Being White Isn't An Accomplishment. racist jokes can be hilarious, but spouting the idea that your ancestry makes you intrinsically better than someone else is white people racism black people
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Being White Isn't An Accomplishment. racist jokes can be hilarious, but spouting the idea that your ancestry makes you intrinsically better than someone else is

racist jokes can be hilarious, but spouting the idea that your ancestry makes you intrinsically better than someone else is just ignorant and foolish.

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User avatar #1 - Faz (01/22/2013) [-]
Ancestry is actually what makes you better, if your ancestors were more intelligent than a different nations and your two nations never shared information your nation would be far ahead of the other nation. Saying that ancestry has nothing to do with the intelligence of this generation is idiotic.
User avatar #2 to #1 - coolcalx (01/22/2013) [-]
that's assuming intelligence is purely genetic. it isn't.
User avatar #3 to #2 - Faz (01/22/2013) [-]
Intelligence is partially genetic, thats a fact. The rest of ones intelligence would come from the information gathered from their ancestors meaning your ancestors are purely to thank for intelligence.
User avatar #4 to #3 - coolcalx (01/22/2013) [-]
no, humans are social creatures.

yes, part of your intelligence is genetically inherited, but the rest of it is affected by environmental factors; be it how your parents raise you, how you're educated, how social interactions affect your understanding of the world and logic etc.

the point is, your ancestry does not, by itself, make you intrinsically better or worse than anybody else, because it is only PART of where your intelligence comes from
User avatar #5 to #4 - Faz (01/22/2013) [-]
Ancestry does make you better or worse than other, again its a fact. Genetics are what make us, if your race has stronger genetics than another then your race is better, stop with all this politically correct ******** and look at things purely from a scientific standpoint, being black means you are more likely to be stronger/faster than other races, being Asian means you are more likely to be better a numeracy (its not a stereotype for nothing) and being European makes you more of a rounded individual due to Europeans being a huge mixture of others.

You have been fed hippy ******** of "everyone is equal" when we are far from it, im not saying any one race is better than the other definitively but there are things which one race is better at than the others.
User avatar #6 to #5 - coolcalx (01/22/2013) [-]
>stronger genetics
this doesn't actually mean anything

genomebiology.com/2008/9/7/404
www.virginia.edu/woodson/courses/aas102%20%28spring%2001%29/articles/AAPA_race.pdf

I will quote this letter from the multidisciplinary group from Standford University on Genome Biology

"Among the most pervasive and pernicious claims of genetically determined traits are theories on the racial ordering of intelligence [21,22]. Despite the weak scientific basis for such ordering, the consistent return to the rhetoric of racial hierarchies of IQ reflects the powerful role that science has historically played in promoting racist ideologies [23]. Current evidence suggests that for most complex behavioral traits, contribution of any one gene to normal variation is small and these traits may be more fully explained by variation in environmental factors.

We therefore caution against making the naive leap to a genetic explanation for group differences in a complex behavioral trait, where environmental and social factors clearly can and do play major roles [24,25]."
User avatar #7 to #6 - Faz (01/22/2013) [-]
How does stronger genetics not mean anything? If this was the case why are grand national winning horses prized for their genetic makeup (sperm) the fact is stronger genes play a role in every part of a persons life. Also the paragraph you copy and pasted does not support you since the whole argument i initially stated was two nations separated, sharing no information with each other, environmental and social features of the two nations come purely from your ancestors. Also genes have been discovered which have a part in ones intelligence, not major but still genes which make one more likely to be intelligent.

Finally the second link you posted is research from 1996, a whole crap ton of leaps in the field of genetics have been found since then.
#9 to #7 - coolcalx (01/22/2013) [-]
by the way, I want to take a second to thank you for being civil about this all of this.   
   
   
   
I genuinely appreciate it. it's much easier to talk to someone who's being rational rather than screaming vulgarities at me, and being an all-around dick.
by the way, I want to take a second to thank you for being civil about this all of this.



I genuinely appreciate it. it's much easier to talk to someone who's being rational rather than screaming vulgarities at me, and being an all-around dick.
User avatar #8 to #7 - coolcalx (01/22/2013) [-]
the word "stronger" means nothing in terms of genetics. genes are different, not more powerful

no, it does support me. it specifically says that you can't base intelligence on one's ancestry and genetic makeup. "contribution of any one gene to normal variation is small and these traits may be more fully explained by variation in environmental factors."
this is exactly what I was saying to begin with.

"environmental and social features of the two nations come purely from your ancestors."
well, yeah, depending on how you look at it. if you look at this in a macroscopic view, your ancestors and my ancestors, and Jamal's ancestors are all the same people.
the difference isn't due to genetics, it isn't due to the social view of "race" (which is not biological), it's due to their socioeconomic upbringing. BUT, your socioeconomic background isn't solely based on your ancestry! it's based on the environment in which you grow up, which includes EVERYONE. it's cultural.

I didn't mean to post that second link, but it's not even a research paper. it's a statement about race published by the American Anthropological Association. they have not changed this viewpoint, but rather studies have strengthened their case that race is not biological, but a social creation. see the following link
http://www.aaanet.org/resources/a-public-education-program.cfm
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