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Fall of Society

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User avatar #3 - Vandeekree (10/29/2012) [-]
I''m not going to lie. That's terrifying.
User avatar #13 - durkadurka (10/30/2012) [-]
The scary thing is that we're closer to either of those futures now than when they were written.
#34 - manymanymangoes (10/30/2012) [-]
I read Nineteen Eight-four, and it was ******* great
the guy banged a girl he didn't want to

then he was tortured

I liked it.
User avatar #40 - thumtac (10/30/2012) [-]
It's not that huxley is right and orwell is wrong. It's that Brave New World's characteristics are more closely observed in free media countries (USA, UK) while 1984 represents what Nazi Germany and Stalinist Soviet Union were and what North Korea is now.

What isn't mentioned and I think is the most important principles of the two books is that choice is completely removed from the two worlds. Ignorance is strength. In 1984 the ministry of truth controls everything you know and knowing anything that disagrees with the ministry of truth is wrong. In Brave New World you are indoctrinated from Birth with all your beliefs and feelings so you inherently have no choice as to what you like or dislike.

For more legendary books on the subject of dystopia, see We by Yevgeny Zamyatin and A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess
User avatar #49 to #40 - theplatyhelminth (10/31/2012) [-]
Don't forget Fahrenheit 451! Classic!
User avatar #1 - syis (10/29/2012) [-]
I live in China.
I guess both depict everyday's life, here.
#42 - infernoburrito (10/30/2012) [-]
Two incredible novels. If you haven't read both, I highly recommend it.
#24 - mrknownothing (10/30/2012) [-]
Both books are good reads. The words "Orgy Porgy" still got a chuckle though
User avatar #17 - imagnetsux (10/30/2012) [-]
i'd rather die in a sea of sick hedonistic pleasure than be shot by a modern-day nazi stormtrooper.
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User avatar #19 - bakonforall (10/30/2012) [-]
I dont understand. explain how too much pleasure will could lead to my downfall?
#26 to #19 - anon (10/30/2012) [-]
Ever heard of the Fall of Rome?
User avatar #28 to #26 - bakonforall (10/30/2012) [-]
are you refering to a book, a specific source, or the actual historical period?
#21 to #19 - anon (10/30/2012) [-]
Let me put it this way. Out there right now, in the vast span of the multiverse there are hundreds of yous in other universes banging Emma Watson. And what are you doing in this universe? You're sitting on your ass and reading funny junk. Get your **** together man.
User avatar #22 to #21 - bakonforall (10/30/2012) [-]
I can hardly consider being on funnyjunk to be a downfall. true, somewhere another version of myself is banging Emma Watson, but I know that there are an almost infinite number of universes where i am on funnyjunk. In this one, and (I'd like to believe most of the others) I am content if not happy to be in the situation that i am in.
User avatar #31 to #19 - SonofChuck (10/30/2012) [-]
The idea is that the "pleasures" will keep us docile and controllable.
#32 to #19 - jakatackka (10/30/2012) [-]
By having too much pleasure, the rest of your life (which is mostly non-pleasurable) becomes undesirable. Subjects like the economy, politics, and just generally thinking for yourself become too difficult. In addition, you become desensitized to the world around you, so as the rest of the world suffers, you blindly enjoy your orgy of passivity and entertainment.
User avatar #35 to #32 - bakonforall (10/30/2012) [-]
OOOHHH sir you make sense. thank you.
User avatar #45 - arsenymous (10/30/2012) [-]
Yes i realize there is a problem, yes i realize that i may be able to do something about it, and yes I realize that others do not give a **** about anything... but even if i could do something i don't even know what i would do.
User avatar #47 to #45 - larryj (10/30/2012) [-]
The first step to conquering a problem is admitting that there is one.

Really just thinking for yourself and not letting anybody else decide what you think or believe can go a long way.
User avatar #37 - toplica (10/30/2012) [-]
**** neil postman, both men were right not just one.

People are preoccupied with meaningless (or nearly meaningless) fluff in the world produced by people that want to make money the easiest way possible. theres endless censorship and coverup of the things that matter (I also allow myself to be distracted too)
User avatar #4 - happyhour (10/29/2012) [-]
Little confused. Is it saying that Orwell is wrong, because he seems to have hit the nail on the head for me
User avatar #5 to #4 - thegamegestapo (10/29/2012) [-]
It appears, after all, they both were
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User avatar #8 to #7 - ahj (10/29/2012) [-]
may I ask why you think that?
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User avatar #10 to #9 - ahj (10/29/2012) [-]
The writing style was intended to reflect the society it documented, and the book came out in 1932, far before the sci-fi dystopian craze.
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#33 to #11 - jakatackka (10/30/2012) [-]
And below me, we have a ******** of arguing.

I read A Brave New World when I was 11, and it really changed my outlook on the world. The writing itself was confusing (partly because it's old, partly because I was 11) but the message it made was very clear and incredibly poignant. I was especially surprised by how relevant it was in today's society, decades after its writing.

So you don't like the book? That's fine by me. Whether or not you like that book doesn't affect me in the slightest. However, the message contained within needs to be at least considered and reflected upon.
User avatar #16 to #11 - mylazy (10/30/2012) [-]
If that is the way you feel, then you probably shouldn't be reading older books. Stick with the more recent ones.
#14 to #11 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (10/30/2012) [-]
Do you take medicine for your stupidity?

I would suggest 7 grams of lead.
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#20 to #15 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (10/30/2012) [-]
No, the reason you hate the book is stupid. It's like saying you dislike queen, and the reason is because it isn't good compared to the music of 2010.
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#29 to #25 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (10/30/2012) [-]
No. Saying new books are better just because they are new is like saying Twilight>The Shining.
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#36 to #30 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (10/30/2012) [-]
Why would you rather read newer books if they weren't better? That doesn't even make any sense.
User avatar #23 to #20 - awesomenessdefined (10/30/2012) [-]
I'm just going to put this out there. Queen was terrible.
#27 to #23 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (10/30/2012) [-]
That's nice dearie. Please tell me more about the progressive music produced solely by mannequin arms that you listen to.
User avatar #43 to #27 - awesomenessdefined (10/30/2012) [-]
I have no diea what you just said
User avatar #48 - xyxoz (10/30/2012) [-]
These would both be valid
...If the majority of the people on this site weren't living in upper class nations with relaxed governments and the RIGHT TO PROTEST.
The fact that you are able to post this proves your point is irreverent.
User avatar #46 - neutralgray (10/30/2012) [-]
I think both are great and have useful applications but I don't like how this comic seems to blow off Orwell's message as "yeah, it's powerful, but not near so applicable." We are creatures of great potential. I will never look at humans in a cynical eye like so many and exclaim "all in vain!" but we do have the potential for evil and destruction in our hearts. Orwell's work didn't create a world where hate existed thus the system of Big Brother worked. It created a world where our hate was directed at something so as to give us a natural reason to huddle closer to our team, our Big Brother, so to speak. Furthermore, pain and pleasure, while separate concepts, can be together. Honestly, whether we like it or not, any feeling we have makes us feel alive. To hate something honestly feels good. As humans we will have things we do not desire shaped by our society and to have that hate directed so blatantly pointed at one thing, to make it okay to despise another people to the point of wanting them all dead, is honestly a pleasure in pleasure's deepest darkest sense.

At least that's my opinion.
User avatar #44 - mkchillin (10/30/2012) [-]
OMFG my last name is McMillen! I've basically never seen anyone with that name, and never spelled that way!
#41 - Krathalos (10/30/2012) [-]
I loved the book 1984.

Picture completely unrelated.
#39 - eiramart (10/30/2012) [-]
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#38 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (10/30/2012) [-]
I still liked 1984 better though. I found the writing style superior.
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