Apple. .. Hey guys. Guys what if WHAT IF srsly guys what if we all got along and didn't give a about each others' beliefs. Apple Hey guys Guys what if WHAT IF srsly we all got along and didn't give a about each others' beliefs
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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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#16 - snowstormm
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whats the name of the show?
#18 to #16 - larsemand
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QI
#19 to #16 - watuppig
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QI. it's quite interesting if you ask me
#22 to #19 - newall
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Comment Picture
#185 to #22 - ixxamxxbatman
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**ixxamxxbatman rolls 80**
**ixxamxxbatman rolls 80**
#187 to #185 - ixxamxxbatman
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distraction?
distraction?
#25 to #19 - thebukman
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User avatar #43 to #19 - killerliquid
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What did you do there o_o
#216 - stripeygreenhat
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Hey guys.
Guys what if
WHAT IF
srsly guys
what if
we all got along and didn't give a **** about each others' beliefs.
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#259 to #220 - satyrn
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Baaaaah
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User avatar #223 to #221 - satyrn
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Me too. Pic related.
User avatar #244 to #223 - satyrn
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Bleh. Trying to post a pic of an SRS, but I can't upload for some reason?
User avatar #288 to #216 - angrygorrira
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Or how about this,
>give everyone old enough a drug that makes them make decisions based only on logic.
>Everyone now an atheist
>have eveybody in the world raise atheist kids, kids don't need drugs
>no more religion
#352 to #288 - mindheistninetysev
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#227 to #216 - anon id: 673e4d36
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Yeah, but that probably won't happen. You'll always have the atheists making fun of the other religions.
User avatar #255 to #227 - themaaster
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I'm sick of people complaining about having religion shoved down their throat. It's just advertisement or someone giving a **** about you. Those people need to calm their tits.
User avatar #254 to #227 - BridgeTroll
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and you will always have christians ripping on muslims, muslims on jews, etc.
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#258 to #216 - anon id: 15a86c30
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Thats part of my belief system already.
#361 to #216 - bagelsmeagol
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Good one!
User avatar #396 to #216 - xmasterchefx
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that would be nice, especially for someone like me who can't really pick one thing to believe in because I have a scientific mind but i also believe karma is real and stuff so ya, also seeing as religion has caused the most deaths and conflict in the world for as long as we have known proves "just how well" we come to terms with eachother.
(if you didn't read it is very understandable haha)
User avatar #271 to #216 - rplix
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That is impossible in human nature. We always want to be right and we all have our own unique beliefs. However, if everyone wants to better than everyone else, there is no avoiding people saying their belief is the right one.
User avatar #282 to #271 - flashcookies
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Then how did I learn to tolerate other people? (Except for close-minded liberals... I can't stand them)
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User avatar #261 to #216 - biopor
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I would love to see that, but a couple of those religions in that pic have more radical sectors in them that have "I'm right and everyone else is wrong &/or deserves to die" philosophies. In order to achieve universal Peace and Love, those sectors need to lose preeminence over the less radical sectors of their religions. That way we can actually talk instead of just yell at each other
User avatar #252 to #216 - themaaster
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Now now now, we should give a **** about other's beliefs. But we should be kind and cordial about it.
#68 - Awesomecarrot
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It actually has some good hidden meanings if you read
it and don't take it literally. I think that was the point of it;
it was simply meant to be a story to give would-be Christians
an idea of what life is like if you disobey the rules of their God.
Which is why Christians are ridiculed, because some people
take it literally. The same may go for many religious texts
but I don't know, I don't really study it much.
#460 to #68 - anon id: 6f101348
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Or it was just a story written by ignorant primitives to explain the origins of the world and you are reading too much into it.
User avatar #278 to #68 - Krystoking
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I'm sorry, but I think it would then be rather called a philosophy rather than a religion, if you don't take it literally.
User avatar #436 to #278 - Awesomecarrot
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I was only referring to the Genesis part of the Bible. The
part with the four Gospels (A.K.A The New Testament)
is meant to be an account of what actually happened when
Christ came to earth, so that part IS meant to be taken literally,
if you believe it. I guess that's why the religion is named Christianity,
rather than Genesism or something.
User avatar #208 to #68 - Cambro
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Exactly! Finally, someone who is not a Christian or scholar gets it. You are just a bit off, it describes how humanity did disobey the rules of God and why they continuously do it. The fruit of the tree is described, but its not any actual fruit. The tree was the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. The fruit of the tree then, obviously, was Knowledge of Good and Evil. God had created a pure creation in Adam and Eve (who may not have actually existed as well) and they had no reason to know of evil. They lived in direct presence with God and, therefore, evil was far from their minds. The snake is a Babylonian symbol of Knowledge but also Deceit. When Genesis was written Babylon was the Eastern world's dominant culture. They wrote the symbol of Satan as a snake because he was a Knowledgeable Deceiver. Satan convinced them that God was holding something back from them, that the knowledge of good and evil somehow made him God. By Adam and Eve knowing this wisdom, they thought they would become more like God. The sin of eating the fruit, then, was not just because God said don't do it. It was a sin of pride that took away God's dominion over man. Every sin since then has centered in selfishness and pride, man saying their way is better than God's way. THAT is what Genesis really means.
TL;DR version: Snakes don't talk, but Satan does. There was no tree of fruit, only a forbidden knowledge because it would corrupt mankind. Satan tempted them to know it anyway. Adam and Eve attempted to take away God's dominion. This was the first sin.
User avatar #437 to #208 - Awesomecarrot
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That's a really interesting way to look at it, thanks for sharing!
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User avatar #266 - cecilyxassassin
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Sorry for being a Christian, guys.

Oh, wait, I'm not sorry. I love my God. Stop it with the "Christians are so judgemental." Sorry, but I don't judge.

We're not as terrible as people say. Get your head out from under that rock.

Jesus loves me, this I know.....
User avatar #273 to #266 - smokerocks
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mature people don't have imaginary friends. That is all.
User avatar #279 to #273 - Ekans
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Mature people know how to understand someone.
#283 to #279 - smokerocks
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sorry but why should I respect someone telling me to get my head out from under a rock while they seem to think it's acceptable to believe in fairy tales.
User avatar #374 to #283 - scooterpony
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Let's say there is an all-powerful being that can do ANYTHING.
He could probably posses a donkey.
User avatar #416 to #374 - cecilyxassassin
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Favorite. This comment made my night :)
User avatar #418 to #416 - scooterpony
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Daw, yay!
User avatar #420 to #418 - cecilyxassassin
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Because seriously, when you think about it. God can do ANYTHING. What makes you think He can't make a donkey talk?

That's actually a pretty funny thought. Wonder if he sounds like Eddie Murphey...
User avatar #423 to #420 - scooterpony
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I don't get why people think that the craziness of most Biblical miracles automatically discredits them. It's God, He doesn't really need to be scientific.
I'm sure that the donkey was actually possessed by Eddie Murphey. Whenever God needs to make a donkey talk, he sends Eddie.
User avatar #426 to #423 - cecilyxassassin
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This is going to sound a little judgy when you first read it. So bare with me. There are people out in the world who don't see that part of the Bible. They see the weird crazy crap that goes down, but completely skip over the fact that HE IS GOD. He created this world from nothing. All that weird stuff is nil compared to that.
It reminds me of his phrase, "Do I detect a hint of hostility?"
User avatar #428 to #426 - scooterpony
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Didn't sound judgy at all, I completely get what you mean. It also doesn't help when a lot of people only read the Bible to find things that seem unbelievable.
User avatar #430 to #428 - cecilyxassassin
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Yes! Exactly! :)
Thumbs and stuff.
Good night scooterpony.
User avatar #292 to #283 - Ekans
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Jesus didn't write the bible. Of course thier was going to be some stupid things in thier that weren't written by him. People were stupid back then and are now.
User avatar #299 to #292 - smokerocks
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you can't even use proper grammar. And if your lord didn't write the bible, then how do you know what is in the bible is true?

And if that's the case, its absolutely stupid to believe people thousands of years ago had the universe figured out better than we do today. They made things up, just like every ancient civilization did.
User avatar #309 to #299 - Ekans
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I'm not christian/ I just understand them. But I do belive in a higher power. Why? Because I can't accept we are just here to be here. Call me stipid for that. But i feel that it is true. I might not be that well in grammer. But at least I know how to be mature. Thank you sir and have a good life.
User avatar #415 to #299 - cecilyxassassin
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1-Grammar has nothing to do with being a Christian/believing in God.
2-Technically, no, God DIDN'T write the Bible. He had His Disciples do it for Him, because He doesn't have a human form, unless you count Jesus. Jesus couldn't write the Old Testament-he wasn't alive. He couldn't write anything starting with Acts, because he wasn't alive, either.
3-They didn't have the universe figured out. They were writing down what God told them to. A lot of the Bible is morals anyway. Not exactly making things up here.
4-Thank you and good night.
User avatar #395 to #273 - cecilyxassassin
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Really? I don't understand that.
And He's not an imaginary friend. He's a friend. Maybe I can't see Him but that's what trust and faith and hope is for. He leads me. He doesn't "talk" to me in the sense that I hear voices. There are just times when I know what I need to do, like Someone is speaking to my heart.
It's a love thing. Maybe you will understand that.
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#270 to #266 - anon id: ef1132d7
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i dont believe in god but atleast you aren't saying we're wankers for not believing in him... thumb up :P
User avatar #406 to #270 - cecilyxassassin
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Thank you. I'm just glad I can say something like that without sounding snobbish because "oh I'm a Christian I love God This is how you should act/speak/think".

I try not to be that way because of people like you. Because even though you don't believe in God, I can still have a decent conversation with you without it being forced down my throat that I have an "imaginary friend."

Thank you man. I love you! :3
#330 to #266 - anon id: ac30c286
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LOL dumb christian *****.
HURRRR DURRR TER IS A MADJIC MAN IN TEH SKYY HOOO MAEKS MA WEESHES CALLLMMMM TRUEEEEEEE HERPA DERP
User avatar #410 to #330 - cecilyxassassin
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I don't know if I should reply to this or not. Frankly, I probably shouldn't.

I don't believe in a "magic man that makes all my wishes come true." I believe in a God that is there, always. I've said this in other comments. I know he's there, not because I hear His voice, but because He speaks to my heart. Some might call it a conscience, but that's their opinion. He'll never make all my wishes come true, because most of my wishes are selfish as all get-out. I know, however, that He only grants the wishes (or prayers) that mean something. That saying "all things happen for a reason" applies to God. He won't give you something if it won't help you in the long run. You may pray for a loved one to live after a lethal incident, but He may not want that, because it may make you grow as a person.

I hope you see what I'm getting at and don't thumb me down. I just wanted to get my point across that it's not what I believe.
#360 to #330 - bagelsmeagol
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Very cruel, but I thumbed up because of the hilarious image of the hick religious guy in my head.
#332 to #266 - anon id: 2d334bef
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i'm an atheist and i agree.

i just want a world where it isn't taught to children, so they can make their own decision. because it is quite similar to brain washing if done at that young of an age.
User avatar #389 to #332 - cecilyxassassin
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I respect that.
I understand. Though, because I am Christian, I will teach my kids the Bible. How they interpret it is their thing.
User avatar #313 to #266 - wiccanwolfboy
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So lets put that "don,t judge" to the test. What do you think about Wicca? And satanism? Both are totally different btw.
#326 to #313 - RainbowFright
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As a Christian I believe you should be able to worship who or what you choose. I don't agree with worshiping satan but if someone wants to do it I wont throw a fit. If you want to believe no higher power/creator exists/ or a flying spaghetti monster made everything then fine by me.
User avatar #329 to #326 - wiccanwolfboy
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Satanism isn't worshiping the devil exactly, it's more about living in indulgences. And i do believe in a higher power, the Lord and Lady. I am Wiccan, hence the name. And several other Gods and Goddesses.
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hedonism is living through indulgences. Satanism is more of satan worship and a love of the morbid and grotesque (shedding blood, sacrifices, pain, etc...)
User avatar #348 to #341 - wiccanwolfboy
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not so much, some is true, but sacrificing and blood shed and all that really depends on how the person is. some use satanism as an excuse, though not a very good one, to do stupid stuff. i know a satanist who has never even killed a bug intentionally.
User avatar #334 to #329 - RainbowFright
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I never said satanism was worshiping the devil. I never said you didn't believe in a higher power. I know about wiccan beliefs.
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"I don't agree with worshiping satan" and ". If you want to believe no higher power/creator exists" says you did. but hey im not trying to start a *********, just sayin. alot of christians, actually 99%, are pushy, judgemental, and ignorant. not all but most.
User avatar #413 to #343 - cecilyxassassin
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Just kinda backing RainbowFright up here, but I see he said "If you WANT to believe..." Not saying you did or didn't, just that the possibility was there. Plus, He never said it outright that Satanism is worshipping Satan...
#446 to #413 - RainbowFright
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Thank you for actually reading what I said.
Thank you for actually reading what I said.
User avatar #449 to #446 - cecilyxassassin
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Welcome :)
User avatar #447 to #343 - RainbowFright
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I never said 'Satanism worships satan and I don't agree with it.' Nor did I say 'You don't believe in a higher power.' I said as you have also stated was that I said "I don't agree with worshiping satan but if someone wants to do it I wont throw a fit. If you want to believe no higher power/creator exists/ or a flying spaghetti monster made everything then fine by me." But hey, It's okay to twist my words if you want to think I also said you believe in the flying spaghetti monster. 'You' was more of 'everyone on the planet', you was just easier to say...I thought you would have figured that out...
User avatar #373 to #313 - scooterpony
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I see what you're trying to get at, but assuming that those things are evil, it's not for Christians to judge, it's for God.
User avatar #408 to #373 - cecilyxassassin
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And a typical Christian "Amen" to you! :)
User avatar #336 to #313 - cecilyxassassin
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I know they both are. I don't agree. I wouldn't do them myself. I would attempt to show someone to Jesus, but I wouldn't shove it down their throats if they turn away. If they want to know more, they'll ask. I try not to push.
User avatar #322 to #266 - ofmiceandmen
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I'm atheist and I agree. People try to shove **** down each others throats. Just believe what you believe and that's that. I believe in good morals, in that we are the same.
User avatar #385 to #266 - thescatmanohone
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i'm sorry, but the final line..
Jesus loves me, this i know...
for the bible tells me so...
immediately thought of the splicers in bioshock
User avatar #387 to #385 - cecilyxassassin
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Oh gosh.... o.o

Don't remind me XD
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User avatar #280 to #266 - screwger
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Thank you, dude.
User avatar #403 to #280 - cecilyxassassin
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Just pointing out a fact... :)
#302 to #266 - dlorah
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YFW   
   
   
You are an hero to Christians like us.
YFW


You are an hero to Christians like us.
User avatar #404 to #302 - cecilyxassassin
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Thank you. :) But really I was just trying to say something true...
User avatar #277 to #266 - jaytinzeta
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Respect to this man
User avatar #338 to #277 - cecilyxassassin
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Woman :)
User avatar #365 to #338 - scooterpony
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Goddamn.

Marry me.
User avatar #382 to #365 - cecilyxassassin
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Language. :P
User avatar #386 to #382 - scooterpony
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So you're sayin' there's a chance.
User avatar #391 to #386 - cecilyxassassin
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Totally ;D
User avatar #401 to #391 - scooterpony
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Wunderbar.
It's rare to meet a Christian that knows what the hell's going on.
User avatar #402 to #401 - cecilyxassassin
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I won't say I know what's going on, just that I'm trying to. We will never know everything-we're not supposed to. But still. :) Thank you, kind sir.
Is that proposal still active? :o
User avatar #405 to #402 - scooterpony
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Certainly. I suppose that's where most Christians go wrong, assuming they know everything without a doubt just because their parents told them so.
Yes, it certainly is!
User avatar #407 to #405 - cecilyxassassin
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My parents didn't bring me up in a home where I had to go to church. They did, however, go to a Christian College. Maybe that's why I am the way I am, I don't know. As a Christian, the only thing I know is that God is out there somewhere. He's with me always. He loves me. I can't see Him but I sure as heck can feel Him. That's what I know.
I also know that I accept ;D
User avatar #409 to #407 - scooterpony
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I can't tell if church messes people up or not. Most people don't go to church and are stupid, but I don't either and I'd like to think that I'm not stupid.
Wunderbar, again! I accept your acceptance! ALL of our children shall be named Cynthia.
User avatar #411 to #409 - cecilyxassassin
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I went to church until I was fourteen, then I stopped because I didn't agree with my youth pastor. Just recently I started going again and am closer to him. I see his reasoning and though I don't agree with it I accept it. I was fine when I didn't go to church. (well in my opinion I was.) I still cuss now, and make lude jokes, but not as many as before.
And Fredrick. Every third child shall be named Fredrick.
User avatar #412 to #411 - scooterpony
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I'm just too lazy, as terrible as that sounds. It doesn't help that most of the churches around here are simply boring and uninteresting. I know it's not about how interesting it is, but still.
I will compromise, I accept.
User avatar #414 to #412 - cecilyxassassin
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I, myself, go to a Baptist church (I'm from the South). I like it well enough. My beliefs are founded from this way of teaching, so I understand. And it's not really boring to me. :/ I'm sorry if it is to you. I hope you find a church soon that you like and doesn't bore you. :)
Great. Perfect. :) We will live happily ever after in the Land of Lollygagging.
User avatar #417 to #414 - scooterpony
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Same here, the South part, surely were neighbors. I find most sermons repetitive, I'm sure there's a place out there for me, though. Thanks.
Sounds like a nice land, I'll bet that the magical land of Equestria is better, though.
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Born and raised in Arkansas, so maybe not. XD Just gotta keep visiting those churches, find the one that fits... like an old pair of shoes. :)
Oooooh. :L not a Brony.....
User avatar #421 to #419 - scooterpony
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People live in Arkansas? Woah! Yep-yep.
Oh dear. This is a disaster.
User avatar #422 to #421 - cecilyxassassin
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Yes people live in Arkasas. :p I still got all mah teef, too.
Oh, no!
User avatar #424 to #422 - scooterpony
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Defying the odds, congratulations, good for you, and other miscellaneous verbal pats on the back.
You'd make a wonderful brony, dear.
User avatar #425 to #424 - cecilyxassassin
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"You're a disaster in a dress..." Hedley moment. Good song. :o
Oh, but I've never seen an episode. o.o
User avatar #427 to #338 - scooterpony
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Max reply thingy.
Speaking of contemporary Christian music, I can't stand it.
Oh you simply must try it some time.
I must go to bed now! Goodnight!
User avatar #429 to #427 - cecilyxassassin
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okay. So. Not a contemporary Christian song (I'm not a fan of it myself. I am more in tune with the likes of Skillet and Red and such.) It's actually from a Canadian band called Hedley. Great people.
I will try one day. If you listen to Hedley, dear.
Good night sleep tight and the likes.
User avatar #455 to #429 - scooterpony
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Do you have a Skype or something?
I rarely come on FJ, really.
User avatar #456 to #455 - cecilyxassassin
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Skype? ververyveryvery rarely.
Got a phone number though o.o
jk.


kinda
User avatar #457 to #456 - scooterpony
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Hm, well, whatever you're comfortable with.
Do you have anything else that you check often?
User avatar #458 to #457 - cecilyxassassin
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Facebook.
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User avatar #269 to #266 - edreva
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You can't imagine how creepy sounds to me when somebody says "Jesus loves me". And my name's Jesús.
User avatar #340 to #269 - cecilyxassassin
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Well... YOu get my meaning :)
#214 - aviators
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For all of you people who don't know this, Agnostic: believing in a chance of a higher power.   
   
It helps you avoid many a **** storm when talking to Atheists or die-hard Christians on such a subject.
For all of you people who don't know this, Agnostic: believing in a chance of a higher power.

It helps you avoid many a **** storm when talking to Atheists or die-hard Christians on such a subject.
User avatar #240 to #214 - redwolfradolf
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Agnosticism is just lazy from the viewpoint of both Athiests and Christians
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User avatar #250 to #246 - redwolfradolf
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Well I can't speak for athiests, but most christians are not without their doubts.
We don't claim to know everything, we just pick a side.
User avatar #263 to #250 - BridgeTroll
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im gonna have to disagree with you, on the whole, most of the christians i know (and i went to christian school for 12 years) are very "my way or the highway"
User avatar #450 to #263 - redwolfradolf
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"I'm afraid you've had a very poor sampling."
-Tumnis
#265 to #246 - anon id: 15a86c30
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thats how I feel
User avatar #267 to #214 - memeinmycoffee
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That's not what agnostic means.
User avatar #451 to #267 - aviators
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Agnosticism is a stance about the difference between belief and knowledge, rather than about any specific claim or belief. In the popular sense, an agnostic is someone who is undecided about the existence of a deity or deities. Basically what i said in a nutshell.
User avatar #441 to #267 - aviators
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i just tried to sum it up the best i could sorry
User avatar #114 - FortyTwoFortyTwo
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guise
guys
what if
u guise
srsly
what if monkeys
u guis
what if monkeys evolved from the bible
User avatar #1 - Ballbreaker
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actually in the greek version (original) its a fig tree am not atheist nor religius just wanted to say this
User avatar #4 to #1 - TheMather
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If you're not religious then you are an Atheist. Atheism isn't a belief, it's the lack of one.
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I should probably point out that you can be non-religious, and still be a theist...

To be religious, you need to follow a religion. But there is no requirement to follow a religion in order to believe in a deity. Many people consider themselves to relate to a "personal god" - much like the one existing within the framework of AA. These personal gods are attributed, on many occasions, physical abilities - like the ability to help sobriety - whilst differentiating from any religiously defined god.

Basically, every religion has a god, but not every god has a religion. Theism is the belief in a god/deity. If you believe in a god without a religion, you are a non-religious theist.

Btw, it's the same anon as below *laughs*
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Isn't that the same as believing in any pantheon?
Unless you mean the god being a manifestation of an aspect of themselves, in which case it would be a variation of Humanism.
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I used personal gods as an example, seeing as any named example would be made redundant if anyone else understood it, given that for you to know of it there would need to be some form of religion spreading the deities name.

I was saying that the follower of any non-religious god, that being one without any sort of canon or religious structure in its foundations [the greek/roman pantheon would be considered religious, so believing in those retains the title of "religious" in the believer] would be considered a non-religious theist.. so we have a non-religious person who does not fall under the classification of "atheist"
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So Deism, Pandeism, Henotheism or Kathenotheism? I'm pretty sure they count as religions.
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#37 to #34 - TheMather
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Meh, I only have one **** to give, and guess to whom.
#23 to #17 - anon id: 323c5cef
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I'm pretty sure you need to go back and look at the two things that need to be avoided; canon and religious structure.

what do you do? Bring me religious philosophies - which arguably have both - yeah... that was real smart...

*cradles head in hands*
User avatar #6 to #4 - squadmissile
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No you can be neither, you can just not give two ***** one way or the other
#7 to #6 - anon id: 323c5cef
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You either believe, or you don't. If you don't give two *****, you obviously don't believe, as nobody who believe in a god [or various god] would whimsically dismiss his/her/its existence. Somebody who doesn't give a **** is probably an agnostic atheist [or de facto atheist, which is pretty much the same thing - by admitting the possibility, however slim, that a deity may exist.. you become agnostic]
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you can also not care, which is what i believe that squadmissile was referring to. this is called apatheism.
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I was brought up catholic, i think there is a God (My Religious studies teacher had a really good arguement which i've forgotten but im sticking with it) but i literally do not care at all. All arguements about it are pointless because you aren't going to convince an extremist.

If there is a god, Yay. If there isn't, Yay. I'll just be happy dying and finding out that one side of this *********** of *********** was wrong
#12 to #8 - anon id: 323c5cef
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"I think there is a God"

So you're a theist. My argument isn't that every non-religious person is an atheist, only that those who do not give a **** are predisposed to being an atheist. You're what we'd call a laxed catholic.. you believe in it, but you don't practise it [I assume you don't practise, given you don't give a shit - if you do practise, you give enough of a shit to practise, so to claim you don't give a shit is crazy]. It's likely that you're atheistic by nature, given your lack of conviction in your faith [one doesn't question that you are a theist, or religious, only that you are inherent so - I'm basically saying is learned belief, shown by the fact you stick by the words of another, rather than find your own].

You're right, you aren't going to convince the extremist.. but mine was a statement of fact - using definitions to make my point. you don't need to convince someone of something if your argument is over semantics, given that words such as "atheist" are easily and accurately defined.
User avatar #14 to #12 - squadmissile
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Your right in pretty much everything you say anon, I realise that i was coming across as a bit of a pleb and i'm sorry for that. I just think that funnyjunk shouldn't be a forum for religious debate and was a bit rash with my comment.

Thanks for you're answer though, you seem very knowledgeable and you taught be a fair deal about semantics ;)
User avatar #20 to #4 - fukkendragonite
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Agnosticism? Fool.
User avatar #24 to #20 - TheMather
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Agnosticism is a religion, it's the belief that there is a god, but what we know about him/her/it is wrong.
User avatar #439 to #24 - fukkendragonite
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You're a goddamn ******* idiot. Agnosticism is a belief that we don't have enough information to know anything about whether there is a god or not. How can you be religious if you don't think we have enough information to know whether there is a god?
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That's an Agnostic Theist...A pure agnostic believes the human has no rational grounds to justify the existence of deities or the non-existence...that's not really a religion. It's more, its an unknown question that we will never know or at least not know with the current mindset.
User avatar #35 to #1 - semisane
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The original version of the old testament was hebrew, the new one was mainly greek. Genesis, part of the old testament, was originally in hebrew, but it didn't specify which type of tree it was. The most reasonable assumption is that it's a fig tree, because after eating the fruit Adam and Eve covered themselves with fig leaves. Not necessarily leaves from THAT tree.
It's all semantics and not really important to the big picture.
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MFW looking at the comments
MFW looking at the comments