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#151 - mattdoggy (01/12/2013) [-]
Martin Luther King fathered many mistresses and illegitimate children all over the south

Hitler banned smoking because it was bad for health, mass produced and helped invent the Volkswagon so everyone could get a cheep affordable vehicle, fixed the economy of a starving nation, invented the highway system, gave us the Olympic torch event, and was an environmentalist who protected animals from abuse or reckless hunting.

Malcom X was an extreme racist that openly accepted violence and race warfare. He also suffered from mental illness and initially became famous because he tried to interfere with officers subduing and arresting a man who had assaulted an officer.

Osama gave millions of dollars to build school, wells, hospitals, and help farmers. He also had a loan system where any one could ask for money with no interest charged, no time limit to pay it back, and no punishment if you couldn't pay it back.

Bill Gates did a lot of back and forth stealing with apple and made shady business deals, involving him buying operating systems for next to nothing and selling them for millions

Stalin helped industrialize one of the poorest nations in the world and was able to use this industry to turn the tide of the war and save his people. He also gave women equal rights and created an entirely literate society.

Nothings black and white but society likes to whittle people down to a gem
User avatar #527 to #151 - seniorpokeman (01/12/2013) [-]
The one for Bill isn't really that bad, though. Apple stole from him, too. Also, buying things and selling them for a higher profit isn't bad. It's business. Just saying.
User avatar #521 to #151 - popkornking (01/12/2013) [-]
Guise he's right, we should start writing essays for content with all opposing viewpoints and values considered! That way everything won't be so black and white! Right guise? Guise?
User avatar #400 to #151 - awesomenessdefined (01/12/2013) [-]
Stalin gave equal rights to everybody by eliminating most rights, and an entirely literate society by killing illiterate people.
User avatar #390 to #151 - joshkroger (01/12/2013) [-]
this isn't bias at all
User avatar #401 to #390 - Jackimole (01/12/2013) [-]
He's just playing devil's advocate. He's saying that everyone does good things and bad things, not one of those people were inherently good or evil, so the post saying they are good or evil doesn't make sense.
User avatar #353 to #151 - JoshBauer (01/12/2013) [-]
Hitler also murdered a couple Jews. Or maybe more than a couple.
#329 to #151 - hopeyoudie (01/12/2013) [-]
Stalin killed all his generals because he thought they were plotting aginst him, which caused that the USSR had way more troubles in WWII than it should have had
#261 to #151 - Hiddendemon (01/12/2013) [-]
mfw you compare hitler with martin luther king.
mfw you compare hitler with martin luther king.
User avatar #259 to #151 - iloverapingmen (01/12/2013) [-]
This information is so unspecific, where are you even getting this?
User avatar #251 to #151 - ddaappoo (01/12/2013) [-]
hitler didn't fix the economy of germany, instead he caused hyper inflation
#210 to #151 - miaandvinny (01/12/2013) [-]
You know, the fact that Hitler and Stalin killed a couple million of innocent people may make them bad guys no matter what.
#192 to #151 - squillium (01/12/2013) [-]
Yeah, Stalin also ya know, killed 60 million people, but that can be overlooked right?
User avatar #489 to #192 - daentraya (01/12/2013) [-]
Thats the big black. What was listed here is the bit of white. Read the bottom line
#174 to #151 - rambearclaw (01/12/2013) [-]
Buy him out boys!
#173 to #151 - xeltar (01/12/2013) [-]
Stalin's industrialization was done at the expense of the environment and only possible because he allowed 5 million of his people to starve as he shifted the economy from food production to capital. He actually repealed many of women equality laws that were established under Lenin (ex. sexual liberty) and the ones he put in place were to allow them to work in factories and increase production, socially women were worse off.
User avatar #167 to #151 - Mr Ronok ONLINE (01/12/2013) [-]
thank you. someone who actually knows their **** is on the internet. i didn't think there were many of us left
#215 to #167 - miaandvinny (01/12/2013) [-]
Regardless of weather someone knew this or not, Hitler and Stalin still kill millions of innocent people. If you get into an arguement over if Hitler was bad or not, (not sure why you would be debating this, but it's the internet, so whater,) the fact that he helped kill 6 million people beats out him building a car company.
#281 to #215 - coolcalx (01/12/2013) [-]
the point is, "bad" people also do good things, and "good" people also do bad things.   
he's not saying Hitler and Stalin were good people, he's just pointing out that things aren't as black and white as they appear.
the point is, "bad" people also do good things, and "good" people also do bad things.

he's not saying Hitler and Stalin were good people, he's just pointing out that things aren't as black and white as they appear.
#646 to #281 - miaandvinny (01/13/2013) [-]
I knwo what Mattdoggy was saying, but it seemed like Mr Ronok was suprised that the interenet thought Hitler and Stalin were bad people.
User avatar #647 to #646 - coolcalx (01/13/2013) [-]
#648 to #647 - miaandvinny (01/13/2013) [-]
The tone of their voice.
#649 to #648 - coolcalx (01/13/2013) [-]
... the tone of his voice.

#650 to #649 - miaandvinny (01/13/2013) [-]
Couldn't you tell they were giving me sass?
#652 to #650 - coolcalx (01/13/2013) [-]
he never even spoke to you.
he never even spoke to you.
#653 to #652 - miaandvinny (01/13/2013) [-]
Yeah, whatever you say.
#161 to #151 - schizoo (01/12/2013) [-]
I don't get why you see banning smoking as a good thing just because it's bad for your health. Hitler was also bad for a lot of people's health but he didn't ban himself
User avatar #166 to #161 - CreepyNeighbor (01/12/2013) [-]
You know what else is bad for your health?
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User avatar #203 to #166 - fantomen (01/12/2013) [-]
I have to disagree with you there.
Last time I participated in a genocide I felt great for weeks.
#168 to #166 - schizoo (01/12/2013) [-]
yea that's kind of what i was saying
yea that's kind of what i was saying
User avatar #191 to #168 - sirgawain (01/12/2013) [-]
You know who else said things?
#158 to #151 - anon (01/12/2013) [-]
I'm willing to bet nobody looks any of this up to call your ******** . I get your point though, thumb for you.
User avatar #160 to #158 - infinitereaper (01/12/2013) [-]
Speaking of witch Gandhi was a weird pervert who slept naked with his cousins.
User avatar #205 to #160 - infinitereaper (01/12/2013) [-]
Well **** you too FJ.
User avatar #303 to #205 - ddemiddon (01/12/2013) [-]
Then quit being an idiot
User avatar #335 to #303 - infinitereaper (01/12/2013) [-]
The only idiocy is not finding the truth weird, aside from that, there's plenty more biographical information on Gandhi and others that is far stranger to say the least. I'm not hating, but some of this stuff is interesting to say the least. It's not my fault if you're morons.
User avatar #350 to #335 - ddemiddon (01/12/2013) [-]
Are you saying that you don't do something that might be strange to some other culture. Ghandi affected so many people he might has been a leader of a country. I'll bet thousands of his followers did the same, hell his cousins agreed to lie next to him didn't they? Just think about these things a little more, I might have been too harsh in calling you an idiot, but sometimes strange things are the most accepted
User avatar #359 to #350 - infinitereaper (01/12/2013) [-]
I'm not saying he wasn't a great man, but there are no such things as saints. I'm sure there is plenty of human things we were unaware of. We tend to glorify people that way. To not acknowledge that is a bit naive or wishful. Besides, the version of history we know is distorted is it not? There is an entire hidden history though since I don't really like history that much I haven't really looked that much into the subject.
User avatar #375 to #359 - ddemiddon (01/12/2013) [-]
I do not deny any of what you said just then. but some people like Ghandi, or Buddha become more then people. Like ow Hitler can be so evil as too just kill people, that's inhuman. We see these people like that because that's who they were. Ghandi was unorthodox, Hitler was evil, and how people see Jesus was good. History was written the way it was written, we have to accept that and hope the history we leave behind is better documented. Whether what we know now is wishful or not, we imrpove by making sure people know who we are, and who knows, maybe somethings we better left unsaid.
User avatar #638 to #375 - infinitereaper (01/13/2013) [-]
User avatar #162 to #160 - dutchbag (01/12/2013) [-]
To prove his restraint.
User avatar #163 to #162 - infinitereaper (01/12/2013) [-]
Or to secretly bang his cousins. In all honesty though, I ain't hating.
User avatar #155 to #151 - Jackimole (01/12/2013) [-]
What about Zebras?
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