about adoring fan. . you guys know him, right? the adoring fan from the elder scrolls 4. he follows you around when you are the arena oham ion you might know hi po ta Toes

about adoring fan

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you guys know him, right? the adoring fan from the elder
scrolls 4. he follows you around when you are the arena
oham ion
you might know him too, from the elder scrolls W,
his name is Cicero_. he used to be in cyrodiil working '.is. W, an
assain for the dark brotherhood. and when i met him i
wanted to know more about him. so i actually read all his
journals, and in the first one, there is one part i' m MBE
freaked out about
tth of Ram' s Hand, Ela 18?
Completed the Arena contract. I ultimately decided to pose
is. W, 'is.'' starstruck fan, and immediately got into the Grand
Champion' s good grabes. While escorting the arrogant fool
through the Great Forest, I slashed his throat and left the
corpse for the bears.
ever wondered why adoring fan barried 'is.'' dagger’? i
mean he doesnt use it he just runs away from every
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#10 - supdogg (09/27/2012) [-]
This was the only thing the adoring fan was good for
This was the only thing the adoring fan was good for
User avatar #29 to #10 - theblackmannigger (09/28/2012) [-]
Please tell me there's a youtube link.
#48 to #41 - theblackmannigger (09/28/2012) [-]
Oh thank you Liam!
Oh thank you Liam!
#87 - anon (09/28/2012) [-]
Took him with me through one of the Oblivion gates.
Told him to wait there.
Closed the gate.
Never saw him again.
As far as I know, he's still stuck in Oblivion.
#484 to #87 - deathstalkerelite (09/28/2012) [-]
MFW I am one thumb from raising the total to 400 on your comment.
MFW I am one thumb from raising the total to 400 on your comment.
#179 to #87 - EdwardNigma ONLINE (09/28/2012) [-]
Oh **** thats genius.
#500 to #87 - Hidnight (09/29/2012) [-]
<<I once got the Wabba Jack
<<From the shrine of the Sheogorath
<<Turned my fan into a piece of cheese or what ever you need to give to the shrine to talk
<<Gave shrine my fan cheese
<<Not even Azura can help him now.
#129 to #87 - johndapro (09/28/2012) [-]
That was the best Oblivion related thing I've ever red.
User avatar #146 to #144 - johndapro (09/28/2012) [-]
Typo, I just bought a new keyboard and I'm still getting used to it.
User avatar #147 to #146 - hardtuner (09/28/2012) [-]
i suspected it, i just want to be funny.
#509 to #129 - freerustrytrombone ONLINE (09/29/2012) [-]
it really blue my mind
#100 to #87 - silverlance (09/28/2012) [-]
Best adoring fan story ive heard
Best adoring fan story ive heard
#92 to #87 - shiftyscent (09/28/2012) [-]
Comment Picture
#353 - thegoodgatsby (09/28/2012) [-]
But Adoring Fan is a Bosmer and Cicero is an Imperial. Also, Adoring Fan existed roughly 200 years before Cicero, depending on their respective ages.
#360 to #353 - iamphoenix (09/28/2012) [-]
Elves can live much longer than 200 years.
User avatar #368 to #360 - nightmaren (09/28/2012) [-]
But they can't turn into Imperials.
#393 to #368 - joshuaww (09/28/2012) [-]
Not with that attitude.
#373 to #368 - iamphoenix (09/28/2012) [-]
I know that, I'm just saying that the age isn't a limiting factor.
i'm sorry i never played oblivion
User avatar #383 to #373 - nightmaren (09/28/2012) [-]
No problem. I don't know why everyone's thumbing you down.
User avatar #406 to #368 - FuNuTs (09/28/2012) [-]
Face changer... It would be easy to get rid of some pointy ears.
User avatar #407 to #406 - FuNuTs (09/28/2012) [-]
Or add them...
User avatar #357 to #353 - xenophaigus (09/28/2012) [-]
Not only that but the character played in Oblivion becomes Sheogorath. OS technically, when you meet Sheogorath in Skyrim, you are having a meeting with the character from oblivion
User avatar #365 to #357 - nightmaren (09/28/2012) [-]
With A** character from Oblivion.
The main character in Oblivion is the Champion of Cyrodiil. All he did was escape from prison, get the amulet of kings, **** with the Mythic Dawn, help Martin, and then save Nirn from Mehrunes Dagon, and possibly a good amount of the side quests.
It's not implied that the Champion of Cyrodiil also became the Gray Fox, the Listener, the Guildmaster of the Fighters Guild, the Archmage of the Mages guild, the champion of every Daedric Prince, a Knight of the Nine (I don't know the title, I haven't played through it yet), Sheogorath, and also completed every task that needed doing in Cyrodiil.
Canonically, every one of those titles is probably a different character. The Gray Fox couldn't also be the Listener, because one of the main 3 rules of the Thieves Guild is that you cannot kill anyone.
User avatar #374 to #365 - thegoodgatsby (09/28/2012) [-]
That rule only applies while you're on a Thieves Guild job, so it would be entirely possible for one person to hold all of those positions.
User avatar #389 to #374 - nightmaren (09/28/2012) [-]
Maybe it's possible, yeah, but I don't think its likely whatsoever.
Once you beat the game in Oblivion, everyone you talk to knows who you are, and talks about how grateful they are to you for saving the world. Maybe the Champion of Cyrodiil in the actual universe would be able to manage being the Guild Master of the Fighters guild or something, but there's no way he'd be able to manage every title in Cyrodiil at once.
User avatar #494 to #389 - thegoodgatsby (09/28/2012) [-]
Well, the only one that's secret once you complete every questline is the Dark Brotherhood, and you don't actually kill for them at that point, you just talk to a statue. I think it could be done. Besides, leading all those other guilds, who would suspect you?
User avatar #404 to #365 - FuNuTs (09/28/2012) [-]
You're wrong there. In Skyrim Sheogorath mentions a head (the severed head in TDB quests), a priest (Martin), and a Fox (the Grey Fox). It is implied that he was both they Grey Fox and the Listener before he became the Madgod.

And Shivering Isles is canon, so the Champion did become the Madgod. Besides the MQ, TBD, Thieves Guild, and the Shivering Isles, nothing else is confirmed. But those are confirmed.

Also, the Theives Guild rule was no killing on the job. While robbing someone, you can't just kill them.
User avatar #423 to #404 - nightmaren (09/28/2012) [-]
I don't remember him saying that they applied to him directly. He simply said he was there for it. As the Daedric prince of Madness, it's easy to imagine he'd be interested in the affairs of a league of corpse-worshipping assassins, and thieves ruled by a man with a mask. Not to mention, the Oblivion Crisis was the most notable event of that 400 year era, let alone the year the new Sheogorath was named
You could be right, but he never outright says "I helped a priest, I dealt with a severed head, and I became a fox" or anything like that.
He simply says he was there for those events.
User avatar #369 to #357 - thegoodgatsby (09/28/2012) [-]
Yeah, I really like that little easter egg. I definitely don't regret spending 20 extra dollars for the game of the year edition.
#370 to #353 - spidahridah (09/28/2012) [-]

It's a cool theory though.
User avatar #375 to #370 - thegoodgatsby (09/28/2012) [-]
Oh, definitely. If it wasn't for the ears, I probably would've believed it, too.
User avatar #377 to #375 - spidahridah (09/28/2012) [-]
And the fact that the Oblivion crisis took place 200 years before Skyrim.
#84 - indigobob (09/28/2012) [-]
> Skyrim is 200 years after Oblivion
> Adoring fan is an Elf
> Cicero is an Imperial
> Somewhere I have read that the journal entry is actually an easter egg because people were mostly so annoyed by the adoring fan they just went to the woods and killed him
> Tl;dr ******** .
User avatar #93 to #84 - Compootor (09/28/2012) [-]
I was just about to post this.
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User avatar #443 to #84 - condormcninja (09/28/2012) [-]
The book actually says what it says, but yeah it's just an easter egg/throwback joke, it's not canon or anything.
#101 to #84 - chuckbillrow ONLINE (09/28/2012) [-]
there have been an influx of holo picks in the comment sections as of late... I love it!

... i may also have something to do with it
User avatar #102 to #101 - chuckbillrow ONLINE (09/28/2012) [-]
User avatar #269 to #101 - awsomesauceboi (09/28/2012) [-]
what anime?
User avatar #272 to #269 - chuckbillrow ONLINE (09/28/2012) [-]
spice and wolf
#343 to #84 - sposadox (09/28/2012) [-]
Is that character from a show or something?
#351 to #84 - zionsype ONLINE (09/28/2012) [-]
1. Cicero could just be saying he's an imperial
2. He's a direct underling of the night mother and also an Elf, living for 200 years would be easy
#372 to #351 - indigobob (09/28/2012) [-]
> Cicero could just be saying he's an Imperial
You can tell the difference between an elf and a human, especially in Skyrim. I'm pretty sure Cicero isn't an elf.
> He's a direct underling of the night mother and also an Elf, living for 200 years would be easy
As I stated above, he is not an elf. And being a servant of Sithis doesn't actually extend one's life. If it did, would the Night Mother be physically dead? I don't think so.

Also, the comment officially made it to the top 80, it feels awesome. Thanks for thumbing, people.
#452 to #372 - bothemastaofall (09/28/2012) [-]
**bothemastaofall rolled a random image posted in comment #100 at You Just Served Yourself **Oblivion took place in 3rd era. That journal clearly states that he killed the champion in the 4th
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#90 to #84 - evilmonkeypl (09/28/2012) [-]
Also, the Champion is, as far as everyone knows, Sheogorath...
User avatar #99 to #90 - thedemonic (09/28/2012) [-]
you don't actually become a daedric prince, you just pose as sheogorath for sheogorath so you can banish jygallag from his realm
#110 to #99 - anon (09/28/2012) [-]
You actually become sheogorath, when you speak to him in skyrim he mentions that he was there during kvatch
User avatar #275 to #110 - sirgawain (09/28/2012) [-]
As well as the fact that the Sheogorath you succeeded was, y'know, Jygallag himself. And he makes the Champion of Cyrodill actually become the madgod.
User avatar #352 - aceofshadows (09/28/2012) [-]
But my adoring fan ran off of a mountain cliff.
#273 - therealredhood (09/28/2012) [-]
I'm pretty sure it's not the same person.
1) The Adoring Fan was a Wood Elf, while Cicero is an Imperial.
2) The journal entry is dated 4E 187. Oblivion takes place in 3E 433. Almost two centuries before Cicero was even born.
3) The Hero of Kvatch most likely is Sheogorath by the time of Skyrim.
#284 to #273 - Spikeydeath (09/28/2012) [-]
Elf's live a long time
User avatar #285 to #284 - therealredhood (09/28/2012) [-]
Yeah but it doesn't matter because Cicero is an Imperial.
#289 to #285 - Spikeydeath (09/28/2012) [-]
Very true, but my Character was an elf
it is possible ;D
User avatar #302 to #289 - therealredhood (09/28/2012) [-]
Indeed, but it's most likely a different Champion.
#341 to #302 - Spikeydeath (09/28/2012) [-]
impossible, i am an unbeatable elf
User avatar #166 - tealkangaroo ONLINE (09/28/2012) [-]
except those instances take place hundreds of years apart and they are different races of people
User avatar #168 to #166 - supamonkey (09/28/2012) [-]
Well, a trained assassin from the brotherhood would be able to disguise themselves effectively, but the difference in time between the two games does destroy OP's "fact".
User avatar #180 to #168 - cyanidesandvich (09/28/2012) [-]
in elderscrolls beings can live/ have lived beyond 200 Years.. though the race change doesn't cut it.
#95 - yologdog (09/28/2012) [-]
I liked the adoring fan.

I had him follow me around on quests and **** . I was devestated when he died. So devestated that I spent hours punching his lifeless body to my house.
He is now proped up against my house like a dead homeless guy.

I sometimes put food in his inventory and pretend like he is an old friend who turned homeless and I'm giving him a hand by feeding him But most of the time I just accept that he's dead and toss items I don't need at him for fun.

I miss my adoring fan...
#447 to #95 - machlah (09/28/2012) [-]
>i start new campaign
>gonna fight the giant ************ in Markarth
>Lydia is with me i let her take the beating while i use bow/arrow
>Lydia dies
>Sudden deep as **** depression
>i closed my computer, went in to the kitchen and started eating eggs and ****
>a week, later, havent even touched my gaming pc
>delete new campaign, play for like 10 hours on my ''main''
> still feel guilt, and its like 3 months ago
User avatar #137 to #95 - badgerclan (09/28/2012) [-]
I got a bunch of bones and rotten flesh from around Cyrodiil and dumped them in my basement in Skingrad. Then I lead him down there and murdered him and left the corpse. When he respawned sometime later I lead him down there again and killed him again. I did it several times, gotta wonder what the last ones were thinking as I told them to wait in my basement. Also my housekeeper lady must have thought I was a lunatic.
#420 - anon (09/28/2012) [-]
The adoring fan is an elf. Cicero is an Imperial.

Also, Cicero said he "ultimately" decided to pose as a fan in 4E 187. The adoring fan from Elder Scrolls 4 existed almost two centuries before that.

This is definitely not canonical affirmation that Cicero was the adoring fan. This is just a nod to the character.
#430 to #420 - mvtjets (09/28/2012) [-]
Well 			****		.............
Well **** .............
#386 - bronydorkarm (09/28/2012) [-]
Adoring fan-elf
User avatar #392 to #386 - Bion (09/28/2012) [-]
Tbh, the Adoring Fan could have been a failed assassination attempt. Seeing as Skyrim is also like 100 years into the future.
#397 to #392 - privatewaters (09/28/2012) [-]
It's 200 years in the future. YOU ASS!
User avatar #402 to #397 - Bion (09/28/2012) [-]
-like- 100 years. Close enough.

...I have shamed my people...
#378 - arrisarrad (09/28/2012) [-]
It's not the same guy. It's just a nod to the adoring fan. The original Adoring Fan was alive 200 years before Skyrim, Cicero is human. No human in The Elder Scrolls has lived that long.
It's not the same guy. It's just a nod to the adoring fan. The original Adoring Fan was alive 200 years before Skyrim, Cicero is human. No human in The Elder Scrolls has lived that long.
User avatar #403 to #378 - brokded (09/28/2012) [-]
there was one guy that was older than **** ... i dont remember his name but he was in the ruins of the library in the Shivering Isles.
User avatar #409 to #403 - swedishassassin ONLINE (09/28/2012) [-]
He technically lives in another realm of Oblivion which isn't following the rules on Nirn's plane
User avatar #412 to #409 - brokded (09/28/2012) [-]
sir, i take your point. however his comment did say no human in the Elder Scrolls, not just in the realm of mundus
User avatar #413 to #412 - swedishassassin ONLINE (09/28/2012) [-]
Ah, didn't read it right. I am glad to find someone who actually knows legit Elder Scrolls lore.
User avatar #419 to #413 - brokded (09/28/2012) [-]
Ditto my swedish friend.
User avatar #518 to #412 - arrisarrad (10/01/2012) [-]
You're right, I didn't take into account the mortals dwelling in other planes. Addendum! No human on Nirn has ever lived that long.
User avatar #411 to #378 - FuNuTs (09/28/2012) [-]
Human becomes vampire, human cures vampirism 200 years later. A human has just lived that long.
User avatar #451 to #411 - sinonyx (09/28/2012) [-]
k, now explain the change from elf to human
User avatar #503 to #451 - FuNuTs (09/29/2012) [-]
Face changer. Clip the ears and bleach the skin.
User avatar #517 to #411 - arrisarrad (10/01/2012) [-]
They've already shown in Oblivion that if a vampire has outlived the human life span and is cured, they die.
User avatar #520 to #517 - FuNuTs (10/02/2012) [-]
Well the cure in Skyrim is different. It might work. As might becoming a werewolf. Also, the vampires in Skyrim are a different breed than in Ceryodil.

To many ifs to prove anything.
User avatar #522 to #520 - arrisarrad (10/02/2012) [-]
Different clan, not a different breed. Their physiology is pretty similar.
User avatar #523 to #522 - FuNuTs (10/02/2012) [-]
None the less, the cure is different.

I think the vampirism in Oblivion is more of a affliction, while the one in Skyrim is more of a curse, judging by the cure.

If that's true, the curse would most likely preserve the flesh, making it so when the affliction is removed, the flesh would stay in the condition it was in before the turn. Sort of like how you can keep something in the freezer without it rotting a lot longer than you could if it was out in the open.
User avatar #524 to #523 - arrisarrad (10/02/2012) [-]
Actually, both strains have the same origin. Molag Bal's rape of a Nedic virgin. I think that it's just a difference in treatment method. Besides, there are no sciences on Nirn that don't involve magic in some way.
User avatar #525 to #524 - FuNuTs (10/02/2012) [-]
Meh, not enough information.
User avatar #526 to #525 - arrisarrad (10/02/2012) [-]
Agreed, altogether not enough information.
User avatar #379 to #378 - isus (09/28/2012) [-]
My thoughts exactly. This picture is misleading as **** .
#344 - messerschmidto ONLINE (09/28/2012) [-]
Adoring fan gone bad, you say?
#287 - risenn (09/28/2012) [-]
MFW "assain"
#306 to #287 - takesomemorewater (09/28/2012) [-]
Paint skills...
User avatar #428 - dustyshane (09/28/2012) [-]
It's more of an Easter egg/ reference type thing, he can't change his race or live 200 years.
#264 - ktulu (09/28/2012) [-]
The Champion Of Cyrodiil is Sheogorath mate.
User avatar #281 to #264 - thisotherdude (09/28/2012) [-]
In case anyone needs convincing:

"Except that Martin fellow, but he turned into a dragon god, and that's hardly sporting (you being there for the transformation of Martin at the end of the game). You know, I was there for that whole sordid affair. Marvelous times! Butterflies (the butterflies the room turns into at the beginning of the shivering isles), blood, a Fox (the grey fox), a severed head (that dark brotherhood quest where you find the mothers severed head)... Oh, and the cheese!"
#143 - zhon (09/28/2012) [-]
explaining this again... cicero is an imperial. imperials are human and supposedly live until they are about 80 years old. oblivion takes place 300 years prior to the events of skyrim. cicero is not the adoring fan and cannot be. checkmate.
User avatar #44 - adunsaveme (09/28/2012) [-]
Yeah never mind the fact that skyrim is 200 years after oblivion
User avatar #55 to #44 - pwnarn ONLINE (09/28/2012) [-]
He is a direct underling of the night mother and also an Elve..
Thus he has many reasons not to be dead, all races are not much alike humans at all.
User avatar #72 to #55 - adunsaveme (09/28/2012) [-]
But Cicero is an Imperial, not an elf.
User avatar #349 to #72 - zionsype ONLINE (09/28/2012) [-]
User avatar #63 to #55 - rbrim (09/28/2012) [-]
Thing is, though, Cicero is a High Elf.
The adoring fan was a Wood Elf.
User avatar #89 to #63 - aldheim (09/28/2012) [-]
How do you even get it that wrong?
User avatar #204 to #89 - rbrim (09/28/2012) [-]
It was three in the morning when I sent that and I was tired as hell. I dun goofed.
#64 to #63 - grenademan (09/28/2012) [-]
Cicero is an imperial bud...
User avatar #203 to #64 - rbrim (09/28/2012) [-]
It was roughly three in the morning and I was tired when I sent that. Wasn't thinking clearly.
#86 to #55 - anon (09/28/2012) [-]
elves live just as long as imperials and every other race in elder scrolls.
#88 to #86 - aldheim (09/28/2012) [-]
You are so very wrong.
User avatar #4 - rbrim (09/27/2012) [-]
Skyrim takes place 200 years after the events of Oblivion. Cicero posing as an annoying fan is just an Easter Egg/callback to Oblivion.
#253 - anon (09/28/2012) [-]
Oblivion happens in 3E 433, 4E 187 would be 187 years after the Champion of Cyrodill saved Tamriel from Oblivion.

While he still exists and is alive (Shimmering Isles), if that were the same champion as the Champion of Cyrodill, Cicero would be seriously messed up. (Considering he's a psychotic assassin, he may well have been.)
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