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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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#4 - mankey
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Yeah but to be fair that's because the Government at the time were basically running like an autocratic state, controlling everything from industry to agriculture. They didn't care about being competitive on the stock market or making profit. It was 100% war effort, and no matter what troubles the population was going through they bit down hard and pushed on. But crime was through the roof, stealing from bombed houses, making counterfeit ration tickets and making bootleg liquor.

However after WW2 the government introduced a policy of Laissez Faire, meaning that the government no longer could interfere with business policy or prices. So now, all businesses are out to make profit and out do each other. But that also means that the country gets less money because they outsource their companies to tax havens, example in point is Starbucks Coffee.

So yes, England *was* more efficient in WW2 but that was because the government had full control over the countries infrastructure and resources. Now it's all in the hands of businesses and underfunded councils.

Plus there are more people to look after since there aren't millions of people fighting in Europe, but are back home needing housing, food, heating, medicine and transport.

I hope this helps put things into perspective for people. There will be a test on the differences faced by Cameron/Glegg government and Churchill/Atlee government next week. Class dismissed.
User avatar #7 to #4 - Sexy Waffles
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We also shouldn't forget Churchill was voted out of office within months of the war ending.
#36 to #7 - ninjastarfish [OP]
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and was then re-elected in 1951..
#76 to #36 - Sexy Waffles
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And this is why I shouldn't be a know-it-all based on what I learned in history class.   
.gif related: it's how dumb I look.
And this is why I shouldn't be a know-it-all based on what I learned in history class.
.gif related: it's how dumb I look.
#32 to #4 - anon id: 24a669be
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Oh boy... your lack of basic economic theory saddens me deeply. Autocratic governments are never economically efficient, just look at North Korea or the USSR for example. The government took control of the economy during war time to divert all nesscary resources to the war effort. This doesn't equate to efficiency as those resources could have been sold some where else for a greater profit. It's profit seeking behaviour that encourages efficiency, as those that are wasteful drop out of the market. Outsourcung jobs saves the company money making it more profitbale, the only losers are lowskilled workers who would have to retrain to do something else (and annoyance for customers in telemarketing cases lol).The spill over effect aloows society to benefit from those gains. In the case of starbucks they do pay all their main taxes, it was a tax on the profits they were making, that they avoided. By no means am i defending them, as it gave them a unfair advantage over the average coffeee shop, just pointing out that your arguments are wrong good sir.
User avatar #71 to #32 - mankey
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You're not arguing that an autocratic state is inefficient, you're arguing that their intentions are what determines the efficiency. However, even in your examples of North Korea and the USSR their economy did boom when all legislative and economic power was in control of the government. Of course then those few at the top decided they preferred money and power over patriotism to their country. Profit seeking behaviour doesn't encourage efficiency, in many cases it undermines it, as those who seek it look for short cuts and cheaper ways to do things to increase their profit margins.

And lest we forget Nazi Germany saw the greatest economic recovery in recorded history because Hitler fused the roll of Chancellor and President into one seat of power the "Führer" he then took a country completely crippled by the reparation payments it had been forced to pay to the "allied countries" due to the loss of WW1 and the laws set out in the treaty of Versailles. Hitler was able to take Germany, the then weakest economic power in Europe and in a few years turn it into a war machine that nearly succeeded in conquering all of Europe and could practically, if not for some blunders in Hitler's strategy towards the end, have taken over the planet. We are also seeing similar, if not as fast, growth in China, which although technically still calling themselves a "Communist State" still have leaders in power.

Outsourcing saves a company money because they don't have to worry about tax for just being in a certain country. The taxes being what runs a countries economy. Also it means the workers aren't in the country so there are no wages to be taxed, the raw materials in the case of manufacturing aren't charged import tax and the finished product aren't charged export tax. Millions upon millions of lost tax revenue, *before* the tax on profits made in the country.

I don't believe my arguments are wrong, I believe you may have mis-interpreted certain points and got hung up on them.
#45 to #4 - MasterManiac
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Dammit I just read all of that.
#52 to #4 - missing
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User avatar #12 to #4 - guitarguise
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This guy. I like this guy.

And his username.
#5 - DweebyTwonkyHead
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Well said, sir!

No problem up here when it snows
#11 to #5 - megabloks
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User avatar #13 to #11 - TimBisley
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You say that like its a bad thing
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User avatar #17 to #5 - fromtheinternet
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Same in Yorkshire, honestly no one gives a ****


#8 - gobber
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i would like to point out how small and compact England is, its hard to move on a normal day so .... ... ya snow ***** **** up. but hes some freddie to make your day better
#9 - brosanction
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HOLY ****
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******* WOWZA
User avatar #18 to #9 - fedegon
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Even for a tropical-born that isn't much cold.
User avatar #19 to #18 - brosanction
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I have no idea what makes people in the UK freak out like this
#40 to #19 - batwill **User deleted account**
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MFW I'm from the midwest and people in California are treating 40F like like the ice storm at the end of the world.
User avatar #56 to #19 - harbingerwolf
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Our pathetic health and safety obsessed government.
#48 to #19 - anon id: 81408273
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We don't. But the media and the government do. Us regular folk just get the **** on with it
User avatar #20 to #19 - fedegon
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Having to wear pants?
#21 to #20 - brosanction
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>mfw people in the UK call underwear "pants"
>mfw people in the UK call underwear "pants"
User avatar #15 - phantasna
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My schools name is sir winston churchill :3
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#28 to #15 - dagreatmax
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:3  what has funnyjunk become, for **** sakes.
:3 what has funnyjunk become, for **** sakes.
#55 to #28 - anon id: 6f50bd96
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Somone states a relevant coincidence to the content on the page, gets neg thumbed, some one calls him a faggot, gets plus thumbs. Yes what has funnyjunk become...
User avatar #73 to #55 - dagreatmax
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he wrote :3 and that makes him a fag. We don't want that **** on FJ
User avatar #10 - lifestyle
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Lol op haven't you heard of profit in war?
Why do you think most wars occur? Because some people always make $$$$$$$$$$ from them
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#23 to #10 - anon id: c8d75e3f
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why do i think wars start? I think that the vast majority of wars have started for different reasons than just economic gain quite frankly.
#43 to #23 - anon id: 4f97e287
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really? If you look back a little most wars was probably started because of economy.

examples: most of the roman wars, most of the wars in medieval times, colony wars (africa, america etc), the opium war in china( China took extreme high prices on tea from the English, china was also the only country with tea at that time), WWI (started because germany wanted to expand with colonies like England and France had done. France and England threaten with war, + germany had a retarded emperor, after the shooting in sarajevo germany used that as an excuse to start the war, then WWI started). WWII (started because of all the tribute the winners of WWII demanded from germany. Germany had billions in dept because they had to pay the other countries all their economic losses after WWI. all the poverty etc breeded extreme thoughts like Hitler, and then WWII started).
User avatar #31 to #23 - Jackimole
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UR JUST BLINDED BY BIG BROTHER!!!
OPEN UR EYES FGT!!!!1
User avatar #14 to #10 - ohokay
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££££££££££ for England though
#2 - xfrankie
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It's because people are lazy and generally ignorant and can't work together unless facing a severe danger. Some snowstorm? - no one gives a damn. Whole nazi army knocking on your door? - now that's something worth a team job...

...still a thumb up for you.

And now viewers can unite and thumb me back down to oblivion for stating my opinion...
#3 to #2 - ninjastarfish [OP]
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If the nazis come knocking again we'll have a few million chavs to sacrifice to them
#24 - awesomenorwegian
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aaaah! It's funny because it's true
User avatar #6 - metalbass
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and its like what? 6 inches. I live in Canada. My mom is there for a funeral and she called me to tell me. I'm like wooooow 6 inches is nothing
User avatar #29 - respectacles
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Never in the field of human conflict have so many looked like so few from so far away