Neil Mothafuckin' Degrasse Tyson. .. I don't understand his argument here. senators and congressmen are in the legislative branch of the government. their job is to make laws. of course they're law


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User avatar #2 - coolcalx (12/28/2012) [-]
I don't understand his argument here. senators and congressmen are in the legislative branch of the government. their job is to make laws. of course they're ******* lawyers!
User avatar #27 to #2 - xtnega (12/29/2012) [-]
But what is the point of having people make laws when they don't know how the rest of the world works?
#53 to #27 - anon (12/29/2012) [-]
But what is the point of having scientists make laws if they don't know anything but science? It is not their area of expertise. Lawyers and businessmen have deep understanding of how society and the incentives move them work. Science is just another area of study. You have to understand that science is not the ultimate area of study.
User avatar #248 to #53 - xtnega (12/29/2012) [-]
I can simply apply everything you said, and apply it to politicians: What's the point of having politicians make laws about problems they don't experience/understand? We must have incorporate other viewpoints into the process, having politicians make laws about... for example, the Internet (SOPA being the clear example) is stupid, that should be done by people who know how the internet works and/or people who use it.
Also, note that I didn't say anywhere about it only being scientists, all parties influenced by a law should be involved in the making of it.
User avatar #20 to #2 - slumberdonkey (12/29/2012) [-]
his point is that the people who represent our country do not represent all of our country. We should choose representatives from all walks of life and all different careers.
User avatar #5 to #2 - biggieboy (12/28/2012) [-]
it's taken out of context. He was talking about being on the NASA committee IIRC. It would be nice to have some engineers on that panel, but they are mostly people with a degree in law.
User avatar #6 to #5 - coolcalx (12/28/2012) [-]
ahhhhhhh context would definitely help here
User avatar #8 to #6 - biggieboy (12/28/2012) [-]

that's the closest i have come, but it still offers little context
User avatar #7 to #6 - biggieboy (12/28/2012) [-]
yeah, I know. I'd give you the link, but then I'd have to watch all NdGT, and there are quite a few :)
User avatar #11 to #6 - grahamernazi (12/28/2012) [-]
Even so, isn't this comic relative to the downward spiral of our lives? If you have all lawyers (wealthy people) then you'll have them voting for more taxes on the lower classes. A million other reasons, but this one is off of the top of my head.
User avatar #256 to #11 - coolcalx (12/29/2012) [-]
the term "double edged sword" comes to mind.
User avatar #9 to #5 - MOFOJOYO (12/28/2012) [-]
I think it still works out of context. In regards of actually drafting legislation lawyers are a necessary evil, however wouldn't it be nice to have some economists making choices on economics not just those bankers and venture capitalists that stand to profit or be hurt by tax law. And for public schooling and general child education and welfare wouldn't it be nice to have some people who are/were deans of prestigious universities and child development specialists making the call on what children need to succeed. And to the point shouldnt we have scientists and engineers figuring out energy crises, and what the treatment of tomorrow will hold. So to echo what Neil is saying... Where is the rest of life? Because I would like to believe we live in a nation beyond title, beyond these careers and laws, something more than borders on a map.
User avatar #12 to #9 - coolcalx (12/28/2012) [-]
if anything, they should at least have advisers of different fields of study.

but yeah, good point
User avatar #17 to #12 - graydiggy (12/28/2012) [-]
They do have advisors in different fields.

They just never take their advice.
User avatar #32 - pizzamenz (12/29/2012) [-]
What profession do all these scientists have? Science, science, Space and **** .
Where are congressmen, lawmakers, icecream men?

It's the ******* field of work dude.
User avatar #39 to #32 - Faz (12/29/2012) [-]
Scientists are there to do science, congressmen are there as a representative of the people and thats where his point comes from, how is one set of people sharing basically the same viewpoints supposed to represent the people.
#228 - satexas (12/29/2012) [-]
It's because scientists are too smart to be in Congress.
It's because scientists are too smart to be in Congress.
#23 - AquariusCyclone (12/29/2012) [-]
Lawyers know the current body of laws better than anyone else, not to mention they fully understand the complex system of jurisdiction among the different levels of government. In addition, lawyers are trained to speak with substantial volume and argue without losing composure. Scientists, educators, and people of other occupations theoretically contribute to this by voting for congressmen, albeit the system for re-electing congressmen isn't perfect yet. But having congressmen who do not study law isn't a solution.
User avatar #30 to #23 - DmOnZ (12/29/2012) [-]
But what about those who study poli-sci?
User avatar #31 to #30 - AquariusCyclone (12/29/2012) [-]
They do know the law, but they might not be able to argue as well as lawyers do. Neither would they necessarily be able to garner enough money for a campaign.
User avatar #33 to #31 - DmOnZ (12/29/2012) [-]
While I agree with your point, and the justifications for law graduates being politicians are pretty air tight, I believe that the political science courses should evolve so that those who actually study politics are more qualified IN politics than those who study law. It's just that, while you may study law, you only really know law and might not fully understand the rest of the necessary content of politics.
User avatar #249 to #33 - AquariusCyclone (12/29/2012) [-]
Perhaps political science majors will know more about voting tendencies are government corruption to make more informed decisions. What if law schools required some political science courses? It would have practical value even for lawyers who don't become congressmen since it allows them to predict changes in the law.
User avatar #35 - sportsgif (12/29/2012) [-]
>job is making laws
>being surprised that the people making laws are lawyers and businessmen
#103 to #35 - eyecontacthandjob (12/29/2012) [-]
They are not always creating laws. As in the case of the fiscal cliff (US), they are analyzing markets and regulating monetary policy that will affect the rest of the world.
They are not always creating laws. As in the case of the fiscal cliff (US), they are analyzing markets and regulating monetary policy that will affect the rest of the world.
#37 to #35 - doctorgiano (12/29/2012) [-]
Laws are made to protect the interests of people, and you are not required to have a certain profession to become part of congress. With such a small demography only a small percentage of people are guaranteed to be looked after.
User avatar #38 to #37 - sportsgif (12/29/2012) [-]
But it would make sense that people who know a lot about laws or the nature of laws would be the most fit to decide them. I think scientists would be a little biased towards saying yes to a bill that allows more science research. Specializing in a law is SUPPOSED to be the ultimate neutrality, but that's obviously not the case.
#40 to #38 - doctorgiano (12/29/2012) [-]
I see your point, but then remember that in order for a law to pass it has to be presented to a lot of people, congress, senate, etc. someone should know how laws work in the mean time, and be able to refine it, or reject it (as it happens).
And well, if lets say, a biologist makes it to congress, he would look forward for things such as environment conservation, cancer research, etc. "Law people" tend to look forward for their demographic interests (lobbyists, exemplify this), and well, that is why the housing market fell in the US, laws that unregulated the way loans work ended up screwing everyone up
User avatar #42 to #40 - sportsgif (12/29/2012) [-]
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were doomed from the start. Maybe we do need more non-law majors in Congress.
#63 to #38 - Visual (12/29/2012) [-]
You have to admit, putting more laws on scientific research than worrying about stupid religious **** is a better way for civilisation to head in.

Religion is obsolete and doesn't really need a place in the government anyways.
User avatar #65 to #63 - sportsgif (12/29/2012) [-]
It's protected. Government should make no laws regarding the establishment of religion and the free exercise thereof. I have no idea why it causes more problems then it does.
User avatar #66 to #65 - Visual (12/29/2012) [-]
It's probably because there are ********* in the government who are trying to bypass that law to enforce their ****** beliefs on the rest of the country.
User avatar #14 - gilliam (12/28/2012) [-]
The rest is to busy doing actual life, instead of politics and buisnes.
User avatar #98 - Jackimole (12/29/2012) [-]
You don't think lawyers make good lawmakers? It's not like they're law experts or anything...
But more diversity wouldn't be a bad thing.
User avatar #116 to #98 - fourtwentt (12/29/2012) [-]
most the jewd good ones make more influencing the law than actually making it
User avatar #118 to #116 - Jackimole (12/29/2012) [-]
If you're really greedy, I don't think I'd want you to be a senator anyway, so it works out for the best!
User avatar #123 to #98 - supamonkey (12/29/2012) [-]
Forgetting that lawyers have a reputation of being corrupt slimy bastards for a reason.
User avatar #124 to #123 - supamonkey (12/29/2012) [-]
And the politicians you see who have come from law always skirt around questions. A scientist would give you an answer or say "I don't know, but I'm going to find out."
User avatar #130 to #123 - paulohd (12/29/2012) [-]
Engineers can be just as corrupt.
#13 - pineapplepeople ONLINE (12/28/2012) [-]
And the historians! And the computer technicians! And the rappers! Wait... one of these things just doesn't belong here...
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#210 to #13 - nathiuz (12/29/2012) [-]
Adviser: "Mister President! The Soviets are moving a number of medium range ballistic missiles along with an as of yet undetermined amount of warheads with nuclear payloads towards Cuba! What should we do?"

President: "Man, Cuba? Dem ****** just jelly 'cos our swag. Tell dem bitches to get a drank 'coz they Thirsty. Tell 'em to light a bowl and just chill 'coz YOLO."

Adviser: "... Cuba is a country off the southern tip of Florida, Mister President."

President: "Sheeeiiiit, tell them chill too, we'll have 'em all over in the Whizz-ite Hizz-ouse, f'real."
User avatar #16 to #13 - graydiggy (12/28/2012) [-]
Definitely historians.

User avatar #21 to #13 - hammerfell (12/29/2012) [-]
Computer Technicians. Historians might know enough to succeed, and rappers may be popular enough to get elected. Being a celebrity worked for Reagan and Schwartzeneg- Schwarzaneg- Schwarsen- **** it, the Terminator dude.
#166 - ishotthedeputy ONLINE (12/29/2012) [-]
-"So, ishotthedeputy, what's your major?"   
-"Oh I'm in mechanical engineering"   
-"Well that's good. You know the world needs engineers right now. So what do you plan on doing after college?"   
-"I think I'm going to be a senator"   
-"So, ishotthedeputy, what's your major?"
-"Oh I'm in mechanical engineering"
-"Well that's good. You know the world needs engineers right now. So what do you plan on doing after college?"
-"I think I'm going to be a senator"

User avatar #186 to #166 - Zeratul (12/29/2012) [-]
Scientists and engineers have too much integrity to go into politics. It's a tragedy that the people with the brains to run a country will usually have no interest in doing so.
#203 to #186 - anon (12/29/2012) [-]
I bet that if you put scientists and engineers in the senate they will probably be just as corrupt as lawyers and others. After all they are people too.
User avatar #212 to #203 - palmtoyourface (12/29/2012) [-]
actually.......i agree with you....o.o
#189 to #186 - ishotthedeputy ONLINE (12/29/2012) [-]
I'd rather have someone lie to swing a few votes than have a guy disregard significant digits to make a quick buck
User avatar #144 - theelderscrolls (12/29/2012) [-]
>Go to collage
>Get bachelors degree, major in biology
>go back to get Masters and major in biology
>go back and get PH.D in biology
>become a senator

See? Its all about the profession, i dont want businessmen building **** in space.
User avatar #159 to #144 - AlfredNeuman (12/29/2012) [-]
i guess if you were a biologist you could say "we need _____ law to protect the wildlife or to protect the health of the public" or something like that
#234 to #159 - anon (12/29/2012) [-]
That why we elect senators, so that they will hear what we need and discuss it in the senate.
#10 - anon (12/28/2012) [-]
The rest of those people are out doing something that matters, instead of sitting on their asses, pretending to know **** .
#155 - darthacerbus (12/29/2012) [-]
Wait, are you telling me the people who make laws shouldn't have a degree in law?
Wait, are you telling me the people who make laws shouldn't have a degree in law?
User avatar #171 to #155 - techketzer (12/29/2012) [-]
Societies are kybernetic systems.
I'd rather they'd have a degree in engineering.
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#204 - mericafuckyeah (12/29/2012) [-]
The scientists are doing science.... what they were trained to do
User avatar #192 - warbob (12/29/2012) [-]
Well what about the homeless people?There should be homeless people in the senate because they know the homeless people's problems.
#1 - anon (12/28/2012) [-]
Ever seen a congressman trying to launch a NASA rocket?
#4 to #1 - anon (12/28/2012) [-]
Why yes i have.
#132 - thatsmrnoob (12/29/2012) [-]
and suddenly everyone on fj are experts on politics, and start arguing over dumb 			****		 on a small website that barley anyone has ever heard of, thinking they can change someones mind
and suddenly everyone on fj are experts on politics, and start arguing over dumb **** on a small website that barley anyone has ever heard of, thinking they can change someones mind
#141 to #132 - migzdgreat (12/29/2012) [-]
Yeah, I ain't never heard of this site. No barley has ever heard of this site.
User avatar #145 to #141 - thatsmrnoob (12/29/2012) [-]
i cant tell if your joking, so if you're serious go to some random peep on the street an ask him if he goes to funnyjunk. his answer is probably gonna be " da **** you talkin about"
User avatar #147 to #145 - migzdgreat (12/29/2012) [-]
The joke is that you said barley instead of barely so yeah. ^Barley up in this.
User avatar #148 to #147 - thatsmrnoob (12/29/2012) [-]
ah my bad
User avatar #64 - sonicg (12/29/2012) [-]
I'm waiting for politicians that have Associate's Degrees in things like Welding and Auto/Body Mechanics. Then we might just have somebody that gives a good and proper **** about the people.

Blue collar master race. Dirty white collar peasants.
User avatar #74 to #64 - herecomesjohnny (12/29/2012) [-]
i'm pretty sure there are auto mechanics that are also opportunistic assholes, just as there are good people who are white collars.

There are assholes and good people everywhere, gandhi was a lawyer and hitler a painter, don't be judgmental
User avatar #117 to #74 - sonicg (12/29/2012) [-]
I will judge all I want. If you went to Law school or majored in Business I will point and laugh at your stupidity for choosing something so useless, that in the event that you need to do something outside of an office (Like changing the oil in your car), you're ****** . Do something that actually contributes to society not just your pocket.

Integrity and your word is more useful and worth far more than a green piece of paper.
User avatar #152 to #117 - herecomesjohnny (12/29/2012) [-]
that's a bit of an illiterate opinion, dude.
User avatar #158 to #152 - sonicg (12/29/2012) [-]
I think you may be mixing up your terminology there. Assuming I'm illiterate implies that not only do I not know how to read, it also says I don't know how to write, which as you can see here, is untrue. Either way, I stand by my statements as they represent a system of my demeanor toward human nature as a whole.
User avatar #160 to #158 - herecomesjohnny (12/29/2012) [-]
yeah, nah, playing on words and turning phrases isn't going to help your case, you still sound like that old alzheimer's neighbor that blames jews for everything. Blaming an entire societal domain's ******* retarded.
User avatar #209 to #160 - sonicg (12/29/2012) [-]
Who said that I was, 'Blaming an entire societal domain'? If you read my past three comments without your head up your ass, you may come to realize that I, like you, have my opinions on certain things. I personally feel that Lawyers and Businessmen are useless twats that serve no purpose aside from padding their pocketbook and make rules that endanger the well being of your 'Average Joe'. They're like a parasite that works it's way into the brain and slowly chips away at the areas that control the spine and limbs until the body has gone from strong and able to a vegetable-like state that merely sits there and sucks up oxygen with only a few vital things in good working condition such as the heart, stomach and brain whilst remaining completely dependent on outside sources to sustain life (i.e., Outsourcing and borrowing money from other countries) whilst keeping vital organs like the heart, brain and liver alive (i.e., the rich and famous, those on welfare and the government itself).

So as I stated ever so bluntly before, pull your head out of your ass. It's time to wake up and see the world for what it really is Nancy-boy. If your reaction to my words is any indication as to what your are and/or aspire to be, you're another one of the aforementioned leeches on society that is too scared to get his hands dirty and woud rather make himself comfortable by ruining the lives of others.
User avatar #215 to #209 - herecomesjohnny (12/29/2012) [-]
lel, whatever, redneck roger
User avatar #216 to #215 - sonicg (12/29/2012) [-]
What, now that you have been thoroughly beaten via use of superior logic and reasoning you decide to quit? Damn kid, try finishing your battles or respectfully bow out in defeat, don't just run away with your tail between your legs.
User avatar #217 to #216 - herecomesjohnny (12/29/2012) [-]
nah, in 3rd grade i asked what was the legislative and judiciary system to Mr. Franklin and he told me, i don't gotta explain **** anymore.

In fifth grade i asked what was finance and globalisation, and i think it was Mrs. Chu that answered me, and now i know.

Unless i'm Mr. Franklin or Mrs. Chu and you're an infant learning about stuff, i ain't gotta explain **** .
User avatar #223 to #217 - sonicg (12/29/2012) [-]
You're not even making any points to validate yourself. Did you not pay attention in Freshman Year English? Ethos, Pathos, Logos, prerequisites of the foundation for any debate you decide to engage yourself in, without them you're little more than a squawking gull on the beach. You didn't even address the words to which you replied. You're just like a politician, trying to turn things around without facing the issue at hand, that or you're just some 14 year old with little or no fundemental knowledge of the inner-workings of reality.
User avatar #225 to #223 - herecomesjohnny (12/29/2012) [-]
i lol'd at how the more i'm calling you dumb the more you're being clumsily lyrical, thanks for the laugh
User avatar #227 to #225 - sonicg (12/29/2012) [-]
Once again, you have failed to address the topic at hand. You are now officially one notch away from 'legally retarded'. Good day.
User avatar #230 to #227 - herecomesjohnny (12/29/2012) [-]
pressuring me to justify why legal defense and finance are useful are basically like a mentally challenged five year old asking me what does the pee pee do,

you basically don't know where to begin

but yeah, good day, and good luck huntin' em jews and commies and dirty ol' politicians playing poker with all 'em lawyers, tryin' to manipulat' yer freedoms YEEHAAWW
User avatar #213 to #209 - sonicg (12/29/2012) [-]
In the process of writing that I repeated the portion involving the individual organs, which is to be disregarded.
#131 to #117 - anon (12/29/2012) [-]
Your level of stupidity amuses me.
#139 to #117 - anon (12/29/2012) [-]
yes, actually imagine a world where the people who are paid to serve the people actually served the people instead of serving themselves to all the back handshakes or do nothing. etceteraaaaa. and then turn around on t.v everyday and paint some ******** story about how great they are.
#224 - astafarianp (12/29/2012) [-]
I don't know if a scientist would make a good senator since that aren't well versed in law and politics. However i think it would help if politicians actually knew some science which half of them don't, like this great man who's on the House Science Committee.
#226 to #224 - astafarianp (12/29/2012) [-]
Also Dan Quayle's son is on the House Science Committee. That tells you how ****** up congress is.
#266 to #226 - anon (01/03/2013) [-]
That's as inane as your assumption about Dan Quayles son. Guilt by association.
#267 to #266 - astafarianp (01/03/2013) [-]
You've obviously never heard his son speak.
#178 - anon (12/29/2012) [-]
I hate how condescending scientists and engineers come across.
#182 to #178 - anon (12/29/2012) [-]
We're better than you, and we know it!
*insert White Goodman face*
#128 - sweateagle (12/29/2012) [-]
You will earn not only thumbs, but respect IF you state the fact that your content is a repost.
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