stahp :'(. 9/11 jokes are just plane If you're interested in learning about the superior moral high ground of atheists, please look up a few of these. - People's Socialist Republic of Albania - Cze stahp :'( 9/11 jokes are just plane wrong no? If you're interested in learning about the superior moral high ground of atheists please look up a few these - People's Socialist Republic Albania Cze
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User avatar #5 - Ninotori
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Yup, christians did that there on 9/11; no doubt.
#6 to #5 - taylorryan
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right, because the only religion in the world is christianity.
User avatar #7 to #6 - Ninotori
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Was referring to the fact that all the photos he used were of Christians and yet he placed 9/11 photos up there.
User avatar #16 to #7 - Crusader
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The first monotheistic religion to become common is Judaism, Abraham, the "father" of Judaism had 2 sons, Isaac (Who then went to be Christian) and Ishmael (Who became Islamic).
The Christians were actually Jewish, hence Judaic-Christian, and Islam was part of this, when Christ came, Christianity/What would become Islam split from Judaism, Then later when Muhammad came, Islam split from early Christians.
So by default, Muslims are part Christian, who are part Jewish, hence why they have the same basic ideals, and the Torah is in the Bible (It's the first 5 books of the Old Testament) and then the Quran is basically the extended Bible, since it has everything from the Bible and then Muhammad's scriptures.
This is also why they all claim Jerusalem as neutral territory as it belongs to all 3 religions.

Yes I know Hinduism is "technically" monotheistic, but when Brahman represents them-self in 5 million+ ways, it's arguable.
User avatar #32 to #16 - Ninotori
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I know that history. The French have roots in the gauls, as do the english, but they don't believe all the same things either.
#8 to #5 - anon
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it's religion, does it really matter which one is being discussed?
#9 - tehjman
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If you're interested in learning about the superior moral high ground of atheists, please look up a few of these.

- People's Socialist Republic of Albania
- Czechoslovakia coup d'état of 1948
- Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge
- North Korea

And last but definitely not lest, - Communist Russia. (Oh ya know, that one guy Joseph Effin' Stalin who boasts an approximate kill count of 20,000,000 human beings. Yeah he supported bans on religion and worked toward a Communist nation that practices GUESS WHAT?? State Atheism)

I know it may taste bitter in your mouth, OP (No no I mean BESIDES the taste of dick). But the truth is that some human's suck, VERY BADLY. And when I say suck very badly I mean ARE EVIL. They just justify their twisted whims through different means.

TL;DR - They're horrible humans on both sides. Its not the belief system that defines the person, It's the poeple themselves and how they manipulate the belief system to carry out their whims whether it be for evil or for good. You shouldn't lump everyone who believes in something "greater" or "supernatural" as some baby eating zealot.

User avatar #11 to #9 - herecomesjohnny
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#12 to #11 - tehjman
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No, the point I was trying to make was there have been murders and atrocities committed both in the name of religion as well as atheism, or at least "anti religion-ism". (And yes I know that isn't exactly a word but you get my point)

I'm just baffled by people who try to act like religion is the opium of the people while at the same time pretending that "No one has been killed in the name of atheism/anti-religion".

Trying to act like atheism doesn't have **** and that even if it did it wouldn't stink is just comical. I love that I already have 2 red thumbs down for saying that some humans are just pure bastards to begin with no matter if they use religion or non-religion to justify it.

Also: Yes let's see all the red thumbs I get by offended non-theists for pointing out instances where atheistic mindsets were actually the cause of murder and property damage. Pic related.
User avatar #14 to #12 - herecomesjohnny
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but none of those examples have crimes committed in the sake of destroying religion, what people blame these totalitarian states of has nothing to do with religion.
#17 to #14 - tehjman
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Albania - Agrarian Reform Law of August 1945. Took Land, buildings, assets from religious holders. Exiled (and in some cases tortured) people in religious positions in the nation, even if they were citizens.

Czechoslovakia - Once again religious holdings seized by the state, people in religious positions imprisoned against their will by the StB. Held mock trials for offenders.

Cambodia - Ever heard of the Killing Fields? Yes Pol Pot was killing many people for many different reasons but one of them was being any kind of religious.

North Korea 1949 - 166 priests killed or imprisoned. Religion is still punishable by death or imprisonment

I just find it funny that in the past whenever a nation declares an "Atheist state", it meant death and oppression for whoever was religious. You know, death and oppression? Those things atheists are usually saying religion is guilty of?
User avatar #19 to #17 - herecomesjohnny
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alright then, i'll have to side with you on that one.
I guess i misconcieve laic state and atheist state.
#20 to #19 - tehjman
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Thumbed you up for a reasonable discussion on the internet (of all places)
Thumbed you up for a reasonable discussion on the internet (of all places)
User avatar #18 to #14 - tehjman
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Um, they pretty much all had to do with destroying/removing/shutting up religion.
User avatar #24 to #9 - zarakitty
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-kills people for 'god'.
-blows up twin towers for 'god'.
-murders doctors for 'god'.
-blow up hospital for 'god'.

Never heard of an Atheist killing for their beliefs.
User avatar #31 to #24 - Crusader
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Kills people because of the social manipulation of religion
Blows up towers because of the political manipulation of god
Murders doctors because of the lack of social evolution
Blows up hospital because of political, social, whatever manipulation of religion.
Religion is a tool, a weapon, who's to blame for the murder? The hand, or the knife?
User avatar #27 to #24 - teoberry
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did you even read what he said? i think Stalin and Mao killed more than religion ever has
#21 to #9 - anon
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and you didn't even mention Mao Zedong with his kill count of 178,000,000.
User avatar #22 to #9 - icedmantwo
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if i remember correctly, the rulers of communist countries felt that the church(es) in the country were drawing some of the people away, and that they held to much political power for the people, which is to say any power at all. since one of the points of the form of communism that was common in the soviet union basically relied on the ruler having all the power, the church was an unacceptable hindrance to the soviets. not because they were atheist and hated religion, but because they were communist and wanted all the power

that being said theoretical communism would be great if it weren't for absolute power corruption absolutely and turn what could be the best chance for peace in the world, into a corrupt dictatorship
#29 - alekksandar
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User avatar #28 - fargone
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Religion in itself isn't bad. It's a nice lie to tell yourself to help you sleep at night and in its basic form, telling yourself that you'll go to a nice place when you die as long as you aren't a dick to everyone or anything else that doesn't cause obvious inconvenience to others is probably beneficial to society. At the very least, it shouldn't have any negative effects.
If religious and nonreligious people would agree to disagree with other nonreligious people and religious people, everything would be significantly peachier than it currently is.

The problem arises the very second someone thinks that their religion or lack thereof makes them special in any way. As soon as one asshat gets the idea into his head that his religion/holybook/lack of religion makes him better than anyone else, things immediately start to go south. And when that asshat acts on those ideas, the party gets ******* ruined for everyone.

TL;DR Religion/nonreligion good, people using it as an excuse for anything bad
User avatar #26 - grantika
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"That guy's possessed, LETS DRILL A ******* HOLE IN HIS HEAD TO RELEASE THE DEMON SO HIS SPIRIT CAN BE FREE" or "That guys a witch, lets drown him, if he manages to swim back up, we'll burn him to death, and if he drowns we'll give him a proper burial" God damn middle ages.
User avatar #1 - elderad
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I did nazi that description cumming