Mind = Blown. It's true.. According to our understanding of Quantum Mechanics and particle waves, if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to see or h

Mind = Blown

According to our understanding of Quantum
Mechanics and particle waves, if a tree falls
in the forest and no one is around to see or
hear it it will not only make a sound, but also
not make a sound. By the same token it
will fall, but will also not fall as all outcomes
are within the realm of possibility until it is
actually observed.
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User avatar #4 - vinyls (06/20/2012) [-]
Well the double split experiment shows us that matter is only exists how we perceive it there for when no one is around to see a certain tree fall there potentially couldn't be a tree there at all.
#5 to #4 - adrenacrome [OP](06/20/2012) [-]
You just blew my mind with a post about a post that was mind blowing.
#20 - anunoriginalname (06/21/2012) [-]
I still think this is a ******** answer. You're basically saying "I don't know, why not both?"
#37 - crackboots (06/21/2012) [-]
observation isn't the scientific term for looking at something, but for interaction between any amount of particles.

so light and the air around the tree also "observe" it, meaning the tree DOES fall and make a sound
User avatar #33 - eloschmidt **User deleted account** (06/21/2012) [-]
this is a little like Schrodinger's cat
#39 - anon (06/21/2012) [-]
a tree is not a ******* quantum particle. If gravity says so then yes, it will SURELY fall and will SURELY make a sound
even if nobody is there to acknowledge. Period. You can get all philosophical on that but it has nothing to do with quantum mechanics
because QM is about quantum particles and a tree is a damn macroscopic object.
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#42 to #39 - anon (06/21/2012) [-]
schrodinger's cat
#43 to #39 - rockwellrocks (06/21/2012) [-]
Sound is defined as vibrations that travel through the air or another medium and can be heard when they reach a person's ear. Nobody is around to hear the tree fall thus there is no receiver and because there is no receiver it can not be classified as a sound.
#45 to #39 - adrenacrome [OP](06/21/2012) [-]
But quantum particles make up everything else. If they are not constant that means by default nothing is constant. The odds may be extremely against it (like you would have to wait longer than the existence of the universe to see it happen) but you could according to the laws disappear and reappear in a different part of the planet. Nothing is real. It is only perceived as real by some process we do not understand.
#32 - RussianEmp (06/21/2012) [-]
Like Schrodinger's Cat, the tree exists in a super position that our observation of the situation forces the universe to collapse and make a decision?

Pic related mfw thinking about this...
#31 - doctorhobo (06/21/2012) [-]
And this is what it takes to amaze funnyjunkers with new astounding facts.
User avatar #25 - taokami (06/21/2012) [-]
and so schrodinger's cat applies, I feel smart
#18 - anon (06/21/2012) [-]
it's like schrodinger's cat you never know the outcome unless u open the box or in this case observe the tree falling
User avatar #12 - InsertFunnyPhrase (06/21/2012) [-]
Someone fully grasped the meaning of Schrodinger's Cat.
#24 - byakkoshinsei (06/21/2012) [-]
******** . if a tree falls and nothing is there to hear it, of course it makes a ******* sound. ffs
#34 to #24 - anon (06/21/2012) [-]
This is an example of the Quantum thought experiment "Schrodinger's Cat"
0.1/10 troll made me reply so idiots dont take the fail logic.
#35 to #34 - byakkoshinsei (06/21/2012) [-]
troll? fail logic? you people are retarded. just because you arent there to witness something happen doesnt mean it didnt happen you self centered **** tards.
assassin murdered someone in their sleep? he didnt die or get killed, HE VANISHED!
and the cat is another subject. we're talking if a tree falls. therefore we know it happened and that it obviously made a damn sound because when **** hits the ground they make sounds. but if a cat is in a container with no way to see whats up with it, no, we have no idea dafuq is with the cat.
#28 to #24 - anon (06/21/2012) [-]
A sound by definition is the inner ear receiving a vibration that your brain transforms into the thing you are hearing. So if there is nothing to listen to the sound does the sound still exist? Is sound merely an illusion of the mind and not actually a real thing? Did the tree actually fall if no one saw it happen? after all seeing something is merely light reflecting off a surface and entering your eyes where the signal is processed into the thing you see. So if that is true how do we know what we can see is actually real? Maybe there is so much more that we cannot see and we live our lives in ignorance of the real picture.
#29 to #28 - anon (06/21/2012) [-]
Perhaps our entire universe is just an illusion of the mind. All the sights, sounds and feelings that we think are real might be fake. That in reality we are nothing. We are blind to the truth.
#30 to #28 - byakkoshinsei (06/21/2012) [-]
nice phylosophy but wether you're there or not it made a sound. if i threw a vase out of hearing radius it would still make a sound when it shattered, someone there to hear it, or not.
#38 to #30 - pulu (06/21/2012) [-]
No, when it hits something and shatters it will create waves that your brain can interpret as sound with assist of your eardrum (''sound'' is just mechanical waves moving in air or in other medium) If there is no one to interpret those mechanical waves there is no sound, just waves moving, colliding and losing their energy until they are gone.
User avatar #16 - aldheim (06/21/2012) [-]
God I hate this theory.
It's like troll science gone too far, almost.
User avatar #13 - imakejewburgers (06/21/2012) [-]
It also says that our minds imagine the entire universe and that when we close our eyes it all disappears.
#14 - anon (06/21/2012) [-]
Only humans could be so conceited as to think that the physical laws of the universe work only when they observe it. Some morons need to develop object permanence..
#15 - crilleballe (06/21/2012) [-]
Sorry bro, but this is complete ******** , and i can't believe nobody pointed it out before.
Of course tree that falls make a sound. Sure nobody may hear it, but it still makes the sound. All this is is a comparison to a phenomenon happening in the quantum universe. The phenomenon being how electrons can be both electrons and photons at the same time, and is both at all times, until something affects it or is affected by it. (For example, when we try to look at it.)
#17 to #15 - anon (06/21/2012) [-]
Explain wave collapse then.
#27 to #15 - anon (06/21/2012) [-]
You should have left it in "Quantum Universe"
Everything after that is wrong.
User avatar #44 - misterbonzo (06/21/2012) [-]
Schrodinger's tree?
#40 - anon (06/21/2012) [-]
Holy **** I came to this conclusion yesterday...
#23 - anon (06/21/2012) [-]
schrödingers cat.....
User avatar #22 - tenaciousjon (06/21/2012) [-]
That's actually pretty accurate, if nobody is around to declare a true answer, the answer is basically both, since both are possible.
Yea, I know, I know, it's a very "I dunno" answer, but it's true, nonetheless.
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