Punchline. credit to the creator.. AN AGE CM) AMERICAN ,.,. Sure beats other methods of torture, and it's non-lethal. it just really freaks people out. Punchline credit to the creator AN AGE CM) AMERICAN Sure beats other methods of torture and it's non-lethal it just really freaks people out
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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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User avatar #12 - Mahazama
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Sure beats other methods of torture, and it's non-lethal. it just really freaks people out.
User avatar #40 to #12 - yeorey
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If done incorrectly, death can be a likely factor when being water boarded.
#99 to #40 - Peirs
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If done incorrectly, rocking a baby to sleep can result in it sleeping forever.
#380 to #99 - personface
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this rustled my jimmies
this rustled my jimmies
#431 to #12 - anon id: f2f0c799
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>Claims that torture is okay.
>???
>Lots of green thumbs.

Way to go, Funnyjunk. It's because of reasons such as this that I choose not to bother getting an account.
User avatar #231 to #12 - masterboll
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it can leave people with:
-sleep deprivation
-nightmares
-flashbacks
-damaged muscles/bones from struggling
-the feeling of being suffocated even when safe

long term psychological effects are just as bad as getting bruises from being punched
User avatar #247 to #231 - Mahazama
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Let's weigh this one out.
1 sleep-deprived, PTSD'd man with obvious or alleged terrorist links
or
Almost 3,000 dead civilians?
User avatar #250 to #247 - masterboll
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the thing about human rights is that it applies to even the criminals

your comment is demonstrating exactly what the content is pointing out
User avatar #13 to #12 - anonythegame
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have you ever water boarded before? it feels like your ******* drowning
User avatar #14 to #13 - Mahazama
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Have you ever started drowning? it feels like you're ******* drowning.
User avatar #15 to #14 - anonythegame
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i have actually, twice
User avatar #16 to #15 - Mahazama
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Well what do you do for a living?
User avatar #17 to #16 - anonythegame
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i go to college,part time cook at a resturant
User avatar #19 to #17 - Mahazama
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I thought you were in the military or something. There's no reason for **** like that to happen to a burger-flipper.
User avatar #21 to #19 - anonythegame
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well heres how the second occurance happened the second time it happened i was having a lake party with ma friends on a boat,and we were doing jumps off the back of his boat.what happened was as i was jumping my leg got caught on the rope for the anchor,and i brought down the anchor with me...the rope got caught around my leg and i was underwater struggling to get the rope off my leg for like a minute.when i finally got it off i swam up to the surface of the lake for another 30 seconds...i almost died
User avatar #22 to #21 - Mahazama
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And how did you get waterboarded?
User avatar #23 to #22 - anonythegame
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for ***** and giggles at a party,you know just to see if it felt the same
#24 to #23 - orendil
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Also to include that the people they water-board are not innocent. They usually hold valuable information that could save anywhere from one to thousands of lives.
User avatar #26 to #24 - daburger
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Well, not always. That's the controversy over Gitmo is that the people inside have never been in court and under our law system they are technically guilty until proven. I'm fine with non-lethal torture, but as long it's on the right guys.
User avatar #220 to #26 - Mahazama
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I'd rather the CIA accidentally torture the wrong guy than have there be another 9/11 or 7/7, or any terrorist attack on the west for that matter.
User avatar #234 to #220 - teoferrazzi
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...this is America, gentlemen:
people begging for a police state while they brag about their freedom
User avatar #248 to #234 - Mahazama
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Aren't you just the cutest little rebel hippie.
Torturing Bin Laden's buddies doesn't make america a police state.
User avatar #564 to #248 - thelastamerican
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Torturing an innocent man does.
User avatar #496 to #248 - bible
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Try not to reason with these people.
User avatar #269 to #248 - teoferrazzi
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I take it your act in life is 'conservative' because you've been raised in a place that's liberal and this is your attempt at being different. either that, or these 'values' of yours have been passed on to you by your family. either way, it is clear you have put zero thought in what you have to say. I'm not interested in your transparent act; you don't have a solid opinion.
User avatar #565 to #269 - thelastamerican
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Let me reassure you that this is not the reasoning of a conservative person, rather the ramblings of a spineless pawn.
#271 to #269 - anon id: 9174298b
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That entire diatribe served no purpose to the argument in any way at all. Try proving some actual points and not just setting up useless strawmen.
User avatar #279 to #271 - teoferrazzi
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'torturing Bin Laden's buddies'
that sentence alone is exemplary enough of your ignorance; I took it from there.
I'm not interested in debating any further.
User avatar #379 to #279 - personface
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I initially agreed with you but then you had to be a dick. You guys both suck.
User avatar #289 to #220 - thelastamerican
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You would have your government torture an innocent man. (for any reason) You sicken me. No innocent man, regardless of reason, should be tortured just to make you sleep better at night. You are what is wrong with the country and the world today. Torture isn't a plaything to be used on a person just because you want some quick answers. Torture is a messy information gathering technique so far below us that there is absolutely no reason to physically torture anyone in American custody. A tortured man will tell you anything to make the pain stop. He might even believe it. If you want the truth and you are willing to torture to get it, then why not give them a shot of something as archaic as sodium pentothal then ask them what you want to know? A person doped up enough with any one of a range of drugs will tell you exactly what you want to know truthfully. But no, you would rather a man who never hurt a fly to be harmed just so that you can feel go about your daily affairs without worry.

Welcome all, to what we have become. A country of spineless, homophobic, mindless drones who will do anything to keep from having to worry about the future. Has there ever been an easier population to control?
User avatar #313 to #220 - rainbowrush
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Maybe you have some information we need. Lets torture you to find out.


I don't you have thought anything through, ever. Rethink everything, you are terribly misinformed and stupid.
#221 to #220 - anon id: 5da6919f
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i hope your family get rapped by the cia just so a ***** cunt like you can have a remote idea of what torture looks like
#100 to #17 - Peirs
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Martha, I'm gonna need some ketchu- GURGLEBLURGLE
#18 to #17 - anonythegame
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#71 to #13 - powerfapping
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That's the point
#215 - lordjask
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**lordjask rolled a random image posted in comment #55 at randy **
User avatar #395 - kimkve
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> post repost
> get frontpage
> people complain
> but it works
#454 - alchord
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Don't you understand? Whilst we all sit here arguing amongst ourselves the Reapers are coming straight for us, then it won't matter who bombed what and who is better. Whilst we sit here and fight Harbinger is only getting stronger. Now I don't care if you are American , Japanese, Quarian or Batarian. We are all together in our fight against the Reapers...because if we aren't, there won't be an Earth to come back to. None of it will matter if the Reapers win!
#462 to #454 - conorpadraic
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That's the best thing I've read here.
#515 to #454 - sircool
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brilliant
#537 to #454 - klondikemonster
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Commander, I want you to know that I'll be right there by your side through the end of this. Oh, and if you don't **** Tali, I will.
#378 - stratosrider
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(09/07/2012) [-]
MFW Spaniards are "Americans"
MFW Spaniards are "Americans"
#28 - lulzdealer
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taking indian land and killing them - Conquest. plain and simple. it might be viewed as horrible today, but it was entirely necessary.
Slavery - bad. one does not simply reduce a person to the rank of farm animal and not pay them.Nuking Japan - extremely necessary. the alternative would've been even MORE dead on both sides. they were given multiple chances to surrender, they refused.
Water Boarding - no ACTUAL harm comes to them, it just FEELS like they're drowning. besides, they're terrorists, "Human Rights" and other Geneva Convention laws do not apply.
User avatar #432 to #28 - glasgowrangers
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In America you used to have to be tried and found guilty before being punished

Basically all the "terrorists" have not been found guilty yet. You could easily be a "suspected terrorist" but i bet if they started doing it to you, you'd have a different opinion
User avatar #30 to #28 - herecomesjohnny
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****, using railgun to say that just rustles the last of my jimmies, too
User avatar #513 to #28 - vigilum
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Slavery is the base for modern human society.
Remove slavery from history, bam. No ancient Greek city-states, no ancient Greek philosophers, no great Roman Empire, etcetra.
Slavery is unnecessary now since we have machines that lets one person do a job that would take dozens of slaves to do, but pre-Industrial and early industrial era it was entirely neccessary to have a workforce capable of building things quickly.

Human Rights apply to everyone, no matter what. That's kinda the point of them. And waterboarding still causes psychological trauma.
Japan almost surrendered, but it wasn't exactly public negotiations due to potential Japanese people who would sympathize with the U.S. soldiers.
User avatar #552 to #513 - lulzdealer
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of course. i just assumed everyone was intelligent enough to deduce that. and for my response to the latter half of that comment, see comment number 31
User avatar #240 to #28 - Crusader
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The slaughter of the natives was not necessary.
And human rights surely do apply to terrorists, human rights, are as they sound, rights shared by all humans no matter what, the only reason they wouldn't be entitled to human rights would be if they were found guilty of war crimes, or crimes against humanity, and by their rights, they are innocent until proven guilty.
User avatar #553 to #240 - lulzdealer
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if we DIDN'T take indian land and kill them, we would not have the united states borders as we know it today. it's an unfortunate truth, and a necessary evil . i'll do the same i did for vigilum and refer you to comment 31 for my response to the latter part of your comment.
User avatar #560 to #553 - Crusader
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So you are saying that the USA as it is today was worth it?
User avatar #561 to #560 - lulzdealer
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absolutely
User avatar #79 to #28 - arsenymous
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you will always have a spot in my heart friend
#286 to #79 - anon id: ac84648d
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your friend's a thatcherian dick
User avatar #544 to #286 - arsenymous
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this is me giving a ****
User avatar #29 to #28 - herecomesjohnny
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human rights laws do not apply to terrorists? What the ****, man.

And most of them have been convicted without trial and without public release of evidence by a shady government agency.

And so making someone feel like they're drowning is not harm?
User avatar #63 to #29 - toosexyforyou
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Right well while you take the time to investigate all the terrorists, I think it'd be best we keep them in jail or maybe try and get them to give up information in the meantime.
User avatar #67 to #63 - herecomesjohnny
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but with a botched investigation you're not even sure the one you're torturing and that might end up hospitalized, since waterboarding isn't the only tool they got, might not even have anything to divulge. Are you TRYING to sound like a mob of torches and pitchforks?
User avatar #31 to #29 - lulzdealer
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good you were actually paying attention to what i was saying (that was not my actual opinion). and no, there can be no physical harm done without actual harm coming to them. just feeling like you're going to die doesn't count.
User avatar #32 to #31 - herecomesjohnny
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nice way to retract your opinion and thumb down, but if psychological oppression is lawful, for you?

you think an international judge might go 'lol, doesn't count'? It's psychological violence, like the USSR sleep deprivation torture.
User avatar #33 to #32 - lulzdealer
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first off, i didn't thumb you down. and again, sleep deprivation torture causes PHYSICAL harm, just look up the effects of not sleeping if you don't believe me. water boarding does not.
User avatar #36 to #33 - herecomesjohnny
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traumatic experiences can cause as much damage to the brain as any anatomical shock. Why the hell are you insisting this isn't illegal, what's your perspective that psychological torture and illegal detainment are perfectly fine in the eyes of the law if not in yours, dude?
Why do you think these activities have been held so long outside of U.S soil?
User avatar #37 to #36 - lulzdealer
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torture is a necessary evil. what would you suggest? asking them nicely what they've done to the decapitated and defiled bodies of the Americans they tortured and killed? holding in a cell for the rest of their days in hopes they'll finally talk?
User avatar #39 to #37 - herecomesjohnny
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so nazis deserve a trial and a due process of law, as advocated by truman, but suddenly when it's now all these values go out the window?

Besides, the thing is that your opinion doesn't matter, what you think doesn't matter, what matters is what the law says, and law says you can't do anything with 'besides, they're terrorists' as an excuse, especially when i bet you can't name a tenth of the people incarcerated
#104 to #39 - anon id: 4405758f
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Nice way to avoid the question. Now ******* answer it, what do you propose we do?
User avatar #232 to #104 - herecomesjohnny
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are you really suggesting terrorist investigation really entirely relies on torture? Way to give credit to the most fueled governmental investigation agency in the world
User avatar #42 to #39 - lulzdealer
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nazi's? **** no they didn't deserve all that "due process" crap. i realized my opinion doesn't hold up in the face of the law, no private citizen's views are significant at all to the government. and no, they typically don't release the names of incarcerated terrorists.
User avatar #44 to #42 - herecomesjohnny
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why not, they do in every other country, how can due process and freedom of information be so wrong? (although kim jong un might prove me wrong if he's reading this, idk)

but hey, keep thinking law academics are just being mean to you, by stopping you from being mean to others, poor you.
I think you're not gonna change your mind just with one thread, so good day.
User avatar #46 to #44 - lulzdealer
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yes, because making harm come to horrible people is just not a good thing to do at all.
#439 - HarvietheDinkle
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MFW "American"   
   
It's also a worldwide argument
MFW "American"

It's also a worldwide argument
User avatar #65 - mattdoggy
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1: Excuse me if i get nervous around the guys scalping, dismembering, and sacrificing each other. I think i'll sit on my hands while they get enough people together to overpower me.
2: Sorry i buy some slaves from these people who live in mud huts who enslave their neighbors and owned slaves themselves. Even though everywhere else in the world had forms of slavery we really do deserve the blame.
3: My apologies if we didn't want to invade a bunch of people who were trained to fight to the last man woman and child or kill themselves before capture. We just had the crazy idea that killing a few was better than killing all of them.
4: Our bad, we just thought that those guys who tortured, raped, and killed there own kind and wanted to use incredibly deadly weapons against the whole world should maybe give us some answers. Guess we should have just kept saying please and maybe he would have told us eventually.
User avatar #438 to #65 - glasgowrangers
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then why aren't they tried before torture?
#277 to #65 - lankyman
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1: really?! are you saying that since they scalp, dismember and sacrifice each other then yep! good riddance to the millions of natives we enslaved to mine our silver, stole land from, massacred and infected with terrible diseases, yes they weren't exactly the Na'vi but it was out steel on their land .

2. Im not too sure if the artist specifically meant "America"as a whole, only the South, and yes again, the Africans were enslaving themselves and selling their own kind. But the lucrative trade opportunities of European slave peddlers is lucrative indeed. And it was those slave drivers that ferried off innocent people like cattle to be seperated from not only their families but there identity and country And mud huts? Sweeping generalization about an entire continent of people.

(this was not supposed to start some kind of lame internet fight, I was just a bit peeved with the first 2, the others, yeah pretty much agree, again, this cartoon is a bit irritatingly judgmental of the entire American history, but I dont think you should defend colonization of the Americas or slavery, even if its along the line of argument of this cartoon.)
User avatar #445 to #277 - mattdoggy
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lol i didn't actually meant what i said to be taken literally. I was just posting something to make it seem like all that bad stuff was justified or not or fault. So no jimmies rustled here friend
#566 to #445 - lankyman
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my jimmies will never EVER be rustled by the likes of you dear friend
User avatar #326 - thereasonableperso
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1st columbus was not american he was italian and was killing indians long before america existed
2nd we werent the only pnes using slaves
3rd i explain this in comment 324
4th no excuse
User avatar #364 to #326 - zhon
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wait, you find torture less acceptable than developing nuclear weapons?
User avatar #434 to #326 - pinacleofevolution
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if America didn't exist then what did he discover? And where did the indians live?
User avatar #492 to #434 - thepyras
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I thumbed you back to 0 because I'm pretty sure you're joking. Please don't prove me wrong.
User avatar #536 to #492 - pinacleofevolution
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yeah I was joking, thanks
User avatar #435 to #326 - glasgowrangers
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we're not the only ones using torture either


I'm anti torture, was just saying how can you use it for one and not the other?
#360 to #326 - shinymario
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^ This. Thumbs for you incoming.
^ This. Thumbs for you incoming.
#150 - narutohaukea
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