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User avatar #4 - bokkos (11/18/2012) [-]
Say what you will, you don't hear about beagles mauling children.
#22 to #4 - laxitup (11/18/2012) [-]
pitbull is a buzz word, half the time you hear a news story of a "pitbull" attacking someone, it isn't actually a pitbull. Using the word just gets more views
User avatar #23 to #22 - bokkos (11/18/2012) [-]
If it's an Staffordshire Terrier, American Pit Bulldog or St. Francis Terrier, it's a pit bull. Although I agree, a breed should be determined before any story pops up about it.
#9 to #4 - anon (11/18/2012) [-]
Pitbulls actually scored higher than Beagles on temperament tests.
User avatar #10 to #9 - bokkos (11/18/2012) [-]
"beagle mauls" gathers 101 results on Google.
"pitbull mauls" results in a staggering 7, 560 results.
>Note that quotations used in a google search will match exactly that inquiry when searched for
I'm an advocate of dogs as being a result of their upbringing, but pitbull enthusiasts should really pull their head out of their asses: Yes, a pitbull can be a lovely family dog if you raise it as such. However, people typically own pitbulls for their famous purpose, as multi-purpose security tools, and the numbers don't lie.
#12 to #10 - ThumbingUp (11/18/2012) [-]
That's because the media hypes pitbull attacks, but not beagle attacks. It has nothing to do with actual numbers of bites/attacks per year by breed.
User avatar #13 to #12 - bokkos (11/18/2012) [-]
" You need to login to view this link Releases 3-Year Fatality Study: U.S. Dog Bite Fatalities January 2006 to December 2008:
Of the 88 fatal dog attacks recorded by DogsBite.org, pit bull type dogs were responsible for 59% (52). This is equivalent to a pit bull killing a U.S. citizen every 21 days during this 3-year period. The data also shows that pit bulls commit the vast majority of off-property attacks that result in death. Only 18% (16) of the attacks occurred off owner property, yet pit bulls were responsible for 81% (13).
Pit bulls are also more likely to kill an adult than a child. In the 3-year period, pit bulls killed more adults (ages 21 and over), 54%, than they did children (ages 11 and younger), 46%. In the 21-54 age group, pit bulls were responsible for 82% (14) of the deaths. The data indicates that pit bulls do not only kill children and senior citizens; they kill men and women in their prime years as well.
The report also shows that of the six victim age groups documented, the 55 and older group suffered the most fatalities 26% (23), followed by the 2-4 age group 22% (19). Between the ages of 0-4, the study reveals that 14% (12) of the fatal attacks involved a "watcher," a person such as a grandparent or babysitter watching the child. Of these attacks, 75% (9) involved a grandparent type."
I know where you're coming from, but seriously: Ignoring statistics and stories of people who have been killed by pit bulls does not discount them. Fine, your pit bull is the loveliest of lovely dogs, but then there were the 9 grandparents killed by the same breed; that's loony logic.
User avatar #46 to #13 - giblets (11/18/2012) [-]
More pitbulls attack people because they're trained to be like that, and more pitbulls are trained to be like that because they have this reputation as fighting dogs.
Like in the UK they are often owned by chavs who want to look hard.
Another reason is that pitbulls usually need very long walks everyday, an American Pitbull needs 6-8 miles a day (according to my friend).

My friend has a rottweiler, which also have similar reputations with a lot of people, and it is the softest dog I've ever met. ( ****** huge too)

#16 to #13 - ThumbingUp (11/18/2012) [-]
I am not ignoring statistics. I am looking at them realistically.
Pit bulls are the most often REPORTED bites and the ones most often in the news. This frankly means nothing. Most pit bulls are fine dogs. Most dogs in general are fine dogs.

Pit bulls frequently pass temperament tests with flying colors and do much better than breeds you would expect them to lose to.
User avatar #15 to #13 - bokkos (11/18/2012) [-]
Sorry, the 9 grandparent statistic was for all attacks; my apologies for the screw up.
#14 to #13 - ThumbingUp (11/18/2012) [-]
Mm.. dogsbite.org is a very well known ANTI PIT BULL site. Unbiased sources ftw, kid.
User avatar #17 to #14 - bokkos (11/18/2012) [-]
Ummm... No. Look through a website before blowing it off because it disagrees with your views. Statistics gathered are from dog attacks on record, with supporting research from various humane and statistical groups (Tuft's, American Humane, etc.). They even state that their focus is on pit bulls, but since the majority of attacks are done by pit bulls, it hardly seems logical they would focus on anything else.
#18 to #17 - ThumbingUp (11/18/2012) [-]
Dude.. they even go as far as saying pitbulls have a "locking jaw," a common lie believed by anti pitbull folk. Pitbulls' jaws are no different than any other canine jaw. They absolutely do not "lock." I've seen the site before, I know what their views are.
User avatar #19 to #18 - bokkos (11/18/2012) [-]
The "locked jaw" phenomenon has nothing to do with physiological traits; it's hardly ever mentioned as such. The jaw locking simply refers to the pit bull's behavioral trait of not letting go after a successful grab; such trait is often seen in other dogs raised for security or fighting purposes (Rottweiler, a breed I am enamored with) and wild canines.
#21 to #19 - ThumbingUp (11/18/2012) [-]
Yes, it is mentioned as a physical trait. People who oppose certain dog breeds describe as something within the bones or muscles and claim it really to exist. It's nothing more than a myth.

"The infamous “locking jaw” myth has been assigned to a variety of dog breeds, including the American Staffordshire Terrier, Bulldog and Boxer, but it’s exactly that — a myth."

"There is some confusion over the "locked jaw" notion with pit bulls. There is no evidence for the existence of a physiological "locking mechanism" in the teeth or jaw structure of normal pit bull-type dogs"

"The jaws of the Pit Bull are functionally
the same as the jaws of any other breed, and this has been proven via
expert examination."

It's one of the hundreds of things people claim about pits in order to hype them into the killing beast media has made them today.
User avatar #24 to #21 - bokkos (11/18/2012) [-]
I was referring to the website you were labeling as solely "anti-pit bull" with so supporting information as such. Research behavioral aspects, and breeding practices, as I know for a fact that pit bulls were initially bred for combat, much as a basset hound was bred to track, and a few short decades of more temperate breeding will not change that.
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