Science and religion. Im still kinda new here. I love penn and teller . There is no out and than we simile truth. It even! trace of any sink relgion were mined  Science and religion Im still kinda new here I love penn teller There is no out than we simile truth It even! trace of any sink relgion were mined
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Science and religion. Im still kinda new here. I love penn and teller . There is no out and than we simile truth. It even! trace of any sink relgion were mined

Im still kinda new here. I love penn and teller

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#32 - luismamontes
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(07/09/2012) [-]
I came to funnyjunk for some laughs. **** me right?
#489 to #32 - budbrown
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(07/09/2012) [-]
thanks for creating some
#529 to #32 - anon
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(07/09/2012) [-]
Welcome to the club bro
Welcome to the club bro
#173 to #32 - gytisout
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(07/09/2012) [-]
Yup
#218 - MitsukiOokami
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(07/09/2012) [-]
Fundamentally, what everyone needs to do is shut up and leave everyone to their beliefs. Theists believe what they want to believe, atheists believe what they want to. Can we not shove our own beliefs in each other's faces?
#232 to #218 - ipunchinfants
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(07/09/2012) [-]
I love you for this.
#1005 to #232 - MitsukiOokami
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(07/10/2012) [-]
I'm flattered. Have fun punching those infants by the way, ipunchinfants.
#73 - ganjalf ONLINE
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(07/09/2012) [-]
They said it was impossible, but at last I managed to fap to this.
They said it was impossible, but at last I managed to fap to this.
#347 - deathbypenis **User deleted account**
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#367 to #347 - themadnessuncaring
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(07/09/2012) [-]
No, it's a bit more like trying to convince an alarmingly large part of humanity who happens to believe that the sky is green that it actually is blue by shoving evidence down their throats in the hope that some of it will stick.
#785 to #367 - anon
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(07/09/2012) [-]
lol, no
#373 to #367 - deathbypenis **User deleted account**
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#388 to #373 - themadnessuncaring
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(07/09/2012) [-]
It's quite alright not to care - until someone important, like the head of government, has to make a decision based either on science or belief in God. For example, if all Christians in the US are convinced that any non-Christian is a sinner to either be ostracised or stoned, ie in accordance with certain parts of the Bible, and they urge for a law-reform to legalise this, THEN it matters whether you believe in fact or fiction.
#465 to #388 - condormcninja
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(07/09/2012) [-]
I have no clue what you're trying to say here, but non-crazy Christians don't believe that only non-Christians are sinners, but that everyone is flawed and a sinner, and are more or less equal in God's eyes.
#682 - FelipeRuiz
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#749 to #682 - noonecares
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#689 to #682 - winwar
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(07/09/2012) [-]
spoder pls
#690 to #682 - narlydude
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#326 - lurkindeeznuts
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(07/09/2012) [-]
Atheists have become the mormons of the ******* internet. Every single religious post I EVER see is an atheist post. "Hurr durr christians r stupid SCIENCE IS EVERYTHING" We get it. You don't approve of religion. No need to post it all over the ******* place because you think you're smarter than the rest of us. You're the one shoving your beliefs down our throats, Douchebags.
#87 - anon
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(07/09/2012) [-]
This is most likely going to get -100000 thumbs, but oh well...it NEEDS to be said.

Atheists, you're just as bad as Christians.
You both are exactly the same when it comes to "cramming your beliefs down peoples throats".
Every atheist I ever met is always a huge dick to people with any form of spiritual beliefs. You look down at them like they're ******* idiots.

I know, not all atheists are like that, and not all Christians are crazy disciples either. But I mean, we've been bickering so much about this that we've forgotten what's important, living life to the fullest.
#88 to #87 - daboomee
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(07/09/2012) [-]
lobsters for you, anon!
lobsters for you, anon!
#90 to #87 - anon
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(07/09/2012) [-]
Atheism is not a "belief". It's a way of thinking by using facts. Believing in supernatural slows down the evolution of human. If you replace ignorance with belief you'll never progress.

Pretty simple. Why would an atheist argue about the matter if it had no effect on human kind?
#506 to #90 - spacelubber
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(07/09/2012) [-]
Atheism is merely the disbelief in the existence of God. Nothing more, nothing less. Atheism is NOT trusting in science. Atheism is NOT intelligence. Being an Atheist does NOT mean you use facts to make decisions. The one and only thing that the term Atheist defines a person as is "one without God".

Now, I will admit that many Atheists may also be intelligent, trust in science, and use facts to make decisions, but that isn't relevant to being an Atheist. That's being a scientist, a learned individual, or a rational being.
#815 to #506 - squillium
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(07/09/2012) [-]
You are probably the most intelligent person I have seen on FJ in my life, you give me hope...
#300 to #90 - Shinehammer **User deleted account**
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#302 to #90 - zombiebacon ONLINE
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(07/09/2012) [-]
I'm more than likely going to get a sea of red thumbs for saying this, but here goes.
Atheism is a belief. The very definition of the word is the belief that there is no god.
No one can say for certain that there is a god or that there is no god. Anyone who does is simply wrong.
I know some people will say that because of science, we can prove that this theory is right or wrong. Well you can't. Science can't prove theories simply because we don't know everything. Science supports theories, or refutes them, it doesn't prove or disprove them. Evolution is a theory, but we have all this evidence to support it. The Big Bang is a theory. Creationism is a theory. Primordial Soup is a theory. We can't prove that they're true or false, but we can use evidence to say that it's probably right or wrong.
But to be honest. We're both being idiots here by arguing about this. I respect your ideas, but I don't agree.
#793 to #302 - anon
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(07/09/2012) [-]
Atheism is by definition NOT a belief. To make it very simple: Christians believe in a magical man in the sky, and Atheists simply say that that's nonsense.
"Atheism is the rejection of belief in the existence of deities."

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#779 to #302 - anon
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(07/09/2012) [-]
More accurately, it would be the disbelief in a God. A disbelief cannot be counted as a belief, that's just an issue with definition.
#103 to #90 - anon
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Atheism is a belief like everything else. The only difference is, that atheists are more open to empiric assumptions. In the end both, atheists and religious people, can't really prove a ******* thing.
#119 to #103 - thelastcook
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(07/09/2012) [-]
It is not a belief. As atheist you do not 'believe' in science, who accept it as a fact. In any religion you do not now that a god, you do not have any proof like in science, that's why it is called 'a belief'
#202 to #119 - anon
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(07/09/2012) [-]
Dumbass.

dictionary (dot) reference (dot) com/browse/atheism?s=t
#183 to #119 - anon
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(07/09/2012) [-]
But it is nevertheless something you just believe. Christians accept their stuff also as a fact. What real proof do you have? It's sick, atheits and theists are so dogmatic.
#137 to #119 - anon
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(07/09/2012) [-]
Atheism is a rejection of any beliefs, but do not say that there is any fact in religion, because their isn't.

You can't prove something doesn't exist, so anyone who rejects god or any other deity should label themselves Agnostic because you can not know for a fact either way.


#117 to #103 - anon
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(07/09/2012) [-]
Maybe thats because religious people choose to ignore the proof presented, be it scientific proof, or what i would like to call the absence of a god or deity...

If someday some kind of god were to come down from where ever he would be and started preaching and actually changing the world and ridding it of wickedness and evil i wouldnt be ashamed to admit i was wrong and ultimatly convert...

But thats not the case, take christianity for example, all humans are gods children, they why does he allow people to die in accidents, murder, starvation, diseases, wars etc etc etc..

If there was a god of any sort, he would have to react to the state the world is in, but yet it only gets worse and worse, but please go ahead and prove me wrong...

I mean if it turns out there is a heaven then sweet, but its just a way of getting people to behave in older times, making them fear the evil of the devil and hell, when there wasnt science and physics to explain things, and societies were falling apart from crimes..
#454 to #117 - condormcninja
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(07/09/2012) [-]
Not trying to correct you or anything, but some people believe that God (or a god) created the world, and then let it all play out, only stepping in sometimes.
#120 to #117 - thelastcook
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(07/09/2012) [-]
He is right you know
#123 to #120 - anon
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(07/09/2012) [-]
Thank you for supporting what i believe in my friend
#132 to #117 - vleasian
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(07/09/2012) [-]
reason why he doesn't react is the whole free will stuff.
I'm a Christian, but I'm going to lay out everything as bluntly as I can without affecting opinions.
The whole free will deal is that you can do whatever you want on earth, but judgement is where he takes action.
But anyways, there are some Christians, myself included, who are looking into a theory of everything that can prove both religion and science at the same time.
Hard work, but it could possibly end the conflicts.
#156 to #132 - blahness
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#200 to #156 - vleasian
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(07/09/2012) [-]
Human envy and greed is the source of almost all violence...
#312 to #156 - zombiebacon ONLINE
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(07/09/2012) [-]
It's like a father leaving his child alone in the house while he's gone. He trusts that the child will do the right thing, but it's up to the child to decide. If the child misuses that freedom, the father punishes the child, but if the child does good things, he is rewarded.
You could also say that he rewards you for overcoming temptation and greed.
#842 to #312 - anon
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(07/09/2012) [-]
And then he punishes the child for ALL ETERNITY in everlasting, painful, fiery hell of torture when he finds out the kid didn't believe he was coming home or knocked over a potted plant. No second chances and no redemption one the father is home.
The child protective services would ram a father's door down and shoot him with the intent to kill if he had policies like that.
#831 to #132 - anon
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(07/09/2012) [-]
Free will is not possible in the Christian belief system. God has a plan for everything. You cannot deviate from this plan. The end will always be the same. Free will cannot exist. If the end result is always the same, if the God has predetermined the person will go to hell, they will go to hell. There is no possibility of heaven because the God has determined it. Same with beginnings. God has determined you will be born in a Nazi concentration camp. They do not let you kill yourself, choose between food or no food, choose between work and sleep. You ultimately die and had no free will even for your death.

If you decide to get rid of the plan part entirely (if the end or beginning is the same, there cannot be free will), then you might have an argument.
#135 to #132 - anon
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(07/09/2012) [-]
So because of free will, it is ok to live a full life, raping, murdering, stealing and even torture other people for a whole lifetime?

You know what hitler, we are cool brah, its gods fault for giving you free will man, dont sweat it...
#136 to #135 - vleasian
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(07/09/2012) [-]
Well, with that point, people who live such lives would be sent to the darkest depths of hell. At least according to what we believe in. A good number of us believe that heaven and hell aren't a place, but a state of mind that happens to be granted when we die. Who knows for sure? Dead people.
#93 to #87 - thelastcook
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(07/09/2012) [-]
maybe because they from an atheist point of view, all religious people act like idiots..
#108 to #93 - neokun ONLINE
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(07/09/2012) [-]
Im Christian, and I have NEVER brought up anything Christian related to my friends, whilst them on the other hand always have a go at the fact that I believe in a god. Am I still an idiot?
#115 to #108 - thelastcook
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(07/09/2012) [-]
Yes, very much. And do you know why? Because you belie that there is an invisible man in the sky who control the universe. That's why. But as long as the invisible man loves you, what do you care about my opinion.
#129 to #115 - ruinsage
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(07/09/2012) [-]
i usually take the sides of atheists in these matters

but damn you are an arrogant prick
#127 to #115 - neokun ONLINE
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(07/09/2012) [-]
You bring the whole idea of christianity and dumb it down. We do not believe he is in the sky. We also dont believe he is invisible.

Just cause your athiest you think of yourself as a ******* genius compared to me. **** you.
#130 to #127 - thelastcook
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(07/09/2012) [-]
I do not think of myself as a genius, just rational
#197 to #130 - anon
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(07/09/2012) [-]
then draw right conclusions.
#167 to #87 - anon
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(07/09/2012) [-]
show me an athiest group who goes around knocking on random peoples doors asking if people would like to hear about massive explosions in nothing that created everything as we know it today. you can't do that? thought so.
#589 to #167 - condormcninja
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(07/09/2012) [-]
I can't show you that, but I can show you many examples on this very page of Atheists being assholes who don't accept that other people will believe what they want to believe and they can't do anything about it.
#252 to #87 - anon
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(07/09/2012) [-]
There is no way to prove the existence or non existence of a God. It's not possible. Do you know why? BECAUSE HE'S A ******* GOD. Atheists can't prove a ******* thing either. The Big Bang theory? That's your hardcore factual evidence? That doesn't prove a damn thing. I'm not entirely sure a God exists and no one can be. People believe in their religions for comfort and for a way of living.
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#12 - DoctorWaffless
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(07/09/2012) [-]
Quick take the opinion OF A MAGICIAN seriously
#49 to #12 - msvegeta
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(07/09/2012) [-]
Being a magician doesn't mean he believes in magic. It's all illusions for entertainment. Who knows, he could have other credentials. And who he his doesn't affect the validity of his point. Attacking him instead of his argument is a logical fallacy called ad hominem.
#339 - icefried
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(07/09/2012) [-]
k.
#361 to #339 - phoenixflamea
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(07/09/2012) [-]
That's my bike
#362 to #339 - yonyon
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#363 to #339 - yonyon
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(07/09/2012) [-]
Me to *girl 1* -> Hey, *girl 2* told Jessica you look like you've gained a few pounds.
#372 to #339 - anon
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(07/09/2012) [-]
Hi. I am anonymous and can still provide a well constructed argument.
#390 to #339 - thehornedking
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(07/09/2012) [-]
I'm a white, straight, conservative, christian male who has a job.
#992 to #339 - hauntzor
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(07/09/2012) [-]
The PS3 has no games.
#396 to #339 - hauntzor
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(07/09/2012) [-]
Zelda is a stupid game series.
#358 to #339 - ColorfulPenguin ONLINE
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(07/09/2012) [-]
KFC is overrated.
#474 to #358 - condormcninja
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(07/09/2012) [-]
YOU ******* SON OF A BITCH WHORE