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User avatar #282 - ishouldplayzelda (11/29/2012) [-]
funny how people talk about how free america is. has anyone noticed how america isn't a libertarian nation? and you call yourselves "free"
User avatar #306 to #282 - sorrowofdaedalus (11/29/2012) [-]
Funny how you speak when you do not understand. As your username suggests, you must lead a very unfulfilled life, despite knowing what would be the best to fill that void. America is filled with people who'd LIKE the government to follow a Libertarian regime. It isn't this way because the government knows that most of America is made of up dumb, fat sheep who couldn't handle such responsibility well.
User avatar #341 to #306 - ishouldplayzelda (11/29/2012) [-]
so, how does the fact that most US citizens (who probably don't even deserve their citizenship) are lazy and irresponsible detract from the fact that america severely lacks the freedom that it's supposed to have? america is known for it's supposed "freedom" is it not? libertarianism (the root word of which being "liberty" which basically means "unrestricted freedom") is one of the most free forms of government, is it not?

you're point is ridiculous. just because some people are stupid, does not mean that all the rest don't deserve the freedom they're meant to have
User avatar #346 to #341 - sorrowofdaedalus (11/29/2012) [-]
Because a non-libertarian government is much easier to work with, especially seeing as all of these dumb sheep would be making foolish decisions, and if you don't like it, you have the freedom to leave. Also, my point isn't ridiculous. A house divided can't stand, in the same context, we can't hold a standard with only 'the rest' in mind. You have to think of EVERYBODY, because EVERYBODY is affected.
User avatar #350 to #346 - ishouldplayzelda (11/29/2012) [-]
so you think that i don't deserve freedom because the guy down the road is a ******* idiot... yeah ok, that makes sense.
what i fail to comprehend the most about what you're saying is that apparently you think that stupid people don't deserve actual freedom, like they're second class citizens or something. does "liberty and justice for all" not mean anything to you? cause it doesn't mean anything to the US government either. it's like Doug Stanhope said "you want to fix the Pledge of Allegiance, put a disclaimer at the end: with liberty and justice for all...must be 18, void where prohibited, some restrictions may apply, not available in all states."

one vital thing you fail to realize is that we'd be no worse off with libertarianism than we are now, since it mainly punishes crimes against others. it's not like people would be allowed to just murder and rape because they're stupid because they would be punished just the same
User avatar #352 to #350 - sorrowofdaedalus (11/29/2012) [-]
Yes, I feel that certain freedoms we shouldn't allow you on behalf of the idiot down the street who will take those freedoms too far, as well as all of his idiot neighbors as well. I don't feel we would be 'no worse off', I believe we'd be much worse off as a result if we were a libertarian nation. And, as all well and good it is that the stupid folks can't murder and rape, giving them all sorts of freedoms that will just make them upset at the government for not keeping a better hold on them will just result in mass riots filled with dumb sheep who become dumb bulls instead. Angry, stupid, bulls.
User avatar #359 to #352 - ishouldplayzelda (11/29/2012) [-]
prove it. show me historical proof that that at least 2 civilizations or nations in the past have turned libertarian and completely fell apart as a result and i will believe you
User avatar #360 to #359 - sorrowofdaedalus (11/29/2012) [-]
Trick question, Libertarianism is a relatively new form of government, and hasn't had the time that others have for the flaws to bring things down.
User avatar #368 to #360 - ishouldplayzelda (11/29/2012) [-]
so all you're doing is attempting to back up a hypothesis that claims that society crumbles when people are allowed to do whatever they want, as long as they're not harming or negatively affecting anyone else
User avatar #369 to #368 - sorrowofdaedalus (11/29/2012) [-]
Yes, and you're attempting to back up that such a thing wouldn't occur just because it hasn't happened before, knowing damned well that such a foolish idea hasn't even been put in to practice long enough in history for there to be an example of its failure. When people have wants and desires that the government is unable to grant because of the libertarian regime, **** will hit the fan and anarchy will ensue.
#305 to #282 - gliese (11/29/2012) [-]
its turning into a police state more and more everyday...
#307 to #305 - anon (11/29/2012) [-]
says every douche with a computer. cunt.
#308 to #307 - gliese (11/29/2012) [-]
sign in and say that and i might take it seriously.
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