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User avatar #1 - threeeighteen (12/15/2012) [-]
**** storm in 3... 2... 1...
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#317 to #1 - justjumi (12/15/2012) [-]
I think I'm going to hell for thinking about pressing that "children" button for more comments.
User avatar #261 - buzzin like a bee (12/15/2012) [-]

Don't you think you think a lot more rape would happen if it was legal? Yes it still happens, but it happens less.
User avatar #42 - teefa (12/15/2012) [-]
Australia has strict gun laws, that's why you hardly ever hear of shootings here. It's nearly always in America i've realized.
User avatar #378 to #42 - gangsterishness (12/15/2012) [-]
Same with New Zealand and we haven't had a shooting here for years
#410 to #42 - chazzxz (12/15/2012) [-]
Who the hell is smuggling illegal guns into Australia?
User avatar #462 to #42 - ForNarniaaa (12/16/2012) [-]
Think about this though, something had to possess him to shoot those kids. Any normal person would walk in, see all those drawings that kids drew, and think what the **** am I doing?! They're kids! Obviously, this Lanza guys wasn't your average joe. Most people have a conscience, or at least thats what we claim it as. This man didn't have that little voice in his head telling him this is wrong, he felt like what he was doing was right, in his sense. There is a much deeper way of thinking about this because something must have provoked him to do such a terrible thing. To my understanding, this is a psychological thing. If you want to buy a gun, you should have to take some kind of difficult psychological test to prove that you are sane. I'm sorry for the rant guys, but the shooter is dead, so there are no real possible answers as to why he did it. This may sound creepy but I wish I could speak to Adam Lanza and pick at his brain. I love this kinda stuff....not the dead children though. RIP.
#85 to #42 - anon (12/15/2012) [-]
Yeah but Australia's only got a population of 22,500,000 while America has a population of 311,500,000. There would be more shootings with a population the size of Americas
User avatar #259 to #42 - snookiskooka (12/15/2012) [-]
Pretty much everyone in Switzerland has a gun and they have some of the lowest gun crime rates in the world.
#120 to #42 - fragman ONLINE (12/15/2012) [-]
Funny how in America where the most dangerous thing around is probably the outrage if McDonalds closes down early everyone somehow needs guns.
In Australia it works without them, even though every living creature can kill you within three seconds and the primarily spoken language is screaming...
User avatar #99 to #42 - herpesboy (12/15/2012) [-]
you guys could use guns. I mean jeez if i were in australia i'd carry a gun every thing there wants to kill you
#49 to #42 - killyojoy (12/15/2012) [-]
You are also on a island that does not have much guns in circulation already.. there are far too many guns in america to stop us with gun laws.
User avatar #488 to #49 - dafunkad (12/16/2012) [-]
france has strict gun laws, that's why you hardly ever hear of shootings here. It's nearly always in America i've realized.

Ok we are also afraid to use them, it does a lot of noise, and you know...

it's kinda terrifying
User avatar #642 to #488 - failtolawl (12/16/2012) [-]
only in America, and you know.. Germany... Norway.. Israel... Egypt but we'll ignore those bits, we are trying to prove a point! aren't we?
User avatar #643 to #642 - teefa (12/16/2012) [-]
I said almost always. Not always.
#300 to #42 - swimmerman (12/15/2012) [-]
I know, I'm an Australian and people who think that making guns illegal wouldn't stop the majority of shootings are retarded.
User avatar #222 - Jackimole (12/15/2012) [-]
You want to ban murder? Please tell me again about how criminals follow laws.
User avatar #33 - Nightinear **User deleted account** (12/15/2012) [-]
Is every american on funnyjunk gun-crazy?
I live in Denmark where guns are illegal
I don't really remember the last time we had a school shooting
User avatar #36 to #33 - tittysugar (12/15/2012) [-]
Well unfortune for that school the guy had the guns illegally... figure that huh? Someone getting guns illegally, I never would've guessed.
#60 to #36 - mackigol (12/15/2012) [-]
The guns were owned legally by his Mother and kept in the house he lived in.

Try again.
#185 to #33 - anderp (12/15/2012) [-]
We actually have only had one school shooting in the entire history of the Danish rule. It was in 1994 in Aarhus where a student shot two students and injuried two others before killing himself.
User avatar #41 - UberAndrew (12/15/2012) [-]
But it will be a lot harder to get them.
It won't stop people from killing other people, it'll just slow it down.

But the solution to stopping things like school shootings isn't just one thing, it's a lot.
Just gun control, just better treatment for mentally ill people, or just better security isn't going to make that much of a difference, it's all the above.
#106 to #41 - anon (12/15/2012) [-]
when everyone (sane) has a gun and knows how to use a gun, then the insane wont take so many by surprise. sure, one or two might still be killed, but that woman in the dark alley wont get mugged or worse, and that teacher could protect his or her students.

there was that shooting in Colorado, just a week ago in a school. guy gets a gun illegally, kills 26 people, and 18 children. imagine if those adults had a handgun on them, guy probably wouldn't have attacked in the first place.
#359 to #106 - anon (12/15/2012) [-]
Do you really think teachers should carry guns to school? And do you think that a guy who killed himself, would be afraid of getting shot?
#152 to #106 - anon (12/15/2012) [-]
The **** you sayin? so your idea of safety is for everyone to have an army behind him. answering guns with guns just worsens the situation. I really find it weird that you have this way of thinking. in europe countries with much more population per km than the US have much less cases. The thing wrong with you is your mentality, but it wont change unless there is major control over them. and look at brazil rio de janeiro problem, so guns are ilegal in brazil, even paintball is prohibited, do you think the solution to their problems would be to give everyone guns? I sense massacres. Just think before saying such outrageous gun propaganda. I find you suffer from post 9/11 fear.
User avatar #411 - ivoryhammer (12/15/2012) [-]
Well, because it's not criminals that go on these massacres usually, it's normal people that just snap or have a mental disability.
User avatar #381 - futuramafan (12/15/2012) [-]
Quoting this part from a previous comment:

"There are two kinds of Homicide.

1) Planned, Cold blooded and thought out. Banning guns can do nothing here, the person will find ways to get a gun and carry it out.

2) Spur of the moment, In rage, Temporary insanity. Banning guns would really resolve this bracket. I'm sure a lot of people have had that moment, when they're so angry, they just want to kill someone. With the passage of time, they cool down, and forget about it. When a hot headed person has a gun readily available, then anything can go down. But if he needs to make an effort to get a gun, he should have clearer thought from that past moment."

So do you think this sheltered suburban autistic white kid in CT would go visit the hood ****** or the black market to aid his insanity? No.

However, if his mother has guns readily available in the house, there's no reason to hesitate.
User avatar #383 to #381 - theluppijackal (12/15/2012) [-]
Riiight, because people like the Batman theater shooter, the columbine kids, the virginia tech guy were all hot blooded moments of passion.
hot blooded moments of passion are the types that result in one death, like a husband finding out his wife cheated on him. Not spree kills
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User avatar #412 to #405 - theluppijackal (12/15/2012) [-]
Tell that to the media
User avatar #395 to #381 - fosforgasxiii (12/15/2012) [-]
Finally someone who gets it.
User avatar #309 - suponion (12/15/2012) [-]
So by your logic, everything should be legal, since criminals don't follow the law anyway
#310 to #309 - anon (12/15/2012) [-]
Not everyone is a criminal
User avatar #228 - bananarchy (12/15/2012) [-]
That is so ******* retarded

>You want to ban murder?
>Please, tell me more about how murderers follow laws
#415 - darkjustifier (12/15/2012) [-]
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User avatar #269 - ThatsSoFunnyHeHe (12/15/2012) [-]
I honestly think OP makes a very strong point.
1) There are already a lot of guns in America because of the way the laws have been
2) Guns will get imported into America (Look at Cocaine)

Plus these events are rare. There's at least one murder every day in New York. About 2 weeks ago, it was on the news that there were no murders in NY for one day. That was such a big event to them. Not to mention the places in poverty. Compton California averages an average of 2 murders a day. When you look at these statistics, a shooting like this isn't that big of an event. In the last 6 years there have been over 100,000 murders in America. Another 28 apparently means so much more to America than ALL the rest of them. And these killings in poverty aren't done with assault weapons. They're done with knives or pistols.

A ban on assault weapons wouldn't do ******* anything, and cause of the second amendment we can't make guns illegal in general.

So, in short, we're completely and entirely ****** no matter what we do. We're just choosing between anal rape with lube or vagina rape with no lube.
#440 - shreddddzd (12/16/2012) [-]
Oh my god the logic of this post actually hurts me.

The definition of a criminal is someone who breaks the criminal law so the statement is entirely redundant, with then logic of this post you may as well not have any laws at all because criminals wont follow them anyway right?

Wrong. Police can only start to enforce something if its written in law, so if gun violence is a problem the logical first step would be to outlaw guns. I'm glad i live in a country where the drunk, violent bogan psychopath down the road doesn't have access to such a deadly weapon, and im quite ok with the fact that i myself can't get a gun because i would rather not be put in a position where i ever felt the need to use one anyway.

People that think its a good idea to fight fire with fire and arm everyone to try to "stop" further gun violence are just ignorant.
User avatar #471 to #440 - cmcghie (12/16/2012) [-]
Connecticut has some of the toughest gun laws in the country, with strict bans on areas where guns can be used. If you are a resident of Connecticut, you can't buy handguns or extended mags legally in any other state.

Yet, even with that in effect, the killer used a handgun... with extended mags....

I'm glad I live in a country where if some asshole with a gun breaks into my house, I can also have a gun and level the playing field.
User avatar #509 to #471 - shreddddzd (12/16/2012) [-]
The problem is though that it shouldn't be that easy for anyone to just pick up a gun and do that kind of thing in the first place. i don't know much about the laws in your country but my bet is that what sounds like actually a pretty half-assed ban on guns in certain areas isn't going to do much when they are so widely available and easily accessible nearby. just look at statistics from western countries where guns are outlawed entirely and you will see a great reduction in the amount of murders, its only logical.

And when people argue that if guns weren't available mass murderers would find other ways to go about there killing, they obviously don't understand human nature. we human beings are lazy people, and any level of deterrence is likely going to be enough for alot of people especially when they would have to go well out of their way to find one. A gun gives a murderer a sense of protection which they just wouldn't have if they tried to carry out a killing another way, and thats why in countries where guns arent easily available this sort of thing doesnt seem to happen nearly as much.
User avatar #525 to #509 - cmcghie (12/16/2012) [-]
The problem with banning guns in America currently has to do with the kind of crime that goes on in America. Pardon me for assuming, but I'm going to guess you live in a European country that is probably largely unaffected by gun crime for several reasons:

1. Guns were not a constitutional right
2. Your country isn't the world's top arms manufacturer
3. The population of your country is much smaller and more homogeneous than America's
4. Access to mental healthcare is easier

Most gun deaths in America are gang related, with that number at over 80% The rest breaks down into accidents, murder, malfunctions, ect. With 9/10 people owning a gun here, and with a population of over 310 million, the gun/death ratio isn't that alarming considering the numbers we're dealing with. These mass shootings are still pretty rare, although that still doesn't make it less horrific.

Also, bombings and other various methods for mass slaughter take place almost every week. Back in Russia in 2004, over 300 student hostages were killed in an explosion. Over 168 died in the Oklahoma bombing in the 90's. I wouldn't say laziness is a proven deterrent, but I see the point you are trying to make.

Anyways, it's impossible to strip America of all it's guns now. Even if we did, only law abiding citizens would give them up. All a nutjob would have to do is buy one illegally. Most people here would prefer if schools had better mental healthcare for students to catch the psychos early, and a couple of armed cops to stop them if they go on a rampage.
User avatar #553 to #525 - shreddddzd (12/16/2012) [-]
Im Australian actually. I do understand that an outright ban would be difficult to enforce but guns were once widely available in this country too, and a ban was actually very successful at fixing the problem. See what the guy above replied, we actually had a very bad incident which actually brought about a complete change in gun laws where there was a mass shooting and lots of people died, but after new restrictions were brought in it was also the last incident of its type.
#565 to #553 - ARRRGGGG (12/16/2012) [-]
That was in 1996, only a decade and a half ago. You can't say for certain that was the last incident ever or that gun control works.
User avatar #592 to #565 - shreddddzd (12/16/2012) [-]
Its not just that incident that im really talking about though. Even though i used it as an example, overall homocide rates have dropped since 1996 and firearm homocides have dropped significantly, so you can see why the restrictions are generally thought of as quite successful.
#519 to #509 - alucardarian (12/16/2012) [-]
That sounds fine and dandy in theory, but it's going to cause a lot more problems than it would seemingly solve
User avatar #526 to #519 - shreddddzd (12/16/2012) [-]
In the short term, it probably would, as does any sort of significant change. In the long term however it would seem the only solution unless your country wants to keep on going with this sort of thing happening every couple of months or so.
#550 to #526 - alucardarian (12/16/2012) [-]
There are around 300 million guns in the USA. Even if we ban the sales of guns there would still be 9 guns to every 10 Americans. Assuming that we do ban guns, that would push sales of guns into the black market, where the government has no control over at all and probably anyone would be able to get a gun. Back in the 1920's we tried to ban the sales and creation of alcoholic substances in an act called prohibition. Not only did that fail, it lead to the creation of the biggest crime syndicate lead by none other than Al Capone. His biggest operation was the illegal bootlegging and smuggling of alcohol.

And besides I think a 15 trillion dollar debt is a bigger issue anyway.
#503 to #471 - frylord (12/16/2012) [-]
This guys speaks truth
#523 to #440 - anaphase (12/16/2012) [-]
I completely agree with you. Gun control is probably one of the only things our government has done right.

I'm a hunter and a lover of guns, but thank god you need to go through rigorous testing to obtain one here. Half the people I know are ******* crazy enough for me to be worried if they ever got their hands on one.

Think about it...the Port Arthur Massacre was the first major shooting of innocent people we've had. Thanks to the tightening of gun control laws, it's also been the last. Bryant (who had significant intellectual disabilities) would never manage to obtain a gun now.

And there is no reason whatsoever for a civilian to have an automatic weapon. Past a passion for firearms and the general awesomeness, the only purpose of these things is to kill people.
User avatar #574 to #523 - shreddddzd (12/16/2012) [-]
I was wondering how you knew i was Australian haha, then i figured out it must have been my use of the word "bogan"
User avatar #425 - lmOldGreg (12/16/2012) [-]
Guns are illegal in the uk and we don't have high gun crime as a results. Trying to think of the last time a maniac shot up a school, movie theatre here.
User avatar #436 to #425 - floofy (12/16/2012) [-]
so how about those stabbings and bat attacks eh?
User avatar #443 to #436 - kaiizel (12/16/2012) [-]
Carrying a potentially harmful object on your person is also illegal in the UK. If you're caught with a Stanly knife you're in deep **** . Not sure what you mean by "bat attacks" though. We don't have killer bats.
User avatar #449 to #443 - floofy (12/16/2012) [-]
and we dont have killer guns. the fact that its illegal doesnt mean it doesnt happen either i hear about stabbings and people getting beat up with clubs all the time from people in the UK
User avatar #458 to #449 - kaiizel (12/16/2012) [-]
"We don't have killer guns." What are you, retarded? If America had gun laws it wouldn't be so easy to purchase a gun, thus having less **** like this happen.
#464 to #458 - floofy (12/16/2012) [-]
and if pot were illegal i wouldnt be able to go down the street and buy it
and if pot were illegal i wouldnt be able to go down the street and buy it
User avatar #469 to #464 - kaiizel (12/16/2012) [-]
Weed isn't the same as a gun, retard.
User avatar #456 to #449 - lmOldGreg (12/16/2012) [-]
Nope. I'd rather get stabbed/battered than shot and killed. As Piers Morgan said, the 2nd amendment was made with muskets in mind, not semi automatic pistols. And as for you hearing about people getting stabbed over hear, give me one example. Just one, that's all I ask.
User avatar #461 to #456 - floofy (12/16/2012) [-]
you would think that the founding fathers being the smart men they were knew that technology would advance. weird.
User avatar #480 to #461 - lmOldGreg (12/16/2012) [-]
So you admit that it's outdated?
User avatar #485 to #480 - floofy (12/16/2012) [-]
well of course somewhat.

User avatar #460 to #456 - kaiizel (12/16/2012) [-]
Do not quote Piers Morgan.
User avatar #484 to #460 - lmOldGreg (12/16/2012) [-]
I really do dislike the man, he's right on this though.
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User avatar #314 to #287 - durkadurka ONLINE (12/15/2012) [-]
No. It's like ripping off everyone's penises to prevent rape.
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#538 to #296 - rshctwo (12/16/2012) [-]
and penises are there for sex, its just a matter of knowing when to use it
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#639 to #545 - rshctwo (12/16/2012) [-]
guns could also be used for hunting or for sport, I never said for shooting anyone
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#641 to #640 - rshctwo (12/16/2012) [-]
are you saying store them at the hunting grounds? I don't hunt and I think that is a good idea but not very practical, I doubt any of the hunters would leave their guns in such a location because the generally do maintenance to them the day before and I doubt they would trust it.
#570 - lordbyronxiv (12/16/2012) [-]
I don't know who's worse.   
The people who use national tragedies like this to argue for their political beliefs without much regard for the families of the fallen.   
Or me for wondering what the insensitive but incredibly funny shock posts that are undoubtedly coming are gonna be like.
I don't know who's worse.

The people who use national tragedies like this to argue for their political beliefs without much regard for the families of the fallen.

Or me for wondering what the insensitive but incredibly funny shock posts that are undoubtedly coming are gonna be like.
User avatar #392 - fosforgasxiii (12/15/2012) [-]
You want to ban murder?

Please, me more about how criminals follow laws.

You want to ban theft?

Please, tell me more how about criminals follow laws.


The fact that we will never be able to abolish crime and in this example illegal guns doesn't mean we shouldn't try everything we could to lower the problem as much as possible.
I know you can't ban guns in contry like the US where there are already a ******* of guns, I don't think guns are banned in any nation. But a stricter gunlaw should help a lot. And Americans need to abolish their gun-loving culture.
Where I live there are barely people who own guns, and I barely hear anything about shootings here, and when there is a shooting over here it is mostly just gangs vs gangs.
#530 - anon (12/16/2012) [-]
Actually, Over 1/2 of criminals using guns obtained their firearms legally.
Statistics, ************ .
User avatar #552 to #530 - littlenish (12/16/2012) [-]
If they're criminals, they will those fire arms for illegal things.

Logic, ************ .
#562 to #552 - kez (12/16/2012) [-]
I have never heard of a massacre like that happening in the UK and we dont have guns.

I have heard of about 3 in the last 5 years in the US and they do have guns.

They are a problematic factor. But thats not to say banning guns is going to stop that as its not the only main factor.

The 2nd ammendment is one of the stupidest things ever conceived though
User avatar #572 to #562 - littlenish (12/16/2012) [-]
1. You guys have access to explosives. There have been a few bombings in the UK that I've heard of.

2. Yes, there are alot of idiots in the US that decide to shoot up ****

3. Noone said banning guns will stop murders

4. The constitution was written almost 200 years ago, when the US and Britain were warring over the freedom of the colonies.
#586 to #572 - kez (12/16/2012) [-]
Bombings by terrorists. We do not have access to explosives either. Where did that come from? Nothing major anyways.

You cannot ban explosives anyway. They are made from chemical reactions. It makes no sense. How can you ban someone doing science. And you cannot ban elements because they are part of everything and in the air.

You want to ban air?
User avatar #602 to #586 - littlenish (12/16/2012) [-]
Ileagally obtain explosives. I also did not know that STABLE gases caused chemical reactions. And, I did not know that we are breathing in tons of transition metals.
#604 to #602 - kez (12/16/2012) [-]
Oxygen retard
User avatar #606 to #604 - littlenish (12/16/2012) [-]
You also forgot that the air is not only made of oxygen, but consists mostly of nitrogen. And again, I never said anything about banning anything, stop saying things that I never said.
User avatar #225 - suponion (12/15/2012) [-]
holy ******* **** I hate that argument, are you ******* retarded?
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