Our Existence. . We live in a exquisitely dependent on science and technology, in which hardly anyone km: rws anything about science and Carl Sagan. it's called specialization.. if we all had to know everything about everything, the world would be filled with nothing but schools, stressed out people and waaa
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Our Existence

We live in a exquisitely
dependent on science and
technology, in which hardly anyone
km: rws anything about science and
Carl Sagan
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#147 - PubLandlord (12/23/2012) [-]
We are so dependent on food , water, financial system , not many people know much about how all of these work either , Like the a couple of posts below , division of labor has allowed to people to specialist in different areas.

Like Tray Ratcliff said, there is no one on this earth who knows how to build a computer mouse.

#139 - I Am Monkey (12/23/2012) [-]
That's a pretty stupid quote. Why should everyone waste time knowing exactly how the technology in their life works? That's completely counterproductive and inefficient. Civilization began when man developed division of labor. Rather than have everyone be equally equip to do ******* , each would hone their skills in a particular area and work in collaboration with others.

The same principal applies today; why should everyone know how their technology works? Are we supposed to spend years studying advanced electronics and computer programming so as not to be condescended to by Mr Sagan? No, we've got to learn something useful so that we might contribute something to society. Not that those things aren't useful, but they'd hardly be if every man on earth had a degree in electrical engineering and nobody to fill every other niche of society.

It's easy to look down from your pedestal on the uneducated peons and say "Bro, do you even science?", but before you do I suggest you take a moment to think who made your clothes, wrote the music on your iPod, picked your vegetables, build your house, because they sure as hell don't have or need a background in science to serve their purpose.
#146 to #139 - swagbot (12/23/2012) [-]

just don't turn this into an excuse to not know ******* anything about science at all.
User avatar #140 to #139 - koolaidsauce (12/23/2012) [-]
User avatar #131 - zonedguru (12/23/2012) [-]
Yeah because people like you complain about it all the time.
#121 - kraetyz (12/23/2012) [-]
Didn't Cracked talk about this somewhere?

People know about science and technology, it's just that we're 10-20 years behind actual scientists. This is because they've studied their entire lives about that specific thing and devoted years to expand on previous research. New discoveries and technologies are come up with every day, and a normal person who might read the news once in a while and remembers most science classes from school won't see all of it. Even if he saw it, he probably wouldn't understand it because, as said, the people working on new technology and top-tier science have studied all their lives for that kind of **** .

I dunno. I just think people shouldn't put too high expectations on each other in regards to scientific knowledge, because if you were to keep up with the news, you wouldn't have time for a job. Unless you become a scientist.
User avatar #128 to #121 - techketzer (12/23/2012) [-]
That's a very reasonable way to look at it. The layman can't really hope to be as knowing as the cutting-edge specialist, that's kind of self-explanatory.

It would be nice and do society as a whole a lot of good if we could reduce that disconnect to a couple of years instead a couple of decades.
Surely there must be a way.
#132 to #128 - kraetyz (12/23/2012) [-]
Not really. We can only cut it down by as long as the people working on top-tier stuff have studied. Considering most true breakthroughs in physics come from people in their 40s and up, I wouldn't bet on making that gap smaller. The common man will always be behind, but I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
User avatar #134 to #132 - techketzer (12/23/2012) [-]
I have to respectfully disagree with that.
It's possible to cut down the delay to the amount of time it takes to explain it to a layman.

It took roughly ten-thousand years to formulate Newton's law of universal gravitation for the first time while it took my physics teacher a single lesson to explain it to me, along with how and why it is not the best model we have any more.
And that's a good thing, no doubt.
#138 to #134 - kraetyz (12/23/2012) [-]
Oh yeah, you're right about that. xD Good way to put it.
User avatar #120 - MythBuster (12/23/2012) [-]
i don't like this quote.. here's the definition of technology "The application of scientific knowledge for practical purposes." scientists and inventors do their thing to make us smarter as a whole. back hundreds of years ago, to become amazing at math, it took money and knowledge. since the invention of the calculator, you really don't need either to do so functions that would have deemed you a genius if we were in those days. i think this quote makes Mr. Sagan look like a prick, why should you have to know how something works if there's someone smart enough to do that for you?
User avatar #130 to #120 - techketzer (12/23/2012) [-]
Well, many wonders of engineering back in the day (windmills, watermills, etc.) were constructed by people who had no clue what the hell a basic multiplication was.
Still, they built machines and mechanisms likely neither of us both would be able to create in their stead.

Why know and understand something yourself when there's someone else to do it for you?
Simple. If something happens to that guy, the knowledge isn't lost if you're there to carry on. You yourself might have to be that "someone else" one day.
User avatar #135 to #130 - MythBuster (12/23/2012) [-]
that doesn't bring up a valid argument... the guy invented something and people follow the patent and instructions and continue to make it without necessarily knowing the science behind it ... books and media make it so it's not necessary to know everything off the top of our heads.
User avatar #136 to #135 - techketzer (12/23/2012) [-]
Yes, no one has to know it by heart; but once we lose understanding of the basic principle it's only a matter of time until we lose the technology itself.
User avatar #137 to #136 - MythBuster (12/23/2012) [-]
..... but we won't.. as long as humans need a technology, people will learn it.. that's called a job. in most cases, in any given career field, you get paid more by difficulty or demand of the technology making that the reason that a relevant technology will never just disappear.. increase in demand for a career field means and increase in income, means it's a bigger appeal to people, meaning that they will learn whatever it is that they need to learn
#119 - anonymous (12/23/2012) [-]
dude. i have that thought everyday.
#111 - Supercolton (12/23/2012) [-]
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User avatar #103 - Sethorein ONLINE (12/23/2012) [-]
reminds me of a quote from John Wyndham... kinda...

"Most of your power is being used to build machines to consume power faster and faster, while your sources of power remain finite. There can only be one end to that". -John Wyndham
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User avatar #118 to #102 - MythBuster (12/23/2012) [-]
isn't the whole energy thing a theory? it kind of contradicts itself when you think about the beginning of the universe
User avatar #114 to #102 - Lilstow (12/23/2012) [-]
that kinda makes me think of the twist ending to the original Fullmetal Alchemist anime.

I am referring to the fact that alchemy's energy came from a parallel universe (our universe in WWII) and that the energy was from the death of people.
#106 to #102 - Sethorein ONLINE (12/23/2012) [-]
...buddy no...

We know what the energies are. Heat and Work. Neither of these things are "life". Life is just a chain of chemical reactions that increase the order of a specific system. How these reactions are capable of occurring is entirely dependent on the massive amounts of Entropy and Waste Heat generated by the sun.

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User avatar #109 to #108 - shouldnt (12/23/2012) [-]
Shouldnt we?
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User avatar #112 to #110 - Sethorein ONLINE (12/23/2012) [-]
it would be more accurate to say we ought to be energy conscious because we've started to run out of new sources of energy that can do work.

The second world war ended when nuclear power started. It wasn't dead people that caused the boom, it was a new source of energy. There are endless reasons for why the boom period occured. The public works projects and militarization of the American economy is certainly one aspect of the period. Another might be the baby boomers vastly increasing the strength of the work force. You don't need pseudoscience to explain perfectly rational events xD
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#104 to #102 - anonymous (12/23/2012) [-]
you are the biggest pseudo-intellectual ever
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User avatar #74 - illumiknight (12/23/2012) [-]
In 1969, Nasa took three men to the moon. All of their technology combined is about equal to an iPhone.
#100 to #74 - Moosoulja (12/23/2012) [-]
Actually the phone reference is like 10 years old, they said it was more than the phone in the comparison. An iphone is vastly more advanced than anything used in the moon landing.
Actually the phone reference is like 10 years old, they said it was more than the phone in the comparison. An iphone is vastly more advanced than anything used in the moon landing.
User avatar #115 to #100 - ilovehitler (12/23/2012) [-]
Whenever people say that, I can only think "yeah, but can your phone get people to the moon?"
#99 to #74 - anonymous (12/23/2012) [-]
Hahahaha sure keep believing that NASA took men to the moon.
#125 to #99 - coolcalx (12/23/2012) [-]
0/10 troll, but if you want proof, you can watch footage of the moon rove and you'll see dust particles being shot into a parabolic arc from the wheels. if you calculate the trajectory of the dust, you'll see that it's impossible for this to have taken place on Earth, as the gravity would have to be significantly less than Earth's. (you can't change gravity. you'd have to leave the Earth to cause that effect)
User avatar #116 to #99 - ilovehitler (12/23/2012) [-]
You're right, it was Hitler.
He's been behind everything good that has happened.
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User avatar #86 to #77 - kamehamehanurd (12/23/2012) [-]
No, it was the computers, they were about as powerful as an iPhone. Give or take a couple minor specs.
User avatar #87 to #86 - illumiknight (12/23/2012) [-]
Thanks for clearing that up for me.
User avatar #80 to #77 - illumiknight (12/23/2012) [-]
To be honest, I have no idea. It was just something I saw on Yahoo a while back.
#66 - anonymous (12/23/2012) [-]
No matter how smart humans can be, one day he will die when the angel of death comes. At this point, it was too late to regret his ignorance.
User avatar #117 to #66 - ilovehitler (12/23/2012) [-]
If I understand what you're saying, it's "one day we will all die".

Sure, sure. One day the universe might end and kill us all.
But I'd still like to have death of our species prolonged as much as possible.
#70 to #66 - GOmagikarp (12/23/2012) [-]
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User avatar #64 to #61 - Mahazama (12/23/2012) [-]
What I said was retarded. Religion is good for keeping morality in humans, but Science has to trump it eventually.
#73 to #64 - GOmagikarp (12/23/2012) [-]
science itself will never trump religion, it will only give us more and more proof against it. the only way is if we learn to live as good people without it. i know its what i just said, but i wanted to add that.
#71 to #64 - GOmagikarp (12/23/2012) [-]
science trumps religion when we all become smart enough to realize that we can live as morally good people, without religion.
User avatar #75 to #71 - Mahazama (12/23/2012) [-]
Athiests can live as morally good people.
So does science trump religion?
#83 to #75 - GOmagikarp (12/23/2012) [-]
not science, like i said, science will just continually give us more and more things that can be looked at in ways that disprove a god. but only people realizing that the morality that is associated with a religion can still be lived out, but without all the disrespect for those who dont think the same way.
User avatar #89 to #83 - Mahazama (12/23/2012) [-]
"not science, like i said, science will just continually give us more and more things that can be looked at in ways that disprove a god."
Science isn't out to "disprove a god", science is there to enlighten us on the way things work out. How much science "disproves god" is entirely up to how willing you are to accept that science explains what religion hasn't.
#90 to #89 - GOmagikarp (12/23/2012) [-]
exactly, science gives us things that can be looked at in such ways to disprove the current theories religion calls the truth.
User avatar #91 to #90 - Mahazama (12/23/2012) [-]
So what's more important, that theists continue to believe that their religion is truth, out of respect for their beliefs? Or that instead, we try to show them the truth, and bring humanity's average IQ up a whole 40 points?
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#58 - pepemex (12/23/2012) [-]
If he's so smart, how come he's dead?
User avatar #57 - radtroll ONLINE (12/23/2012) [-]
I always wondered, if we had some kine of a global disaster and everything got destroyed, how long will it take us to rebuild the world as we know today ?
seems scary since most people don't know **** about how anything works ..
User avatar #129 to #57 - piecejr (12/23/2012) [-]
Not to mention how much porn would be lost.... Oh god, does anyone keep hard copies of porn? god dammit what if there's a disaster and no one has anymore porn...
User avatar #59 to #57 - yunablade (12/23/2012) [-]
Thats why we have so many databases and books in safeheavens to keep knowledge from disapearing.

Even if it were to disappear we would most surely rediscover it with time
User avatar #60 to #59 - radtroll ONLINE (12/23/2012) [-]
that's why I believe that keeping hard copies of important information is a must, keeping them as computer data is not safe
User avatar #56 - wbossint (12/23/2012) [-]
Society breeds youth to want to be movie stars and singers when they grow up.
Society pays too much attention to celebrities.

Ironically, I think movies are a great vehicle to change that. Hollywood can figure out ways to make being a congressman cool. They probably already have. Otherwise, who in their right mind would want to be a politician rather than a movie star who bangs models?
User avatar #54 - chubberbrother (12/23/2012) [-]
"It is a gift from the people of Illinois to the human future."
What Carl Sagan said about my school.
#53 - xtremedeath (12/23/2012) [-]
I read the quote...then saw Carl Sagan   
Remember Familiy Guy Redneck Episode.
I read the quote...then saw Carl Sagan

Remember Familiy Guy Redneck Episode.
User avatar #55 to #53 - heroicvenom (12/23/2012) [-]
#85 to #55 - anonymous (12/23/2012) [-]
If that is so, then who created God?
User avatar #107 to #85 - mcderfenschmirt (12/23/2012) [-]
Maybe he created himself.....or HERself.
User avatar #93 to #85 - tehlulzbringer (12/23/2012) [-]
God was created by Velociraptors
User avatar #51 - xhelliscoldx (12/23/2012) [-]
we live in a society were pizza gets to your house before the cops
#48 - deadmuerto (12/23/2012) [-]
**deadmuerto rolled a random image posted in comment #30 at All of my want ** my specialty
#68 to #48 - drsalty (12/23/2012) [-]
the government's postition regarding a manned mission to mars.
#72 to #68 - deadmuerto (12/23/2012) [-]
they found out there were no Mars Bars
#76 to #72 - drsalty (12/23/2012) [-]
None? crap.
#79 to #76 - deadmuerto (12/23/2012) [-]
also Democrats are in power and it's a RED planet
#82 to #79 - drsalty (12/23/2012) [-]
Partisanship strikes again! or maybe they didn't want to affiliate with martians, knowing their warlike nature and how much libs are total hippies.
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