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#49 - fuckyosixtyminutes (12/17/2012) [-]
Quick! Express your discontent by drawing attention to them! That will show them!
User avatar #60 to #49 - defeats (12/17/2012) [-]
I order to remove something like them, first you must make everyone aware of them.
#66 to #60 - fuckyosixtyminutes (12/17/2012) [-]
All you're doing is spreading their message for them, and don't let your self-righteous outrage delude you into thinking any different.
User avatar #69 to #66 - defeats (12/17/2012) [-]
I'm not American, so I have no self righteous outrage towards them.
But I, and many other British people would rather know that these scum exist than not.
#73 to #69 - fuckyosixtyminutes (12/17/2012) [-]
Really not seeing what nationality has to do with it, nor am I going to assume you speak for an entire country, but your answer shows that it's all about entertainment and sensationalism, an interesting story. It's got absolutely nothing to do with "removing them".
User avatar #78 to #73 - defeats (12/17/2012) [-]
Actually, raising awareness for anything is the first step in removing it.
The Westboro Baptist Church is an American organisation, I'm not American, so I feel no personal disdain toward them. So yes, nationality is relevant.

The people of the UK had no personal feelings about 9/11, but we have still helped with the ***** in the Middle East every step of the way.

Obviously I don't speak for my entire country, but in case you didn't know, the Internet is worldwide, it is something that unites the entire World.

Telling the world about the horrible things this group does does not glorify them, nor does it spread the word. It does however show the world how liken to terrorists these people are.
#82 to #78 - fuckyosixtyminutes (12/17/2012) [-]
That might make some measure of sense if they were trying to hide their activities, but they WANT the word spread. They want the media attention, the TV interviews, they want people hearing their message. If you can't see that then you're just being led along like a farm animal.
User avatar #85 to #82 - defeats (12/17/2012) [-]
Whether they want it or not is beside the point. They think that any attention they get will help them, negative attention will not help them. They are deluding themselves by thinking that with negative attention more people will support them.

And you are deluding yourself by being afraid of them.
#115 to #85 - fuckyosixtyminutes (12/17/2012) [-]
Don't be an idiot. "You are deluding yourself by being afraid of them" doesn't even actually mean anything, but regardless, nobody here is afraid of anybody. I've just seen how they've increased their numbers and activity, and become more and more successful with each passing year of getting people to talk about them and pay attention to them.

But you just go on "raising awareness" of them and expecting *something* to "be done about them". It's more about the self-righteous indignation than actually achieving results for people like you anyway.
User avatar #151 to #115 - defeats (12/17/2012) [-]
Actually you are wrong, and thumbing me down doesn't make you any less wrong.

The only reason they are surviving and growing is because of their intimidation tactics.
Picketing funerals? No one is going to start a row with them at a funeral.

Have you not wondered why there are so many of them at funerals, and homosexual rallies yet there are so few of them picketing airports on the return of military personnel?
A crying widow won't cross the street to shout back at you.

Most people don't want to stand up to them, and I'm sorry but, ignoring a bully does not make them go away.
#154 to #151 - fuckyosixtyminutes (12/17/2012) [-]
P.S. Until you can describe what you don't like about a boy partaking in a girl's activity (like girls' field hockey) without calling him a " ****** ", you have zero credibility about the morals of an organization like this. In fact that just makes it more obvious that you're jumping on a bandwagon and don't have any sincere feelings about what they do. It's all just another news story to gossip about and act self-righteous.
#152 to #151 - fuckyosixtyminutes (12/17/2012) [-]
Oh please, if you think that gossiping about them and plastering photos of their protests all over the internet is "standing up to them" then you truly are a moron.
User avatar #153 to #152 - defeats (12/17/2012) [-]
I didn't say gossip or pictures would do anything, you came to that conclusion all on your own, out of your own closed minded stupidity.
But you keep on ignoring these people, while they make the lives of others a misery.

You don't have to care what they do, they aren't affecting you, but if it was your brother, father, best friend whose funeral that they picketed, you'd be pleading with other people for support against them.
#155 to #153 - fuckyosixtyminutes (12/17/2012) [-]
You are completely missing the point. It's not about not caring or them not affecting me, it's about all the pleading and "support" doing nothing but fuel their fire.
User avatar #157 to #155 - defeats (12/17/2012) [-]
petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/legally-recognize-westboro-baptist-church-hate-group/DYf3pH2d

This is one of the things you get with raising awareness.

And with regards to your comment 154:
"you're jumping on a bandwagon and don't have any sincere feelings about what they do. It's all just another news story to gossip about and act self-righteous."

Maybe I don't like what they're doing because I too am military personnel?
Maybe them labelling me as a terrorist and not the ones in the Middle East who kill not only their own innocent people, but ours too?
Maybe I don't think anyone has the right to protest at a ******* funeral, or say that it was Gods will that 20 children were butchered in their own school.

Get your head out of your arse.
You say I'm jumping on a bandwagon, yet by joining the haters, that is exactly what you're doing. You and I both know that you're fishing for back up here from other people, it's evident by your frequent use of insults.
#158 to #157 - fuckyosixtyminutes (12/17/2012) [-]
I'm using insults because you're a ******* moron being used as their echo chamber. I don't need backup to convince me of that. Also regarding your link, I didn't realize you were such a complete tool that you think it's the government's place to regulate speech and ideas. Obviously you don't have the foresight, nor the understanding of basic cause and effect, to have anything to say of interest for me.
User avatar #160 to #158 - defeats (12/17/2012) [-]
It's the governments place to protect it's people.
Stop being so closed minded and hateful, you actually sound like someone from the WBC.

You're small, petty and pathetic.
#163 to #160 - fuckyosixtyminutes (12/17/2012) [-]
And keep thumbing down every comment after you whine about it above, it's not like you need to worry about looking like a hypocritical wuss since that ship sailed long ago.
User avatar #165 to #163 - defeats (12/17/2012) [-]
I haven't thumbed down any comments, I do however have people messaging me regarding you and this conversation. So you have them to thank, not me.
#162 to #160 - fuckyosixtyminutes (12/17/2012) [-]
It's not the government's place to protect people from being offended or getting their feelings hurt, and if you think that someone advocating for free speech and not feeding the trolls sounds anything like someone who goes around saying "Thank God for IEDs" and "God Hates Fags", then you have neither the brains nor the perspective to be taken seriously about matters of speech.

The only thing pathetic about this conversation is how badly you miss the obvious truth that they feed off of your attention, and how spineless you are by relying on government to protect you from meanies and bullies. I can't imagine how a military personnel could be such a weakling.
User avatar #164 to #162 - defeats (12/17/2012) [-]
As a soldier I'm a government employee, as a soldier it's part of my job to protect the civilians of my country, why? Because it is the governments job.
This is nothing to do with hurt feelings, this is to do with respect, what's right and what's wrong.
It just so happens that the US Government are the only ones who can shut them down, what do you expect the people to do?

And again, it doesn't effect you, so you think you have the high ground here, all I'm seeing is some 14 year old who thinks he understand the adult world.
Maybe you get bullied at school and therefore think that someone protesting at the funeral of one of your family wouldn't upset you, trust me, it would ruin your year.
These people are preying on people they consider easy targets, funerals, homosexuals, dead soldiers.

Resorting to insults again, calling me stupid doesn't make you smart, and it doesn't make you right. Have some ******* sense and grow up.
#166 to #164 - fuckyosixtyminutes (12/17/2012) [-]
What do I expect people to do??? I'm not expecting anyone to do anything except realize that the price of having free speech is having to man up and ignore people who say things you don't like. The funeral thing has already been taken care of with laws, so don't bother bringing that up as a relevant item as all it shows is that you're ignorant of what laws have already been passed because of this group. It really does floor me that you tell me to "grow up" and that I don't understand the adult world when you are so incapable of relying on yourself that you think it's the place of government to force its citizens to "respect" one another and determine what's right and wrong.

There is nothing so pitiful and childish as someone who looks to Mommy Government for all their solutions. I actually am glad that you're not an American now, because I would be ashamed to hear an American soldier be so pathetically dependent on the government to enforce "respect" and "protect" people from hurt feelings.
User avatar #167 to #166 - defeats (12/17/2012) [-]
I hope you realise that if this were to happen in the UK we would have permission to remove them with force. This is the reason that I say the Government has to step in. What they are doing is not upsetting people, it goes beyond that.

"The funeral thing has already been taken care of with laws" - This content and discussion is about the WBC's latest plan to picket the funerals of the dead children.
It's stupid that you expect me to know about new US laws when you probably can't name all of the countries that make up the UK, off the top of your head.

And again with personal insults towards me. Continue to be a keyboard warrior, I'm certain that face to face you wouldn't be to vocal about this.
And these people don't offend me, it's not me who needs protection from hate groups.
As I said earlier, this goes beyond hurt feelings, hate groups have stages that they work in eventually they all lead to violence. Stopping them now is called prevention, you'd maybe know this if your knowledge of the world wasn't just from games or school.
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