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User avatar #19 - Loppytaffy (11/22/2012) [-]
I think Italy would be more appropriote.

France had a 100 year war, and they won with a 16yo girl who they'd only met 4 months prior.
They had most of Europe under their rule during Napoleon's reign.
They're second to only Denmark and Sweden for the number of wars between them and Britain.
AND, Mr America, France fought with America for your independance. If France really were the surrender monkeys everyone says they are, then America would still be under Britain's rule.
User avatar #210 to #19 - cudlefish (11/22/2012) [-]
Is that right mr. smarty pants, i think it was just a joke
#141 to #19 - imeandus (11/22/2012) [-]
"They're second to only Denmark and Sweden for the number of wars between them and Britain."
User avatar #150 to #141 - Loppytaffy (11/22/2012) [-]

that is where I learnt it from
#156 to #150 - imeandus (11/22/2012) [-]
here have this XD
#139 to #19 - jeroylenkins (11/22/2012) [-]
"they won with a 16yo girl who they'd only met 4 months prior"
pls explain
User avatar #151 to #139 - Loppytaffy (11/22/2012) [-]
Jeanne D'arc
User avatar #145 to #142 - jeroylenkins (11/22/2012) [-]
Oh. She's a ******* badass of a woman.
User avatar #148 to #145 - imeandus (11/22/2012) [-]
spiking of badasses, hers a page i think you'd enjoy. =)

User avatar #152 to #148 - jeroylenkins (11/22/2012) [-]
Thanks man, I forgot that things so awesome could actually happen in real life.
#164 to #152 - imeandus (11/22/2012) [-]
no problem bro ^^
pic unrelated
#119 to #19 - anon (11/22/2012) [-]
they needed help from 2 other countries and the support of foreigns living in it when attacking turkey in ww1
User avatar #154 to #119 - Loppytaffy (11/22/2012) [-]
And? The Allies were five strong for most of WWII.
It's very rares if a countries wars with no help from another.
#53 to #19 - sanctussvindex (11/22/2012) [-]
France lost Canada to the Brits be for the American Revolutionary War. The french lost France in WWII And the Americans (With help of handful of others) liberated France.

They helped us gain our independence, We helped them keep theirs. Fair trade.
User avatar #59 to #53 - Loppytaffy (11/22/2012) [-]
Okay but that still doesn't mean they're cowards.
Prussia, Spain, Britain, Holy Rome, Turkey, Rome and Germania lost entire empires.
User avatar #80 to #59 - sanctussvindex (11/22/2012) [-]
I never said they were cowards, I was just bringing a counter point
User avatar #88 to #80 - Loppytaffy (11/22/2012) [-]
A counter point to my saying that they were not cowards would be to bring up a point that showed they were.
User avatar #103 to #88 - sanctussvindex (11/22/2012) [-]
A counterpoint isn't simply the inverse to something it is another related idea that doesn't run paralleled to the original statement. Why we're arguing about this; I have no idea.
User avatar #35 to #19 - arziben (11/22/2012) [-]
the last part is actually the only good reasons I have to wish we would be surrendering fags
#109 to #35 - anon (11/22/2012) [-]
yes but then wouldn't there be the chance that you would still be under nazi control.
User avatar #173 to #109 - arziben (11/22/2012) [-]
maybe, or maybe we wouldn't have petain who annouced the surrendering in the name of everyone (that faggot bastard)
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User avatar #24 to #19 - mikhailovych (11/22/2012) [-]
yes but France is the only country I can think of that surrendered to the same people, in two consecutive wars where the side they were on then brought it back and won both
User avatar #50 to #24 - conoriskool (11/22/2012) [-]
who did they surrender to in 2 consecutive wars?
User avatar #40 to #24 - Loppytaffy (11/22/2012) [-]
Lol. Italy has a history of being Europe's bitch. You want a country under your control? Italy is your guy.

And even after being freed from Austrohungarian rule, and Holy Roman Empire rule, and Roman Empire rule, they willingly joined the Allies in WWI, and the Axis in WWII.
Well, North Italy, that is. South Italy has been Spain's place since Austria was nice enough to give the sinking kingdom a lacky.
User avatar #33 to #24 - nonouch (11/22/2012) [-]
You might want to check about that WW1
User avatar #32 to #24 - kumimono (11/22/2012) [-]
Hum, which two wars were these? They were defeated in the Franco-Prussian one, bled white but stood their ground in The Great War, and did surrender, after being soundly beaten, in WWII. If I remember my history, it usually took the rest of Europe to gang on them to take them down (Napoleonics), or some other heavy hitter (Brits, Germans) to defeat them. And this usually after years of struggle, or against someone, who basically changed the rules of warfare, against whom no power on Earth could have stood, like the Germans. (General Winter doesn't count. :) ) Also, what bugs me with these, is that while the brits fled accross their moat of a channel with their tails between their legs, french fought on, covering the mishmash of a retreat... And the fleeing is called "The Miracle of Dunkirk", and french get called cowards?
User avatar #73 to #32 - fireemblemrox (11/22/2012) [-]
Actually, most of France didn't even have much of a battle before surrendering WWII. The reason was because they left a gap in the Maginot line through Belgium, which they assumed would be left alone as a neutral country. France was prepared for a fight all along the rest of the border, but Hitler marched his troops through Belgium, and with so many troops in the French heartland, it was no surprise they surrendered.

I really think the Italians are bad fighters. They're a great cultural country, but militarily they did poorly. Essentially they fought amongst themselves, got Rome burned down for pissing off a king, been occupied by France and Spain, suffered humiliating losses and joined late for WWI, and got boned to the point of forcing Mussolini to be rescued after capture in WWII. They got beaned pretty hard in Africa in WWII, and that doesn't even mention their loss to Ethiopia during the Imperialist Age, the only real instance of an imperial nation losing to an African one. GG
User avatar #41 to #32 - Loppytaffy (11/22/2012) [-]
General Winter is Russia's, no?
User avatar #91 to #41 - bwlad (11/22/2012) [-]
the russian winter was a huge bonus in the war but the biggest mistake was stalin himself, he killed more then 50.000 high-ranking officers and closed himself up in his datcha for 3 days after the german attack, keeping the army without any orders.
User avatar #28 to #24 - fgtometer (11/22/2012) [-]
**** sake! If Britain, USA or even Russia (in spring) had blitzkrieg rolled out on them in full scale and effect, with little outside help, they also would've surrendered. Makes sense when you're already surrounded by fascists (Spain, Italy and Germany), and the alternative is to do what Stalin did in Russia (slash and burn as you retreat)
#30 to #28 - whiteflagstrangler (11/22/2012) [-]
Well, it was a little bit more complicated than that.
User avatar #74 to #30 - longdeadhero (11/22/2012) [-]
User avatar #31 to #30 - fgtometer (11/22/2012) [-]
******* LOL at that picture. Of course it was, but it's fairly facile to say "goddamn surrender monkeys" when the French had the most intense land warfare of the 20th century bearing down on them. Just rustles my jimmies is all!
User avatar #22 to #19 - severepwner (11/22/2012) [-]
And Italy...
User avatar #89 to #22 - Loppytaffy (11/22/2012) [-]
Italy has been ruled by different countries since its formation during the Roman Empire. After Rome's collapse, Italy was divided up and fought over by many countries like France and Spain, but Austria (and Hungary, who were unified as Austro-hungary) ruled North Italy for a long times during the Holy Roman Empire's time.
There's really only two wars that Italy had not run from (that I know of)- that's against the Ottoman empire where he stood alone, and the war between him and Austro-Hungary. But I don't know if he had help with that one.
#20 to #19 - anon (11/22/2012) [-]
shut up and show your white flag :D
#23 to #20 - thecrazyonedf (11/22/2012) [-]
shut up and show your username.
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