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User avatar #208 - appleboom (09/06/2012) [-]
Name one country that teaches diplomacy in the schools, and then forces you into the military? I'd actually like to know.
#219 to #208 - kingpongthedon (09/06/2012) [-]
According to Wikipedia (which you should use whenever you have a question), there are close to 30 countries with compulsory service, including many developed countries. Even Switzerland has compulsory service.
User avatar #227 to #219 - appleboom (09/06/2012) [-]
Thank you for the information!
#211 to #208 - txikaze (09/06/2012) [-]
America up until the draft was removed...
User avatar #216 to #211 - appleboom (09/06/2012) [-]
That was about 50 years ago, though. If America were the same as 50 years ago, blacks would still be getting lynched and we'd have a thriving middle class.

Also, no video games!
User avatar #247 to #216 - sirdaddysir (09/06/2012) [-]
A more comprehensive version of 'the draft' was enacted this year, to include personal property, and food and water resources, along with conscript slaves and soldiers. “National Defense Resources Preparedness” Executive Order (which means Congress didn't vote on it, and it can't be judged unconstitutional by the Supreme Court like other laws).

Just for clarity on the draft discussion.
User avatar #250 to #247 - appleboom (09/06/2012) [-]
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ndrp.asp
User avatar #254 to #250 - sirdaddysir (09/06/2012) [-]
A more comprehensive version of the draft was enacted this year, building from a version that has been around since the 70s, which does all things I mentioned and can even be activated in peacetime.
User avatar #270 to #254 - appleboom (09/07/2012) [-]
We also have the patriot act and Obama just signed a bill into law last December that lets the Government imprison American citizens indefinitely without trial.

Hopefully nothing comes of all this.
#221 to #216 - txikaze (09/06/2012) [-]
Dafuq you talking about? Hate crimes still happen lol. Just because the media doesn't cover it all the time doesn't mean it doesn't happen. You can't just say "well because the draft ended 50 years ago, I'm only going to focus on that period of time." You have to look back when we had a draft and sent our soldiers fresh from school to the worst war this planet has ever seen.
User avatar #225 to #221 - appleboom (09/06/2012) [-]
My point wasn't that hate crimes don't happen, it's that civil rights were a lot worse.

And Vietnam is the worst war in history? Look up what happened in WWI, or Vlad the Impaler, or what the British Empire used to do to insurrections it won against.
#235 to #225 - txikaze (09/06/2012) [-]
I didn't mean the worst war in the sense of the "extremes" in the way people were killed but by the numbers. Going from the education system that's taught you pacifism and to help your fellow race straight into a war surrounding genocide where over 100,000 American troops alone were killed (and think of how short our time was in the war compared to other countries)
User avatar #242 to #235 - appleboom (09/06/2012) [-]
Well if you want to go by the numbers, WW2 beats out Vietnam.

And I don't exactly understand the second sentence.
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