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User avatar #38 - yojo (12/03/2012) [-]
I want someone to explain the big differences between macs and PCs in a clearer way. I am technologically disabled and I want to know so I can form my own opinion.
If anyone can really explain to me what makes the PCs so much better (an I'm not arguing against that, I'm just saying I know nothing) then I am sure you shall receive many thumbs.
#146 to #38 - underaserpentsun (12/03/2012) [-]
basically, when you're buying a mac, you're buying a PC with an artsy aluminum case and a **** operating system. and you're overpaying 30-50%.

that's the tl;dr version really.
User avatar #71 to #38 - alltimetens (12/03/2012) [-]
PCs are like motorcycles. If you take good care of them, get them checked occasionally, and pay for insurance (anti virus programs like Norton), then you'll be going 75 miles on that motorcycle and you will not fall over.

Macs are tricycles. They come with built in training wheels to prevent you from falling over. However, you won't be able to go as fast.

Overall, PCs are for people who know how to take care of their machines. Macs are for those "artsy" people who are new to computers.
#143 to #71 - howaboutnsfw (12/03/2012) [-]
Don't forget the fact that the tricycle costs twice as much as the motorcycle and you don't have to pay for gas for the motorcycle
User avatar #89 to #71 - pokemonstheshiz (12/03/2012) [-]
Buy PC, download MSE and Malwarebytes
it's not very complicated
#79 to #71 - Rascal (12/03/2012) [-]
For people who know how to take care of there **** ? You're being to nice tell those macfags to get a pc and download avast. There you now have a 10 times better mac. How ******* hard is it to not go to wwm.pornconnectionlegit123.cam
User avatar #52 to #38 - alyosha (12/03/2012) [-]
Apple makes computers which are art. They look nice, usually run smoothly, and have a relatively intelligent interface. PCs are superior in every practical aspect. Apple releases programs like Garage Band and other media apps which make artsy people wet themselves with glee, but you can find Windows-run competitors which are ever-so-slightly inferor, equal to, or even superior to Apple's attempts. Usually for cheaper, too.

Plus, the boxes themselves are better. There's a huge computer superstore about an hour from me, and every time I go there I stop by the Windows and the Apple departments and compare, to get a cheap laugh. I find a $600-800 hp (notoriously bad-quality) desktop, take a picture of its stats card where they say how much RAM, what video card, etc, and then compare that to Apple's. To date, I have never found a machine by Apple which is cheaper than $1,000, nor better than what hp will sell you for two thirds that price. Last time I went, the $799.99 hp I looked at was actually BETTER than a Mac Pro priced at $3799.99. The gap was small, but it was there. The only thing to the Mac's credit was it had 2GB more RAM.

Plus, if ANYTHING goes wrong with your Apple, you have to buy a whole new computer. PC, you can just rip the thing open, yank out the bit that's gone bad, and shove a new one in.

Bottom line: Macs are pretty to look at, and they make you look "hip" when you park your chrome-Apple-laden laptop on a starbucks table. But when it's time to actually do some computering work, they're charging top-end Alienware prices for machines which are worse than hewlett-packards. And that's incredibly sad.
#59 to #52 - disturbedmaster (12/03/2012) [-]
i have never had problem with hp how are they notoriously bad quality their a million times better than dell emachine acer and asus any samsung device
User avatar #65 to #59 - alyosha (12/03/2012) [-]
I don't want to start a fight here, but I can speak from experience. I owned no less than four different hp machines from 2003-2007, at which point I was sick of them dying so rapidly and bought a Dell XPS. That PC still works fine, although I replaced it in late 2009 with a custom-built gaming machine. The only problems I have had with the Dell were my own fault, and I fixed them pretty easily. It runs just as good now, four years later, as it did new. My hp's all ran like mid-90s Gateways after a couple months.

That's why I use hp for my little MicroCenter game, anyway. Maybe you've had different experiences with them, and that's fine. But all my hp's were **** , and a lot of my other friends have had similar problems. Plus, they're cheaper than Dells on average so they make good sport. An hp beating an Apple is like a Prius beating a Lamborghini. You know that car isn't worth the price they're asking if that's the case.
#69 to #65 - disturbedmaster (12/03/2012) [-]
just curious as to what had happened is all
#67 to #65 - disturbedmaster (12/03/2012) [-]
noo i wasnt starting a fight i was just asking what makes em bad as i never had it happen to me
User avatar #70 to #67 - alyosha (12/03/2012) [-]
I didn't think you were, but some people are really protective of their pet brand and whenever someone speaks bad about it they go ape. I've learned to be a little defensive to compensate. Maybe hp isn't as bad as I've been led to believe, but I did in fact buy four separate boxes in a four or five year span (thinking back, I think my first hp might have been bought in '02, but who cares). As such, I dislike the brand.

However, I hear they're one of the best companies to buy laptops from, whereas Dell sucks. Is that what you're talking about? I've very little experience with laptops so I can't judge. I know hp printers are pretty solid, compared to other brands. But desktop machines is what I compare at MicroCenter.
#73 to #70 - disturbedmaster (12/03/2012) [-]
from what i experianced anything dell thats non xps is not worth it, i had a dell and it died within 6 monthes then a emacine and it died in less than 2 monthes i dont have a fav brand i just buy what works i had a acer but it was a total pos spec wise for any acer pc or laptop, and i had to use a asus allinone server links winserver 11 at school and it crashed constantly like upto 150 times a day even when oen of the comps was runnin it crashed multiple times, and as for laptop brands if you wanna go high end i dunno not much into laptops and to get the best out of a desktop its best to build it yourself from what i have learned i heard the hp pavilion pheinox is supposed to be very solid compared to other machines with similar specs and i been tool if you get a hp instantly plan on parts like case fans mobo grapichs card and sound card the onboard junk fails fast and the mobo isnot oc
User avatar #80 to #73 - alyosha (12/03/2012) [-]
My current machine is a custom job. Pretty high spec gaming machine. I went to MicroCenter on black friday to buy some upgrades for it, and that's when I took those pictures you see below.

Acers just feel cheap to me, so I've always stayed away. ASUS...I own one of their zenbook laptops, and it is glorious. I'd consider buying their desktops if they're built to the same quality. But I'm staying away from prebuilt desktops from now on because building them is cheaper (if you reach for the stars like I do) and infinitely more fun. If I had to...I'd definitely go buy the new Dell XPS. Saw them at MicroCenter and they seem like worthy successors to this beast of a thing that hangs out under my desk.
#84 to #80 - disturbedmaster (12/03/2012) [-]
i havent had a asus in over 6 years so they may have improved since then, i want to custom build but have no clue on how to begin, and is building them really cheaper i mobo costs like 150 a cpu 100 a psu 85 a gpu 299 to 500 a hdd 200 with high space and a sdd 300 with low space and thats not including case fans cooling moniter speakers ect , or am i just lookin in the wrong places to build
User avatar #90 to #84 - alyosha (12/03/2012) [-]
I go to MicroCenter, and they have a huge build your own system department with everything you could ever want. It's basically the Holy Land for PC geeks. I don't look at parts very often, but on black friday two years ago I spent $1,700 building a machine which was only very recently passed up by the $2,000 Alienware model.

Once you have the parts, it's pretty easy to build. Kinda reminds me of Lego. Parts go in a specific place, and you just plug them in. Do it right, and the box will fire up right away. Easy.
#94 to #90 - disturbedmaster (12/03/2012) [-]
what about things like memory dont you have to match numbers up and **** for it to run
User avatar #101 to #94 - alyosha (12/03/2012) [-]
Depends on your motherboard. They'll only support up to so much RAM each. Also, if you run a 64-bit OS (which you should) then it'll take more RAM than a 32-bit. It's a lot easier than it seems, believe me.
#105 to #101 - disturbedmaster (12/03/2012) [-]
i have a 64 bit with 8 gigs of ram which i plan to upgrade
i also plan to upgrade my mobo cpu and psu
im thinking of gettign 8 core and if i get a mobo can i take anything from my old pc mainly esata drves cd and so on and put it in essentualy im gutting the mobo from a hp and keeping everyting else
User avatar #110 to #105 - alyosha (12/03/2012) [-]
I have no idea. If you're gutting a prebuilt and trying to Frankenstein the parts into a new machine, it could differ based on what box you're gutting. I imagine you can rip the drives out of it. Anything that comes apart should work fine with the new rig. Otherwise, CD drives are pretty cheap, as are most other things of that nature. Simple enough to buy new ones. I don't know for certain if all that will work, because I've only built one machine and that was completely from the ground up. You'd have to ask the people at the store for specific help; I'm just a hobbyist. I don't want to give you bad advice and screw your rig up.
#115 to #110 - disturbedmaster (12/03/2012) [-]
i pretty much wanna over haul it into a better than norm pc with out have to replace every part i want to make the overhauld one into a pc server and connect it to my main rig which i have yet to build using crossover cables
User avatar #165 to #115 - alyosha (12/03/2012) [-]
That's above and beyond anything I've done, so I can't really help you out much. Sorry. You'd be best off checking with the people at a store (MicroCenter if you can make the trip) or asking around on web forums dedicated to building computers. In theory, you should be able to take out anything from the old machine and stick it into the new one without too much trouble. As long as there aren't any integrated components which don't come off the motherboard. But I've never done anything like that before so I have no idea if it would actually be as easy IRL as it is in my head.
User avatar #57 to #52 - yojo (12/03/2012) [-]
I gave you my thumb and hopefully others will too. Thank you
#61 to #57 - alyosha (12/03/2012) [-]
Why thank you!
Have a cheap laugh at Apple's expense.
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User avatar #62 to #61 - yojo (12/03/2012) [-]
Oh lawd
#66 to #62 - alyosha (12/03/2012) [-]
Just for comparison.
User avatar #51 to #38 - theelderscrolls (12/03/2012) [-]
Macs dont give you what you are paying for and they are very limited to customization.
User avatar #99 to #51 - csmithyo (12/03/2012) [-]
have you ever had one?
User avatar #246 to #99 - theelderscrolls (12/03/2012) [-]
yes. i have.
#151 to #99 - howaboutnsfw (12/03/2012) [-]
changing the background doesn't count as customization...
User avatar #247 to #151 - theelderscrolls (12/03/2012) [-]
so when was the last time you upgraded your battery?
#45 to #38 - Rascal (12/03/2012) [-]
**** storm Incoming.
User avatar #39 to #38 - mondominiman ONLINE (12/03/2012) [-]
Truthfully, not much the specs between a pc and a mac are very similar. The only difference is when you're buying a MAC you're basically paying for the brand that's why it's 2-3 X more expensive.
User avatar #40 to #39 - yojo (12/03/2012) [-]
Then why do people buy macs if it's no different from a PC?
User avatar #44 to #40 - sniperfumbles (12/03/2012) [-]
The name. Mac's are basically a long lasting college fad. The biggest selling point is that they're supposedly geared more to art and music studio uses; however, the clones of the same programs are offered for both Windows and Linux that are on par or even superior than Mac program, on top of often being free or dirt cheap (<$10) in the case of Linux, due to the huge programming community.
User avatar #41 to #40 - mondominiman ONLINE (12/03/2012) [-]
They have money and probably believe the lie that Macs never get viruses?
User avatar #42 to #41 - yojo (12/03/2012) [-]
Oh... and they are shinier
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