anything about that? No. They got their money, they don't care. If I'm fooled by aggressive marketing into buying a crap product then who's the criminal?

So many companies fool people into buying things that aren't even what they claim it to be. Showing complete exaggerations of the product that doesn't even show what the product is like in reality. McDonald's, pretty much every other fast food chain, TV-Shopping channels etc. The list goes on. Are they being punished for their immoral marketing of a worthless product? No they're not. But if I don't pay for a product because I didn't like it when I tried it by downloading it, which means I wouldn't have bought it anyway, then I'm a criminal. Is that justice? No, that's power. Many companies today are a mafia with a legal department. The music industry is without question one of the worst. Often taking most of the profit from the artists.
User avatar #63 to #60 - Lainge (01/23/2013) [-]
If you buy something without actually researching the product before hand... you deserve the inferior product you got, also actually falling for marketing ploys is pathetic too.
In any case, about the taping of the music, the radio stations generally had their hosts talk over the start/(sometimes in the middle)end of the song to stop people from doing this.
Just because you didn't like something and possibly deleted it afterwards doesn't stop the fact that people use pirating to download games/etc without any intentions of buying it while fully enjoying it anyway.
#165 to #63 - anon (01/23/2013) [-]
Like I'm going to watch every ******* gameplay trailer outthere of a game to get my information wether it's good or **** .

Rather than wasting time, just try it. Delete it if it's **** , buy it, if it deserves the money.
User avatar #71 to #63 - sausageparty (01/23/2013) [-]
No it doesn't change that fact. Never said it did.
I don't buy the products that are marketed by these companies, but stupid or ignorant people might. No they don't deserve it. Being stupid or ignorant doesn't make people more deserving of being cheated.

Pirating has always had too sides too it.
Actually many of the people called "pirates" in the 18th century where only called so by the government because they refused to follow the unreasonable rules that the governments passed about international trading. Often the different governments would just pass toll and trading laws to hurt the companies of specific countries because of the competitive mentality that reigned between the different royal families.
Many of the "pirates" actually just tried to sail past the control point undetected so they could get their merchandise into the country without having to pay a huge and unreasonable fine. That was their only crime. The military treated them like they were the scum of the earth and often just executed them when they were caught, so naturally they would try to defend themselves when getting caught by a navy ship.

This is similar to the situation today. Many of the people called internet "pirates" are just people who refuse to bend over and take it in the ass by the record industry.
User avatar #179 to #71 - Lainge (01/23/2013) [-]
Pirating in the 18th century while interesting in what you said has no real relevance to the topic at hand.
"Many of the people called internet "pirates" are just people who refuse to bend over and take it in the ass by the record industry."
By my definition we are talking about people who upload media and then share it to others so that they can avoid paying for it, which means the developers lose money to those who did not pay for it.
I don't see how these are people "who refuse to bend over", they are thieves even if you want to justify they haven't "stolen" anything. They have still broken the copyright act.
User avatar #182 to #179 - sausageparty (01/24/2013) [-]
No they're not thieves. They may be infringers of intellectual property laws. But the company didn't lose any money in an actual sense. They only lost money in a potential sense. So in no way are the "internet pirates" thieves. Criminals, maybe yes. But not thieves.
My story about the 18th century pirates demonstrates a point. They couldn't just sail up to the authorities and say "Hey this is what we're willing to pay, bye". They could either pay the full price or not pay at all. Both are wrong so it comes down to a choice between the lesser of two evils. Paying the full price may be the lesser of two evils seen with societal eyes. But for people personally it's not.
#90 to #71 - anon (01/23/2013) [-]
You are thinking of smugglers not pirates.
User avatar #91 to #90 - sausageparty (01/23/2013) [-]
Yes, but that's my entire point. The people called pirates were often were just smugglers. Not actual pirates. They didn't steal anything just refused to pay an unreasonable price for something. That's why it's similar to today.
User avatar #161 to #91 - DerpScout ONLINE (01/23/2013) [-]
Right, but the thing is if someone is charging an unreasonable price for something I won't pirate it because of that, I'll just go without.
User avatar #175 to #161 - sausageparty (01/23/2013) [-]
Yes but I wont go without music just because some ********* decided to **** up the industry, and I wont suck up their ******** either. So pirating for me.
User avatar #68 to #53 - Daeiros (01/23/2013) [-]
well you are currently breathing, you are using the air for it's intended purpose without paying anyone for it. granted, this is only because nobody has decided to say "THATS MINE!" making it legally official that the air is indeed their property and that we must pay tribute for its use

did he, by playing a game that is already there, already exists, incur any debt or loss to anyone in any way?

the childish concept of ownership of an idea is holding back human progress, while we squabble about intellectual property rights, people could be improving and combining patented items to make newer and greater technology by adding their personal expertise, but they can't afford it, so oh well, that guy who has that great idea that could revolutionize life as we know it doesn't have enough money to pay some jackass who said "thats MY idea and you cant have it!" who is sitting around doing ******* with it.
User avatar #77 to #68 - sausageparty (01/23/2013) [-]
I agree to some extend with this. At the same time, there must be some reasonable way of making sure that the people who put effort into inventing or innovating something will get something personally out of it, in the sense of material compensation. Otherwise there will be too little motivation for people to put effort into anything and if companies can't make money developing products then how would they be able to pay their employees? This reward system is the foundation of capitalism. I believe very strongly in capitalism. As long as it is implemented in a reasonable way. In many ways the capitalism that is used in for example the US is not very reasonably implemented. Still, beats communism or fascism I assure you from personal reliable sources.
#149 to #68 - anon (01/23/2013) [-]
yea, you're totally contributing to "human progress" by sitting in your room playing pirated games.
you stupid faggot.
User avatar #58 to #52 - sausageparty (01/23/2013) [-]
I do this too sometimes.
For example I downloaded gta4. Didn't like it. Didn't buy. Only fair that you can try the product before buying it.
#126 - kez (01/23/2013) [-]
For the average band, buying records doesnt support a band. It supports the record company.

There is something like a "mechanical royalty" where the band makes $0.93 per album sold and if you think each album is sold for $10, you can see they make jack **** from record sales.

If a band thats been going for 10 years sells 500,000 copies of their album, that is good going. But the band would make $450,000 from those sales which is 45,000 a year divided by lets say 4 people in the band thats less than $12,000 a year per band member.

Where did the remaining over 4 million $ go? The record label.

If you want to support a band. Visit them on tours, thats why they tour, to earn a living. And buy their merch AT THE TOUR/GIG as that will go directly to them not websites and big companies selling it.

TL;DR - 90% money from selling albums goes to record label, they make no real money from it unless they sell in the millions or 10s of millions which is insane since piracy is the norm. To support a band go to their shows and by their merch.
#133 to #126 - anon (01/23/2013) [-]
so, only the stuff I like paying for anyways?
#140 to #126 - anon (01/23/2013) [-]
Stupid **** . you know "the record label" is not a single person but thousands of people working there, from accounting to logistics to graphic designers, technicians, IT people, advertisers, distribution, licenses for the audio codecs and so on... by buying music you support every single person that made it possible for you to hear that song. It takes more than just "making music" to finally have a CD distributed.

By pirating you support the same people that make the internet a worse place (malware, spamming, scams...).
I'm working in the entertainment industry too, and it sickens me how criminals make money off my work. and the average population wont say **** against it because most of the people are cheapskates (which is also why I will get red thumbs).
#178 to #140 - kez (01/23/2013) [-]
As you said, the company is massive, the record label wants to make as much money as possible.

This means a single band is nothing to them. They know a good chunk will fail, and a good chunk will be successfull and a few will make LOADS of money.

So they employ loads of people so they can record and sell hundred of bands so the record company makes loads more money. But this means the bands get an insanely small amount of money as their share in the record label is tiny as the label sells loads of other bands.

By buying CDs of your favourite musicians you are paying for all the hundreds of **** bands that fail and making the record label make money. The band gets jack **** .
#177 to #140 - kez (01/23/2013) [-]
While what you said is true, you arent considering the numbers.

You are assuming each person from the record company gets a fair share. This isnt even nearly true. And the band members themselves, I know producers are a big part of the music sounding how it does, I have friends who are music producers, but the majority of bands, unless they get absolutely massive, are permanantly broke until their record deal ends.

Of the 4 million $ in my example. Most of that will go to the people at the top of the company.

Record labels dont make any sense. Imagine going to a car dealer ship and you are told the names of the cars. You then pick a car by its name and buy it before you know if you like it or not. That is exactly what record companies offer.

You have to buy an album before you know if you like it or not. The reason it became mainstream is because there was no alternative before the internet.

Nowadays you can either take a risk and spend your money on something you have no idea if you like or not. Or pirate it and download for free and see if you like it, which probably more than half the time you won't. If you do like it you go to the bands tours etc and buy their merch.
#34 - yeahhhdebo (01/23/2013) [-]
That's why I buy CD's
And they also look cool as **** on my wall.
#38 to #34 - zombiepipboy (01/23/2013) [-]
nice collection
nice collection
#41 to #34 - devilmay (01/23/2013) [-]
***** ...Explain
User avatar #57 to #41 - teoferrazzi (01/23/2013) [-]
I don't see the difference, it's all music for teens
User avatar #101 to #34 - scorpionfrommk (01/23/2013) [-]
i see no Zeppelin, Metallica, or five finger death punch. for shame
#103 to #101 - mcatheistnuggets (01/23/2013) [-]
He gets a few points for Dethklok though. I have Metallica, Zepplin, ACDC, FFDP, Alice in Chains, GNR, RHCP, a few others.
User avatar #42 to #34 - natanhiel (01/23/2013) [-]

Dat left.
User avatar #6 - galkawhm (01/23/2013) [-]
If some software isn't available in your region or the creators of it are no longer making money off it, I see nothing wrong with pirating stuff.
#176 - lordmathias ONLINE (01/23/2013) [-]
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#89 - fiddyone (01/23/2013) [-]
So many people debating piracy. Personally, I would only buy a game if I want to play multiplier, I would probably only buy a CD if I really liked the artist, I would only buy software if I actually have to!
The amount of people who don't know how to get something for free, and will pay for it, outweighs that of the people who know how to get it for free.
A lot of the time, people who pirate stuff, would actually pay for it, if they had the money (At least in my experience) It's not a case of " **** your company, I'm getting this for free" but rather "I really want/need this, but I'm poor as **** right now!"
#95 to #89 - arandomanon (01/23/2013) [-]
That's exactly my position. Sometimes I can't even buy food because I spent the few money I get a month because I have a lot of **** to pay for (my flat's rent, water, internet, etc) and I try to save as much money as I can. The only game I'm about to buy is Dead Space 3 because my father wanted to give me a present for my birthday and I reserved the game although I'd have liked cash. The rest games/music/movies I want, I have to get them by piracy or otherwise I couldn't. I barely pirate games (don't have much time to play them) and the music I like.. it's impossible to get here so this is just another reason to draw on piracy.
#144 to #95 - anon (01/23/2013) [-]
you're listening to RAC? good comrade.
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User avatar #125 to #27 - pokemonstheshiz (01/23/2013) [-]
I don't like Spotify for the sheer fact that it takes around 20k listens for an artist to make even minimum wage off a song.
User avatar #70 to #27 - nogphille (01/23/2013) [-]
spotify has many restrictions and even more ads. installed it once, immediately removed it after reading the user agreement.
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User avatar #132 to #75 - nogphille (01/23/2013) [-]
a few bucks that go directly to spotify, i've looked into the amount the record companies and the artists actually recieve, it's horrible..

i refuse to be part of that shakedown.
#136 to #132 - anon (01/23/2013) [-]
Spotify is wrong where the artists don't get enough money, but pirating where they get nothing is fine? wut
User avatar #152 to #136 - nogphille (01/23/2013) [-]
i buy about half the music i download straight from the artists.. fortunately, i tend to enjoy most of the music by one artist, so i have no problems with purchasing full albums.

i download them first to sample the music and if it's not available for direct purchase.. the artist is **** out of luck.. srry for them..
but yeah, my collection of cds is about as great as my dvds or cd/dvd-rom (games) collection..

i just ******* hate spotify and other software that rips off the artists as much as they do.. less than a percentage of their income goes to the artist..
same with sabam (governmential institution that collects from all business owners that even play radio/bought cds in their stores)
#32 to #27 - allioth (01/23/2013) [-]
Spotify is currently not available in your country. Sign up to be first in line when Spotify launches in your country!
User avatar #8 - trimageryan (01/23/2013) [-]
Wait, there are people on the internet who don't automatically go to the pirate bay when they want must? That's strange...
User avatar #30 to #8 - lolollo (01/23/2013) [-]
I bought 2 of disturbed's albums just the other day.

Partially because I'm in a pickle on being able to get pirated music on my iPad using just my iPad, and because I didn't really mind it. They've been one of my favorite bands for years.
User avatar #69 to #30 - nogphille (01/23/2013) [-]
i see your problem, you bought an apple product.
seriously, apple limits you and you would've been better off spending a little over half of what you paid for it on comparable hardware from competitors.

but yeah, disturbed rocks.
User avatar #156 to #69 - trimageryan (01/23/2013) [-]
Agreed on both things.

I got a galaxy tab and I love that there's already a pirate bay and bittorrent app on their app market. It was only 200 dollars which is far better than getting an iPad of the same memory capacity (Which I, unlike iPad users, have the option to change out how much memory it can store) which would cost 500 dollars.
User avatar #162 to #69 - lolollo (01/23/2013) [-]
I would not only see your point, but I'd full on take that advice were it not for one important thing:

The iPad was actually a Christmas gift from my parents. I neither spent too much on it (it was free) nor planned on getting it in the first place, so there's not a whole lot of wiggle room as far as a solution involving me returning it for a less apply product.

Lucky me, I did have something working with utorrent and iTunes, but that requires a computer with a working USB port, of which I don't have, which is unlucky of me.

I know, I know...firstworldproblems.jpg
User avatar #14 to #8 - zipzopzoobity (01/23/2013) [-]
Some people might want to help support the band.
User avatar #155 to #14 - trimageryan (01/23/2013) [-]
Buying their music doesn't really help the band in the slightest. Bands make surprisingly small amounts of money on the individual album sales, most of the money is made off of concert tickets/merchandise and also whenever their songs are used in movies, television, or video games.
User avatar #183 to #155 - zipzopzoobity (01/24/2013) [-]
If enough people buy it the money can add up.
User avatar #184 to #183 - trimageryan (01/24/2013) [-]
But if more people listen to the music and spread the word of how good the band is, more people will go to concerts, making the band much more money.

People are more inclined to own something if it's free, regardless of quality.
User avatar #185 to #184 - zipzopzoobity (01/24/2013) [-]
Why not spread the word and buy the music?
User avatar #186 to #185 - trimageryan (01/24/2013) [-]
Some will, but initially people will be reluctant to buy an album that they haven't heard of so there would be less people going to the concert.

Regardless, the sales of CDs don't really affect the artists themselves, only the production company (And not even that much) as long as you go to one concert, you can justify downloading their entire discography and then some.
User avatar #151 - spysappinmysasha (01/23/2013) [-]
how the hell did this get frontpage? WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS
User avatar #163 to #151 - chopyourhandoff (01/23/2013) [-]
the community that you and I belong to is responsible for this.
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User avatar #96 - rawesome (01/23/2013) [-]
Hip Hop artist Immortal Technique encourages people to pirate his music, he's more concerned with getting his message across than selling records.

Ironicly I've bought everything of his I could get my hands on... Reverse psychology done right.
#143 to #96 - anon (01/23/2013) [-]
he only does so because he would cause a ********* if he dared to speak up against piracy. creative artists are afraid to speak up against being exploited by the warez mafia because they always get a ********* for it.
but when he says "just pirate my **** " everyone is like "oooh he is sooo cool" and he gets free publicity. If he really wanted to make his music available for free, he would have done so.
User avatar #110 to #96 - raynagrimm (01/23/2013) [-]
some one had to buy it so some one could upload it so other people could pirate it
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