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User avatar #115 - stevestevestevetwo (11/25/2012) [-]
My sister is anorexic and is a total cunt about her weight and what she eats. She rejects all help so there's pretty much no way for her to recover. Back in high school every day we'd want to go get Burger King and Chipotle because that was godly to us but now she will barely scratch the surface of a kids menu Mac n Cheese because everyone is so uptight about whether or not what they eat is healthy or not. This post is more relevant to me than ever.
#120 to #115 - augustusxxiv ONLINE (11/25/2012) [-]
Just deprive her of all food. Then when she asks for it, just chuckle lightly and shake your head, then say "But you need to lose more weight, fatty! I could hear you coming from the sound of your thighs scraping together!" Then, as she slowly starves to death, eat rancorously in front of her, and look at her quizzically when she looks like she desires the food. She'll hopefully then see the lunacy of her own actions and reform.   
OR you can starve yourself with her, and she might see the harm it does to her family and stop.
Just deprive her of all food. Then when she asks for it, just chuckle lightly and shake your head, then say "But you need to lose more weight, fatty! I could hear you coming from the sound of your thighs scraping together!" Then, as she slowly starves to death, eat rancorously in front of her, and look at her quizzically when she looks like she desires the food. She'll hopefully then see the lunacy of her own actions and reform.

OR you can starve yourself with her, and she might see the harm it does to her family and stop.

User avatar #121 to #120 - stevestevestevetwo (11/25/2012) [-]
That's ******* cruel.
User avatar #123 to #121 - augustusxxiv ONLINE (11/25/2012) [-]
Cruelty is sometimes the only way to get to people. It may sound Machiavellian, but it's something of a mental shock and awe, and shows them their own lunacy and basically for them to stop ******* around. I speak from experience.
#128 to #123 - eminemhas (11/25/2012) [-]
Excuse me, But what in the blue bloody balls Does "Machiavellian" mean, Good sir?

Excuse my stupidity.....
User avatar #131 to #128 - augustusxxiv ONLINE (11/25/2012) [-]
Based on the political philosophy illustrated in book "The Prince ( il Principe) by Niccolo Machiavelli, it's a very hard line, unscrupulous, "ends justify the means" philosophy, saying you should do any and all to achieve your objective.
#134 to #131 - eminemhas (11/25/2012) [-]
You're as smart as ******* Einstein, why are you here with all the ********* on funnyjunk?
User avatar #139 to #134 - augustusxxiv ONLINE (11/25/2012) [-]
I am no smarter than anyone else, nor is anyone here particularly stupid. I'm trying to provide an unorthodox method to bring someone out of their debilitating eating disorder. Logic and Reason can only do so much for some, while the absence of it added with aggressive almost satirical behavior can provide results.
#142 to #139 - eminemhas (11/25/2012) [-]
Do You Have A Facebook? Message me Your name if you do........You're Amazing......
User avatar #163 to #142 - augustusxxiv ONLINE (11/25/2012) [-]
Haha, thanks for the compliment. however, I'm sure you understand the reservations one would carry in so haphazardly divulging that information to someone they met only moments ago, and exchanged such little conversation with. I'll be happy to friend you over FJ however! I thank you kindly for your compliments.
#127 to #123 - impaledsandwich (11/25/2012) [-]
You could, of course, get her to see a ******* psychologist, which will work. If it doesn't somehow, she'll still be alive and you won't be a murderer. By the way, are you sure killing your sister for her lunacy isn't lunacy itself?
User avatar #133 to #127 - augustusxxiv ONLINE (11/25/2012) [-]
You wouldn't go to that extreme so as to actually let her perish. Rather push her to the brink using tactics of starvation that she is applying to herself to your own person, so that she will see the damage it does through an unbiased eye. That, or whole-heartedly encourage her behavior, even going out of the way to progress it, so when it goes to far, and you push her still ever on the brink of starvation, she will cave and see how crazy she's being.
User avatar #143 to #133 - impaledsandwich (11/25/2012) [-]
That second one is actually a little better and, if done perfectly, could work. In all likelihood, she knows what she's doing is wrong, and if people start, out of nowhere, being encouraging about it, maybe that knowledge will hit her harder and she will cave. However, I don't feel that starving yourself or your sister is the solution. If you starve yourself, well, you're just doubling the problem. If you starve her, there's no sure way to keep her just a little alive, just enough to repent, without killing her. You can guess and get pretty close, but it's not nearly as controllable as, say, a gunshot. Assuming she survives, if she's at all sane she'll know not only that she should eat something, but that you essentially tortured her until she came to that conclusion.

Another matter: terror isn't as effective as you seem to think. Sometimes it works, other times it blows up in your face. The years leading up to the Russian Revolution are a good example: the peasants rioted, so the Czar had troops fire into the crowd. Scary as balls. But years later, the people lose their terror and remember their anger, and look what happened.

Lastly, intentionally harming anyone, especially your sister, is evil, regardless of the reason.
User avatar #156 to #143 - augustusxxiv ONLINE (11/25/2012) [-]
I believe the ends justify the means. You do what you must for what you deem as the greater good. As for the logistics of the problem at hand, yes you are most certainly right, it would be risky and hard to control. However, I believe most gambles come with large reward.

As for your last statement.....I am a person of reason, of conviction, and of will, and will use these character traits so endowed upon me to do what I believe is right, meaning what is for the greater good. Morals, in essence, are an attachment to help ensure that one does as what I stated. But, it is ultimately an outdated and cumbersome belief to hold. As such, I don't operate on moral reasons, I operate on rational, efficient reasons. On reasons in which I believe the target will benefit most.
User avatar #162 to #156 - impaledsandwich (11/25/2012) [-]
I believe it is in your best interests that you change that opinion of yours. Please lie down on the rack and we'll get started.
User avatar #166 to #162 - augustusxxiv ONLINE (11/25/2012) [-]
I am perfectly fine with my opinions, hence I hold them to be as such. Except for extreme cases, or isolated instances, morality largely is useless to me, as it does nothing that reason and logic could not do.
User avatar #172 to #166 - impaledsandwich (11/25/2012) [-]
I'm sure you get covered in bitches, but I have no way of proving that your opinions aren't just a delusion. You could like peppers. I hate them. If the rest of society hates peppers, then you're obviously the wrong one in its eyes, so your illness should be cured. Since the ends justify the means, I could begin pouring molten iron over your feet until you realize that peppers suck. This is far beyond an extreme case, but I hope you see my point.
User avatar #173 to #172 - augustusxxiv ONLINE (11/25/2012) [-]
That's your prerogative to do so. Those who win are ultimately those who are morally right, as history will provide testimony to. What might be the accepted truth in one era could prove to be a complete fallacy in one hundred years time. As such, one is forced to believe that there is no truth, only opinions that are victorious over others in the present. The Nazi Party is only evil because their enemies won the war.
User avatar #174 to #173 - impaledsandwich (11/25/2012) [-]
Huh. So, if there is no truth and only opinion, is it safe to say that the Sun doesn't exist? Because it was there earlier today, and I got a pretty good look at it.
User avatar #175 to #174 - augustusxxiv ONLINE (11/25/2012) [-]
There is a difference between what is there and what you perceive it to be. Yes, the sun is there in the sky. To you, it is a star that provides for us light and warmth to which our planet orbits. To the Ancient Egyptians, the sun was a god named Ra, who through his wisdom brought the creation of all things, who traveled on two different boats which led to day and night.

As such, Truth is only as how you wish and perceive it to be.
User avatar #176 to #175 - impaledsandwich (11/25/2012) [-]
Do you have any opinions of your own, then? Do you believe that the Sun is a ball of hydrogen and other gases, or that it's a god on a boat? Do you think the Nazis are evil because we kicked their asses or because genocide, racism, and unprovoked war are bad?

Also, you can't rely purely on reason. I know, it sounds stupid, but hear me out. Cold logic and reason will get you quite a lot of good things. However, if applied universally, they'll make you not even try talking to the 9/10 over there because you're not attractive enough to find such a suitable mate, so you go straight for the 4/10 because you know that you're at least handsome enough for that. They'll make you run away from a burning building without a second glance, even though you know there are still people trapped inside. There are times to only think about a situation, times to only feel, and times to do both. In fact, if your philosophy is taken to its logical conclusion, you end up with a Vulcan. Vulcans are cool, but God damn are they boring.
User avatar #177 to #176 - augustusxxiv ONLINE (11/25/2012) [-]
I apply my own beliefs to what I deem to be for the best common interests. As such, I would do what I can to save as many individuals as possible over myself, because their lives are worth more than mine. As for the other example you provided, in that scenario I would take the risk, for there is nothing to lose in the scenario and potentially much to gain, and as such would make logical sense to try.
#138 to #133 - anon (11/25/2012) [-]
Or you drive her to kill herself as she feels hopeless to ever getting better from your 'motivation'.
User avatar #141 to #138 - augustusxxiv ONLINE (11/25/2012) [-]
There's always a risk involved. It's only through someone's incompetence that this could lead to the target's death. With people such as this, you cannot appeal to them with orthodox logic and rationality. Using mimicry in a satirical manner, aggression and force can at times yield results.
User avatar #116 to #115 - yutakenusername (11/25/2012) [-]
Sometimes you have to understand that it's something going on mentally. Not always the case, it can be for attention, though it sometimes is just something going on in her mind that she can't control.
User avatar #117 to #116 - stevestevestevetwo (11/25/2012) [-]
Yea I know it is, but she rejects all help like I said so it's impossible or her to recover.
User avatar #118 to #117 - yutakenusername (11/25/2012) [-]
It is hard when she rejects help. My girlfriend is the same way in some cases. I know the feel.
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