Early Atheism. sounds legit to me. ls God willing to present evil. but not able? Then he is not , Is he able. but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both
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Early Atheism

sounds legit to me

ls God willing to present evil. but not able?
Then he is not ,
Is he able. but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence a: emkth evil‘?
Is he neither able gerbilling?
Then why call him God?
Epicurus
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Winning since 33 A. D.
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User avatar #501 - YoDawgWeHeard (11/21/2012) [-]
Every evil action has a lighter outcome.
#496 - infinitereaper (11/21/2012) [-]
Bla bla bla Athiesm, bla bla bla gawd   
bla bla bla agnostic   
   
Bla bla bla-   
   
We are all probably very much wrong/stuck in illusion about how reality actually works and what existence really is.   
   
Stop the violence, can't we all just get along?
Bla bla bla Athiesm, bla bla bla gawd
bla bla bla agnostic

Bla bla bla-

We are all probably very much wrong/stuck in illusion about how reality actually works and what existence really is.

Stop the violence, can't we all just get along?
User avatar #645 to #496 - thebritishguy (01/01/2013) [-]
but religion causes lots of violence, it is never good to be ignorant
User avatar #646 to #645 - infinitereaper (01/01/2013) [-]
People cause violence. Such is ignorance. This post is old.
User avatar #647 to #646 - thebritishguy (01/01/2013) [-]
well what I am saying is we must fight people who are violent or unjust to innocent people, violence is not always wrong I don't think
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User avatar #489 - patrickmiller (11/21/2012) [-]
Atheists never bothering to know the actual facts since well forever.
User avatar #539 to #489 - noblexfenrir (11/21/2012) [-]
What facts? Also I hardly care about the time Epicurus lived, the merit is in the quote not the drunk philosopher who said it.
User avatar #572 to #539 - patrickmiller (11/21/2012) [-]
Calling the man who said it a drunk completely destroys any merit it had. And what I said had nothing to do with the message of the quote but how Atheists so firmly think they're smarter than everyone and don't bother to check facts like how the year he stated is completely wrong.
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User avatar #503 to #499 - patrickmiller (11/21/2012) [-]
Not on Christians side just saying Atheists always think they're way smarter then the religious and don't bother to learn the actual facts about something.
User avatar #494 to #489 - defconred (11/21/2012) [-]
prove it
User avatar #498 to #494 - patrickmiller (11/21/2012) [-]
Prove what that he doesn't have all the facts right here? Epicurus was alive 341 BC – 270 BC well before 33 AD
#500 to #498 - defconred (11/21/2012) [-]
pics or it didnt happen
pics or it didnt happen
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#466 - darthblam (11/21/2012) [-]
Even if I agree with the content, I very seriously hate it when people post content with some sort of religious statement... we really do not need this **** here...
#582 to #466 - munchito (11/22/2012) [-]
I just like watching the arguments break out over them, ****** hilarious
User avatar #465 - Sethorein ONLINE (11/21/2012) [-]
Ummm.... Epicurus... kinda lived between 341 BCE – 270 BCE o_o
User avatar #490 to #465 - malific ONLINE (11/21/2012) [-]
Atheists :

Think religious people are stupid for believing something unprovable;

Can't even get provable facts right.
#479 to #465 - broorb (11/21/2012) [-]
yeah, I was gonna say.
#459 - enesefw (11/21/2012) [-]
Alternatively, you could not get your panties in a bunch about what happens to everyone when they die.
User avatar #457 - drastronomy ONLINE (11/21/2012) [-]
god does anal

christians: 1
atheists: 0
#504 to #457 - anonymous (11/21/2012) [-]
but he hates homos
User avatar #444 - trollmetoday (11/21/2012) [-]
ATHEISTS

Thinking they're better than everyone since 33 A.D.
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User avatar #468 to #455 - eight (11/21/2012) [-]
Self proclaimed winners based off of direct evidence is the best. Christians would say "You can't disprove there is a God." That statement is wrong. Sometimes, no proof is proof itself.
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User avatar #481 to #475 - eight (11/21/2012) [-]
A theory...a theory is driven by measurable, tangible conclusions although not proven, have the possibility of being true with further research. A divine entity can not ever and will not ever be proven true because the only basis it has in reality is word of mouth and blind faith. It exists and survives because of human emotion driven by our psyche.
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User avatar #551 to #547 - eight (11/21/2012) [-]
Suns surface - proven to be 5500 degrees.
Space around sun - 1 million Kelvin

We do not know or understand how it works, but we have solid proof that those temperatures exist at those two places and we know there is an explanation for it even if we do not have the ability or technology to yet discover it. Because of what we know, even how little we know, we can develop theories as to why it works the way it does.

There is no proof or evidence of a divine being, we must take it completely on faith.

That is the difference. Science is measurable, religion is not. Science can be proven again and again. Religion evolves, dies out and changes according to society because we are the creators.
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User avatar #605 to #603 - eight (11/22/2012) [-]
Again, in some cases, no evidence is evidence in of itself. It is a red alert for don't waste your time. People who trust in a religion think they are better and smarter than me. Why do they get the right and I don't. At least I can come up with quite a lot of reasons to prove why they are foolish and wasting their time. They can't do the same.
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User avatar #608 to #607 - eight (11/22/2012) [-]
They derive their arguments through faith, an emotional connection in the brain. As we all know, emotions are often times misleading. I derive my evidence through things you can taste, see, smell or touch. That is not opinion, that is fact. Me not believing in God is an opinion. But my reasoning as to why I do not comes straight from fact. Blindly believing in something does not make it true, no matter how much you want it to. For the record, I used to be a Christian, I went to church every Sunday, I prayed every night, I read the Bible. And then a year or two ago, I finally got some sense knocked into me. I realized how backwards religious folk really are. How hypocritical they become. How often they break God's commandments and sin left and right. And above all, they become so incredibly prejudice. The Bible thinks for you, I think for myself now.
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User avatar #611 to #609 - eight (11/22/2012) [-]
A bit. Very little good comes from it. It causes many deaths, war and hate. It is no different than politics. It blinds people from what is really going on and gives them the excuse " It is God's will." when they see bad things happening. Often times, people don't even realize how prejudice they have become and if an non believer points it out, we are shunned and called Satan for wanting peace amongst different cultures.
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User avatar #633 to #632 - eight (11/26/2012) [-]
Lets break it down shall we?

Religion causes death, war and hate = Indisputable fact.

No different than politics = Considering the human race has a long history of mixing politics and religion and in many cases, religion is the controlling center of government, this too is fact.

Blinds people from what is really going on = point of view. From what I have seen, religious people (Christians) tend to avoid education, the news and they live a incredibly simple life, or at least try to avoid the complexities of this world as it bring "unnecessary" hardships. Again, if you were in my shoes, you would see it my way. You clearly have not experienced what I have and it shows.

Religious people tend to be prejudice = fact. I have yet to encounter a non prejudice religious person. Some are worse than others. Some wont seem prejudice until you really get to know them.

Non believers are shunned = If you are a Christian and follow the beliefs, you are encouraged to avoid all non believers as they can lead you down an unrighteous path. Not all follow this, therefore it is under the certain circumstance.

I may speak as if what I say is fact, but so does anyone who is trying to prove a point. You did it yourself.

I base my opinions off of life experience, so yes, I truly believe them. If you are going to sit there and tell me that religious people are not arrogant, you would truly be diluted. Religious folk always consider themselves to be superior to non believers. They may not admit it, they may not say it, but simply have a debate with one and you will see. In fact, I encourage you to challenge religious folk. If they submit themselves to the debate, that in itself proves they feel the need to educate you in something you do not know or understand. It shows that on some level, they know better, and are better.
In truth, the human race is arrogant. There is not one person on this Earth that does not display such a demeanor.
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User avatar #635 to #634 - eight (11/26/2012) [-]
Arrogance is a quality all humans display at one time or another. Some may always show it, some may have long spurts of it, some may rarely display it and some may have small spurts of it. It is there though. It is there just like happiness, anger, sadness and whatever other form of emotion you can think of. You know as well as anyone else what people do, say, and think behind close doors; out of the public eye. Famous people are no different. Serial killers are famous for being normal, happy people to friends and families...but it is all an act. Politicians are normally seen to be confident, outspoken, intelligent and charismatic. But as most people know it is an act. There are many priests who seem like normal, Godly men, peaceful, nice and warm. But the next day they show up on the 9-O clock news in handcuffs for molesting young children. Those may be extreme, narrow examples, but it is not far from the truth. There is something of a balance between negative and positive emotions for the majority of us.

" I think you focus too much on the stories in religion and not the moral values they teach (yes some are flawed, because mankind is flawed) "
As a non believer, I do quite the opposite. I understand the moral values of the Bible even if I dismiss the stories as ludicrous and fictional. I am often known to encourage others to read The Bible and other religious texts strictly for its depiction of how to live life and how to treat others. It is a very good book to build yourself into a good person, or at least to try. Now, we must remember that there are plenty of these types of books in existence besides religious based texts... And they advocate the basic moral structure.

It is when faith in a divine figure/s is thrown into the mix and with the abundance of other religions all preaching similar values that cause many believers to act in the negative ways they do. I can't be sure why, this is a question I have long since to answer.
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User avatar #637 to #636 - eight (11/26/2012) [-]
Absolutely, it seems to be embedded in us.
#441 - anonymous (11/21/2012) [-]
God can and does do both of these things.
User avatar #440 - sketchysketchist (11/21/2012) [-]
Look we're all going to die.
When we die and find out there's a right religion, atheists will be mocked for not even trying.
And if no religion is right, atheist won't win or laugh because they're just worm food and can't tell the whiny masses.
#552 to #440 - miaandvinny (11/21/2012) [-]
Or there's no right religion and there's just some random **** going on. Plus, if God is nice, wouldn't he allow a kind Athiest into heaven over a rotten christian? So why does it matter? Unless an athiest is an ******* , he or she should be allowed into heaven.
User avatar #571 to #552 - sketchysketchist (11/21/2012) [-]
Yeah but a bunch of stupid people think being atheist means they're smarter and better than religious people.
And they act like they have to convert everyone into atheism to save them because apparently they enjoy doing all the things atheists hate about religion.
#583 to #571 - munchito (11/22/2012) [-]
I don't know where people get the idea that religious or non-religious people think one is smarter than the other. People may say that the one idea of either God exists or God doesn't exist is stupid, but there is much more than just God beliefs to judge a person's intelligence.
User avatar #612 to #583 - sketchysketchist (11/22/2012) [-]
You know where the flying spaggetti monster came from?
Stupid people on the internet mocking the idea of god.
Why do they do it?
Because intelligent people who thought about the notion of god and decided there's no way he exists and religious people were offended.
So stupid people they think mocking the existance of god and ******* off religious people means they're better and smarter.
#573 to #571 - miaandvinny (11/21/2012) [-]
A bunch of stupid people think being Christian means they have more morals than non-religious perople and they act like they have to convert everyone to Christiany to save them,


It's a two way street.
User avatar #578 to #573 - sketchysketchist (11/21/2012) [-]
No, ******** think being christian automatically makes them saints.
Atheists trying to convert people is ironic when they complain christians shouldn't do the same thing, and it's even stupider because christians are told they're non-religious people's savior for converting them while atheists have no reasons.
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User avatar #509 to #433 - Ruspanic ONLINE (11/21/2012) [-]
How did matter come into existence?
We don't know. Why does that make religion necessary?
User avatar #512 to #509 - DrBobsPatient (11/21/2012) [-]
Because science is the search for answers to questions. Scientists accept religion and religion followers accept science. all I'm stating is that in order to at least make any progression you have to accept both, and that's what people are doing nowadays. Until that's proven, then science could very well be the dominating "force", but until then, many believe in both.
User avatar #524 to #512 - Ruspanic ONLINE (11/21/2012) [-]
I don't see the necessity of believing something for which there is no evidence. What's wrong with admitting you don't know and continuing to search for answers?

Although many scientists, like many people in general, have religious beliefs, I disagree that accepting religion is necessary for progress. Many times religious dogma has been an obstacle to scientific progress. Just look at the Theory of Evolution - the primary reason many people did not and still do not accept it is because the contrary teachings of their religion prevent them from examining it with an open mind. (There are those who reject it for purely scientific reasons, but those people are a small minority). Nowadays evolution is at the core of the modern field of biology, and helps to explain many things about the nature and history of living things.
Science is not a perfectly reliable source of information, but because it develops through observation, experiment and discovery it constantly corrects, improves and expands itself. By contrast, religion is simply "revealed" as indisputable fact, and changes according to cultural advancement or clerical decisions. For this reason it is not at all a trustworthy source of information.
User avatar #526 to #524 - DrBobsPatient (11/21/2012) [-]
I'm not saying that science is ******** , i'm saying that religion does provide some stability to everything. I'm not even going to reply to the lower half because it's common knowledge that evolution does exist and only extremists don't believe in it, and extremists scientists don't believe in creationalism or whatever it's called.

From looking at it from a scientific perspective, you brainstorm potential reasons as to why it is then prove it.

It's not the middle ages when any questions against religion ends up in imprisonment, but it is good to question and to seek the answers.

Off topic:
I changed from being in naivete once i got to college. I was struggling with depression and other **** that started 8 years prior to, and school situations was only making it worse. I turned to religion to help get me out of this and 4 years later it's been the cure. It could all be mental, but I'm just saying once you're in the real world, you can't make it with just stuff found in the lab setting.
User avatar #532 to #526 - Ruspanic ONLINE (11/21/2012) [-]
"extremists scientists don't believe in creationalism"
wat. Not believing in creationism is extremist now? Doesn't that make all atheists extremists?

Anyway, I understand that religion has benefits. It provides moral guidance and gives hope to the unfortunate and downtrodden. I respect that.
But that has little to do with progress, and nothing at all to do with knowledge.

Not everyone even needs religion for those purposes. It's perfectly possible to be a compassionate, moral and optimistic person without believing in religion. And even those atheists who could benefit from religion can't just spontaneously make themselves "believe". It would be nice to know that I'll be reunited with my dead loved ones after death, but whatever comfort that idea might give me is not enough to suppress my rationality.
#463 to #433 - broorb (11/21/2012) [-]
Okay
jesus

okay, so there's two theories, right? multiverse theory and one-true-observer-theory.

multiverse theory comes from the fact that on a sub-atomic level, until an electron is observed it is (theoretically) in all places around the atom at once. think of like... I'm at home, you're out. I don't know where you are, you could be at the park, at TKMax, at McDonald's, and so until I know exactly where you are you are theoretically in all places at once. (This is what Schroedinger's cat demonstrates - the cat is in both states of being alive and dead at the same time until it's observed as being in one set state.)
BEAR IN MIND this is a representation of what happens only at sub-atomic levels, of course it's not true to life situations.
So, in this sense, looking at the big bang, if in fact nobody was there to witness the molecular shenanigans at the time, every single possible ******* possibility came into existence at the same time. And that, good sir/miss, is the multiverse theory - the idea that there is a universe for EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE DIFFERENCE at any given time. 'course, these are infinite.

AND THEN
there is One True Observer theory (or something). If there is a God, and he was watching at the time of the molecular shenanigans in question, then universe theory comes into play - there would only be one.

Just because a question is unanswered is absolutely no excuse to put God on the other end of it. That's the mystery card and is totally and utterly useless to everyone.

Have a nice day.
User avatar #486 to #463 - DrBobsPatient (11/21/2012) [-]
Seems like you did a quick google search... It's a shame though, people are giving up on religion and moral values all together though. If it's been religion keeping people from physical satisfaction with no restraint, then I'd rather live in a religious world than what our world is becoming. We won't know till we die I guess.

(Atoms have mass too though)
#502 to #486 - broorb (11/21/2012) [-]
and I'm afraid I never said that atoms don't have mass
User avatar #507 to #502 - DrBobsPatient (11/21/2012) [-]
I'm stating that mad has to come from somewhere, and that i'm stating that scientists believe in a super natural being that created everything, and followers of religion believe that science has explained many things.
#491 to #486 - broorb (11/21/2012) [-]
Nah, I just know my **** .
I can't agree with you, sorry. There are those who are good without god and there are those who are wankers with god. There's evil on both sides.
User avatar #505 to #491 - DrBobsPatient (11/21/2012) [-]
Well how do we know that's correct?

There are hundreds of different theories for everything, and even though i am a science major, science is just a compilation of theories.

As a whole though, religion has provided us (united states as a nation) with ways to get us through everything and find it coincidental that as the nation's faith decreases, we don't seem to be able to do what we used to.

To quote JFK, "Pray not for easier lives, but pray to be stronger men." I feel that we just want the easy route with everything, but back in the day people asked for help and support from the all mighty being: God, Allah, Yahwey, and they achieved it...
#511 to #505 - broorb (11/21/2012) [-]
But you're asking for an answer to your question. If the glove fits, then wear it. Otherwise you're being petty and obstinate. I'd rather believe something that I enjoy explaining and that makes sense to me, rather than something an embarassing gap-filler like God.

When the periodic table was compiled, they left gaps because they knew not everything was discovered yet. That's what you have to do - leave a gap where nobody's sure. Not say, 'only this mysterious force is applicable here'.

Religion has inspired much good, true, but also much bad. There are those who use Jesus' teachings baselessly. I have no problem at all with those who are good and who believe in God, but if you ask questions I will endeavour to answer them - and I will most certainly endeavour not to use God as your mystery hero.
User avatar #515 to #511 - DrBobsPatient (11/21/2012) [-]
Too bad many scientists do. Scientists seek answers, and they believe in religion for the initial process, and then have theories for the rest.

They never left the periodic table blank, they filled it in as they discovered new elements because it was continuously being expanded. They put down what they knew, and left it at that.

The world isn't all that is. Everyone knows there's more out there that we'll never be able to understand/see, so why attempt to explain all of it when we as humans lack the capacity to, even when we can't even fix ourselves.
#518 to #515 - broorb (11/21/2012) [-]
because that's boring. why not sit at home and stare at the wall all day, it's much easier than going outside? looking for answers is great fun. I admire that you're asking questions, but not that you've assumed your own answer.

They did leave parts of the table blank. If you'll notice, it is still full of gaps. Hence why it is the shape it is.
User avatar #525 to #518 - DrBobsPatient (11/21/2012) [-]
The reason it's the shape it's in is how the elements behave and the number of their protons/electrons. 40 years ago with the apollo landing, they believed we knew all of the elements, and all of the elements that exist in the universe are here on earth too. we may not have recorded all of them to our knowledge, but they all are here. Plus, the only new elements that are being added to the periodic table are ones we're making in laboratories, and are unstable in the natural environment.

It is fun to explore and seek new answers, yes, but we don't have the ability to "just walk out the door" and are unable to analyze the components of stuff that's even 1 light year away.

Like I've said, i'm a man of science, and instead of simply stating that "we don't know," it's better to have a list of plausible options until tests can be done to account for said question.
#528 to #525 - broorb (11/21/2012) [-]
I've gotta run. I'd agree with you but we'd both be wrong, so I'm just gonna leave it here. Best of luck finding answers. Be a little more open. Bye. x
User avatar #529 to #528 - DrBobsPatient (11/21/2012) [-]
Ugh... Like I said, I'm a man of science, been studying science for well over 8 years.

I am open, just not to the idea of creation.


To you as well. Later.
#543 to #529 - broorb (11/21/2012) [-]
It was fun arguing with you this morning. I don't often get a chance to put my views into word. Sorry if I came across as brutish or obnoxious.
#470 to #463 - darthblam (11/21/2012) [-]
No matter what you are saying, if you have a picture of Morgan Freeman, your entire statement will be read in his voice.. and if it is read in his voice it will always sound like the best possible explanation.

******* science. Morgan Freeman science.
#472 to #470 - broorb (11/21/2012) [-]
******* science. Morgan Freeman science.

gold.
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#469 to #467 - broorb (11/21/2012) [-]
I'm very glad you enjoyed it.
User avatar #439 to #433 - enorus (11/21/2012) [-]
So religious people, how did God come into existence?
User avatar #446 to #439 - DrBobsPatient (11/21/2012) [-]
God is intangible/not physical (i think). He/she is, and forever will be.
User avatar #442 to #439 - sketchysketchist (11/21/2012) [-]
Super god and super jesus for dying for their super sins.
#460 to #442 - anonymous (11/21/2012) [-]
^this
#437 to #433 - sathrax (11/21/2012) [-]
And that my friend, is why I am an agnostic.

That one question.
#474 to #437 - broorb (11/21/2012) [-]
have a look at the paragraph up there with which I just answered their question. it might help.
#513 to #474 - sathrax (11/21/2012) [-]
Nope. I don't even need to read it all to know what ur saying is hypothetical theory. The mere fact that anything exists, any matter, any laws, any energy, any existance whatsoever, is illogical. Based on anything we know that has any logic behind it whatsoever, nothing should exist whatsoever. Theres no explaining it with quantum physics or other similar crap, because it's all theory. Just because theres a THEORY, doesn't mean it's right. After all, your theoretical science is exactly the same as the belief in god. IT's all theory. Which is why I don't believe in either one.

Let me explain to you exactly what an agnostic is, and why you can't just "help" one

A religious person, an atheist, and an agnostic are standing beside a tree. The religious person says "I believe there is a squirrel on the other side of this tree."
The atheist says "I believe there is not a squirrel on the other side of this tree."
The agnostic says "I believe there might be a squirrel on the other side of this tree, and there might not be"

Point is, until there is logical proof of either one, I will not declare that either one is incorrect. But I won't believe in religion, as it's illogical, and I won't believe in atheism, because it's just as illogical. If you're right, prove it, otherwise I'll just sit here eating my sandwich, not caring if there is or isn't a squirrel on the other side of this damn tree.
#516 to #513 - broorb (11/21/2012) [-]
aaalriiighht bro, chill out, I never said it would be the answer to your problems, I said it might help. being agnostic is also about being totally open to theories on either side, though, you know? don't be so determined to sit on the fence. You might learn something.
#517 to #516 - sathrax (11/21/2012) [-]
I know, I didn't mean to make it sound aggressive. But it's not that I"m determined to sit on the fence, I am open. I'm just only open to theories with proof and reason behind them. Or more accurately, I'm open to proof. I'm not open to theory. Theory is interesting and all, but it's not something I'm willing to take to heart.
#520 to #517 - broorb (11/21/2012) [-]
theory comes before proof, though. I don't know, I think that exploring theories is more interesting than avoiding them, but I guess not everyone has time for such things.
#523 to #520 - sathrax (11/21/2012) [-]
At least you're a lot more thoughtful than most people in the world. So kudos for that.
#522 to #520 - sathrax (11/21/2012) [-]
I think that in the end it doesn't really matter. If we find out great if we don't big deal. All this stuff is brought on by the desire to know what's coming after death really. And I don't think our knowing is going to change anything. Honestly I believe there MIGHT be a god, but if there is, it doesn't give two ***** what's going on down here, and whatever happens happens. If there isn't a god then it's the same deal. My only true belief is living life the best way you can. Not that YOLO retard way but in a way where you can be happy, without ruining other peoples lives in the proccess.
#527 to #522 - broorb (11/21/2012) [-]
You're right - there is certainly a great number of stupid atheists, but that isn't a representation of the group as a whole. The persuit of knowledge is a beautiful one; it shouldn't hurt people, I agree - but I think a person should never be shot down for trying to find something out. would you deny a child the answer to a question? so why an adult?

I gotta run. It was grand talking to you. Sorry if I came across as pretentious at first.
#534 to #527 - sathrax (11/21/2012) [-]
I don't think the pursuit of knowledge is bad, I just think that atheism is exactly the same as religion, but unlike religion it serves no purpose. Atheists say that there is no god, whatsoever, and believing there is or might be is stupid. They can't give you a better answer to the greatest questions, but they still firmly believe that, and that's dumb. If you don't have a better answer, you can't shoot down other peoples answers. IT makes you just as illogical. and worse is makes you blatantly defiant for no reason. I don't think pursuing knowledge is bad, but I think atheism as a reality is a dumb concept. At least from what I've gathered about atheism. Maybe the definition everuone uses is wrong, but from what everyone uses, that's what I gather. I also think that you can be quite scientific and agnostic at the same time. I won't lie, I think agnosticism is the most reasonable, open minded choice, based on the knowledge the human race has now.
#545 to #534 - broorb (11/21/2012) [-]
Sorry, rephrase - not 'nothing controlling us', just nothing supernatural watching and/or making us.
#544 to #534 - broorb (11/21/2012) [-]
I understand that. But like I say, intolerable atheists deserve to be put down, but so do intolerable theists. Atheism is, in its right, the belief that there is nothing controlling us. It doesn't serve a purpose, no - it's just the name for those who don't agree with the idea that there is a God. A person has a right to believe against something just as you have a right to believe in it, no? Otherwise no one would question anything.
#535 to #534 - sathrax (11/21/2012) [-]
While I also believe that truly believing there is a god is stupid, at least religion has a purpose. Of course I said that in the comments below these ones if u missed it, I explained why I think atheism is pointless.
#519 to #517 - sathrax (11/21/2012) [-]
Besides I'm also not a religion basher. I mean, even at the risk of a flood of red thumbs, I think atheism is way more stupid than religion. At least religion serves a purpose (when not taken the wrong way by fanatical zealots or counter progressive bible-thumpers) it gives people a guideline to live life the best way they can, and a lot of people need that or they tend to feel lost. But atheism... atheism gives nothing. the ONLY thing it gives is a false sense of superiority and the thought that you're smarter than everyone else.
#425 - anonymous (11/21/2012) [-]
Why the **** is this on FUNNYjunk?
User avatar #427 to #425 - improbablyyourdad (11/21/2012) [-]
Because beating dead horses is Fj's favorite pass time.
#435 to #427 - sathrax (11/21/2012) [-]
It's not a dead horse if it still talks I'm afraid.
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#420 - alexthecanadian (11/21/2012) [-]
God Bless us, Everyone.

"We must remember that all incapacity and distress is sent to us by God. Life and death, health and sickness, are all ordered by Him; and in whatever form they come, it is always to help us and for our good."
- St. Vincent de Paul, 1581-1660

Well, it was a good couple weeks without seeing religion on the frontpage. All good things must come to an end I guess...
User avatar #419 - checkemtrain (11/21/2012) [-]
Why cant people just let other people belive what they want?Do you really have to contradict them?To prove them wrong?To humiliate them for how they see life?
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User avatar #579 to #492 - checkemtrain (11/22/2012) [-]
im not saying Christianity is true,why cant people just keep their beliefs to themselves?
#412 - pawntrawn (11/21/2012) [-]
Oh god/no god, not this again...
Oh god/no god, not this again...
#443 to #412 - enorus (11/21/2012) [-]
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#411 - ibmonkeyboy (11/21/2012) [-]
Doesn't matter, we all die and 						*****					 going to happen (or not happen) regardless.
Doesn't matter, we all die and ***** going to happen (or not happen) regardless.
#404 - Elderly Man (11/21/2012) [-]
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