Well Damn. I guess the Indians really told us.... When yaw people cama- f dis-. because history is always written by the winner regardless how wrong they are Well Damn I guess the Indians really told us When yaw people cama- f dis- because history is always written by winner regardless how wrong they are
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#1 - konradkurze
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(10/02/2012) [-]
because history is always written by the winner regardless how wrong they are
#2 to #1 - vladhellsing
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(10/02/2012) [-]
No no no, history is written by the observer. Propaganda is written by the victor.
#3 to #2 - konradkurze
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(10/02/2012) [-]
but most times the observers are either part of the victors side and write the history according to the propaganda, or are bullied by the victor to write what they want history to say

like how RUSSIA won ww2, but usa didnt like that so they filled the world with books saying they won
#4 to #3 - gnorfell
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(10/02/2012) [-]
Well technically the won the war together...



And the quote "History is written by the victor" is true and very old.
Until a few decades ago when freedom of speech and journalism really got to the people.
#5 to #4 - konradkurze
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(10/02/2012) [-]
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yeah technically you won the war together, its just dishonorable to bleat to the world that USA was 'the winner' especially given the larger scale of warfare, territory and casualties russia was involved in
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#362 to #5 - jakols
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(10/03/2012) [-]
+ USA was late for the war, and did not want to have anything to do with it until Perl Harbor. Officially the war started on September 1 1939, and USA did not join until December 11, 1941.

although they profited by selling weapons to all the countries during and before the way ( reason for them not to join) and got a bloody strict ticket after the war.

meanwhile we back here in Norway was getting ass-raped by the Germans. So thank you England ans Scotland for helping out and kicking some German ass

#395 to #362 - celticspirit
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(10/03/2012) [-]
Excuse me? Scottland and England? What about wales? pretty sure a welsh regiment got decimated serving in norway, please remember and respect those who fell from ALL countries of the UK
#413 to #395 - jakols
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(10/03/2012) [-]
Sorry about this.
all i know for sure is that all operations were launched from Scotland, where the Norwegian "Official National Resistance" was located. But by all means, it was not intentional to exclude Ireland and Wales from my previous statement.

So i would like to pull my former statement and say: "Thanks to all of the UK for the support during the war"
#811 to #413 - celticspirit
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(10/04/2012) [-]
its ok man.... maybe i over reacted... it just rustles my jimmies when people for get about us haha!
#367 to #362 - konradkurze
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(10/03/2012) [-]
i remember there was one story about how on D-Day when the landing craft were being lowered, one got stuck from the crane breaking down.....a bunch of brits decided that would be a good time to piss over the side of the carrier,
even with the americans swearing at them, the brits kept going till their bladders were empty
#6 to #5 - gnorfell
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(10/02/2012) [-]
Well I'm Swedish so I don't give a rats ass.

All I know about our effort in the war is that we basically started the whole Racial Studies jippo in the 30's for the Nazis to take and we helped them with a lot more than that...
#7 to #6 - konradkurze
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(10/02/2012) [-]
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explains why germany milked noway for aryan kids, thanks sweden, you helped us at the same time you sold out your neighbour :)

im sending some norwegian nazi zombies your way
#11 to #3 - killyojoy
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(10/02/2012) [-]
HAHA Russia ARGUABLY won the europeon theater but the who the **** single handedly(Ish) took on Japan? I think we all know the answer to that.
#330 to #11 - EdwardNigma ONLINE
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(10/03/2012) [-]
America was the main force that defeated Japan, yes. But, though with American, British, etc, assistance, Russia was what turned the tides of battle when it came to the German downfall. Without the Russians assistance **** would have got ******* REAL. On another note, just for anyone else, it wasn't that the USA wanted credit FOR defeating Germany, if I remember right, it was because the Cold War wasn't long after WWII. America didn't want it's citizens or soldiers to sympathise with the Russians so they pulled a dick move and tried to make themselves look like the heroes instead of Russia.

Anyone, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Because if I am, I would like to know what really went down.
#797 to #330 - killyojoy
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(10/03/2012) [-]
I do support what you said that's kind of why I said single-handily(ish).
#798 to #797 - EdwardNigma ONLINE
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(10/03/2012) [-]
Yay, history.
#13 to #11 - konradkurze
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(10/02/2012) [-]
yeah
fighting a few battles then nuking the **** out of the japs was hard
#25 to #13 - killyojoy
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(10/02/2012) [-]
Wow you know I think Im gonna sum everything up like that for now on. Shooting a few germans and then listening to them surrender that was hard. Burning a lil bit of fuel and landing on the moon that was hard, freeing a few slaves and destroying the confederacy that was hard, Killing some red coats and writing a constitution wow that was hard.
#28 to #25 - konradkurze
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(10/03/2012) [-]
well USa's issues with fighting japan was its own fault, they chose to invade, they found out the japs were psychos and yet chose to keep fighting and suffered evil casualties as a result, which prompted nuking them as the easy win

sad thing with usa is, they fought and bled to take europe, and now wont ******* leave, they fought and bled harder for japan, yet left after a short occupation
so all in all, while the japs turned western from trying to copy the west, europe became west because the allies never left and instead forced their culture down our throats

#32 to #28 - copernicus
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(10/03/2012) [-]
USA is still in Japan... Like dude, your whole comment just screams "I'm a retard". I don't usually get into FJ arguments but Jesus titty ******* Christ, how stupid are you?
#41 to #32 - konradkurze
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(10/03/2012) [-]
just because ive never considered japan important enough to study it, doesnt make me a retard
your comment just goes to prove usa doesnt know how to piss off and leave others alone

nice having proof usa is so fascist
#247 to #41 - TwistedBamboozler
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(10/03/2012) [-]
How do you think Japan became technologically advanced so quickly? Because they don't have their own army. All their money can go towards their economy because WE are still stationed there and WE defend japan.
#257 to #247 - konradkurze
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(10/03/2012) [-]
so in other words usa created japan to be more technologically advanced that usa?
end result, usa owes what 180 million debt to japan today?

the only reason usa stays put in occupied countries is to PREVENT them from building up sizable armies ever again, and the economies only get as powerful as usa lets them
#260 to #257 - TwistedBamboozler
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(10/03/2012) [-]
You are correct, that is exactly why. I never argued that. All I was saying is that we are still in Japan.
#397 to #260 - celticspirit
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(10/03/2012) [-]
Actually the British and Americans immediately 'Allied' With japan as soon as the war ended as they realised the potential strategical advantages of having a permanent base so close to the rising Communist China, and of course Russia. By allied with japan i mean shrouding our occupancy by giving relief to the civilians etc. and ignoring blatant war crimes committed by some of their generals, look up a book called the Forgotten Highlander... that will blow your mind.
#759 to #397 - TwistedBamboozler
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(10/03/2012) [-]
Looks like a good read. Thanks man!
#278 to #260 - konradkurze
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(10/03/2012) [-]
well i guess i should thank you, i prefer to learn more things when possible,
even if the subject doesnt interest me i prefer to have better knowledge should the subject arise later
#65 to #41 - killyojoy
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(10/03/2012) [-]
It's common knowledge that we are still in japan you just skipped 8th grade history a few too many times.
#67 to #65 - konradkurze
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(10/03/2012) [-]
no just the oh-so-great history teachers i had never mentioned japan

its as if they took a page from usa's books and acted like most places outside the country were 'here be dragons'
#70 to #67 - killyojoy
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(10/03/2012) [-]
OR if you would get your had out of your ass you could actually listen to what they say.
#74 to #70 - konradkurze
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(10/03/2012) [-]
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oh i paid attention,
thats why i question why we didnt get taught more
#75 to #74 - killyojoy
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(10/03/2012) [-]
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#82 to #75 - konradkurze
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#39 to #28 - anon
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(10/03/2012) [-]
Actually not, japan's fleet was almost defeated and the only reason for the nuking of japan was to scare off russia.
Russia made plans with the USA to invade northern japan and the USA has used the dropping of the nuclear bombs only as a demonstration of its power.

#564 to #3 - vladhellsing
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(10/03/2012) [-]
That's not true "history" then. My point still stands.
#507 to #2 - CapnInterwebz
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(10/03/2012) [-]
But then propaganda becomes history
#328 to #1 - EdwardNigma ONLINE
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(10/03/2012) [-]
Theres history and wisdom around here and thats my favourite combination.
#467 to #1 - bannon
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(10/03/2012) [-]
Which is why I believe Hitler wasn't such a bad guy!
#702 to #467 - konradkurze
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(10/03/2012) [-]
oh hitler was bad, for sure, just allied written history books call him a german
thats a lie
he was a jew, born in austria, and migrated to germany,
#531 to #1 - egor
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(10/03/2012) [-]
its ****** up, were like oh wahh british are opressing us we dont want to live like they want us to were leaving. oh hey indians btw ur way of living is wrong ur savages and we gon kill most of you. and steal ur land ciao!
#252 to #1 - legin
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(10/03/2012) [-]
This is for the record. History is written by the victor. History is filled with liars. If he lives and we die, his truth becomes written-and ours is lost. Shepherd will a hero. 'Cause all you need to change the world is one good lie and a river of blood. He's about to complete the greatest trick a liar ever played on history... But only if he lives, and we die.
#338 to #252 - CodeUltra
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(10/03/2012) [-]
Cpt. Price x)
#263 to #252 - konradkurze
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(10/03/2012) [-]
very well put, so very strong and true

all one needs to ensure a lie becomes strong enough to be believed as truth is for all those who know the real truth to be silenced so they do not give voice to what they know. The liar knows it is better that a thousand die than one speak up against their word. History as it is written is merely the documentation of the most popularly held lies
#240 - esmebuffay
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(10/03/2012) [-]
People of every race, religion, gender, and country have committed terrible deeds, no exceptions, however their sins should not reflect on the other people of that race, religion, gender, or country. I'm fine with being blamed for what I've done, but being blamed for my ancestors crimes or the crimes of other people of my race, religion, gender, or country is not something I will stand for, nor should I have to.
#268 to #240 - finni
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(10/03/2012) [-]
Well said.
#289 to #240 - harleyzone
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(10/03/2012) [-]
anybody else read this in bill nye's voice? this actually seems like something he would say too...
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#243 to #240 - denoface
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(10/03/2012) [-]
100% agree
#248 to #240 - TheFixer
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(10/03/2012) [-]
why cant i favorite and thumb this MORE than once!!
#258 to #240 - tomodashi
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(10/03/2012) [-]
I love you...
#12 - stevestevestevetwo
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(10/02/2012) [-]
This post made me cry a trail of tears.
#523 - impo **User deleted account**
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(10/03/2012) [-]
It's pretty funny how FJ-ers on this post bash americans for something their ancestors did, but everyone still laughs at much more insulting jokes such as ****** Jokes, Nazy Jokes, Atheist/Christian jokes, etc. etc. in unison. Today already, a ****** post hit  frontpage with over 3000 thumbs. Yeeah, bash the ****** but don't touch my indian. It's like it's easyer to mock slavery than to mock opression, really smooth. It's always easyer to bash dumb stereotypes than to bash smart stereotypes... It's always easyer to make  fun of blondes than of the chinese geniuses.    
   
   
tl;dr - selfrighteous faggots are the populace of FJ and I'm among them.
It's pretty funny how FJ-ers on this post bash americans for something their ancestors did, but everyone still laughs at much more insulting jokes such as ****** Jokes, Nazy Jokes, Atheist/Christian jokes, etc. etc. in unison. Today already, a ****** post hit frontpage with over 3000 thumbs. Yeeah, bash the ****** but don't touch my indian. It's like it's easyer to mock slavery than to mock opression, really smooth. It's always easyer to bash dumb stereotypes than to bash smart stereotypes... It's always easyer to make fun of blondes than of the chinese geniuses.


tl;dr - selfrighteous faggots are the populace of FJ and I'm among them.
#528 to #523 - holdup
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(10/03/2012) [-]
then post **** making fun of Indians if your so bad ass.
why are there no Indians on star trek? coz they don't fukken work in the future either.
where do you hide an Indian's welfare so they never find it? in their workbooks
what is black, red, and blue allover? the Indian guy I kicked the **** out of.
#563 to #528 - meestaa
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(10/03/2012) [-]
You're a special kind of special, you know that?
You're a special kind of special, you know that?
#805 to #563 - pastmemories
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(10/04/2012) [-]
Thumb up Comment talking about how we're all afraid to make fun of indians   
   
Thumb down comment making fun of indians.    
   
FUNNYJUNK LOGIC!!
Thumb up Comment talking about how we're all afraid to make fun of indians

Thumb down comment making fun of indians.

FUNNYJUNK LOGIC!!
#552 to #523 - pastmemories
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(10/03/2012) [-]
Easyer
Easyer
Easyer
Easyer
#725 to #552 - ithinkihaveaids **User deleted account**
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(10/03/2012) [-]
we dont give a **** asswipe, it was right enough to be understood.
#553 to #523 - lolzordz
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(10/03/2012) [-]
well they defend indians only at the expense of belittling religion again,so nothing new there...
#726 to #523 - ithinkihaveaids **User deleted account**
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(10/03/2012) [-]
yeap especially when ''********* were forced out of their homes and then killed.

sry for unrelated comment.
#749 to #523 - griphun
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(10/03/2012) [-]
Eh, I don't care. I hate everyone.
#707 to #523 - marcuss
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(10/03/2012) [-]
**marcuss rolled a random image posted in comment #1 at dese dogs ** none can comprehend the minds off men
#530 to #523 - aksion
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#527 to #523 - HarvietheDinkle
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(10/03/2012) [-]
this
this
#525 to #523 - anonsoftomarroww **User deleted account**
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#532 - fyaq
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(10/03/2012) [-]
LOG IN AND SAY THAT LIKE A MAN.
#598 to #532 - sirthomasburr
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#446 - siggythepiggy
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(10/03/2012) [-]
WHITE MAN CAME
ACROSS THE SEA
HE BROUGHT US PAIN
AND MISERY

HE KILLED OUR TRIBES
HE KILLED OUR CREED
HE TOOK OUR GAME FOR HIS OWN NEED

WE FOUGHT HIM HARD
WE FOUGHT HIM WELL
OUT ON THE PLAINS
WE GAVE HIM HELL!

BUT MANY CAME
TOO MUCH FOR CREE
OH WILL WE EVER
BE SET FREE?
#450 to #446 - baaltomekk
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(10/03/2012) [-]
White man came
Saw the blessed land
We cared, you took
You fought, we lost
Not the war but an unfair fight
Sceneries painted beautiful in blood
#503 to #450 - oux
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(10/03/2012) [-]
wait... Why are you being thumbed down for citing "Creek Mary's blood"? I love that song and I love Nightwish!
#666 to #503 - baaltomekk
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(10/03/2012) [-]
Me too, bro. Me too...
#456 to #446 - tehpwnrer
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(10/03/2012) [-]
WHITE MAN CAME
ACROSS THE SEA
HE HAD NO GAMES
FOR HIS PS3
#614 - kkitkat
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(10/03/2012) [-]
Creeper: I know that feel, bro.
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#623 to #621 - kkitkat
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(10/03/2012) [-]
But I used them to make a hat

Still counts.
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#378 - kingmaker
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#422 - BlahDude ONLINE
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(10/03/2012) [-]
Look, for all the butthurt people in the comments:

We should stop thinking of posts like these as attacks on modern day Americans and Christians because of something their ancestors did, but instead start thinking of it as a reminder of some of the horrible things humans have done to their fellow humans in the past, a reminder so as not to repeat the same mistakes again.
#428 to #422 - thesageteffect
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(10/03/2012) [-]
But that also implies that we shouldn't blame the Germans for what the Nazis did, the Russians for what Stalin did, the Spanish for what the Inquisition did, or every country in Europe and virtually every Caucasian man in existence for what the Crusades did.

Oh, wait.

Yeah, I think this guy has a point.
#454 to #428 - sfranklin
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(10/03/2012) [-]
yes because caucasians are the only ones who do bad things in history...look up pol pott, idi amin, sadam huessien, gadaffi, diem, chairman mao, kim jong ill, hirohito, mobuto sese seko just to name a few
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#448 to #438 - hybredmoon
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(10/03/2012) [-]
History...is ******* boring.