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#5 - redrock (10/19/2012) [-]
Hercules would just be a retarded answer, Zeus was born of two Titans, themselves born of Gaia (the earth) and Uranus (the sky)... so he's the grandson of the Earth and therefore couldn't create it. God has no place in a geography test, and saying the big bang is responsible is looking way too far back in the causal chain.

So, the answer must be...
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#550 to #5 - drfranky (10/20/2012) [-]
I believe in god and I stillI want you to teach my children
I believe in god and I stillI want you to teach my children
#519 to #5 - John Cena (10/20/2012) [-]
Zeus was actually born of Cronus and Rhea, who were titans Just like the other titans who were born of Gaia and Oranous (Uranus Oranos).
Gaia was the earth, Ouranous was the sky or universe and stars ect
#904 to #519 - redrock (10/21/2012) [-]
Excluding specifying the names of the titans, that's exactly what I said

Why are people having trouble with that?
User avatar #23 to #5 - whycanticaps (10/19/2012) [-]
so who made the titans? cus that was who created the earth
#26 to #23 - redrock (10/19/2012) [-]
No, Gaia (the earth) boned Uranus (the sky) and created the titans. Then two of the Titans boned and made Zeus.   
   
 Gaia is said to have come from Chaos, but there isn't a total consensus on whether Chaos was a physical primordial deity or just the name for the transitional state before the creation of the universe and the earth
No, Gaia (the earth) boned Uranus (the sky) and created the titans. Then two of the Titans boned and made Zeus.

Gaia is said to have come from Chaos, but there isn't a total consensus on whether Chaos was a physical primordial deity or just the name for the transitional state before the creation of the universe and the earth
#253 to #26 - superanonymouspers (10/20/2012) [-]
eeeyooooo.

red thumbs here I come
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#905 to #590 - redrock (10/21/2012) [-]
No, I don't. Caelus is the Roman counterpart. Uranus is just another way of saying Ouranos/Oranos
#31 - torkildsen (10/19/2012) [-]
How the hell can a teacher use those options, when there is no proof of them? God is just as correct as Zeus, Hercules and Aliens because none haven been proven or disproven
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User avatar #41 to #35 - nigman (10/19/2012) [-]
God is myth, science is fact based on masses and masses of mutually supporting evidance and impirical data.
#32 to #31 - mattkingg **User deleted account** (10/19/2012) [-]
the big bang can't really be proven either

(this is just to my knowledge i apologize if i am wrong)
wait didn't the big bang create the universe, not the earth?
User avatar #50 to #32 - nigman (10/19/2012) [-]
The big bang is the name given to the event that started the universe. When the universe started from a very small point and exploded out after that.

It did occour, so I guess then yes, it can be proven. The reasons for how we know this is because we can see the rate of expeansion in the universe, so we know that a long time ago everything was much closer together. We can estimate the age of the universe too because of it. There is also a lot of work and knowledge of what the universe was like very shortly (seconds, maybe less) after the big bang.

Does that help explain how the big ban is a proven fact?
#59 to #50 - grahamernazi (10/20/2012) [-]
I'd just like to point out that it's called the Big Bang Theory for a reason.
I'd just like to point out that it's called the Big Bang Theory for a reason.
User avatar #62 to #59 - nigman (10/20/2012) [-]
The reason being the word theory is defined as "a system of ideas intended to explain something".
User avatar #64 to #62 - grahamernazi (10/20/2012) [-]
Sadly I was taught that it was synonymous to "hypothesis". Good to know.
User avatar #67 to #64 - nigman (10/20/2012) [-]
It's not synonymous but it is similar. They are both a supposition, but a hypothesis can be based on little or no evidance and is not assumed to be true at all.
User avatar #125 to #64 - frankwest (10/20/2012) [-]
No, you're correct, they are intended to explain something. Don't let his confidence fool you. Christianity is a theory as well based on his definition, it is a system of ideas intended to explain something. There is truly no way to prove anything on this Earth, any person who truly believed in science would tell you this. All we have here are douches who want to fit in. The try to push their sureness of one thing on others, just like super bible thumpers. I am agnostic, so I am pretty neutral on all this, but make sure to never let anyone sway YOUR OWN PERSONAL BELIEFS. They are yours, no one elses.
User avatar #140 to #125 - grahamernazi (10/20/2012) [-]
After looking up the definition, the Big Bang Theory seems more of a hypothesis to me. Idk how it is extensively tested. I am never totally sure about my "facts" since I have come to find out that my teachers were pretty ******* retarded and my mom loved to lie to me. My teacher accepted Texas as the biggest state and marked me for wrong since I said it was Alaska.
User avatar #146 to #140 - nigman (10/20/2012) [-]
Well I thought it was pretty obvious. The universe is expanding (the galaxies are flying apart). So as you go back in time, everything gets closer together. Keep on going back and you end up at a point in time when the entire universe fitted into a space the size of a baseball.

There are things so solidly proven that you cannot ever imagine they will one day be disproven. Things like the theroy of gravity, or the theory that the Earth orbits the sun. The theory of evolution or the big bang therory. These 4 things have such an overwhelming body of supporting evidance that they can be considered fact.


Christianity isn't a theory. Mainly because it doesn't explain anything ("the universe is too complex, must have been created by god" gives and infinite regression because it doesn't explain where god came from which must be even more complex than the universe if he can create a universe). So I would class Christianity as a religion (faith, superstition, divine claims, myth, religious dogma).
User avatar #71 to #59 - gorginhanson (10/20/2012) [-]
It's a SCIENTIFIC theory. It's not like you can say any dumb **** thing, and call it that.

What reason do you have for thinking its not true? Some writings in a book written by a some random person for a religion that didn't exist for 99.2 percent of human beings time on Earth?

User avatar #76 to #71 - grahamernazi (10/20/2012) [-]
I'd like to point down to my other comments clearing up another's confusion.
#388 to #59 - sprucie (10/20/2012) [-]
Like the 'theory' of gravity?
User avatar #379 to #59 - pokemonstheshiz ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
Everything is a theory in science. Something cannot be proven to be 100% true because you cannot sample everything that ever existed/will exist so there's always uncertainty. Especially in something as hard to observe as the Big Bang, there are plenty of small gaps in the theory.
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User avatar #383 to #286 - pokemonstheshiz ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
Gravity will remain a theory no matter what. Depending on what new discoveries are made, it will change within itself, because theories are ever expanding
User avatar #777 to #59 - armenhart (10/20/2012) [-]
no, that's one of the worse creationist arguments. theory in layman's terms means something completely different than theory as scientists call it. scientific theories have mounds of evidence to support them. they're just super strict about what becomes a law and what remains a theory.

tl;dr i don't intend to be rude, but that's just really stupid and i'm surprised anyone agrees with you
#781 to #777 - grahamernazi (10/20/2012) [-]
Look down at my other comments. Look down at my other comments. Look down at my other comments. Look down at my other comments. Look down at my other comments. Look down at my other comments. Look down at my other comments. Look down at my other comments.    
   
tl:dr: I'm not trying to be rude, but look down at my other comments.
Look down at my other comments. Look down at my other comments. Look down at my other comments. Look down at my other comments. Look down at my other comments. Look down at my other comments. Look down at my other comments. Look down at my other comments.

tl:dr: I'm not trying to be rude, but look down at my other comments.
User avatar #784 to #781 - armenhart (10/20/2012) [-]
my apologies, i just spent the last 2 minutes reading through them.
User avatar #722 to #50 - greendayalldaylong (10/20/2012) [-]
In order for something be considered "law" doesn't it have to able to be repeated time and time again and turn out to be true each time it's tested?
#738 to #722 - John Cena (10/20/2012) [-]
A theory will never turn into a law. The biggest difference between a law and a theory is that a theory is much more complex and dynamic. A law describes a single action, whereas a theory explains an entire group of related phenomena.
User avatar #740 to #738 - greendayalldaylong (10/20/2012) [-]
Ah, gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up!
User avatar #749 to #722 - nigman (10/20/2012) [-]
It would certainly help if something is repeatable and can be tested again and again. We know for sure that dinosaurs lived on this world from all the clues left behind. But we don't require them to live again for us to be sure that they existed. Like the existance of the dinosaurs, we know the big bang happened and we know when it happened; based on all the clues left behind. I think that's all we have to go on. But I also think it's enough to be sure.
User avatar #458 to #32 - finni (10/20/2012) [-]
However, there is more support for the Big Bang than is of a supernatural being. I'm a Christian and this made me rage!
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User avatar #33 to #32 - torkildsen (10/19/2012) [-]
I never said that
#34 to #33 - mattkingg **User deleted account** (10/19/2012) [-]
i know, i just wanted to point it out
#472 to #32 - mattkingg **User deleted account** (10/20/2012) [-]
also HOLY **** i may have caused a **** storm
#289 to #31 - bunkerman (10/20/2012) [-]
As a former student of a Catholic High School, I can probably explain this better. A Religion class is a mandatory aspect of education in most Catholic Schools, and virtually everything taught there [at least at my school] had the stipulation that everything taught is what the Christian Religion believes, and everything asked on quizzes/tests/homework is asking what the Christian religion believes.

This is EXACTLY the same as taking a quiz on Pokemon with one of the questions asking who created the universe. Regardless of personal belief on the subject pertaining to real life, the answer is still Arceus. It's all relative to the question.

Before you go all "HURR DURR CHRISTIAN-FAG" on me, I was raised a Christian, but I don't believe in the exact words of the Christian faith. I believe more in Deism than anything else. With that said, I'm still glad I went to that high school. The entire religion aspect was more about "How to be a good person" than "This is what happened, and you're burning for all eternity if you don't believe it."
User avatar #468 to #289 - torkildsen (10/20/2012) [-]
I understand what you're saying, but it doesn't look like a test in religion (or Christianity). Therefore I see no point to use that question.
User avatar #488 to #468 - torkildsen (10/20/2012) [-]
or is everything that is thaught on that school influenced by religion and that's why it's relevant? (I know very little about Catholic High Schools, because there's almost none of them in my country.)
I'm an Agnostic-Atheist so I'm pretty open-minded as to what people choose to believe in, I just don't like how it looks like they are trying to "brain-wash" you into thinking that God is the true answer (which is understandable if it's a Catholic School, but the girl taking it doesn't seem to be very religious. I hope they aren't forced to go to such a school?)
#801 to #488 - bunkerman (10/20/2012) [-]
Honestly, unless it's an INCREDIBLY ****** school, the religion aspect has no effect on any other parts of education. There are a few Catholic schools that do intertwine religion and history as fact (key word: Few), but most do not. For example, through out high school I was taught [even in my Religion class] that we're most likely the product of Evolution and the Big Bang.

I'll admit that growing up until Junior High, everything was treated as fact, but then again which story do you think little kids are more interested in listening to? xD The stories about this little dude ******* up a giant with only a rock and a sling and other military conquests, or animals changing every couple hundred years? :P

Honestly though, I treat most of the historical account from Christianity as exaggerated stories to teach a lesson or give a pearl of wisdom. It may have started as a factual account, but you know how things can degrade over time when passed on by mouth. Do I think some guy raised a staff and moved an entire sea? No. In all actuality, the guy most likely knew about the tides and resulting sand bars and used those to cross the sea, and by the time the people pursuing them caught up, the tides had changed and they couldn't continue.

Now imagine that story being passed on for about 2000 years via mouth alone. People start to add speculation, exaggeration, etc., and before you know it you have an almighty higher being splitting a goddam ocean [on the command of one of these slaves] for this group of rebelling and escaped slaves and killing the people trying to catch them.

With that said, even more of the stories are trying to supply a reason for something people just can't understand or no one knows. Ex: We explain to little kids that babies come from storks so we don't have to explain them about sex, or Santa Claus so they can enjoy the spirit of the holiday season. are modern day equivalents. We don't believe in them, but they serve a purpose.
User avatar #860 to #801 - torkildsen (10/20/2012) [-]
Yeah, when I think about it we learned the very same in my school, which was in no way religious and it didn't change my view on things (OR DID IT?! dundunduuuun). I think your way of explaining the stories told in the Bible is the one I'm most happy with as well.
#587 - durkadurka (10/20/2012) [-]
I'm not saying it was the aliens, but it was the aliens.
User avatar #589 to #587 - frankieforward (10/20/2012) [-]
Technically God would be an alien ha ha so yeah!
#602 to #589 - John Cena (10/20/2012) [-]
Shut the **** up.
#560 - aBlindMoron (10/20/2012) [-]
>open up Microsoft Word   
>create fake test   
>mark it with red ink   
>write some 			********		 backstory   
>upload it to the internet   
>initiate 			*********
>open up Microsoft Word
>create fake test
>mark it with red ink
>write some ******** backstory
>upload it to the internet
>initiate *********
User avatar #566 to #560 - thederpestest (10/20/2012) [-]
I'm suprised that guy didn't get knocked the **** out... notice the speed on his head when he's hitting the ice. Or on the slow motion version on youtube
#324 - sevenxninja (10/20/2012) [-]
Religion in school is stupid, we have churches for a reason.
#364 to #324 - aerosol (10/20/2012) [-]
MFW I went to a Catholic school.
MFW I went to a Catholic school.
User avatar #329 to #324 - Scizor (10/20/2012) [-]
the seperation of church and state? they only say it exists.....

goddamn politicians and their lies.
User avatar #331 to #329 - sevenxninja (10/20/2012) [-]
Thumb up because of Scizor
User avatar #137 - shadowstepone (10/20/2012) [-]
the earth was created by asteroids and meteors clumping together, the universe was created by big bang/god/hercules/zeus. btw, what sort of person makes a test with the proper age of the earth, but no option for the big bang?
#11 - Hightower (10/19/2012) [-]
I would make it my personal mission in life to get this teacher fired. Your religious beliefs have no place in a classroom. And if the school wouldn't fire her, I'd sue the entire district.
User avatar #264 to #11 - fredthemilkman (10/20/2012) [-]
It could be a test over ancient religions, as in what the Greeks believed at the time
#288 to #11 - John Cena (10/20/2012) [-]
the instructions say circle the most correct, im assuming the teacher meant circle the most popular answer, like it wouldnt be zeus because greek mythology doesnt say zues did, i guess it could be aliens because some believe they created earth but most people would just go with god because its more popular.
User avatar #638 to #11 - kidel (10/20/2012) [-]
You sir, would then be a hero.
User avatar #647 to #11 - lazypaul (10/20/2012) [-]
I'm not sure that the teacher is religious. Look at the 1st question, Christians believe that the world is only 6000 years old.
User avatar #773 to #11 - jeudyfeo (10/20/2012) [-]
It was a catholic school, thats why it says that OP added the top text it was originally from reddit, which said it was from a catholic school
User avatar #12 to #11 - thomasdude (10/19/2012) [-]
That is an honorable statement. But if I were you, i'd not check the tests in the bible belt schools. You'd be sueing a lot.
#13 to #12 - Hightower (10/19/2012) [-]
Wow. People actually teach this crap as fact and get away with it?
User avatar #14 to #13 - thomasdude (10/19/2012) [-]
Yes, they do. In this test, they atleast show SOME degree of modern age progress by accepting the age of the earth, and believing in the evolutional theories.
#17 to #14 - Hightower (10/19/2012) [-]
I see that, and it kind of made me scratch my head. You really can't have it both ways.
#161 to #17 - John Cena (10/20/2012) [-]
I go to a catholic highschool, what they teach to us in our religion class is that every action has to be started by an outside force, they then said that the action was the Big Bang and that the outside force was God who initiated it. Just getting my two cents it
User avatar #19 to #12 - dikslapping (10/19/2012) [-]
I am from the bible belt area I never had any religious **** in our class. It was about 12 years ago though it might of changed.
User avatar #81 to #19 - fredthemilkman (10/20/2012) [-]
If Texas is in the bible belt there is no religious stuff being taught as of now.
User avatar #93 to #81 - TheExile (10/20/2012) [-]
I lived in the bible belt, and the moment someone showed up offering free bibles at school, they were sued to **** . That's also a very, very rural area that's very religious.
User avatar #260 to #93 - fredthemilkman (10/20/2012) [-]
A man was handing out bibles to anyone who wanted it in my school's parking lot.
He got arrested by a rookie cop for passing out bibles for free.
User avatar #268 to #260 - TheExile (10/20/2012) [-]
That's essentially how it went down back then. They weren't forcing the bibles on anyone. They were a friendly church, and were just standing in the lobby, and if anybody asked for one, they would give it to them for free. I may be atheist, but I saw no problem with it. They weren't forcing the bibles upon anyone, and weren't pestering everyone if they wanted one. Just standing there waiting for people to ask for one. It was very ridiculous, and actually made me pretty mad.
User avatar #273 to #268 - fredthemilkman (10/20/2012) [-]
Well in my school's area they'res a Mormon temple down the road, and they sometimes annoy some of the kids.
User avatar #821 to #11 - fyaq (10/20/2012) [-]
>implying it wasnt faked for thumbs.
User avatar #45 to #11 - teoberry (10/19/2012) [-]
probably a private catholic school, so you couldn't. if it was public i'd go for it.
User avatar #149 to #45 - mcfirestar (10/20/2012) [-]
if it was a catholic school number 1 would be 3000 years
User avatar #255 to #149 - Axelfbomber (10/20/2012) [-]
itd be 6000 actually
User avatar #632 to #255 - thirdasscheek (10/20/2012) [-]
I thought it would only be 6 days..
User avatar #637 to #632 - latiel (10/20/2012) [-]
It's the age of the Earth, not how long it took for the Earth to be created.
User avatar #641 to #637 - thirdasscheek (10/20/2012) [-]
shows how much i know about religion lol
User avatar #153 to #149 - teoberry (10/20/2012) [-]
at mine i never learned that, i was taught some ****** mix of creationism and evolution. but it's more, darwin had the right idea, but he didn't believe in god so he's wrong.
User avatar #376 to #153 - pokemonstheshiz ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
Darwin was actually Christian for most of his life. He had doubts at points, but generally considered himself a theist
User avatar #155 to #153 - mcfirestar (10/20/2012) [-]
to me that seems pretty stupid, but just the last part really
User avatar #157 to #155 - teoberry (10/20/2012) [-]
yeah, it's a ****** up school.
#451 to #149 - John Cena (10/20/2012) [-]
i went to private catholic school and the teachers were mostly atheists actually fairly sure one of the Jesuits was atheist he just liked to drink whiskey and smoke =P
User avatar #219 - Fgner (10/20/2012) [-]
In a public school in the United States it is illegal for a teacher to demonstrate political, religious, or (dependant on the topic) moral standpoints. Minors are considered to easily influenced by older adults, especially of those who they trust and are told to take the information that is given to them as 100% facts. Therefore, if this test was brought to attention to an official, the teacher would immediately be fired and maybe even sentenced.
User avatar #423 to #219 - elcreepo (10/20/2012) [-]
In American Literature it's impossible to avoid talking about religion. In any social studies class it's impossible to avoid talking about moral standpoints.

These are the exceptions of course, and of course a teacher can't say which standpoint is the best standpoint.
#224 to #219 - John Cena (10/20/2012) [-]
Who said this was a public school? Private schools often are based in religion, and is perfectly legal for them to teach creationism. Dumbass.
User avatar #226 to #224 - Fgner (10/20/2012) [-]
Okay, I'm sorry, I guess I didn't make it clear enough for you.

IN A PUBLIC SCHOOL IN THE UNITED STATES

And if somebody sent their kid to a Catholic school or something, this should have been expected. So they have no right to act suprised. And because they are a private school, not public, my comment doesn't apply.
#225 to #219 - John Cena (10/20/2012) [-]
All of that is true, but I'm willing to hope that this was at the very least a test in a catholic school.
User avatar #227 to #225 - Fgner (10/20/2012) [-]
The problem I have with it being a Catholic school, is that this guy is acting suprised about it, when he knows his child is going to a Catholic school. I mean, it's kind of expected then.
#232 to #227 - vparrish (10/20/2012) [-]
I'm betting this a fake photo. The other questions on the page really aren't in line with that one. The person would have to be in first grade at latest to be asked a question like that. They then followed it up with a question about time geologic time periods, which at least i didn't learn about till several years later.
User avatar #230 to #225 - rawpedobearraw (10/20/2012) [-]
i would have gone to one but i hate uniforms with a passion.
#730 - John Cena (10/20/2012) [-]
What kind of teacher would put something like that in a geography test? the **** ?
#430 - dickthebutt (10/20/2012) [-]
The Earth was not created by the big bang LOL
The Universe was created by the big bang. The Earth was created thanks to nebulas
(English is not my first language, but you got my point, anyway, thinking god created the Earth is retarded as **** , where the **** are exams like this made?)
User avatar #444 to #430 - siggythepiggy (10/20/2012) [-]
TECHNICALLY everything, including the earth, was made by the big bang
#445 to #444 - dickthebutt (10/20/2012) [-]
That means that the big bang created homosexuals?
#467 to #444 - crilleballe (10/20/2012) [-]
> Made by the big bang
> Made by
Doesn't the big bang theory only explain the huge explosion and not the initial creation of matter?
User avatar #442 to #430 - cakefaceify (10/20/2012) [-]
Big bang led to whatever led to creating nebulas which led to the creation of the earth. So indirectly yes the big bang created the earth :P
User avatar #434 to #430 - fausticorn (10/20/2012) [-]
******** , everyone knows Hercules made earth.
User avatar #335 - InglushMayjur (10/20/2012) [-]
Faith in Public Education: Lost
Faith in Humanity: Restored
#366 to #335 - John Cena (10/20/2012) [-]
how is less faith a good thing are you that dumb m8 fite me irl
User avatar #761 - vanoreo (10/20/2012) [-]
>Earth created by God
>4.7 billion years ago

Pick One.
#694 - MasterManiac (10/20/2012) [-]
The Big Bang Theory was proposed by a Roman Catholic priest
#684 - thedevilmaycry (10/20/2012) [-]
even though i am a christian i must say i'm very proud of their daughter for speaking her mind when she felt it was appropriate. no one should have to answer or submit to something they don't believe in.
#470 - worldatarms (10/20/2012) [-]
Why do I keep getting Question 2 wrong?
#607 - ushuaia (10/20/2012) [-]
Sorry Op if the right answer to the teacher was God, then the first question answer should be 6000 years
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