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#37 - hoshasei (06/22/2012) [-]
Technically a tomato is both a fruit 'and' a vegetable.
If you look fruit and vegetable up in the dictionary or wikipedia you'll find that they aren't mutually exclusive.
While fruit is a scientific term, the word vegetable is culinary and completely subjective to opinion
User avatar #40 to #37 - iRetaliate (06/22/2012) [-]
No... Fruits are the parts of a plant that hold the seeds.
Vegetables are any other part of the plant.

Nice attempt at sounding like you know what you're talking about, but next time, you should take 4th grade science. Just in case.
User avatar #70 to #40 - hoshasei (06/22/2012) [-]
Damn this could easily be settled and 'i don't know' actually look it up on wikipedia, like i told you to instead of just assuming you know everything. It's pretty sad when you get thumbed down for being right about something
User avatar #71 to #70 - iRetaliate (06/22/2012) [-]
Then go and look it up on Wikipedia.

I don't NEED to look it up, simply because I graduated the 5th grade, where you usually are supposed to learn things like this...
User avatar #72 to #71 - hoshasei (06/22/2012) [-]
I'm not saying that it's not a fruit, I totally agree that it is a fruit.
All i'm saying is that vegetable is not the opposite of fruit like you are saying. You are saying that a vegetable is every part of the plant that is that is not a fruit. If you want to be stubborn and lazy and not use the search bar at the top, to spare 10 seconds to enlighten yourself, then i can't help you. Unless you want me to screen-cap the dictionary for you
User avatar #73 to #72 - iRetaliate (06/22/2012) [-]
First off, you retards need to stop using dictionaries until you learn what the word "colloquialism" means, because all you do is use them to support your argument.

(A colloquialism is an INCORRECT meaning of a word that is used often enough that it can be PERCEIVED as correct)

(An example: Look up "enormity". Enormity means "an evil action", yet the dictionary will say that it colloquially means largeness)

But, since YOU were too stubborn and lazy to look up facts to support YOUR point, here you go: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetable
User avatar #74 to #73 - hoshasei (06/23/2012) [-]
why did you link me to the page that says i'm right. The link that i told you originally to you yourself look at, as a fact, that i supplied to support my argument.
are you trolling is that what this is.
User avatar #75 to #74 - iRetaliate (06/23/2012) [-]
"The noun vegetable means an edible plant or part of a plant, but usually excludes seeds and most sweet fruit. This typically means the leaf, stem, or root of a plant."

Please, learn to read.
User avatar #76 to #75 - hoshasei (06/23/2012) [-]
"In a non-biological sense, the meaning of this word is largely based on culinary and cultural tradition. Therefore, the application of the word is somewhat arbitrary and subjective"
This reiterates my original point which was that the word vegetable is "culinary" and "subjective" and thus has no firm definition.

I read just fine
User avatar #77 to #76 - iRetaliate (06/23/2012) [-]
Did you miss the part where I talked about colloquialisms?

God, you're ******* stupid...
User avatar #78 to #77 - hoshasei (06/23/2012) [-]
i understand what a colloquialism is but please explain how that supports your argument.
User avatar #79 to #78 - iRetaliate (06/23/2012) [-]
"In a NON-BIOLOGICAL sense, the meaning of the word is largely based on CULINARY... tradition." (Hint: Biology is objective, the culinary world is subjective)

Now, I'd really love for you to look up the words "objective" and "subjective" and draw up a little compare and contrast diagram for yourself.
#80 to #79 - hoshasei (06/23/2012) [-]
Well then if you don't mind please inform me what the biological definition is, you may if you like use this picture(clipped from dictionary.com) as a source, or by all means provide a credible source of you own.
User avatar #82 to #81 - hoshasei (06/24/2012) [-]
yet both wikipedia and the dictionary agree with me while you have found a couple of research papers that have likely fallen to your "colloquialism". From what I've experienced so far of your stubborn nature, i expect you to weak to admit defeat. Also Judging by your arbitrary name calling i think we both know you lost, but you'll never give in.
User avatar #83 to #82 - iRetaliate (06/24/2012) [-]

Yes, Wikipedia and You need to login to view this link are both more reliable than:

UCDavis Biology Department
The Lance Armstrong Association
The Indiana Board of Education
and the Oklahoma Board of Education

Nice try, child.
User avatar #84 to #83 - hoshasei (06/24/2012) [-]
Here is a quote from [url deleted] a source you provided: " [url deleted]

also may i point out that [url deleted] sites Waynesworld on the matter. Which if you visit this "credible" source, it also goes on to agree with me.

Also not just dictionary.com, Mirriam-webster, Oxford-english, and i'm sure any other dictionary.

eh-erm... more name calling, just what you need to boost your argument.
User avatar #86 to #84 - iRetaliate (06/24/2012) [-]
Okay, have fun with life...

You ARE a complete retard... Life will be very difficult for you. This is the last thing I have to say on this matter.

Go home, you won.
User avatar #85 to #84 - hoshasei (06/24/2012) [-]
1st source is Oklahoma state, second is livestrong
User avatar #47 to #40 - joper (06/22/2012) [-]
you don't exactly put a tomato in a fruit salade or do you?
User avatar #48 to #47 - iRetaliate (06/22/2012) [-]
That doesn't change the definition of words...

And I put apples in my "normal vegetable" salad, so that point is moot.
User avatar #51 to #48 - joper (06/22/2012) [-]
yes he said culinary its a vegetable. otherwise you would put the tomato in the fruitsalade. but scientificly its a fruit he was right.
User avatar #57 to #51 - shunkahawolf (06/22/2012) [-]
-_- you dont put tomatoes in a fruit salad because it doesnt taste good and fruit salads dont have every fruit in the world in it ive never seen a fruit salad with pomegranates or durian in it
User avatar #54 to #51 - iRetaliate (06/22/2012) [-]
That's not true either... I put sweet potatoes and ginger in my fruit salad.
#46 to #40 - anon (06/22/2012) [-]
Vegetables include ANY part of a plant that is edible and generally only excludes seeds and most sweet fruit...which is why tomatoes are classified as vegetables when they are technically a fruit...

Tomatoes, Squash, Cucumbers, Peppers, Eggplants, Avocado etc etc are all botanically fruit, but classified as vegetables due to taste, texture and cooking use.
User avatar #50 to #46 - iRetaliate (06/22/2012) [-]

Vegetables are any part of that is inherent to the plant.

Fruits are not inherent to plants. They are detachable from plants, because they are housing for seeds.

Saying that a fruit is a vegetable is like saying that your baby is YOU.
User avatar #56 to #50 - drainbamage (06/22/2012) [-]
Thank you, another person agrees with me. I got into an argument a while back if tomatoes were a fruit or not.

She insisted that the tomato was a vegetable. Then got her friends to side with her.
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