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#8 - amnesiacpatient (10/30/2012) [-]
Or discover prothean technology...
#100 to #8 - vampireinarm (10/30/2012) [-]
promethean technoloy looks like a better target to me.
promethean technoloy looks like a better target to me.
#121 to #8 - iliketires (10/30/2012) [-]
I would be genuinely happy if the universe was really the ME universe. (Minus the Reaper Cycle.)
I would be genuinely happy if the universe was really the ME universe. (Minus the Reaper Cycle.)
User avatar #191 to #121 - zallaz (10/31/2012) [-]
Well, what if our universe is the ME universe, and we don't know it because it's still only 2012?
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#34 - fancyshark (10/30/2012) [-]
Study aerospace engineering for a year...find out i am too tall to fit in astronaut suit.
Study aerospace engineering for a year...find out i am too tall to fit in astronaut suit.
User avatar #41 to #34 - unhappyspanners (10/30/2012) [-]
How tall are you?
#86 to #41 - Rascal (10/30/2012) [-]
Too tall.
User avatar #183 to #41 - fancyshark (10/30/2012) [-]
6' 5", I believe the cap is 6' 2"
#113 to #34 - julpiter (10/30/2012) [-]
here have this(somewhat related)
here have this(somewhat related)
#70 - stallwallwriter (10/30/2012) [-]
>There are people who are working on if not faster than light travel, then at least travel many times faster than ever possible with rockets - search Dr. Harold White, warp drive.
>There is an international, multidisciplinary initiative to put together resources for attempts at interstellar travel - search the hundred year starship initiative.
>we managed to send people to the moon with less computing power than a modern graphic calculator, and, as a professor of mine noted today, before we even figured out it was a good idea to put wheels on handluggage. We were just that damn determined.

It won't happen soon, and it won't happen easily, but don't give up hope.
#161 to #70 - CactusFantastico (10/30/2012) [-]
I never knew people were actually working on these things today. Thank you so much for showing me this.

now i know what I'll do with my degree in electronics engineering when I'm done.

Pic related, this is the first man I suggest we send to another system
#73 to #70 - tammus (10/30/2012) [-]
this guy is in the way still
#77 to #73 - stallwallwriter (10/30/2012) [-]
No no, I'm pretty sure we could fly around God, space is three dimensional.
User avatar #82 to #77 - icefried (10/30/2012) [-]
What if he Monty Pythons us with the leg..
User avatar #110 to #77 - Mahazama (10/30/2012) [-]
User avatar #116 to #96 - shallneverrepost (10/30/2012) [-]
Captain's log.........

Still won't flush!
#134 to #96 - condormcninja (10/30/2012) [-]
Log Lady's Log
#1 - atrocitustheking (10/29/2012) [-]
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Grr, I know right? People put so much ******* energy into denying science that they don't realize where it could take us. GODOMMIT I WANT MY HAREM OF GREEN ALIEN STAR TREK GREEN BABES.
User avatar #20 to #1 - lube (10/30/2012) [-]
well said mate
User avatar #21 to #20 - atrocitustheking (10/30/2012) [-]
Thanks. It's rather encouraging to see that there are so many here on FJ and on 4chan who agree with me. Perhaps it just needs to be our generation's "thing". First was ww2, then civil rights, then the moon, what shall our legacy be? I say it should be casting our sails to the solar winds and soaring across the ether, perhaps to finally shake the hand/tentacle/whatever of our fellow sapient brethren, all adrift in the ocean of the void, marooned together until we row to each other's little spit of rock.
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#26 to #22 - heartlessrobot (10/30/2012) [-]
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Nice username.
User avatar #23 to #22 - atrocitustheking (10/30/2012) [-]
PS, your username made me giggle.
User avatar #2 to #1 - kanatana (10/29/2012) [-]
Calm down, Jim. You'll get your Orion slave girl harem when the rest of us do.
#3 to #2 - atrocitustheking (10/29/2012) [-]
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Hehehe. But srsly... I want to see the stars, and the TARDIS seems to be taking its sweet time in showing up at my doorstep.
User avatar #4 to #3 - kanatana (10/29/2012) [-]
Ugh. You know what really sucks? We live in the most perfect era in which we KNOW that space travel is possible, faster-than-light technology is being worked on, and we've left behind most of the worst things of the past, but we're JUST NOT THERE YET.

I imagine this is what it feels like to die about fifty feet from the summit of Everest.
#5 to #4 - atrocitustheking (10/29/2012) [-]
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Preaching to the choir. We can't even get people to accept evolution or global warming, and then THEY ******* CUT NASA. God dammit, when the hell did we give up on the future? When did we stop dreaming of tomorrow?
User avatar #6 to #5 - kanatana (10/29/2012) [-]
You wanna know what? We've got civilians going to outer space, into low-to-middle Earth orbit, and delivering supplies to the space stations. Give us just one hundred years, and we'll be out in space. You've seen Cowboy Bebop? That'll be reality inside two hundred years, easy.
User avatar #49 to #6 - dingojohn (10/30/2012) [-]
Imma squeeze into the conversation here real quickly: I never watched Cowboy Bebop, but I really, really want to watch it! Where should I start? As far as I understand, there's a couple of animes, a couple of feature films and some mangas.. Where do I begin ?
User avatar #7 to #6 - atrocitustheking (10/30/2012) [-]
Really, I doubt it will even take that long.
#158 to #5 - Rascal (10/30/2012) [-]
If we get past what should be easily-negligible social issues, then science and technology would accelerate much faster and bring us into an age of well-being of all kinds. I want to be alive during a major Golden Age for humanity, but instead right now we're stuck in this economic and political turmoil. But science goes on none-the-less, so we must hope and fight for brighter times.
User avatar #163 to #158 - atrocitustheking (10/30/2012) [-]
HEAR HEAR! Victory begins at home, so practice kindness and responsibility in your own life.
#101 to #5 - makalza (10/30/2012) [-]
You ask where is dream of star? Its drowned in light. In most towns you cant see stars thanks to all the light of lamps and bilboards etc. I live in town with 200 thousand people in middle of europe and when i look at night sky i can see only a few stars. it made me sad sometimes. But when i go to country i can see so many of them. I can see part of milky way and its wonderful but how many people do that? As majority of people live in towns where they dont see stars they dont care about them, and i think that is the problem. People dont care about it so why they leader should? Another problem i see is that when i was yonger i read a lot scifi books and i dream and imagine those places..but today? we have game with amazing graphic that can show us exploding stars and world we never imagine. so instead of imagine those places we can just look at our screen and by done with it. What i mean is that when you imagine something it last in your memory longer than when you just look at your screan and go doing something else.

Sorry for long text and bad english iam not a native speaker.
User avatar #105 to #101 - atrocitustheking (10/30/2012) [-]
It's fine, I understood you. Yeah, I guess I'm lucky in that regard. I do live out in the country, so there's always a beautiful display right above my head, bright shining gemstones scattered upon velvet black.

Yes, imagination is amazing, but to experience these things for ourselves... the Universe is far more amazing than any of us can conjure.

There are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in your philosophies.
User avatar #29 to #4 - bobebob (10/30/2012) [-]
Even if we did travel at the speed of light it would still take us over 5 years to get to alpha centauri and then another 50 years to reach the next solar system from there, space is just too big for travel to be feasibly possible without using impossible sciences like hyperspace travel.
User avatar #16 to #4 - semisane (10/30/2012) [-]
What do you mean faster-than-light technology is being worked on? Pretty much all of modern physics is based on faster-than-light travel being impossible.
User avatar #88 to #16 - kanatana (10/30/2012) [-]
Saw a recent sourcefed video that stated that since scientists and physicists had theoretically created the warp drive... Now they just need the tech.
User avatar #63 to #16 - jingleforth (10/30/2012) [-]
Hey buddy, ever heard of warp drive?
#9 to #3 - makalza (10/30/2012) [-]
This picture is glorious. It kinda remind me of the Warhammer 40K atmosphere. Here take this in return
User avatar #79 to #9 - duudegladiator (10/30/2012) [-]
That tentacle thing, thats a Big ass Tyranid. That **** makes Godzilla look like a tick.
User avatar #120 to #79 - atrocitustheking (10/30/2012) [-]
It's their spaceships. Is it any wonder they're called Leviathans?
User avatar #10 to #9 - atrocitustheking (10/30/2012) [-]
That picture is glorious, glad you liked it.
#11 to #10 - makalza (10/30/2012) [-]
Yeah sorry about that typo.
Yeah sorry about that typo.
User avatar #12 to #11 - atrocitustheking (10/30/2012) [-]
What? No, I was just saying the picture you gave me was also glorious.
#13 to #12 - makalza (10/30/2012) [-]
Oh nevermind i was on funnyjunk for too long. Here is a gift for you.
User avatar #91 to #3 - matthewlol (10/30/2012) [-]
I want to see the stars aswell but I disagree with your picture, it paints a parasitic life with no respect for creation whatsoever
User avatar #94 to #91 - atrocitustheking (10/30/2012) [-]
Oh I totally agree, had I written this, it'd be worded or said a little differently.
User avatar #95 to #94 - matthewlol (10/30/2012) [-]
if we had the ability to speak with nature like the natives in avatar we wouldn't be in this material mess of a world -.-
User avatar #98 to #95 - atrocitustheking (10/30/2012) [-]
We don't need to speak to the trees to know that perhaps we're overdoing it on consumption of resources. I think it's going to be our generation's big challenge, since none of our elders seem keen on doing these solutions, many of which have been around for decades, we're going to have to step up to the plate and hammer out a better world on our own.
User avatar #102 to #99 - atrocitustheking (10/30/2012) [-]
So many of us are convinced it's the end. If we work our asses off, it will be. The end of a gimme gimme world, the end of mindless consumerism, the end of corporate oligarchy and apathy in face of the poor.
#106 to #102 - matthewlol (10/30/2012) [-]
I love you :D   
People that think like that are very rare.. I really like that I've had the privilege to read some wisdom.. I feel exactly the same :D   
It is time we wake up!
I love you :D
People that think like that are very rare.. I really like that I've had the privilege to read some wisdom.. I feel exactly the same :D

It is time we wake up!
User avatar #119 to #106 - atrocitustheking (10/30/2012) [-]
Thanks. It isn't easy, I have to fight my own impulses of "want-want-want" all the time. It helps to remember: "Who made this, how did it get made, why is it so cheap" and especially: "do I really need it?".

They can call me hippy for shopping at a health food store or recycling, but I like knowing what I'm putting into my body and garbage often seeps into groundwater.

If you are what you eat, I'd rather not eat junk, you know?
User avatar #171 to #119 - matthewlol (10/30/2012) [-]
excatly, I know what you mean, especially fighting the impulses.
People will judge, people will point and laugh anything that different from the mainstream but at the end of the day you are the one who is happy because you know you're becoming a better person,both physically and mentally.
I often read posts about metaphysics(?) such as about Ego (that little green monster inside each and ever one of us) or Fear. That's how I started to practice meditation.
It feels good to finally see what drives one into Light and Dark.

I hope you get what I'm trying to say :P
User avatar #188 to #171 - atrocitustheking (10/31/2012) [-]
Are you thinking of Id, as in Id/Ego/Superego as posited by Sigmund Freud?
User avatar #189 to #188 - matthewlol (10/31/2012) [-]
Yes... and no, it's hard to explain
User avatar #190 to #189 - atrocitustheking (10/31/2012) [-]
Eh, don't worry about it. Language is a varied and morphic thing. Worry not.
#18 - mattdoggy (10/30/2012) [-]
you know it's true....
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#75 to #30 - Thevaultboy (10/30/2012) [-]
MFW "tranches."
MFW "tranches."
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#71 - creepypastaupload (10/30/2012) [-]
Of course, somebody posted that born to early, and born to late image.
But WE lie within a "zone" as you could call it. A transition; Everyone viewing this content is privileged to live in it. We may not have been able to fight off pirates with our bare hands, or **** alien space chicks. But dammit, we'll see the beginning of a great civilization transformation.

The unfortunate thing is, this zone is dangerous. We could either nuke ourselves and a civilization will look at our dead planet. OR we could make it, and do some really amazing things.
#125 to #50 - standingbehindyou (10/30/2012) [-]
Space Hitler? There's no space jews, therefore his existence is pointless...

But zombie Hitler, THAT's a whole other story...
User avatar #148 - snaresinger (10/30/2012) [-]
Why the hell are people using this as an excuse to comment with their views of how best to go about purifying the human race? For ****** sake, stop! Stop talking about what groups of people we need to eliminate! Stop talking about how we all need to instate a new world order! That's not the point of this at all! The point is that we COULD do amazing things if we could all learn to work together WITHOUT a system of control. The problem, though, and the entire reason we're dicks is because we CAN'T work together without a system, and every human effort to forcefully unite people has ended in genocide. The content isn't saying "We should cleanse the human race," the comic is saying "How cool would it be if humans could learn to learn to act nobly of their own accord?" So instead of sharing some power fantasy about gathering humans together like a flock of animals, why don't you just draw your own inspiration from this, and strive to act like the kind of person that would make a stranger proud to be your fellow human.

Alright, I'm off the soapbox. Have a good day, everyone.
#193 to #148 - atrocitustheking (11/01/2012) [-]
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Thank you, I didn't know how to respond to such comments below, but I think you hit the metaphorical nail on the head. Bravo, monsieur.
User avatar #194 to #193 - snaresinger (11/01/2012) [-]
:D Finally some recognition for trying to be a nice person. I love you.
User avatar #195 to #194 - atrocitustheking (11/01/2012) [-]
Indeed, so often we're told that being nice is naive, or a foolish endeavour, or that we need more "tough love". Please, we're addicted to punitive measures and we ruthlessly punish failure, I think what we all need is a little forgiveness.

It often makes me gag how often those calling for "tough love" are Christians. Oh, you fools, do you not read your own books?
User avatar #196 to #195 - snaresinger (11/01/2012) [-]
Some do. I come from a Christian family, and although I no longer place any faith in a god, I still like some of the philosophy. The problem is that most Christians still like to act under Abrahamic attitudes (misogyny, blind obedience, etc.) instead of true Christian ideals (as in, the words of Christ: love, acceptance, humility, gentle guidance, good deeds, etc.).
User avatar #197 to #196 - atrocitustheking (11/01/2012) [-]
Absolutely, often the more I learn about Jesus, the less I like "Christians". To hear these politicians, and pundits talk about "faith". Pah, they don't act like they know Him, do they? Spreading hate, spitting on the poor.

"If you think Jesus ever had a good word for war, torture, racism, police brutality, or refusing water to dying migrants, then you might as well believe bunnies lay coloured eggs." - Bill Maher
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User avatar #31 to #17 - bitchplzzz (10/30/2012) [-]
United Nations Space Corporations?
#32 to #31 - pratix (10/30/2012) [-]

From Halo.
User avatar #68 to #17 - commanderhippie (10/30/2012) [-]
I just hope we don't run into the Covenant before a certain Spartan dons his MJOLNIR...
#83 - quickstrike (10/30/2012) [-]
Actually we couldn't yet. We will, just don't have the technology for it yet. On future timeline it says that by the year 4000, we'll have visited a 1000 light year radial distance of the Milky Way. Not bad, but keep in mind that the Milky Way is 100,000 light years long. Also keep in mind there are TRILLIONS of galaxies.
#85 to #83 - mericafuckyeah (10/30/2012) [-]
Correct me if im wrong but is that not based off of our current technology?
Personally I'm holding out hope for some sort of Faster than Light travel mechanism, because lets be serious without something like that we'll get nowhere significant. I know they made recent advances, and such a device certainly seems possible.
Article - www.gizmag.com/warp-drive-bubble-nasa-interstellar/24392/
#107 to #85 - quickstrike (10/30/2012) [-]
interesting read
User avatar #92 to #85 - haloforlife (10/30/2012) [-]
Yeah but to be honest it will be like the car, hardly anyone will have them for like 50 years plus it has to be tested to make sure it's 100% safe and set backs will occur so that's probably another 50 years and most likely you and i will be dead unless they find a way to reverse/stop ageing.
#108 to #92 - quickstrike (10/30/2012) [-]
yeah, dying sucks.
User avatar #109 to #108 - haloforlife (10/30/2012) [-]
That it does, that it does.
#69 - chrisvsworld (10/30/2012) [-]
Whoa OP is God and want to travel the galaxy with me....
Whoa OP is God and want to travel the galaxy with me....
User avatar #14 - hocki (10/30/2012) [-]
The worldwide military budget is 2.1 trillion dollars. The Worldwide spacebudget is 58 million dollars. Why?
User avatar #15 to #14 - atrocitustheking (10/30/2012) [-]
Because apparently we'd rather fight over the dirt than conquer the stars themselves. Pitiful.
#24 to #14 - evilmonkeypl (10/30/2012) [-]
I'd imagine because you don't exactly want to wake up to the sound of bombers flying over your home dropping explosives all over the place. It's a deterrent.

Sure. it'd be nice to see what's out there though...
#25 - infinitereaper (10/30/2012) [-]
I don't think most people truly understand how difficult and impossible space travel is at this point and time.
User avatar #36 to #25 - arsyro (10/30/2012) [-]
train people. build rocket. send people to space. whats so hard man?

JK i know this **** is tough
#104 - ghancc (10/30/2012) [-]
**ghancc rolled a random image posted in comment #84091 at Pokemon ** if we did we would finally be able to explore the world of this!
**ghancc rolled a random image posted in comment #84091 at Pokemon ** if we did we would finally be able to explore the world of this!
#128 - moustachefingers (10/30/2012) [-]
Explore galaxies? How quaint.
User avatar #115 - tacolber (10/30/2012) [-]
What's so great about galaxy stuff anyway?
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User avatar #180 to #117 - tacolber (10/30/2012) [-]
Perhaps you're right, my ignorance is obviously keeping me from the best parties.
User avatar #52 - bobodevetjedan (10/30/2012) [-]
well what's stopping us? besides huge distances and the speed of light
User avatar #114 - Mahazama (10/30/2012) [-]
1. Unite the world (if necessary, by force.)
2. Make atheism the official world creed.
3. Abolish pop culture and morph society into one that values intelligence, intuition, ingenuity, not one that watches Jersey Shore or listens to Nicki Minaj.
4. Become a successful intergalactic race. (BECAUSE IF WE DON'T, SOME OTHER INTELLIGENT BEING IS EVENTUALLY GOING TO WIPE US OUT/ TURN US INTO SLAVES. Natural selection is not done running its course, we are one of many competing organisms in a proverbial universal ecosystem.
User avatar #122 to #114 - mrwightproductions (10/30/2012) [-]
An idea. Threaten the world with an army (doesnt matter if you winor lose) after calling upon and angering intelligent life elsewhere in galaxy so they come attack. Unite the planet against yourself so they can fend off the aliens and have to advance in science to be able to fend them off.
User avatar #123 to #122 - Mahazama (10/30/2012) [-]
It'd be nice if we united before an alien invasion.
User avatar #130 to #123 - mrwightproductions (10/30/2012) [-]
I assume that if we cant find a planet within one lightyear with the current technology,uless they are so far advanced that they can move faster than light, we have time. If they can move faster than light, they would probably kick our ass no matter how long we have to advance our technology.
User avatar #132 to #130 - mrwightproductions (10/30/2012) [-]
Planet with intelligent life*
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User avatar #129 to #127 - Mahazama (10/30/2012) [-]
tell me why not? How else are we supposed to survive? Are you denying that there's other intelligent beings out there, and that they might be hostile?
User avatar #141 to #129 - highfocus (10/30/2012) [-]
The average human isn't intelligent, that means it isn't possible for the average human to participate at any intergalactic interaction

Ways to solve this
->Sort out (isn't realistic)
-> The average human waits for the 0,X% to do something remarkable (standart)

So, don't write stuff to "change" the world and how to become xy

We simply can't do **** about it , then study and do something conducive
User avatar #153 to #141 - Mahazama (10/30/2012) [-]
That's why everyone should take 100% comprehensive aptitude tests that will put the most intelligent of our kind in charge. If you're not smart enough to be with the best, but not unintelligent enough to be considered retarded and placed under care, then sucks for you, you become part of the labor force.
#157 to #153 - highfocus (10/30/2012) [-]
you have no clue bro
you have no clue bro
User avatar #182 to #157 - Mahazama (10/30/2012) [-]
I have no clue about what?
#133 to #114 - ilikepatatas (10/30/2012) [-]
5.- kill justin bieber
6.- make an army and destroy everything related to disney
#142 to #133 - Rascal (10/30/2012) [-]
but no.6 would include the avengers movie as well.....
#147 to #142 - ilikepatatas (10/30/2012) [-]
Some times , people has to do big sacrifices for the good of the loved ones, i mean VERY MOF**KING BIG ONES
User avatar #131 to #114 - jingleforth (10/30/2012) [-]
I disagree on the Atheism one.
I personally feel the biggest belief should be Apatheism Agnosticism.

Which means: I don't know (Agnosticism) and I don't care (Apatheism)
#136 to #131 - knerten (10/30/2012) [-]
why shouldn't we care?
User avatar #138 to #136 - jingleforth (10/30/2012) [-]
Because, we've got much more important things to worry about than a deity whose existence isn't provable to us.
#173 to #138 - knerten (10/30/2012) [-]
why not analyze it and bring as much proof of our existence as possible, making it a science? Which means the only thing we can agree on meanwhile is that we can't know, but still TRYING to prove it.
User avatar #174 to #173 - jingleforth (10/30/2012) [-]
Here's the problem, we don't know how.

It is NOT worth the effort in current times to look for something that may be so complex, it would fry our minds with the weirdness.
#177 to #174 - knerten (10/30/2012) [-]
how do you know if you won't even try? Why isn't it worth it? How do you know it will fry our minds? Are you afraid of knowledge?

I think it is interesting as hell and would never want us to stay the same in technology. Think about what would have happened if we did so while we were cavemen.
User avatar #184 to #177 - jingleforth (10/30/2012) [-]
"Afraid of knowlegde" lolno.

You don't realize, God is a walking paradox. I'm more keen on other things before we investigate a being that defies logic. But then again, there is quantum physics
User avatar #152 to #138 - snaresinger (10/30/2012) [-]
I do like that mindset, but two things. One, I think that'd be Apathetic Agnosticism. And two, what about the off chance that there are supernatural beings that control us? I'd say it'd be important to identify the correct ones to please. My frame of mind? I don't put any faith in religion, but it never hurts to find out which religion came first and pay some respects to it, because if the **** hits the fan and there is a god, you'll want to obey it. Can't hurt as long as you're not a hateful radical, right?
User avatar #159 to #152 - Mahazama (10/30/2012) [-]
I think God will understand if we get tired of him, and we place our own kind above him. That's what any reasonable parent would do. And just the fact that you would appeal to a god just to "play it safe" implies that you are a person motivated by fear.
User avatar #164 to #159 - snaresinger (10/30/2012) [-]
No, it implies that I'm a person motivated by preparation for any eventuality. You seem to be a person motivated by jumping to conclusions. And since when does any god need to be reasonable? That god might be a total asshole, and if he exists, he probably is. But if he does exist, I'd say it's pretty prudent to get on his good side.
User avatar #167 to #164 - Mahazama (10/30/2012) [-]
If you were a person motivated by preparation, you would realize that we're not the only ones out there, and that we're going to need to reach some sort of agreement so we can move on from this whole "religion" chapter of humanity. If there is a god, no amount of deliberation is going to reveal his true nature, so we should just forget about him and move on. Because if we don't, something will come along and wipe us out while we're busy fighting wars over something we don't understand.
User avatar #169 to #167 - snaresinger (10/30/2012) [-]
You seem to have a poor understanding of quantum physics, the scale of the universe and the universal speed limit. You also seem to be a person motivated by jumping into matters about which you know little, and making wild assumptions. And also, I don't know why you're saying this to me. I never said I disagreed with you. Go ahead and actually read what I said, noting that all I ever said was that it doesn't hurt to go to church once in a while. Now does that take away from scientific advancement? No, it does not. However, jumping into issues without finding out what's going on is the kind of attitude that does hurt scientific advancement.
User avatar #172 to #169 - Mahazama (10/30/2012) [-]
We don't know for sure if superluminal travel is possible, this century alone has given us a plethora of discoveries that have defined and redefined what we know about the universe. On the slight chance that FTL travel is possible, and there's aggressive intelligent beings out there, I don't want to get caught sitting on my ass. There's nothing necessarily wrong with religion itself, it's all the disagreement that goes with it. It opposes progress.

If we do unify the world, it's going to need some sort of official creed.
What do you think that creed should be?
User avatar #175 to #172 - snaresinger (10/30/2012) [-]
If there was a creed, it should be exactly what you said. Like I said, I completely agree with your actual dogma. I just don't think chopping out religion entirely is a quite prudent decision, and speaking historically, forceful unification of society should be off the table, since it has yet invariably ended badly.
User avatar #178 to #175 - Mahazama (10/30/2012) [-]
I would have us limit religion for the sake of peace. If theism weren't in constant disagreement with itself, it would be a beautiful thing to have. For the sake of agreement and progress, religion should have absolutely no place in running the world. Lots of families in the modern world can keep old traditions secondary, why can't we do the same with religion? It should be referenced as rarely as you need a second tongue in the U.S. (you practically don't.)
User avatar #179 to #178 - snaresinger (10/30/2012) [-]
If we're just going to keep religion for the philosophical purposes, why not just do away with it completely and just follow pure philosophy? The only reason I see to hold religion instead of a purely beautiful philosophy is the potential that there are supernatural creatures (and by supernatural, I mean extradimensional, or just creatures whose nature is beyond our comprehension). For that reason, I think one should find a philosophy which works for oneself, but go to church, or as I like to call it, "play the theistic lottery."
User avatar #156 to #152 - jingleforth (10/30/2012) [-]
Yes, that's another name for it.
And second, the existence of a deity is almost unknowable. I'm sure it couldn't hurt to go a philosophical pondering of those wonders, but as is. We've got a LOT more to work on. Maybe when we're free to roam space and basically don't need to advance further, we can do that then.
User avatar #168 to #156 - Mahazama (10/30/2012) [-]
Exactly! If there is a god, he is most likely too complex to understand at our current stage of development. I think he'll forgive us if we just forget about him for a while, and advance ourselves instead.
User avatar #176 to #168 - snaresinger (10/30/2012) [-]
You seem very intelligent, as your goals are indeed the most rational path for humans. I just think you're putting too much faith in a god not to be an asshole- if one exists, he almost certainly sucks. Let's say there are two possible realities-one in which there is no god, and one in which there is a god, he is a dick, and he will send you to hell (a place where all living achievements are moot) if you don't respect him. Atheism only keeps you safe 50% of the time, whereas the correct religion keeps you safe 100% of the time. In reality, there are an infinite amount of possible universes, all with different theistic possibilities, but religion just keeps you safer a higher amount of the time.

That said, I'm no longer religious- I just think it doesn't hurt to go to church, since most people don't do anything productive with their Sundays anyways, and a peaceful church with a good philosophical system is better than sitting on our asses getting rid of Saturday night's hangover.
User avatar #181 to #176 - Mahazama (10/30/2012) [-]
If I do get sent to hell, I want him to ******* know I got sent there because I helped my fellow man, not because I spun the barrel and chose the wrong religion.

And as you say, sure, having dudes at mass on sunday beats them sitting around hungover from yesterday night. But do you what's more productive than letting a priest do the thinking for you? Opening a physics book, engaging in intelligent arguments, working out, volunteering at your local hospital. All kinds of self-improving actions. Having a priest think for you is no different from having the government think for you in a fascist society. My world government wouldn't think for you, it would throw you raw knowledge and give you a chance to lead if you are intelligent enough.
User avatar #185 to #181 - snaresinger (10/31/2012) [-]
I must concede. I do like your attitude. Doing what you believe is good, and damn an uncaring god that thinks you're wrong.
User avatar #160 to #156 - snaresinger (10/30/2012) [-]
I'm not saying we should explore the existence of a god. I'm just saying, it doesn't hurt to go to church, as long as that church stresses values that we can all agree are good (philanthropy, integrity, acceptance, humility, etc.)
#144 to #138 - jimboismynameo (10/30/2012) [-]
^all my this
10000 internets to you sir

User avatar #139 to #114 - snaresinger (10/30/2012) [-]
Right. Forcefully purifying the human race. Totally doesn't sound like Hitler (the biggest dick of them all).
User avatar #140 to #139 - Mahazama (10/30/2012) [-]
At what point did I mention genocide?
Oh, wait... that's right.. I ******* didn't?
I said Atheism will become the official world creed, I never said we should hunt down and kill theists.
User avatar #149 to #140 - snaresinger (10/30/2012) [-]
Um... When did I ever mention genocide? I specifically said what I was talking about, and it wasn't genocide. Read it again.
User avatar #151 to #149 - Mahazama (10/30/2012) [-]
That's how Hitler did his "purification" what i'm talking about is simply a change of priorities.
User avatar #155 to #151 - snaresinger (10/30/2012) [-]
I'm not referring to his method of forced purification, I'm talking about the moral ramifications of the very concept.
User avatar #165 to #155 - Mahazama (10/30/2012) [-]
How is making our society abhor mindless pop culture immoral? Before Hitler started declaring war on everybody and committing genocide, people around the world admired Hitler for bringing his country out of the depression and giving everyone productive jobs. Wanna know how he did that? He placed emphasis on working for your country.
User avatar #166 to #165 - snaresinger (10/30/2012) [-]
You are still ignoring what I am saying. The concepts you are stressing are quite admirable. The way you want to stress them to everyone ("by force") is questionable.
User avatar #170 to #166 - Mahazama (10/30/2012) [-]
By force if necesarry. Too many other governments would oppose peaceful unification.
#146 to #114 - Rascal (10/30/2012) [-]
Banning religion sounds allot like what the Bible said would happen.
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