Atheism comp 3. Some of the better ones I've been able to find, hope you like. EDIT: I apologize some of these turned out too small. I think it shouldn't be too Atheism comp 3 Some of the better ones I've been able to find hope you like EDIT: I apologize some these turned out too small think it shouldn't be
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Atheism comp 3. Some of the better ones I've been able to find, hope you like. EDIT: I apologize some of these turned out too small. I think it shouldn't be too

Some of the better ones I've been able to find, hope you like.
EDIT: I apologize some of these turned out too small. I think it shouldn't be too hard to read them but I'd rather not delete this and enlarge them with the possibility of distorting the image and making it worse.

If you don't, I am not trying to start a ********* but hell I do love them and joining in. So trust me you are just making my day better by overreacting and thinking I am trying to offend anyone.

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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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#29 - xsap
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whenever you ask someone how they know that there IS a god
#48 to #29 - masterboll
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(pic related)
User avatar #30 to #29 - noblexfenrir [OP]
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I wish I could find the video, but there's a conversation between Eric Hovind and Thunderf00t and he asks Eric if people who are in insane asylums who said god talked to them and they had faith it was god and not a medical disorder are actually insane, ofcourse Eric said yes. So then he is asked "Well how do you know you aren't one of these people?" "Because I have faith in my god"...

Just ******* facepalm mate..
#14 - robertelee
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**robertelee rolled a random image posted in comment #171 at Female Body Types **

as a catholic person that participates in church every weekend intelligence often overpowers "faith" is there a god i don't know and i don't care to know because by the time you actually find out its to late i was watching a show the other day something about Greek gods and it made feasible sense its aliens chariots of fire from the sky and such we've all been to school i believe there was a Jesus of Nazareth the walking on water "miraculously" curing ailments maybe an advanced life form who knows but if thats the case then all said and done science always wins
#57 to #14 - anon id: 264893a9
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I would be very interested in seeing that lady in the picture in a Catholic school girl dress.
Relevant? You decide.
User avatar #39 to #14 - illegalartist
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You might find punctuation school more helpful than Sunday school...
#21 to #14 - sephrax
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Learn to use periods at the end of a sentence. And capitalize the first letter of each sentence.
User avatar #47 to #21 - robertelee
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blow me .
User avatar #56 - stonemanr
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atheism & science = religion
User avatar #58 to #56 - noblexfenrir [OP]
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You are so wrong, it's hilarious.
User avatar #59 to #58 - stonemanr
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no
User avatar #61 to #59 - noblexfenrir [OP]
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Atheism = The rejection of the claims made by theists.
Science = The process by which evidence is collected and categorized.

Absolutely none of that has to do with religion, I mean it was a cute idea, but it's been said before and it's still wrong.
User avatar #62 to #61 - stonemanr
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wrong
#40 - thatguyuthinkuknow
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My favorite thing about these religious posts that cite a part of the bible is that it allows me to look it up in my bible and see what it says word for word myself.
My favorite thing about these religious posts that cite a part of the bible is that it allows me to look it up in my bible and see what it says word for word myself.
User avatar #41 to #40 - noblexfenrir [OP]
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As everyone should, removes that whole "taken out of context" aspect.
User avatar #43 to #41 - thatguyuthinkuknow
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absolutely, and its kinda hard to believe that in just 2 stanzas it could say that the lord used bears to murder 42 little kids, but i looked it up... pretty damn close
User avatar #44 to #43 - noblexfenrir [OP]
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Yeah lol, small alteration made for comedic effect in the comic, but yeah there is a large collection of stories like this that they really don't teach in sunday school for obvious reasons.
User avatar #45 to #44 - thatguyuthinkuknow
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never been to a religious school myself, but i'm sure they have a censored or readers digest version to tell stories from
#13 - pava
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Atheists claiming that: "If you believe in God, you must be retarded." are just as judgemental/obnoxious as christians claiming that all homosexuals go to hell.

Oh, and I have always hated the Penn Jillette quote. He (and the persons quoting him) clearly don't know anything about philosophy of science and epistermology.
User avatar #20 to #13 - noblexfenrir [OP]
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Well if they say it that way then yes, however I hardly see any atheist say that. It's commonly expressed as a logically unsound belief, and many atheists would call theists delusional and ignorant. Much different than calling them retarded.

and I'm fine with someone not liking Penn Jillette however, in his quote here is not wrong, and you would have to clarify how this shows him (or apparently me through connection of quoting him) not understanding the science behind it.
#22 to #20 - pava
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I don't think it's uncommon to meet atheists that think theists are somewhat 'lesser' people.

I don't really know Jillette (I guess he's known in America - not so much in Europe) so I don't dislike him, but I've encountered the quote a few times, and I think it's flawed.

But what I mean is, that basically every person perceives the world in his own way, as there's differences in how we (think we) obtain knowledge and how we experience the world.
If we started all over again there's no certainty that the scientists will perceive the world the same way as we do today. Perhaps some physical laws would reappear, but what if we had no Darwin or no Polly Matzinger or no John Keynes? There's no one that can tell whether we will get the same scientific paradigms once again.

I think he sees science as an exact and measurable thing, when it often isn't.
User avatar #24 to #22 - noblexfenrir [OP]
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"I don't think it's uncommon to meet atheists that think theists are somewhat 'lesser' people."

Granted, but this doesn't really pertain to atheists specifically, it's expected from any group, even theism.

"But what I mean is, that basically every person perceives the world in his own way, as there's differences in how we (think we) obtain knowledge and how we experience the world.
If we started all over again there's no certainty that the scientists will perceive the world the same way as we do today. Perhaps some physical laws would reappear, but what if we had no Darwin or no Polly Matzinger or no John Keynes? There's no one that can tell whether we will get the same scientific paradigms once again.

I think he sees science as an exact and measurable thing, when it often isn't."


I get what you mean, however what he's saying is that let's take norse gods. People will never recreate specific norse gods to an exact T if everything was restarted. They may create thor and odin and loki, but they might have a different name for nifleheim. Such is the nature of religion, it's purely subjective and as a result can be altered simply by a change of perception on the individual level.

While science will never change in the way Penn is talking about, they may not reproduce our language, our math system, or our labs, but gravity will still exist, and he is saying that eventually they will figure out gravity and it's exact effect on the planet.

A better way of explaining it is: If every human on the planet just up and died, religions on this planet wouldn't exist. However, if every human on the planet just up and died, the answers science has given us remain the same.
#46 to #24 - pava
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I wholeheartedly agree that if we started over tomorrow, it is likely that we would still have Gods, but it would differ from what we have today.

I also agree that science will not change, but what we regard as the truth might.

I know you mention gravity, but I actually avoided mentioning gravity in my previous post as I regard it as a part of the fundamental laws of of nature and they probably wouldn't change too much. But there's much more to science than the laws of physics - eg. medicine and biology.

I think that knowledge comes from what we experience and human reasoning. No one can know if the 'human knowledge' is the absolute truth. Especially because we've been wrong so many times in history, that one might conclude that human knowledge is flawed. Human knowledge is somewhat relative.

'The new world' would have a different set of people, who will likely experience and reason different than us and maybe/maybe not create paradigms that is different from ours, but would still be regarded as science (aka. the truth). Because human knowledge is relative and not absolute.

I can't say I disagree 100 % with the Jillette quote, but I think he views science as something absolute, when it's - more or less - a collection of ideas/theories that we think represent the world _as we know it_. One might say that if we started over, not only religion would change, but what we regard as the truth today would change.
#3 - KungFuZerO
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99% of this I have never seen
Good on you OP
Wish I could thumb you twice
#27 - ronyx
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This will rustle a lot of jimmies.
User avatar #23 - colossusshadow
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It's not that I don't like Atheist jokes, it's that a large number of them aren't actually funny, just Atheists being self-righteous douchebags.
Agnostic here, obviously your **** can't offend me, but you're still assholes 90% of the time.
User avatar #25 to #23 - noblexfenrir [OP]
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Well I posted ones I either found funny, or found interesting, so I wasn't intending on coming off as a self-righteous douchebag.

So are you theist or atheist?
User avatar #26 to #25 - colossusshadow
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>so are you theist or atheist

I'm neither, I'm agnostic, the variety which believe there is a POSSIBILITY of a higher power.

Which means I basically do not give a single **** and don't spend any time of my day thinking about either how much I love God or how much I hate people who love god.
User avatar #28 to #26 - noblexfenrir [OP]
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Wow you have a very skewed perspective of atheism and theism, and also a very wrong idea of what agnosticism is.

From the description you have given me, it shows that you would be considered atheist. I am also agnostic because admit I don't know, however, being agnostic makes no determination of my belief of something. "I don't know" doesn't work as an answer to "do you believe in god?" it only applies to "Is there a god?".

Now atheism is the rejection of the claims made by theists due to lack of evidence, from your explanation theists haven't proven their god to you, thus you are an atheist.

Very simple stuff mate. You need to stop thinking being atheist means someone hates religion and says god doesn't and can never exist, that is false. Hating religion is being anti-theist, and while I am anti-theist it is very different from atheism.

User avatar #51 to #28 - colossusshadow
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Also, you very clearly hate religion if you mock the people who believe in it, yet don't do you any harm..
User avatar #53 to #51 - noblexfenrir [OP]
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I personally am against religion. I said that I am an anti-theist. However, I do not mock anyone who believes in religion, I do though, mock their religion immensely.
User avatar #50 to #28 - colossusshadow
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Agnosticism is the view that the truth values of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, as well as other religious and metaphysical claims.

Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.

In short, you ******* self-righteous dumbass, atheism is saying "THERE IS NO GOD" and Agnosticism is saying "I DON'T KNOW IF THERE COULD BE A GOD."

Very simple stuff you annoying asshole. Learn your god damned ****. I'm not thinking Atheists "hate religion", but the DEFINITION of atheism is that god can't and never will exist.

******* google it, your own self-interpretations of what Atheism is wrong.

User avatar #52 to #50 - noblexfenrir [OP]
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"Agnosticism is the view that the truth values of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, as well as other religious and metaphysical claims. "

I did not dispute this, agnosticism is a determination of KNOWLEDGE not BELIEF.

"Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. "

Atheism is only the rejection of claims made by theists, that is it. Some atheists may go as far to say that there are no gods, however that would be their own belief because they would be making a claim. However, atheism at a base level is exactly how the word is formed (A=Opposite Theism=Belief in a god) thus meaning it only applies disbelief to the gods stated to be true by theists. Best way to put this is, if there were not theists, there would be no atheists, even though a god hypothesis would still be in effect.

"In short, you ******* self-righteous dumbass, atheism is saying "THERE IS NO GOD" and Agnosticism is saying "I DON'T KNOW IF THERE COULD BE A GOD." "

Sigh okay I'll spell it out for you:

"Is there a god?"

Yes/No= Gnosticism.
I don't know= Agnosticism.

Most people even including myself, are agnostic in this sense.

"Do you believe in a god?"
Yes= Theist
No/I don't know= Atheist

(I don't know is essentially "No" to this because it is immediately implying the affirmative is a false assumption, and since atheism is just the refutation of theist claims, that would make anyone saying I don't know, an atheist.)

"Very simple stuff you annoying asshole. Learn your god damned ****. I'm not thinking Atheists "hate religion", but the DEFINITION of atheism is that god can't and never will exist. "

That is gnostic atheism, in which someone is creating a claim with the base definition of atheism. Very different from agnostic atheist.

"******* google it, your own self-interpretations of what Atheism is wrong. "

These aren't my own self-interpretations. Ask any atheist, atheism is simply a rejection of claims made by theists and we are in no way making a claim that there is no god. (unless someone is a gnostic atheist, at which point they are making a claim.)

The definitions you find in online dictionaries are cute but are just a very very basic overview of atheism and don't go at all into detail about the actual definition of it. Like I said, these aren't my own interpretations, almost all atheists will give you the same answer.
#15 - anon id: def2dc15
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The amount of douchebaggery in this post is too damn high.
#16 to #15 - anon id: b522dfeb
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Go ahead, thumb down. They can't un-butthurt you
User avatar #17 to #15 - spidahridah
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Did you read the disclaimer on top..?
User avatar #1 - rainbowisbestpone
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You know why is there religion? People want to believe that there is something more above them. Who cares about them etc. Like Marx said: Religion is opium of the people
User avatar #4 to #1 - noblexfenrir [OP]
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I agree except for one problem religion always seems to carry,

Quick perspective explanation though, I would honestly have no problem with just someone believing in a god, because just 'god' has no baggage whatsoever, where religion does. Even though god is still fundementally flawed logically, it doesn't make claims on reality because it is simply a though experiment given life and not a conclusion given rise from existent events.

Religion however, has some serious baggage. Not only does it come with proclamations and rules that people constantly try to apply to an ever changing world, but it also makes claims of reality that science can disprove quite easily. So my main problem with religion itself is how it promotes ignorance to keep its faith steady, where just simply god relies only on someones personal belief and doesn't even step anywhere near science or reality.
User avatar #5 to #4 - rainbowisbestpone
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First thing: If people would know what they believe in. What are the real rules. Then Religions [not believes, cults etc] wouldn't be any problem. But people are people. There always will be a bad person and good person. no matter what he believes.

[sorry for bad engllish]
User avatar #7 to #5 - noblexfenrir [OP]
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It's fine I think I got what you're trying to say, and I agree, people will apply their religion to fit their person. They use it as more of a tool than as a belief. However I was talking about religion just at a base level, without the human element added. Although we can't completely remove the human element due to religion being a human construct.
User avatar #10 to #7 - rainbowisbestpone
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You can't say about all religions as one..
In modern days Catholic Church [like you say without human element] is actually very Liberal. Comparing to middle ages or after renaissance of course.
With islam is quite different. On middle east there are hard times now. There is always some war there. Most of the times because "there are terrorrists or Dictators [also there is oil]". So Nato need to help people by invading their countries. kill many innocent people etc. This really helps people to be more liberal, to not bielieve in God who will pay them for their hard work, after their death. Where life standard isn't so good like in Europe or USA.