Oh Obama. I voted for Obama but he needs to take a look around sometimes...Literally... now take a minute to think about why those ppl protecting him need guns. gun control
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#2 - rousefj
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(01/17/2013) [-]
now take a minute to think about why those ppl protecting him need guns.
#588 to #2 - Bforbacon
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(01/18/2013) [-]
now take a minute why you need guns. It's about the same reason. Protection.
#629 to #588 - dorkledumbs
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(01/18/2013) [-]
Because every day I go outside I face the danger of being assassinated.

President = Important
Random Citizen = Average
#689 to #629 - Bforbacon
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(01/18/2013) [-]
I actually hold my life to be equal to Obama's and therefore I'd like the means to protect it.

And you do face the danger of being murdered or mugged or attacked.
#235 to #2 - evilmonkeycss
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#403 to #2 - marlkarxthethird
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(01/18/2013) [-]
The president hates hugs. The agents are there to shoot anyone who attempts to run up to him and give him a hug. Like, with a knife or a bullet or something.

Knife-hugs aren't for everyone, I guess.
#4 - captainoptimist
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(01/17/2013) [-]
The people protecting the leader of the free world from assassination = need guns.

Random citizens walking the street = maybe need guns

Active military in combat situations = need assault rifles

Anyone else, ever = don't need assault rifles

The end.
#308 to #4 - dantemp
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(01/18/2013) [-]
Oh, come on? Seriously? "Random citizens walking the street = maybe need guns"? And who the **** is anyone else, if I may ask? CAUSE EVERYONE IS A RANDOM CITIZEN WALKING THE STREET AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER.

And you guys endorsed him so much, wtf?
#9 to #7 - captainoptimist
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(01/17/2013) [-]
I maintain he could have protected himself just as easily with a different kind of gun. He didn't need an assault rifle. He just happened to use one.

If he had used a rocket launcher to attack the intruders, would your logic therefore be that he needed it?
#16 to #9 - KayRed
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(01/18/2013) [-]
****, a baseball bat could've done the job.
#10 to #9 - friendlyanonymous
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(01/17/2013) [-]
"Assault rifle"
Really?
#11 to #10 - captainoptimist
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(01/17/2013) [-]
Fair enough, having looked up the definition, the AR-15 is frequently referred to as an assault rifle, but is not TECHNICALLY an assault rifle.



I'll amend to "semi-automatic rifles." Same sentiment applies.
#12 to #11 - friendlyanonymous
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(01/17/2013) [-]
Honestly, the only reason they call them assault rifles is because of looks.
#17 to #11 - KayRed
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(01/18/2013) [-]
Don't take that back, it's the civilian version of the m-16. It might not be fully automatic, but it is still gas-powered and fires the same round. It is an assault rifle.
#21 to #17 - thatguywhohasbacon
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(01/18/2013) [-]
an assault rifle is a selective fire weapon that uses rifle caliber bullets. So I'm glad he corrected himself, but you are being just like the people behind the assault weapons ban: OMG big scary black gun!11!1! It must be an assault rifle!!!11!1!
#22 to #21 - thatguywhohasbacon
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(01/18/2013) [-]
don't know why it underlined that part...
#28 to #21 - KayRed
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(01/18/2013) [-]
Mother ******...

Stg 44 did have selective fire.

Regardless, an AR-15 is unnecessary.
#27 to #21 - KayRed
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(01/18/2013) [-]
That is not what makes an assault rifle an assault rifle. I am pretty sure the Stg 44, the first assault riffle was only full auto. Arguing that the standard AR 15 is semi-automatic, thus making it so it's not an assault rifle is better. What I am saying is that the AR 15 has the same stopping power as the M-16 (granted I may be wrong about that, I am not an expert), and is still over kill and unnecessary. That kid could've gotten the job done just as well with a hand gun (probably easier, since they are easier to use).
#31 to #27 - thatguywhohasbacon
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(01/18/2013) [-]
Also an ar-15 is unnecessary in the same sense that a large truck is unnecessary, it may be a little much but it get's the job done, if not better.
#36 to #31 - KayRed
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(01/18/2013) [-]
That all depends on what the job is, there is such thing as over doing it. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but the AR 15 would have a higher velocity round than a pistol, unless it was a hallow point the slug is going right through the person, not much else is gonna stop it.
#42 to #36 - thatguywhohasbacon
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(01/18/2013) [-]
And I prefer that if the guy had body armor on I could just punch right through it, my intent when using a gun for self defense isn't killing, I'd hate to kill somebody so that means the AR-15 would be a better choice than a pistol for me by that logic.
#45 to #42 - KayRed
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(01/18/2013) [-]
My point was that the AR would have the potential of harming an innocent bystander, which no one wants. And I'm pretty sure a pistol is less deadly than an a rifle.
#47 to #45 - thatguywhohasbacon
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(01/18/2013) [-]
A bullet going through a person if far less deadly than a bullets that stays in, so if a pistol round stays in and a rifle round goes through then it causes a problem, Personally, I use a mossberg 500 pump action loaded with birdshot. It's lethal but if I don't hit them directly it doesn't kill as easily and still hurts like a bitch when it hits body armor.
#30 to #27 - thatguywhohasbacon
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(01/18/2013) [-]
"A rapid-fire, magazine-fed automatic rifle designed for infantry use."
That is the real definition, the last one was recited from memory but I do agree we don't need automatic weapons but semi auto helps ALOT.
#33 to #30 - KayRed
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(01/18/2013) [-]
Meh, it's a start. My real issue is making guns in general harder to get. When I was in highschool, my freshman year actually, a kid in my grade was going to come in and shoot up the school. He was caught before hand thankfully. He had what was considered an assault weapon (weather your definition for it fits or not, it was a high powered rifle with at least semi-automatic capabilities), his mother got him the rifle under the table at a gun show, and she was a convicted felon (I think...). In a situation where some one is so intent on killing some one that they want to acquire a tool specifically made for that purpose, the most important factor is time, time to cool down, or time to catch the person before it happens.
#41 to #33 - thatguywhohasbacon
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(01/18/2013) [-]
I do agree with stricter regulations regarding obtaining a gun (Better mental health check, better background check, etc.) but don't stop people form getting them ,should we ban swords too? Weren't they made for killing? Also cars, they may not have been made for killing but they sure as hell make it easy.
#44 to #41 - KayRed
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(01/18/2013) [-]
Well, there are strict regulations on intoxicated driving, but no I don't support a complete ban of fire arms. I think it's something we should work to in the next couple of decades, but as of right now no, just regulations. For me, the whole country needs to be behind a ban, or at least more than we have right now.
#46 to #44 - thatguywhohasbacon
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(01/18/2013) [-]
I would never want an outright ban. But I do wish that they implemented a few things: Mental health checkups, Registering rifles such as an ar-15, requiring guns to be sold in a store and not at gun shows (except antiques). Things like that I believe would make a massive impact.
#544 to #46 - actuallyisdolan
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(01/18/2013) [-]
oh ok so I cant kill someone with an antique firearm?
#589 to #544 - thatguywhohasbacon
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(01/18/2013) [-]
When I say antique I mean cap and ball revolvers and other black powder firearms, not like ww2 guns. You can kill someone with it, but you can't massacre people with it. You'd have at most 6 shots and then take a few minutes to reload, after those six shots the revolver is better off as a blunt weapon nowadays.
#596 to #589 - actuallyisdolan
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(01/18/2013) [-]
true, true but it only takes 1 shot to kill a man......i dont know why i am even arguing this i love guns and id the government tries to take them away ***** going down.
#606 to #596 - thatguywhohasbacon
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(01/18/2013) [-]
It also only takes one swing from a bat, and you'd probably have greater range with the bat. lol jk, but you really can't stop 1 on 1 murders at all, but massacres can be avoided. And I'm glad you're able to see both sides even though you love guns, people who militantly reject others opinion like a christian are bad most of the time.
#620 to #606 - actuallyisdolan
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(01/18/2013) [-]
Yeah, i see no problem with increased strength on back ground checks. if you arent hiding anything then why fight it. but i think the magazine restriction is a bad idea becasue first off it isnt hard to make something like that all you need is alittle scrap metal and ingenuity....what im saying is people will find their way around it like they always have
#703 to #620 - thatguywhohasbacon
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(01/18/2013) [-]
I know what you mean, I don't agree with banning high capacity magazines because they're extremely easy to make, why disarm the people if the criminals will get them anyways?
#51 to #46 - cockassunited
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(01/18/2013) [-]
Gun shows have the same requirements as gun stores unless you're a private seller.
#157 to #51 - anon
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(01/18/2013) [-]
And here we see americunts thinking that they can shoot the problemst that guns bring, such as gun murders etc. Europe almost doesn't have these problems.
#158 to #157 - anon
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(01/18/2013) [-]
So when someone shows up with a illegal gun what do you do? Say "Hey you're not supposed to have that?"
#647 to #4 - mexicandudeinsd
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(01/18/2013) [-]
but zombies
#649 to #647 - captainoptimist
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(01/18/2013) [-]
True. In the event of a zombie apocalypse, they are necessary. However, I can still tick off a pretty long list of people I would rather get eaten by zombies than EVER handle a gun of any kind, ever. Did I mention ever?
#652 to #649 - mexicandudeinsd
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(01/18/2013) [-]
yep:)
#257 to #4 - komradkthulu
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(01/18/2013) [-]
The AR-15 (which is the focus of a lot of debate) is wrongly represented constantly as an "assault rifle" or "assault weapon", being that it is not fully automatic. It's basically a pistol with a longer barrel. And the AR-15 and weapons like it account for less than 3% of gun violence, according to the FBI database. To me, that doesn't sound significant enough to ban.
The AR-15 (which is the focus of a lot of debate) is wrongly represented constantly as an "assault rifle" or "assault weapon", being that it is not fully automatic. It's basically a pistol with a longer barrel. And the AR-15 and weapons like it account for less than 3% of gun violence, according to the FBI database. To me, that doesn't sound significant enough to ban.
#622 to #257 - greasychesticles
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(01/18/2013) [-]
The thing is, ARs aren't portable the same way hand guns are. You can't bring an AR 15 with you "incase you need to protect yourself", you're carrying an AR-15 for the purpose of hurting someone. I respect your opinion though
#227 - gatodelfuego
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(01/18/2013) [-]
Jesus god why can nobody ever put up a legitimate argument against gun control. These are professional security officers, put through heavy training to protect someone who could easily be killed. Meanwhile, anyone in texas can walk into a wal-mart, or anywhere else, and walk out with a powerful weapon. No training, almost no questions asked.

Also what's up with the scare that people think obama's going to write up an order banning guns forever? It's gun control, not gun banning. If anything he'd be making it harder to obtain weapons. Not impossible, but much harder.
#230 to #227 - anon
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(01/18/2013) [-]
Harder for who, criminals, or law abiding citizens?
#231 to #230 - gatodelfuego
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(01/18/2013) [-]
Hopefully, both. It would have been more difficult for the aurora shooter and I believe the mall shooter to obtain an "assault" firearm, though this is a term I dissagree with, as they both obtained them legally iirc. Of course, according to conservatives, they'll still use the "black market" to obtain their guns, but honestly I don't ever see that happening. You don't just go on craigslist and start asking up if people can sell you guns. Meanwhile, any citizen that wants a gun will be able to get it if they really want to. Think of it more like getting a driver's license. People always say that we should ban cars to save lives, but then don't remember that anybody can get a gun but you have to train to drive a car.
#491 to #231 - saddestofbreads
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(01/18/2013) [-]
1. Another person dead from a gun.
2. That's what the law is trying to change.
3. Some states, but in most you can just buy them from Wal-Mart or a gun show.
4. Cars are made for transportation while guns are designed to kill people.
#233 to #231 - anon
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(01/18/2013) [-]
1. The mall shooter killed himself after a armed civilian took aim at him
2. Criminals can get guns dirt cheap on any city corner
3. People already have to go through FBI background checks and in some states safety courses
4. The qualifications for driving are so low any non brain-dead 16 can get one.
#252 - istoleyoursoxs
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(01/18/2013) [-]
More like
SPECIALLY TRAINED WITH GUNS
SPECIALLY TRAINED WITH GUNS
SPECIALLY TRAINED WITH GUNS
SPECIALLY TRAINED WITH GUNS
SPECIALLY TRAINED WITH GUNS
#261 - qayokm
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(01/18/2013) [-]
man you're dumb. these are no guns... these all humans!
#355 to #261 - pillowmeister
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(01/18/2013) [-]
mfw americans call hoiti-toity point and shooty "guns"


mfw no face because i haven't got the picture
#612 to #355 - notcop
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(01/18/2013) [-]
mfw you tried to make a mfw, without a fw.
mfw you tried to make a mfw, without a fw.
#701 to #261 - anon
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(01/18/2013) [-]
Some of them are cars!
#409 - thedarklordpi
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(01/18/2013) [-]
seems you're ignoring the fact that everyone protecting him is a highly trained security agent who has gone through rigorous preparation in handling weapons...
seems you're ignoring the fact that everyone protecting him is a highly trained security agent who has gone through rigorous preparation in handling weapons...
#412 to #409 - tigronn
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#420 to #412 - thedarklordpi
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(01/18/2013) [-]
good for you, you can see the trigger. i'm glad you aren't ******* blind. just because i can see a plane's controls doesn't mean i can fly it.
#424 to #420 - tigronn
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#417 to #412 - anon
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(01/18/2013) [-]
You sound like a butthurt jackass. Maybe stop.
#419 to #417 - tigronn
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#634 - ivoryhammer
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(01/18/2013) [-]
I don't know, probably because his guards are elite trained, and probably won't go shoot up a school, but you know, that's just logical thinking.
#639 to #634 - reaperriley ONLINE
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(01/18/2013) [-]
Shhh.... dont use logic. Thats not allowed here.
#244 - scorcho
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(01/18/2013) [-]
Who are you trying to convince? Shut the **** up already with the gun posts. It's not like anyone on this site can change ****.
#251 - synapse
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(01/18/2013) [-]
Stop bitching already, plus those people have guns because they are government officials, unlike civilians. You don't get CIA members run around shooting people.
#259 to #251 - anon
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(01/18/2013) [-]
Yeah they just give cartels ******* machine guns.
#673 - aesguitar
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(01/18/2013) [-]
Banning guns because you don't NEED it is like banning elevators and escalators, you don't need them, but you want them.
#681 to #673 - anon
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(01/18/2013) [-]
Except you can't shoot people to death with elevators and escalators.
#688 to #681 - tangentialrex
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(01/18/2013) [-]
Not with that attitude.
#686 to #681 - aesguitar
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#696 to #686 - anon
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(01/18/2013) [-]
because you DO need those. Without them there would be major problems in industry and society in general
#692 to #686 - cyberkite
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(01/18/2013) [-]
but it's harder.
#780 to #673 - awesomechardey
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(01/20/2013) [-]
It's the same thing, to ban elevators... trust me guys... i'm captain logical.