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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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User avatar #3 - thelastamerican
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Canada has a pretty cool health care system. Japan's health care is ****** up though. Proof that universal health can be done right, and wrong.
#152 to #3 - anon id: c97db35c
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Norway*
#195 to #3 - anon id: def089a4
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What's wrong with Japan's health care?
User avatar #209 to #195 - thelastamerican
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Read below mate.
#9 to #3 - mdawgsome **User deleted account**
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#50 to #9 - anon id: 21f9304e
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Wong soungs korean or chinese, not japanese
User avatar #15 to #9 - thelastamerican
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Oh god, that's terrible, I shouldn't find it so funny. Yeah, a guy my dad was working with at Mitsubishi came down with terminal leukemia. He died before he was treated and it took him three years to die.
#146 to #9 - Schofield
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User avatar #28 - lazorman
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fixed:
"treatment is free, but you're on a 2 month waiting list"
User avatar #30 to #28 - manofparody
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This.
#48 to #30 - savvz
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I had a chronic bone disorder that would have been stable for years but I was in surgery 2 weeks after diagnosis. Stop believing everything Fox tells you.
#29 to #28 - fxremastered
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#40 to #28 - anon id: f6298f11
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Thanks for taking the funny out of the content.
#43 to #28 - anon id: e06f9723
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Only took me a week to get my cancer surgery, all clear now. (From Canada)
User avatar #45 to #43 - anonymoose
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did you died?
User avatar #46 to #45 - angelious
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he is kill
#47 to #46 - anonymoose
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He was my favourite anon.
User avatar #55 to #46 - Metallicock
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no
#107 to #43 - douevensax
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User avatar #115 to #28 - niggerinagangbang **User deleted account**
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> live in Denmark
>free universal healthcare
>treatment guarantee within a month
???
>profit

Pay 50% in taxes
#31 to #28 - uberfionn
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Only two months?
Thats not too long a wait.
User avatar #32 to #31 - lazorman
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for cancer? naw, that's not too serious.
#42 to #32 - uberfionn
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Depends on the cancer really, some cancers they don't even treat.
#51 to #28 - arandomanon
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Where I live, waiting lists are so long that my grandfather died waiting. 1 year waiting and 2 years after he passed away, the hospital called saying they could start treatment that day.
User avatar #96 to #51 - ViXi
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That is one hell of a slap in the face.
User avatar #90 - SteyrAUG
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Almost. You got the time frame wrong.

Person calls to make appointment:
We can get you in sometime around February.

February:
You have cancer, we start treatment in 1 week.

1 week later:
Your cancer is terminal, if you had started treatment 10 weeks ago you would have had a chance.
#93 to #90 - lesmiserables
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I don't know about Canada, but in Denmark (we have nearly the same sort of universal healthcare, including the extreme long waitinglists) we have private hospitals too, where you can go if you have money.
#121 to #90 - lordcuntdestroyer
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My father was diagnosed with Adisson's disease, and his treatment began the day he was diagnosed.

The only case where you wait an extended period of time in Canada ( > 2 weeks) is when your ailment isn't serious and others need immediate attention more.
#13 - silverweeds
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I heard stories about people coming across the us boarder to have surgery done because the waiting lists,malpractice, and general incompetence of doctors over there. I guess you get what you pay for..oh wait..Hah.
#49 to #13 - anon id: 21f9304e
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i am pretty sure that canadian millonaires are eager to cross the border and pay $200000 to have a private room and Olivia wilde as their private nurse
but apart from them, i doubt anyone does it
#78 to #13 - anon id: a39872be
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I am an American and I know that's ********
#109 to #13 - douevensax
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Not sure if troll or redneck.
User avatar #18 to #13 - aerius
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why would they do that? You realise there are still private surgeons right? If you'd prefer to pay for an operation instead of going on the waiting list you can.
User avatar #16 to #13 - paulohd
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I've lived in Canada my whole life and have never heard of that. And have never had problems with any doctors.
#118 - IceViper
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he started making meth to provide for his family after he dies because the cancer was determined as terminal regardless of treatment that would make him live longer
he started making meth to provide for his family after he dies because the cancer was determined as terminal regardless of treatment that would make him live longer
User avatar #125 to #118 - enorus
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It's a joke.
User avatar #126 to #125 - IceViper
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yeah but the reference to the tv show was wrong
#184 to #126 - seththeginger
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not necessarily. He started to pay for his treatment but kept cooking to provide for his family.
#94 - wolfypolli
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>move to Europe for a few years because of work.   
>covered under the Dutch socialized health insurance   
>get weird spot on leg   
>go to doctor's office   
>wait an hour   
>get seen, doctor looks at it for 5 seconds and says it's a bacterial infection, puts me on 4 grams of penicillin a day for 2 weeks   
>still not gone, looking even worse   
>get forwarded to dermatologist   
>spend the rest 2 months getting prescribed a bunch of crap   
>finally takes a skin sample, turns out to be a fungal infection, both my legs are covered in infection at this point   
>finally see a dermatologist that knows what he's talking about   
>all the stuff they've been giving me has only been making things much worse. And the infection now has a bacterial infection on it   
>also my mom was in the hospital for 6 months for her heart operation because they kept ******* things up   
>mfw socialized healthcare   
inb4 red thumbed to oblivion by raging libtards because I insulted their holy socialized healthcare. I agree the system in the US isn't perfect. There should be a way for everyone to have at least some form of healthcare. But don't **** the entire system up for the people that can pay for it by converting to socialized healthcare.
>move to Europe for a few years because of work.
>covered under the Dutch socialized health insurance
>get weird spot on leg
>go to doctor's office
>wait an hour
>get seen, doctor looks at it for 5 seconds and says it's a bacterial infection, puts me on 4 grams of penicillin a day for 2 weeks
>still not gone, looking even worse
>get forwarded to dermatologist
>spend the rest 2 months getting prescribed a bunch of crap
>finally takes a skin sample, turns out to be a fungal infection, both my legs are covered in infection at this point
>finally see a dermatologist that knows what he's talking about
>all the stuff they've been giving me has only been making things much worse. And the infection now has a bacterial infection on it
>also my mom was in the hospital for 6 months for her heart operation because they kept ******* things up
>mfw socialized healthcare
inb4 red thumbed to oblivion by raging libtards because I insulted their holy socialized healthcare. I agree the system in the US isn't perfect. There should be a way for everyone to have at least some form of healthcare. But don't **** the entire system up for the people that can pay for it by converting to socialized healthcare.
User avatar #100 to #94 - Endofzeeworld
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Tis truly the bane of socialized healthcare.
User avatar #101 to #100 - wolfypolli
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You get what you pay for.
User avatar #136 to #94 - spidahridah
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I fail to see your logic at all here. That was an unfortunate incident, getting a bad doctor. That has nothing to do with socialized healthcare systems at all. You might as well have paid an American doctor privately, who were just as bad.
User avatar #137 to #136 - wolfypolli
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This isn't just one incident. And they were multiple doctors that ****** up.
I also need a shoulder operation, the "specialist" in Holland told me to just get a desk job and don't do any heavy lifting. So now I need to get it done in the states.
The dermatologist that knew what he was talking about was the only healthcare specialist in Holland that I've had a positive experience with.
User avatar #138 to #137 - spidahridah
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Then your conclusion should be that Dutch doctors in that area are bad, not that socialized healthcare is bad.
User avatar #141 to #138 - wolfypolli
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I've been treated by doctors all over the country.
User avatar #142 to #141 - spidahridah
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Then your conclusion should be that Dutch doctors are bad, not that socialized healthcare is bad.
User avatar #144 to #142 - wolfypolli
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There's a few real private specialists here that do a decent job. But those are not covered and cost insane amounts of money. The ones that are covered by socialized healthcare are bad. And form what I hear the same problem arises in other countries with socialized healthcare.
You get what you pay for.
User avatar #145 to #144 - spidahridah
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I'm from Scandinavia, where necessary healthcare is free, and also considered some of the best in the world. I don't think you can ultimately assume that socialized healthcare is terrible everywhere, just because of bad experiences at one place. Or from what you've "heard" for that matter.
User avatar #151 to #145 - asschwitz
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Most of the time socialized healthcare doesn't work out so well. Doctors all get payed a similar amount, so why should they strive to be better? They can half ass it and make just as much money. That's why many good doctors come to America, because the better you are, the more money you will make.
User avatar #158 to #151 - spidahridah
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You don't get the purpose of free healthcare. It is to provide vital necessities for people whom are in bad economic situations. If you're not happy with government employed doctors, then go see private doctors, whom you imply are so much better. So what's the problem?
User avatar #164 to #158 - asschwitz
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I guess you're right. The way I think of it is like this: While the idea looks good on paper, it doesn't work out so well in reality (With the few exceptions of course). It's meant to provide healthcare to people who don't have much money, correct? What good doctor wants to make the same amount of money as a bad doctor when he could work privately and make much more? Thus, the system gets left with bad doctors that can't make it private. Kind've defeating the purpose of having socialized healthcare. I dunno, I guess bad healthcare is better then none when you can't afford it.
User avatar #102 to #94 - Jackimole
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It's the same reason why private schools do better than public schools.
User avatar #117 to #94 - lordcuntdestroyer
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Dutch =/= Canadian. The systems are similar, but not identical
User avatar #120 to #117 - wolfypolli
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From what I hear a lot of these problems are present in Canadian healthcare as well.
User avatar #123 to #120 - lordcuntdestroyer
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Present, but not abundant. No system is perfect. Basically what happens is if you want better health care in canada, you can pay to get it, but everyone is given basic coverage for most things. Not trying to bash on the US system, just trying to clear things up
User avatar #140 to #123 - chucknorrisTHEGAME
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Are you Canadian? If so, where are you getting your healthcare? It's awful where I am.
User avatar #147 to #140 - lordcuntdestroyer
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Yes I am a Canadian, Nova Scotian to be specific. I am on a family plan, where essentially I go to a specific family doctor and from there she either diagnoses the problem and prescribes medication, or for more serious cases sends me to a professional in whatever practice is required. I go there if I have something like a breathing problem, but for something like a broken bone I just go to the hospital
User avatar #150 to #147 - chucknorrisTHEGAME
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Ah, makes sense. I've heard good things about Nova Scotian health care. Ontarian health care sucks. I have a family doctor who barely spends 3 seconds at an appointment. And waiting times for serious things are crazy.
User avatar #154 to #150 - lordcuntdestroyer
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I hear ya. I had a few doctors like that until I found one that is actually competent
User avatar #133 to #123 - monkee
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Same as the uk, private healthcare is an optional extra. Our NHS is a source of national pride because it works, although for england and wales they're getting it ripped apart because the Conservative UK government wants to be like America.
#103 to #94 - intrepidy
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You could have gone for private healthcare if you didn't like it.


Doctors make mistakes, i would blame it on the type of healthcare system and more on the people. Besides, it really depends on what doctor you see, specialised doctors will always see "their" illness.
#127 to #94 - anon id: b955b0cc
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...not all liberals think socialized healthcare is a great system.
#128 to #94 - anon id: b955b0cc
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Not all liberals think socialized healthcare is great.
User avatar #112 to #94 - rbpwn
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Not ALL healthcare providers are alike

Just because you had one bad experience with something you disagree with doesn't mean it's all terrible
User avatar #119 to #112 - wolfypolli
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In this case it wasn't really about the healthcare providers. It was about the bad quality of doctors.
User avatar #124 to #119 - rbpwn
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Healthcare Providers meant Doctors in this context, atleast for me


And yes, some doctors are sloppy because the patient themselves aren't paying the money, but they don't represent doctors as a whole

I've only met one terrible doctor, and I got another doctor to fix their mistakes in med prescription the next day
User avatar #95 - midget gang bang
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Walter White didn't start cooking meth to pay for his health care. He wanted to pay off his mortgage, cover his kids educations, living costs etc. The total came to $737,000 which I'm sure the Canadian government wouldn't give for you just because you were diagnosed with cancer...
#99 to #95 - herecomesjohnny
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yeah, you're right, this post is a real JOKE.
#221 to #95 - anon id: 133d5a57
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>the joke







>you
User avatar #111 to #95 - rbpwn
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If it will help you continue working and feeding your family, they will pay for it
User avatar #98 to #95 - MudkipTomislav
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Well I'm not Canadian so I'm not the one to write essays but I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have such a problem with mortgage, living costs or his son's education in Canada. At least not such a large one.
User avatar #135 - chucknorrisTHEGAME
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That's not even close to true. Because our health care is "free" (paid for in taxes so people won't notice), people go to the doctor for anything, meaning waiting room times are usually 6 hours. It also means that because doctors don't have competition and get paid regardless, they can be as crappy as they want (I've had many instances of mistreatment or simple refusal of treatment because the doctor "had just met me, how is he supposed to diagnose me?"). Plus, our waiting times are certainly not a week. Especially for something like cancer treatment, waiting times are insane.
My aunt had cancer and had to go to the doctor 4 times before they finally realized it, and by that time it was terminal.
Also, it doesn't cover psychologists, physiotherapy, dentistry, chiropractic, and a lot of other useful things, so we're paying so much in taxes and only getting some of what we really should be getting.
Honestly, I think Canada would be better off with private health care.
User avatar #190 to #135 - trevcars
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I love how you say it's free sarcastically, as if it would make some sense for it to actually be 100 percent free. Obviously we pay more taxes, but doesn't it make sense to pay your doctor while you're healthy so you don't have to deal with a big bill when you're sick? and to accuse doctors in Canada of being crappy on purpose is a pretty stupid thing to suggest.
User avatar #194 to #190 - chucknorrisTHEGAME
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I'm not trying to say doctors actually go into work thinking "I'm going to suck as a doctor today". But since they get paid no matter what, they can be very lazy in their job, which I've seen happen many times.
User avatar #197 to #194 - trevcars
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Well I believe you should change doctors because that's not something most doctors do. I think Canada has a great healthcare system. Like someone already said, it's not about first come first serve, or how much someone makes, it's about getting you healthy again no matter how much money is in your bank account. And I'm not saying the US has a bad system, because honestly I don't know much about it.
User avatar #199 to #197 - chucknorrisTHEGAME
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I've tried, but I find doctors are like this more often than not, not just with me. I've noticed that it differs province to province though. I'm not trying to say the USA has a perfect system either, I just think there needs to be some sort of compromise system, because I'm not seeing either the Canadian or USA system working well enough.
User avatar #201 to #199 - trevcars
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I understand.
User avatar #204 to #201 - chucknorrisTHEGAME
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I appreciate your understanding and ability to have a civil discussion despite differing opinions.
User avatar #148 to #135 - chezburgadominator
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Wow, this was a pretty logical statement. You're saying that just because Canada has free health care it doesn't automatically mean it's better than other health care, right? Atleast you aren't ultimately deeming Canada>Every Other health care
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User avatar #156 to #135 - Envy
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My mom had breast cancer and got in to see the doctor instantly. Our healthcare system is top notch. Canada's rate of mistreatment is no higher than the USAs. I've lived in both Canada and the USA and I can tell you both countries have great healthcare (Which is why our life expectancy is so high) but the only one that gave my family a $40,000 bill was the US.

So I hope you think about both sides before claiming Canada should have privatized healthcare, especially when many people in the US can't even afford the insurance to have it.
User avatar #161 to #156 - chucknorrisTHEGAME
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No, they both gave you the bill. One you paid up front and one you paid in taxes.
User avatar #162 to #161 - Envy
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I'd rather pay a marginal amount in taxes than a $40,000 bill on TOP of other federal taxes.
#54 - Nameloc
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Recently Canada has been on the ball with medicines.
****, they practically found a cure for HIV and Cancer in the past few years.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dichloroacetic_acid
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAV001
User avatar #57 to #54 - unhappyspanners
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Where does it say Canadian scientists found DCA?
User avatar #73 to #57 - Nameloc
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The University of Alberta is testing DCA for potential uses in curing cancer...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Alberta

"Reports in the lay press after the 2007 University of Alberta announcement claim that dichloroacetate "has actually been used safely in humans for decades",[35] DCA is generally well tolerated, even in children.[36] Short-term, infused, bolus doses of DCA at 50 mg/kg/day have been well tolerated.[37]"
#56 to #54 - ARRRGGGG
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"Although preliminary studies have shown DCA can slow the growth of certain tumors in animal studies and in vitro studies, there is no evidence to support the use of DCA as a cancer treatment in humans"

That's not a cure.

SAV001 shows promise, but is still undergoing clinical trial. AKA, they don't even know if it works yet.

It's a really big stretch to say Canada found cures for cancer and AIDS.
User avatar #72 to #56 - Nameloc
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That's some ******** people put up on there....

Now if you scroll down to look and see:
"These results received extensive media attention, beginning with an article in New Scientist titled "Cheap, ‘safe’ drug kills most cancers".[12] Subsequently, the American Cancer Society and other medical organizations have received a large volume of public interest and questions regarding DCA.[14] Clinical trials in humans with cancer have not been conducted in the USA and are not yet final in Canada, emphasizing the need for caution in interpreting the preliminary results.[14][15]"

It's still a work in progress, although it's a lot further in development then SAV001.
User avatar #27 - BwainPhreeze
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I haven't started watching this yet, but i'm considering it...
Can someone tell me whats good about it? (What makes it so good?)
#34 to #27 - anon id: a73fc432
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I can't tell you without spoiling it. The lead actor (Bryan Cranston) has said in interviews that if you're curious about the show, watch the first episode. You should known by the end of that if you love it or don't care about it. IMO, ****** so ******* good.
#66 to #27 - anon id: 1d7e003e
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Honestly. It is an amazing show. One of the best ever made, easily.

I have told maybe 25 people to watch it. And every single one has thanked me for doing so and has said it is amazing.

One of them even bought me a pint when I bumped into them in the pub because i Quote "You introduced me to Breaking Bad, i'm on season 3 right now but its so good, let me buy you a drink"

Just watch it
#35 to #27 - imthepunkkid
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Let me show you
Let me show you
#36 to #35 - imthepunkkid
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And another scene from the show
And another scene from the show
#37 to #36 - imthepunkkid
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Just a few more
Just a few more
#38 to #37 - imthepunkkid
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One more after this one and i'll quit
One more after this one and i'll quit
#39 to #38 - imthepunkkid
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