Superman loses.. dont look at the tags. Superman peaks his hit around loo tons loo tons = 101000 kg = 220, lbs An average person can hit 40% An average person w
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Superman loses.

dont look at the tags

Superman peaks his hit around loo tons
loo tons = 101000 kg = 220, lbs
An average person can hit 40%
An average person weighs % ifthat is
100, 000/ 32 = 3125, meaning superman can lift 3125 times
the average man
Now. Raditz scanned a human and his
power level was 5'?
Well, Superman' s PL is 3125x5. which is 15625
Gem. when training with Kai. reached using
When using , he reached around
Goku wins. Science proves it.
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User avatar #836 - ScottP (07/06/2013) [-]
Alas, you fail to deduce in your argument that the limits of both Goku's and Superman's powers solely depend on who was writing the story that day.
#835 - anonymous (02/18/2013) [-]
I always thought goku could just teleport superman to a solar system with a red sun.

Doesn't that **** superman up?
#833 - modernparkour (11/08/2012) [-]
hey vegito1089 has it wrong, when frieza was in his second form that killed krillin he said he had a power level of one million by the time he hit his final form i estimated a power of about 2 million which he later said that he was at 1% of his full power so that'd be 200 million with goku at super saiyan when he was considered very weak in comparison to the later sagas, in the other world tournament saga king kai says that a super saiyan transformation times his power by 7, so forgetting the training he did over the years if you times the 200 million by 7 you'd get 1.4 billion and you would probably just double that so its adding on another ssj transformation which would make it 2.8 billion and plus another ssj transformation which would make it 4.2 billion at ssj 4 without training

based upon how much stronger vegeta got when he got to namek from when he was on earth it makes you 5.5% stronger after gokus recovery during the namek saga he wouldve had a power of roughly 25020, so you minus that from the 180k he had during his fight with ginyu and he had a power increase of about 155k in 6 days, so you can imagine the power he would have after a few years
User avatar #832 - yuudaihorum (10/17/2012) [-]
Hey what's going on over here.
User avatar #828 - fuckenjordster (09/05/2012) [-]
You've done it all wrong. The answer is correct. But you have made some fatal errors. The average human power level is 1 (The man Raditz scanned was holding a shotgun) Also Superman can lift a lot more that that! Do your research. When worked out properly it turns out that Superman's power level is 72. Goku's power level has shown to max at over 10 Million when SS4.
#830 to #828 - nlreturns ONLINE (09/06/2012) [-]
cool story man, but why do you come to such old content?
User avatar #831 to #830 - fuckenjordster (09/07/2012) [-]
I found it and decided to comment. Problem?
User avatar #822 - buttershaker (07/10/2012) [-]
<<" i did my research and solved the question once and for all. quick facts that prove everything. In one of the first Dragonball Z series Raditz visits earth. He scans the power level of a normal man which was 5 Power lever. Lets call it PL (Raditz had the PL of 1200 then) After some research superman speaks his lift at around 100 tons=200000 pounds. A average human can lift around 40% of his bodyweight as max (straight up in the air while standing) An average person weighs 176 pounds. So if you do the math superman can lift 3125 times more then a normal person= strength of 3125 men. Remember 1 average person had PL of 5. Supermans PL is 15625. In conclusion Goku could beat superman after the training with king kai (the blue fat guy that lived on the planet with super gravity in heaven) After that Goku could reach 16000 PL with kaioken x2 (because in america it says over 9000 but that was a translation error because in japan it was supposed to be over 8000) In the In the episode "over 9000 (remember it was supposed to be 8000) he could reach a power level of 32000 when he used his kaiokenx4. but he only needed kaioken x2 to reach 16000 which is higher then supermans PL and he could easily beat superman.">>

Not mine, dedz to chosenonex
#821 - anonymous (07/10/2012) [-]
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User avatar #817 - spearpwi (07/09/2012) [-]
So the hulk once lift a 150 billion ton mountain. Using the same math as this 4chon guy. 150,000,000,000,000kg, /32 = 4,687,500,000,000. That times 5 makes The Hulks power level about 23,437,500,000,000. **** just got real.
User avatar #827 to #817 - tonychingchong (09/05/2012) [-]
do you know what goku's power level at ss4 is?
User avatar #829 to #827 - spearpwi (09/06/2012) [-]
Maybe, but I haven't taken into account that time that he destroyed a sun.
#761 - lethargick (07/06/2012) [-]
I'll handle this
#752 - anonymous (07/06/2012) [-]
Well no, because you are multiplying by 5. Although that is only for an average person, not superman. Also Maths proves it*
#756 to #752 - anonymous (07/06/2012) [-]
my point was, the weaker the normal person is = the higher supermans pl get... dont answer Qs if you dont know wth you are talking about...

and yes, the normal person can lift more than ******* 34 kgs. but that would make supermans pl lower, so this isnt exact science, but either way, Goku would be stronger
#751 - anonymous (07/06/2012) [-]
nvm my prev post lol... that would actually make supermans pl lower xD
#749 - anonymous (07/06/2012) [-]
wrong...
my weight is around 80 kg, im a normal person, not a strongman. i can easily lift 100kg+
34 kg... a child could lift that = this isnt science, this is bs...
#793 to #749 - anonymous (07/06/2012) [-]
When He says a normal person he means a person at a normal weight and an individual without training
User avatar #760 to #749 - lenewguy (07/06/2012) [-]
You must pull so much vag.
#746 - empithree (07/06/2012) [-]
i can't compare...
#740 - norwegiandude (07/06/2012) [-]
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<-- mfw I see that battle!!!
User avatar #757 to #740 - serenitypanda (07/06/2012) [-]
what the heck is this from?
i want to find it and watch it now.
#735 - anonymous (07/06/2012) [-]
superman isn't human tho, he's a kryptonian o.o
#742 to #735 - anonymous (07/06/2012) [-]
Neither is Goku, he's a saiyin.
User avatar #734 - anticswithmydogz (07/06/2012) [-]
But you're not thinking, Superman has hidden strenghts that he dare not tap into, at risk of destroying earth. So technically, we have no idea if your measurments are correct.

Superman:11234
Goku:11234 1/2
User avatar #758 to #734 - Kainim (07/06/2012) [-]
that's the giant problem with superman, whenever someone proposes a match up, there's some kind of deus ex machina that makes superman win, for instance if you make him match up with hulk, hulk will win strengthwise, and lasereyes wont help him either, but still in every comicbook they fight superman wins, cause he stands for "good".

people also keep saying that hulk can't scratch superman cause only kryptonite harms him, but really.... goku wins from superman, no doubt, even with so called hidden powers, goku could destroy galaxies, not sure if superman can/would.
User avatar #787 to #758 - metajunky (07/06/2012) [-]
that is ********

superman has shown greater feats of strength than hulk. for hulk to get on supermans level, and he can, it would take a great deal of time getting angry and what not just to be even with him in strength. superman has access to his enormous strength at the start

superman is also much faster than hulk. this is faster than light we are talking about. superman would blitz hulk before he knew what was happening. then you got his array of other superpowers and a genius level intellegence to come up with plans tio defeat hulk with them

what you were referring to is called plot induced stupidity on the obd (they debate fictional fights all the time for fun). that is normally ignored when these fights come up. read up on superman he does not really need pis that much (although it helped him in the past like every other fictional character has). and if you are talking about pre crisis superman, well, that guy IS pis in a living embodiment
#763 to #758 - eiaisqzbsesb ONLINE (07/06/2012) [-]
Actualy, goku is far from destroying any galaxies, atleast in one attack.   
   
Assuming the earth requires a power level of 10 000 to destroy (A very likely number since it would mean the moon would need about 123 to be destroyed, which is somewhere around the same power level Roshi had when he first did this).   
   
That would mean that our sun needs about 3,329,000,000 to be destroyed. This is (ROUGHLY) 30% of  Cell's power level after he blew up and absorbed goku's cells.   
   
VY Canis Majoris, the largest star we have so far discovered would need 133,180,000,000. This is (ROUGHLY) half of Super Saiyan Gotenks.   
   
And finaly, an average galaxy needs 193,111,000,000,000,000,000.   
   
Now the highest point of power reached in the entire series was Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta. Their power level was 1,922,760,000,000,000,000   
   
And if we only look at goku, his most powerfull shown moment without aid was when he had pushed himself far beyond his limits and used his dragon fist on omega shenron, resulting in an attack with 32,837,500,000,000,000.   
   
This is, ofcourse all based on Vegito1089's power level calculator, which is based on feats and math using average (saiyan) training growth/time spent training.   
   
TLDR; Math proves goku can't destroy a galaxy in one blow.   
   
Still, goku would whip Superman's ass if they ever found a reason to fight eachother.
Actualy, goku is far from destroying any galaxies, atleast in one attack.

Assuming the earth requires a power level of 10 000 to destroy (A very likely number since it would mean the moon would need about 123 to be destroyed, which is somewhere around the same power level Roshi had when he first did this).

That would mean that our sun needs about 3,329,000,000 to be destroyed. This is (ROUGHLY) 30% of Cell's power level after he blew up and absorbed goku's cells.

VY Canis Majoris, the largest star we have so far discovered would need 133,180,000,000. This is (ROUGHLY) half of Super Saiyan Gotenks.

And finaly, an average galaxy needs 193,111,000,000,000,000,000.

Now the highest point of power reached in the entire series was Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta. Their power level was 1,922,760,000,000,000,000

And if we only look at goku, his most powerfull shown moment without aid was when he had pushed himself far beyond his limits and used his dragon fist on omega shenron, resulting in an attack with 32,837,500,000,000,000.

This is, ofcourse all based on Vegito1089's power level calculator, which is based on feats and math using average (saiyan) training growth/time spent training.

TLDR; Math proves goku can't destroy a galaxy in one blow.

Still, goku would whip Superman's ass if they ever found a reason to fight eachother.
#772 to #763 - thefoxin (07/06/2012) [-]
I do adore this, that you went to extreme lengths to disprove it. But power levels are also fictional and don't represent anything, well, hardly. Whether or not Goku could destroy a galaxy is undetermined, but nevertheless, your DBZ logic has far surpassed any other fans'.
#780 to #772 - eiaisqzbsesb ONLINE (07/06/2012) [-]
Actualy, not my logic but thank you. All of this based on Vegito1089's videos, all cred goes to him.
User avatar #764 to #763 - Kainim (07/06/2012) [-]
I wasn't implying in one blow, but I like your math, thanks ^^
#729 - terrorrizor (07/06/2012) [-]
Hey when you think about it Goku can win easily. Because once you can SSJ Golden Monkey or whatever and control it you can become SSJ 4 at will very easily. So Goku could become SSJ 4 grab Superman, instant transmission into a dark abyss (because superman will run out of energy without the sun) or into a pit of kryptonite and easily defeat him.
Pic translation: Number of ressurections
Ah blasphemy... I ****** lol'd
#773 to #729 - thefoxin (07/06/2012) [-]
Kenny: youlose.
User avatar #731 to #729 - anticswithmydogz (07/06/2012) [-]
The Doctor: 11
#732 to #731 - terrorrizor (07/06/2012) [-]
Dr. Acula?
#733 to #732 - terrorrizor (07/06/2012) [-]
Lol Vampires
#738 to #736 - terrorrizor (07/06/2012) [-]
****** haz ay sadz nao.
>can't green text
>dinosaurs extinct
>can't do the dinosaur
#720 - cactussman (07/06/2012) [-]
well here
http:// dc. wikia. com /wiki/Strength_Scale
it says superman can lift as much as 100000 tonnes not just 100
but again there can be other opinions
(pic from my superman vs goku list)
#726 to #720 - terrorrizor (07/06/2012) [-]
I never got why he can breath in space. Anyway, whoever made that clearly forgot about Goku's ability to use instant transmission. And he's dead lol.
User avatar #748 to #726 - porkchips (07/06/2012) [-]
Actually Saiyans are also able to breathe in space. Bardock flew into space to try and kill Frieza, and also Vegeta and Nappa destroyed a planet while outside of their space pods.
#754 to #748 - terrorrizor (07/06/2012) [-]
You're right! I forgot about that. ****** Broly wouldn't die! It made me angry lol.
User avatar #728 to #726 - cactussman (07/06/2012) [-]
thats always the argument i get after that pic
#730 to #728 - terrorrizor (07/06/2012) [-]
Lol wait the breathing one or the instant transmission one? Or both?
#714 - anonymous (07/06/2012) [-]
bitch i literally rip creation apart at the seams.
User avatar #759 to #714 - Kainim (07/06/2012) [-]
what's the name of this anime?
#723 to #714 - anonymous (07/06/2012) [-]
Mother ******* Enuma Elish. Though I don't think Enkidu would work on binding Goku or Superman since they aren't divine beings.
#711 - killercondom (07/06/2012) [-]
aw the old goku vs superman argument
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