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meant the child got the biggest portion which in this case meant he
ate the most toxins, he died. Ten plagues. Ten scientific explanations.
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User avatar #4 - Vandeekree (11/13/2012) [-]
There's also theories that it was started by an volcano an/or earthquake and the first born child in Egyptian society slept on the floor while the younger children were forced to sleep up on the room of the house and so when the volcano released methane pockets that hung low in the air, only the first born suffocated.

Atheists: Wasn't God, natural phenomenon.
Theists: So it did happen and that's how God did it.
So apparently nothing lost, nothing gained.
User avatar #334 to #4 - theninjakai (11/14/2012) [-]
Everybody wins.
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#537 - busterblader (11/14/2012) [-]
there are some religions who thinks like this: "my faith and  religion teach me that god created everything, studying science will teach me how he did it"
there are some religions who thinks like this: "my faith and religion teach me that god created everything, studying science will teach me how he did it"
User avatar #540 to #537 - noblexfenrir (11/14/2012) [-]
and that is why those religions are flawed, a presumed premise only leads to false results in relation to it.
User avatar #543 to #540 - busterblader (11/14/2012) [-]
but why? i think is good if they teach you that you need 3 things: soul,body and mind wich means you need a healthy body, you need to learn science and the soul is obviosuly the religion but i think people dont get that religion is based in "faith" not in facts like science. i know there are some really ****** up religions but not all of them are crazy
User avatar #544 to #543 - noblexfenrir (11/14/2012) [-]
Any religion that dictates there is a god is crazy, because they are under the impression that simply them believing is what makes their god real.

You have a body, and yes you have a mind. Define what the soul is please, because I have yet to see anything even hinting at a soul except this vague idea of just self-awareness which is just the mind through the looking glass.

You're right, religion is not based on facts, yet it still decides to make determinations on reality, and faith is a horrible source for those determinations.
User avatar #561 to #544 - katytrippy (11/14/2012) [-]
"Any religion that dictates there is a god is crazy"

I personally am not part of any organized religion, but the idea of a 'god' or as i like to say, a higher power, makes sense.
Because I view all humans as equals .
Animals as less intelligent beings.
Then plants, etc.

But, I also hate people.. then i thought 'there is no way humans are on the top'
Therefore came up with the idea that it is kind of weird to think that there is nothing greater than myself.

So i thought, What is bigger than me? [this is where it gets kind of complicated]
- Connections, the way you can become friends with someone, have a conversation enjoy their company feels pretty cool. A lot of times it is out of my control how i feel about another. Therefore is something greater than myself.
-- I boiled this down to Energy , Life , How everything is connected and action sets off another, its a beautiful balence of perfection. But i cannot control it.
THAT is my 'god'

It may seem dumb , but it makes me happy and reminds me that i am not always in control . My life got a lot better since and i feel safe in a way.

& Don't bash religion, if if makes people happy, just let it ride. It has nothing to do with you .




User avatar #564 to #561 - noblexfenrir (11/14/2012) [-]
When I say god I mean a being of omnipotence and omniscience, if you don't believe in this then it isn't a god. Simply because calling X, Y completely removes the need for X in the first place.

Just because it makes you happy, hardly makes it real. That is something I find discerning in many people of faith and religion, they don't care what is real, they prefer to substitute their own reality as long as they are happy.

You are always in control, telling yourself that bad things happen and good things happen because of some higher power is ridiculous when it can likely just be left to chance and come out with the same results.

I don't bash religion, I tell them it is wrong if it is. Simple as that, I do it because I care about reality and it worries me that people around me whose decisions also affect my life are so willfully ignorant.

User avatar #572 to #564 - katytrippy (11/14/2012) [-]
Im not always in control. There is a lot of things i can not control... Like when my brother died, not my fault, had nothing to do with me. I just had to accept it and move the **** on. And trust that for whatever reason it was supposed to happen.

And also logically in reality nothing is wrong or right. For all we know your life is just a dream. Its so unlikely, and i don't believe that's true. But you cannot prove that otherwise. Every scientific Law, is still only a theory. There is no such thing as 100%.

You aren't right, no body actually is . Accept it .
User avatar #580 to #572 - noblexfenrir (11/14/2012) [-]
"Im not always in control. There is a lot of things i can not control... Like when my brother died, not my fault, had nothing to do with me. I just had to accept it and move the **** on. And trust that for whatever reason it was supposed to happen. "

Oh I meant in the way you perceive your surroundings, I didn't mean like you can stop time or make that promotion happen, but most actions are direct or indirect reactions of the way you act with things you can control. Again though, this doesn't need a higher power, chance is just as likely. There doesn't have to be a reason you're brother died, it just did. There doesn't have to be a universal explanation for him dying, he just did. Simple as that.

It wouldn't matter if my life was all a dream, I am using logic to explain the surroundings of this reality, nothing more. So it would apply correctly either way.

Theories are essentially proven facts, science doesn't deal in 100% because it would be ridiculous to assume we know something absolutely, however it works equally to say it's ridiculous to assume something is real without any evidence at all. We as humans are not omniscient, so evidence is all we have to base our knowledge off of.

I don't need to be right because I'm not making a claim, because I am saying we don't know, and until we find evidence, we don't claim to know.
User avatar #591 to #580 - katytrippy (11/14/2012) [-]
Yeah that makes sense, that's why i have my own personal idea of what I persevere myself and around me as.
Exactly what you said is how i think about **** . "chance" is something that I can not control , therefore greater than me .
It gives me peace in my own head that someone as awful as me is not the top of the totem pole. If humanity was in charge of the universe, all would go to **** . Cause lets be honest Humans are stupid, they make mistakes, everyone does, there's no way around it.
I can sleep at night with the understanding that the false reality i thought up in my head makes me feel okay.
I might be 'wrong' but it reassures me that I exist, cause my family are all Nihilists, so it was very hard for me to accept that i was real for awhile, that's all i knew.
User avatar #593 to #591 - noblexfenrir (11/14/2012) [-]
Nihilists do have some...very strange rationalizations, however I do respect the thought on no objective morality.

Even if there was no higher power humans would never be in charge of the universe because we are a part of the universe, and just like everything else in it, we are going our own course to eventually return to it.

Then it's pointless for me to talk to you, if a false reality makes sense to you because it makes you happy then there is absolutely nothing I can say that will seem logical to you, you are choosing to be ignorant to be happy, the universe doesn't care if you are happy, reality doesn't care. However you do, so I suppose in the end if that's sufficient then that's all you need.
User avatar #598 to #593 - katytrippy (11/14/2012) [-]
There is more important things than this , what it comes down to is it doesn't actually matter what the **** you believe.

No one is going to stop me from dying young and miserable and 'right' , but if i want something better i kind of have to just set it aside. To focus on **** that matters right now, like school, and my job, and my friends. I want to focus on something that will actually contribute to the world. The answers to "life" don't matter, and i do not care. Id rather just live and be happy , and thing about what is 'right or logical' some other time.
User avatar #562 to #544 - busterblader (11/14/2012) [-]
but yet faith will always be the reason for religions and it doesnt matter what people believe or not, not because they dont believe in god they are bad persons, anyone can be good, the point is that religion or the bible are a "guide" to be a good person you can take it or not, you can be a good person without it or with it, the main problem with the whole bunch of religions are that the bible is not fully translated and people interpret it how they see is ok but some people use it in their own benefits and start tricking some people but this not only happens in reliigion, anyway, people can believe what they want or like what they want the only way to be ok is not doing things that hurts others and is difficult to me to continue talking because english is not my first language so is hard to understand some words
User avatar #566 to #562 - noblexfenrir (11/14/2012) [-]
It's fine I understood you perfectly, and yes you are right religions main problem is how flexible it is with it's interpretation. However, I also find the willful ignorance it causes to be almost equal in danger to that.
#607 to #544 - patmccrow (11/14/2012) [-]
As a matter of fact... Quantum mechanics does support certain "God-like" qualities. It would take more text to explain than this message can contain, but in a nutshell. In order for the big-bang to have occurred, there must have been someone/something aware of it. specifically a "person" who can be called an "observer" which is something modern science is only beginning to scratch the surface of what exactly that even means. But animals do not trigger an alteration in the Quantum world by their knowledge of, whereas a Human does. A sort of "Soul-like" thing, which there is quite literally a boat load more of research and science on, but that is an other subject entirely. But in essence. Yes. We have successfully proven that there is in fact a "God-like" being.
User avatar #612 to #607 - noblexfenrir (11/14/2012) [-]
Really? Because I have studied quantum mechanics and the only thing that roughely even scratches the idea of something causing the big bang is causality which only states that an action could have occurred well after the big bang and been it's cause. There is nothing that states a god like being is possible nor even required for the creation of the universe.
#614 to #612 - patmccrow (11/14/2012) [-]
I will try to cite my sources... No promises... It has been a while, but I will try.
User avatar #618 to #614 - noblexfenrir (11/14/2012) [-]
You could be citing a study done in 2002 (?) that was essentially based off of the fact that an electron changes it's actions based on whether or not it's being observed and the result of this study in relation to quantum mechanics is that an "observer" can essentially fluctuate the outcomes in the quantum vacuum. The problem is it is never stated an observer needs to be present only a process that can emulate the reason observing affects the vacuum, this could be energy added/removed, an anomaly that differs from the original structure (causality), etc etc.

Essentially in quantum mechanics the "observer" (atleast in this study) isn't a person but an outside process.
#628 to #618 - patmccrow (11/14/2012) [-]
While that is along the lines of what I was thinking, not quite... I can not find the name of the theory in question... Think more Schrödinger's cat. I Am also referring to the idea that matter is not as physical as is commonly believed, but are rather more... How should I say?... Solid thoughts? Ehh, it does not do it justice, I apologize. Perhaps given time I will find it, if I do I will try to get the name of the study to you...
#146 - lacsi (11/14/2012) [-]
"hail is wet"..........SCIENCE!
"hail is wet"..........SCIENCE!
#585 - SHAMU (11/14/2012) [-]
Lies. Everyone knows the red water was period blood.
Lies. Everyone knows the red water was period blood.
#123 to #113 - scramf (11/14/2012) [-]
Oh look, Godzilla was destroying Japan again. And where was Atheistzilla? At home reading classy **** and being respectful to his surroundings.

CHRISTIANS 1 ATHEISTS 1

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User avatar #328 to #123 - fyaq (11/14/2012) [-]
Christian god created the heavens and the earth

Atheist god has yet to do anything. Whens the last time you heard of him giving his only son to die for you? Greedy **** .

Christians 2: Atheists 1
User avatar #339 to #328 - scramf (11/14/2012) [-]
Tom Cruise jumped on Oprah's couch, Not Tom Cruise did not.

Christians: 2
Athiests: 1
Tom Cruise: Why?

Let's just all take a happy moment to realize that we aren't Scientologists. Or Tom Cruise

And when is the last time Atheist God killed everyone on the planet by floods cause he done ****** up or some **** like that? Never, that is when.

Christians: 2
Atheists: 2
Tom Cruise: Why are you still here Tom? Leave.
#487 to #328 - rawrasaurus (11/14/2012) [-]
MFW "Atheist god".
User avatar #507 to #487 - fyaq (11/14/2012) [-]
its a joke
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User avatar #28 - slapchoppin (11/13/2012) [-]
>implying god doesn't use science

the bible just says **** happened it doesn't care how it happened
#341 - freight (11/14/2012) [-]
Thats it heres your ******* proof
#369 to #368 - whyfalsewhy (11/14/2012) [-]
And finally.
#71 - lulzdealer (11/14/2012) [-]
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i love how a lot of aspects of religion can in fact be proven plausible by science.
#109 to #71 - John Cena (11/14/2012) [-]
-And then it turns into a paradox because theoretically these events could have been executed by a higher power (whichever you choose to believe, or not believe). It's really sad how the majority of you who call yourselves some sort of scientists applaud from behind a computer screen but aren't able to think deeply and argue for yourselves. Do you love that? (I also am a great supporter of science, not a butthurt catholic/religious radical, but I don't think it's wise to jump to the conclusion that you know god doesn't exist in any form.) Stop clapping.
User avatar #112 to #109 - lulzdealer (11/14/2012) [-]
i am religious and i'll clap all i want.
#119 to #112 - mayplo (11/14/2012) [-]
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User avatar #514 to #109 - sacredmagic (11/14/2012) [-]
He didn't say these events couldn't be performed by a higher power, only that aspects of religion can be proven plausible. Holy hell, the post is one piece of bad luck after another. The odds are enormous of all those things happening in succession. It could have been random chance and it could have been the product of a higher power. We can't know! It is impossible to know! You label the entirety of a community shallow, uneducated thinkers? Please, that thought is shallow and uneducated. Dolt.
User avatar #331 - redwolfradolf (11/14/2012) [-]
Could it be theoretically possible that God uses natural and rational events to acheive his goals?
#342 to #331 - phuckinthingsucks (11/14/2012) [-]
Don't be ridiculous that wouldn't make sense at all...

sarcasm
User avatar #345 to #342 - redwolfradolf (11/14/2012) [-]
so kidding aside, can we all agree that there could HYPOTHETICALLY be a god, and that it doesn't HAVE to be "Magic"
#353 to #345 - srslyjakecease (11/14/2012) [-]
his ability to manipulate the forces of nature could be considered "magic"   
   
also, if god doesnt exist, explain how this box holds so many cats.
his ability to manipulate the forces of nature could be considered "magic"

also, if god doesnt exist, explain how this box holds so many cats.


#477 to #353 - sarahbrowniez (11/14/2012) [-]
cats.. how do they work
cats.. how do they work
User avatar #350 to #345 - phuckinthingsucks (11/14/2012) [-]
Well I'd say yes but this is fj after all
User avatar #405 to #331 - appleboom (11/14/2012) [-]
Say the God of the Bible is real. Why would he set up a system and then circumvent it when he feels like it? It seems much more plausible that someone with such power, who can also foresee events, would tweak the system in such a way that these things happen exactly when he wants them too.
User avatar #599 to #331 - coldactill (11/14/2012) [-]
To a degree, yes, it's possible. From a Christian's perspective, God is an omnipotent being and is capable of creating and destroying absolutely anything. Therefore, God > Science. A commonly accepted belief of today is that the Biblical creation process was a result of God making evolution and the big bang, and having a 100 billion year process occur up to Adam, when in fact this doesn't make sense. For starters, the Bible accounts that death entered the world when Adam ate of the sinful fruit, which was about 6000 years ago. The evolution process requires death, and therefore, it couldn't work as there was no death before Adam. More importantly, why would God make a billion year process, that isn't symbolic of anything, that he could've done, being the supernatural entity he is, in a single breath? The point I'm trying to make is, when the Bible says, 'And then God made it flood' you can believe any select option of a million ways that it might of happened, but ultimately the truth is that God made it happen, and he did it however he chose to do it.
User avatar #352 to #331 - cullenatorguy (11/14/2012) [-]
Could it be theoretically possible that Krishna uses natural and rational events to achieve his goals?
#348 to #331 - srslyjakecease (11/14/2012) [-]
of course it its, to say otherwise is to spit in the face of science, all the while attempting to use it as a method of disproving something you dislike.

You can believe something does or does not exist, but until it is proven one way or another, you'd either have to be religious, a fool, or perhaps both.

The events coinciding neither prove nor disprove a god, just as existence neither proves nor disproves a god. The shear unmeasurability and untestability of a deity makes it a moot point to argue one way or another, as neither side will EVER give enough proof to the other to persuade them.

User avatar #354 to #348 - redwolfradolf (11/14/2012) [-]
I'd have to say that all of those events happening so close to each other is one hell of a coincidence.
User avatar #552 to #354 - pokemonstheshiz (11/14/2012) [-]
We don't have proof any of that actually happened, that is a scientific theory proposed to explain those events in the Bible making the assumption they happened. Save for a time machine, we won't be able to prove events happened or how they happened. History is not a science, history is literature written by the victor.
User avatar #660 to #552 - redwolfradolf (11/14/2012) [-]
Maybe this particular event did or didn't happen, but did you know that if you go to the city of Jericho today, you'll find it's walls buried under thirty feet of earth.
Archeologists say that there was evidence of a massive collapse.
User avatar #664 to #660 - pokemonstheshiz (11/14/2012) [-]
I was not aware of that. There are however events in every religion attributed to higher powers or epic stories that can be explained by scientific phenomenon (for the most part).

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sdYlRBISmU
One example.
User avatar #672 to #664 - redwolfradolf (11/14/2012) [-]
And again we return to my original point.
#370 to #354 - srslyjakecease (11/14/2012) [-]
so is life, and the mere existence of the universe.     
   
I dont disagree with you, i'm just saying this will never swing the religion argument one way or another.   
The odds of this happening as told above are 1 in a million, if even that.   
   
Read my lower post, and you'll see another theory as to the cause of the plagues; all most all of which domino off of a volcanic eruption.
so is life, and the mere existence of the universe.

I dont disagree with you, i'm just saying this will never swing the religion argument one way or another.
The odds of this happening as told above are 1 in a million, if even that.

Read my lower post, and you'll see another theory as to the cause of the plagues; all most all of which domino off of a volcanic eruption.
User avatar #374 to #370 - redwolfradolf (11/14/2012) [-]
I'm really to tired to discuss this, but let's just summarize by saying that there are very few people who actually take a purely literalist view of the genisis story.
User avatar #376 to #374 - srslyjakecease (11/14/2012) [-]
I dont see how genesis plays into this, seeing as we were discussing Exodus, but come to the southeastern United States, and ill introduce you to whole organizations of them. (they annoy the piss out of me...)
User avatar #378 to #376 - redwolfradolf (11/14/2012) [-]
1. I live in the southeastern united states

2. sorry, I thought you were talking about creation in that last comment.
#384 to #378 - srslyjakecease (11/14/2012) [-]
quite all right, i can understand the confusion given my comment on existence, but i was just stating them as other improbable things.   
   
and on another, only semi-related note,  TENNESSEE FTW.
quite all right, i can understand the confusion given my comment on existence, but i was just stating them as other improbable things.

and on another, only semi-related note, TENNESSEE FTW.
User avatar #387 to #384 - redwolfradolf (11/14/2012) [-]
I'm actually from GA, but nice to meet you all the same
#390 to #387 - srslyjakecease (11/14/2012) [-]
you too lol.

always somewhat satisfying to meet another southerner on the internet
User avatar #434 to #390 - redwolfradolf (11/14/2012) [-]
I suppose it is....
#311 - telmarine (11/14/2012) [-]
are we really starting these posts again?
are we really starting these posts again?
User avatar #47 - needsmohoes (11/14/2012) [-]
I'm glad someone was able to travel back in time and see this. Now we can rest easy
#62 - John Cena (11/14/2012) [-]
Because "God" (if you believe in a god) couldnt have possibly used scientific events as plagues...
#81 to #62 - mkaymkay (11/14/2012) [-]
I always try to explain to people that I believe that God does what he does inside the laws of our world. So I do believe in evolution and the big bang and all that stuff but also that God made that happen. Stuff wouldn't just start existing out of nowhere, some higher power had to of started existence. Nobody ever gets it...
#91 to #81 - John Cena (11/14/2012) [-]
I get it. It's kinda like the world is a program, and the program behaves predictably and in a scientifically discernible manner, but that God is the programmer.
#174 to #91 - johnshepherd (11/14/2012) [-]
Not only is God a programmer, He's a programmer with remarkable few glitches, the douchebag glitch excepted, He's still working on a patch for that one.
User avatar #360 to #174 - sterlingarcher (11/14/2012) [-]
I Lol'd
#96 to #91 - mkaymkay (11/14/2012) [-]
Yup.
#631 - takesomemorewater (11/14/2012) [-]
****		 you and your description. Get a job instead of that 			****		...
**** you and your description. Get a job instead of that **** ...
#584 - ludislavonac (11/14/2012) [-]
To hell with your science, it was aliens of course
User avatar #436 - usmcrecon (11/14/2012) [-]
Ten scientific theories**
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