Fuck you Paradox. not mine, found.. ME] NOSE WILL GROW NOW! says it will grow. but it doesnt he' s lying,. But it grows when he lies. so he be telling the . Hut

Fuck you Paradox

says it will grow. but it doesnt he' s lying,.
But it grows when he lies. so he be telling the .
Hut his nose still grew while he told the truth.
It all depends on how the whole lie detection thing,
works. There will be no paradox if by lying you
mean that Pinocchio says something the he thinks
isn' t true.
So if Pinocchio thinks that his nose will grow, and
he says "My nose will grow," then it won' t, and
Pinocchio will be surprised. If he thinks his nose
won' t grow, it will. Clearly after doing this for a
while Pinocchio won' t know what to think; he' ll just
know that he' s always somehow surprised by what
happens. But there is no paradox.
On the other hand, if the nose growing mechanism
NGM) kicks in simply when Pinocchio doesn' t tell
the truth, intentionally or not, then we have a
situation. I think in order to answer this question I' ll
have to fall back on Godel' s incompleteness
theorem and say that such an NGM cannot exist.
For one thing, if Pinocchio' s worked in this
way, he' d be totally omniscient. For example, he
could say "the stock market will go up tomorrow"
and know if his statement is true by whether or not
his nose grows. So here you get into a bench of
time travel paradoxes in addition to the original
Still, lets assume that this exists. Also, for the
sake of argument, let' s assume that nose grows
Pinocchio lied in addition to Pinocchio lies nose
grows. Consider what would happen if Pinocchio
made this proclamation:
Either my nose will grow or I will become a real
The only way for this statement to not cause a
paradox is for Pinocchio to become a real boy, So
if somehow the miiverse does whatever it can to
avoid paradoxes, it will turn Pinocchio into a real
Point of fact: Pinocchio is
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#14 - comandopro (01/21/2013) [-]
Um. 'True'. I'll go 'true'
User avatar #16 to #14 - KevinPutt (01/21/2013) [-]
Just replayed that chapter today. I <3 you.
#3 - rprol (01/20/2013) [-]
Yay. Philosophy.
User avatar #7 - wolvesbrickwall (01/21/2013) [-]
This all makes sense, except for the fact that Pinocchio isn't real.
#19 to #7 - anon (01/21/2013) [-]
now prove it
#8 to #7 - anon (01/21/2013) [-]
ahh! right in the childhood!
#39 - timetravelzero ONLINE (01/21/2013) [-]
So if Pinocchio were to say something along the lines of "Either my nose will grow, or atomic bonding no longer applies" would literally every substance in the universe undergo instant fission, or would the Paradox Law cease to apply? Both would (THEORETICALLY) end the universe as we know it, so what would happen? Would Pinocchio become a quantum being, existing in a world were both can happen at once or neither at all while still maintaining atomic and paradoxical integrity?

TL;DR - Don't piss off the Elder God named Pinocchio.
#37 - nrhv (01/21/2013) [-]
that is quite the thinker...
that is quite the thinker...
#32 - fluffyraptorr ONLINE (01/21/2013) [-]
#44 to #32 - anon (01/21/2013) [-]
youre using it wrong..
User avatar #42 to #34 - SHODANROCKS (01/21/2013) [-]
Dude what the hell is this awesome thing from?
User avatar #51 to #42 - theonewhoderps (01/21/2013) [-]
It is on [adult swim]
User avatar #59 to #51 - SHODANROCKS (01/21/2013) [-]
I entered the site and every video I click on shows me a picture of some weird guys walking near camels. And it asks me to go on forums and tell them how much I hate them for this.
User avatar #77 to #59 - theonewhoderps (01/21/2013) [-]
OOOOK weird
#31 - usernameistaken (01/21/2013) [-]
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#23 - thehint (01/21/2013) [-]
That depends on whether or not truth and lies exist in an objective reality of certainty and proposed falsehoods (And that that there are no quantum Lie/Truths or Truth/lies existing in both states simultaneously) .

Besides that, Pinocchio does not become omnipotent just because his curse could potentially grant him limited knowledge to the certainty of specific information. That is not what Omnipotent means, potentially he could ask questions that his limited mind could not even fathom and get correct answers as indicated by his nose but he would be none the wiser and could hardly deemed a synonym all knowing. Based on the uncertainty he feels about his own fate in his story, this seems likely. Moreover, the mechanism that his nose operates on need not even be operated by an all knowing entity, as it could just tap into a fundamental force that can differentiate between what reality exists and that which does not, periodically triggered on his proposed questions.

His nose may not even respond to paradox, let alone solve them.

Additionally, Time adds another constraint to the perimeters but does not necessarily need to be included. It could be a non factor entirely if we don't live a deterministic universe. You are just postulating on the uncertainty on the perimeters that could be included in the lore. In fact, most of this is inconclusive until we learn more about Pinocchio's nose using the scientific method.
User avatar #18 to #15 - sirrawrsalot (01/21/2013) [-]
I think i just went full retard....
User avatar #20 to #15 - newsmyrna (01/21/2013) [-]
two of the answers are the same so it would be 0% because the only correct answer would be 33.3333333333333333 and that is not an option.
#27 to #20 - tacopie (01/21/2013) [-]
It's 50%, i thought it would be 33% too, but the answer cannot be 25% because that would mean it would be possible to miss the answer even though you got the question right, so by process of elimination you are left with 50 and 60 percent. Which 1/2 obviously equals 50%.
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#22 - jellybob (01/21/2013) [-]
Yup. That's enough internet for tonight. Good night everybody
Yup. That's enough internet for tonight. Good night everybody
#9 - ceratosaurus (01/21/2013) [-]
kudos to those who made it to the end of the content, it was a tough battle, but you did it. hats off to you
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#5 - joshythehipster (01/21/2013) [-]
He's right you know.
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