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#222 - superxspartan (05/26/2012) [-]
I understand that power armor isn't the way to go for your common front line soldier,
But will there NEVER be a use for a walking tank? or even just armor in general? If so then my hopes for something like a spartan becoming reality just died
User avatar #225 to #222 - disgruntled (05/26/2012) [-]
There will be a need for it someday. However, a million dollar suit of power armor won't protect you from a $15 IED.
#221 - vinomz (05/26/2012) [-]
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#213 - bostongreggissexy (05/26/2012) [-]
WWII soldiers looked the coolest.
#209 - hauntzor (05/26/2012) [-]
meanwhile, 300 years from now
#193 - foitleman (05/26/2012) [-]
Joe Toye: Three day supply of K-rations, chocolate bars, charms candy, powdered coffee, sugar, matches, compass, bayonet, entrenching tool, ammunition, gas mask, musette bag with ammo, my weapon, my .45, canteen, two cartons of smokes, Hawkins mine, two grenades, smoke grenade, Gammon grenade, t-n-t, this bull****, and a pair of nasty skivvies!
Frank Perconte: What's your point?
Joe Toye: This stuff weighs as much as I do, I still got my chute, my reserve chute, my Mae West, my M1.
Frank Perconte: Where you keeping the brass knuckles?
Joe Toye: I could *use* some brass knuckles.
#214 to #193 - anonymous (05/26/2012) [-]
that's Army not Marines. there's a difference, don't quote army **** (especially when it's fictional) in a Marine thread.
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#175 - anonymous (05/26/2012) [-]
What's funny is that Marine from 1990+ will have so much endurance from carrying that **** all the time, all he has to do is drop the pack and VOOM, fast and runs forever.
User avatar #177 to #175 - disgruntled (05/26/2012) [-]
Actually it destroys our bodies. It's not uncommon to see a 22 year old Marine getting knee or back surgery. I'm not even twenty yet and I have constant back pain, knee problems, and even a few grey hairs...
#176 to #175 - anonymous (05/26/2012) [-]
or passout from exotischen
User avatar #190 to #176 - Optyc (05/26/2012) [-]
User avatar #203 to #190 - gatorade (05/26/2012) [-]
Are you two retarded......?

User avatar #200 to #190 - DisgruntledTomato (05/26/2012) [-]
User avatar #235 to #200 - Optyc (05/26/2012) [-]
Holy **** did i not make that obvious that i was being sarcastic?
#171 - thechosentroll (05/26/2012) [-]
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A post about the modern military and evolution? How could this ever go wrong?
User avatar #159 - CorporalObvious (05/26/2012) [-]
That's because our grunts tend to die less when they're not standing up in brightly coloured uniforms.
From experience I can say, losing a friend on the ground hurts. It hurts bad.
User avatar #155 - fargone (05/26/2012) [-]
Here come the part where my stupid starts showing
I doubt that even if powered armor became possible that it would be issued to every soldier, or even very many of them. It'd probably be cheaper to lighten what the soldier has to carry than it would be to make them able to carry more. The only thing I could see powered armor being truly useful for is the holly wood version of it where it balances significantly increased protection and firepower. In most scenarios, a one-man armored heavy weapons team would probably be more of a hassle than it would be worth, but in places where heavy support simply can't get, it'd probably be pretty nice.
inb4 someone who knows their **** explains why I'm wrong
#169 to #155 - luckodairish (05/26/2012) [-]
Haters Gonna Hate!
#187 to #169 - fargone (05/26/2012) [-]
It's time for an upgrade
It's time for an upgrade
User avatar #197 to #161 - fargone (05/26/2012) [-]
it's cool, but it's got an eight hour battery.
User avatar #220 to #197 - ProWig (05/26/2012) [-]
hey its a start though?
User avatar #226 to #220 - fargone (05/26/2012) [-]
It's a start, but it's kinda silly how some of the added lifting capacity will probably have to go towards carrying its own battery.
#227 to #226 - ProWig (05/26/2012) [-]
lol humans
User avatar #120 - deathlordgusta (05/26/2012) [-]
i wonder if armies will be investing money in power armors (hal 5) anytime soon(?) since they use missiles sometimes use missiles that cost about the same amount of money. i'm sure there are plenty of uses for power armors i the military.
User avatar #216 to #120 - sevensixtwo (05/26/2012) [-]
i had just thought of this... a happy medium between powered armor and natural strength? not quite a full body Iron Man suit, but servo-propelled joints, similar to medical braces, that amplify force. instead of having a single large battery pack, distribute the power cells throughout the structural framework, and you would sacrafice the weight with added strength. you could icrease the firepower of a squad with a soldier wearing this armor, and he could have a larger weapon and ammunition capacities- similar to a squad designated marksman, he would have the high-recoil weapon that would jar a normal soldier but with recoil compensators he can be more accurate with sustained fire. army motto- accuracy by volume. lol but also think about the de-moralization factor of that soldier- he would be marked as a tarket, but definitley scary for the enemy.
#128 to #120 - anonymous (05/26/2012) [-]
Power armor, and powered exosekeltons are not the solution, lightweight gear is.
Put a man out in the **** , carrying his own weight in gear by the aid of a power suit, then he runs the risk of getting ****** if that equipment gets ****** up. And there's no way to make it ********** .
Lightweight materials are a much more time-worthy cause. If my pack only weighs 40 pounds, then my pack only weighs 40 pounds. The enemy/environment can't **** that up for me.
User avatar #130 to #128 - deathlordgusta (05/26/2012) [-]
(i love discussing this) yes, as i mentioned below there are two big problems with the power armor, but about energy supply, what would be best? fuel cells use rare metals, primairy cells have to be replaced constantly, secundairy cells don't have as much 'capacity' as primairy, and a combustion engine would weigh too much.
User avatar #142 to #130 - pornzmon (05/26/2012) [-]
Power armor is not the solution. the anon has the right idea. The purpose of infantry is to be able to go almost anywhere. But if you give them power armor, no matter how strong it is, you decrease their flexibility. you weigh them down and more often than not slow them down. Not to mention that the extra weight of the power armor would drag them down in some types of terrain, (e.g. swamps, deserts, mountains). not to mention the crapload of maintenance and supplies and manpower that it would take to keep one running
tl:dr basically you turn them into walking tanks, and while that sounds awesome, tanks have a limited area where they can go and require a ******* of maintenance that isn't worth it.
User avatar #149 to #142 - deathlordgusta (05/26/2012) [-]
yes i thought about how the power armor could make you 'sink' in certain types of terrain.
well, how about just a small group of soldiers who use power armors in situations that agility is not quite relevant? for special missions?
User avatar #166 to #149 - pornzmon (05/26/2012) [-]
no the power armor might make you sink in mud or thhose sortsd of terrian, but I meant it would be diffucult climbing up mountains and in desert the armor would undoubtedly fail horribly from the sand getting everywhere.
Any mission where agility isn't relevant can be completed by a mounted infantry squadron, an attack helicopter, or a tank.
User avatar #188 to #166 - localbees (05/26/2012) [-]
Not only would mud and desert pose a problem, but what about bridges and floors?
Depending on how heavy said power armor is, you might run the risk of falling through lightweight structures.
#184 to #166 - anonymous (05/26/2012) [-]
I think what deathlordgusta meant was in the event of say, Urban combat? Say you need to clear a building, leveling it isn't an option, and there's tangos on every floor? Put a few dudes in power armor through the door. Bulletproof and mechanically powered to move at a decent speed.
User avatar #224 to #184 - MrTurdTastic (05/26/2012) [-]
Thats what Fragmentation and Stun grenades are for. throw, enemy is disoriented/dead, go in, clear out remainder.
User avatar #192 to #184 - pornzmon (05/26/2012) [-]
that wouldn't work because the machinery would probably be bulky, especially with the armor and hinder movement in close quarters.
User avatar #194 to #192 - pornzmon (05/26/2012) [-]
and as local bees said, " you might run the risk of falling through lightweight structures"
#138 to #130 - anonymous (05/26/2012) [-]
If you insist on power armor, then here's what you need.
Firstly, you aren't going to find a lightweight power source that isn't made out of some rare material. Asking for more would just be silly, and something not in this world.
In a current-day armor, I'd suggest carbon-fiber batteries. In a future setting, plasma cells are where it's at.
But like I said, machines are not perfect. They can't be. There will always be some way for them to fail. Parts will wear out, batteries will die, circuits will short, and that's just a few of the issues on the machine's side, let alone all the user-based problems.
The solution lies in either the weight the soldiers carry, or the soldiers carrying the weight. They'll find a super-soldier serum long before energy suits are a viable option.
User avatar #151 to #138 - deathlordgusta (05/26/2012) [-]
do you mean as in a drug or a genetic material-altering substance?

i'm considerably optimistic about technology, we've come across tonnes of problems and we've solved tonnes of them. sure, we won't be able to make anything perfect, but we can get close.
#178 to #151 - anonymous (05/26/2012) [-]
Not sure why you were thumbed down...
Either one would work, really. But we're still too far from that, and biology was never really my subject. If I had to guess though, it'd be genetic material-altering substance, simply because they tried and failed with drugs during the Vietnam and Korean conflicts, and ended up giving soldiers **** like PCP.
And it's reasonable to be optimistic with technology. If I'd told someone a hundred years ago that we'd be travelling faster than sound, flying across oceans in planes that hold hundreds of people, or that we'd have devices that could scan your brain and show it working, or hell even just tell them about the internet!... They'd call me nuts. Let alone if I told them the advanced stuff! There is, right now, a female control a robotic arm using a motherboard in her brain. There are machines that are edging closer and closer to the cellular level. There are robots that can move in coordination with each other to build structures, knowing what step to do next by communicating with each other rather than being told the next step...
But really, in some cases, a super machine isn't the answer, and this is one of them. Look into super-lightweight materials. Plastic that's literally lighter than air. Force-responsive gels and foams that can stop bullets and weigh less than kevlar. Advanced science isn't limited to machines.
User avatar #180 to #178 - deathlordgusta (05/26/2012) [-]
i'll read into that.
User avatar #122 to #120 - soggycookies (05/26/2012) [-]
They are, actually. Since the 1960s, the US Army has been developing different systems to help soldier carry more, among other things. To learn more, look up "Powered Exoskeletons". :)
User avatar #124 to #122 - deathlordgusta (05/26/2012) [-]
look up the hal 5.
#121 to #120 - disgruntled (05/26/2012) [-]
There are plenty of problems with "power armor" namely maintenence, electricity and cost. The actual front line units are not very well taken care of. I deployed with no battery cap on my PEQ-16 (laser/light system) and no on/off knob on my night vision. Half the equipment we have doesn't work. I lived in a tiny mud compound (pictured) with no power, an hour away by foot from the nearest other Marines. No roads could reach us. We had to patrol to the nearest position every couple days just to switch out radio batteries. The problem is that they give us more gear than we need. My squad all wanted to patrol in chest rigs. **** body armor. it has its uses, but our situation was only hurt by our body armor. If we could operate how we wanted, it would have only been 20-30 pounds of gear per person rather than 80-100 for an average patrol load. However, we have no choice in the matter. Of the casualties I saw, only one was mildly helped by wearing armor, and he was ****** up enough in his legs that it didn't really matter.
User avatar #126 to #121 - deathlordgusta (05/26/2012) [-]
yes, there are several problems with the power armor, but ignoring the fact that the current power armors have problems with energy supply, they're very useful. your 100 pound gear would only feel like 20 pounds if you'd wear a power armor, you could use heavier weapons and armor without really suffering from it.

another obvious problem with the power armor is that it 'detects' impulses using elektrodes and these are interpretaded by a computer, should this computer be exposed to magnetism, it will completely fail.
User avatar #129 to #126 - disgruntled (05/26/2012) [-]
Technology fails. What actually wins wars is a bunch of pissed off 18-24 year old men with simple machines that spit lead who only want to kill the enemy and keep their friends safe.
User avatar #133 to #129 - deathlordgusta (05/26/2012) [-]
>technology fails
#156 to #133 - anonymous (05/26/2012) [-]
Well firearms don't require a power supply like a power suit. You just need a basic maintenance kit to clean the rifle and it will work.
User avatar #158 to #156 - deathlordgusta (05/26/2012) [-]
true, it's on a completely different level of technology.
User avatar #135 to #133 - disgruntled (05/26/2012) [-]
Touche, however compared to the technology we have, an M16 is about as technologically advanced as a coffe maker.
User avatar #140 to #135 - deathlordgusta (05/26/2012) [-]
yes but have you ever thought about the potential that the power armor has? it can make you able to wield heavy arms that could easily take out armored vehicles and what not. as soon as the main two problems are solved i wouldn't see a reason not to use them
User avatar #146 to #140 - disgruntled (05/26/2012) [-]
Oh I'm sure one day it will be practical, but for the wars of today, Vietnam era technology is better than what we are forced to carry nowadays.
User avatar #154 to #146 - deathlordgusta (05/26/2012) [-]
ah yes, you gotta love the quality of some of those items.
#108 - bunkerjunction (05/26/2012) [-]
evuloshin pls
#104 - demonicfeline (05/26/2012) [-]
I'm sure this won't cause a 						*********					 over the military or over evolution.   
I'm sure this won't cause a ********* over the military or over evolution.

#110 to #104 - Krathalos (05/26/2012) [-]
How could someone complain about evolution over this?

Evolution is an actual word, you know. It's not just a theory over how life began.
#131 to #110 - anonymous (05/26/2012) [-]
THAT. That right there is how a ********* starts. Stop it.
#101 - Seanacus (05/26/2012) [-]
Comment Picture
User avatar #181 to #101 - mattimeon (05/26/2012) [-]
#210 to #181 - anonymous (05/26/2012) [-]
generation kill
User avatar #198 to #181 - olem (05/26/2012) [-]
It's from Generation Kill. Awesome show.
#87 - fangirlhater (05/26/2012) [-]
C.E. 2400
#170 to #87 - thechosentroll (05/26/2012) [-]
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I wish I knew what was going through the guys over at Blizzs' heads when they came up with space marines
"Hey! I GOT IT! The perfect unit - space marines!

Frank, that already exists. The makers of Warhammer 40k could sue us.

What if we change them up a bit?


I dunno........ How about we change the helmet design to an astronauts' and remove all the armor ornaments?

That is the single most............... brilliant idea I've ever heard!"
#105 to #87 - toefoo (05/26/2012) [-]
bitch please
#163 to #105 - thenonathiest (05/26/2012) [-]
For a sec I thought that was garen from lol
#134 to #105 - lolzy (05/26/2012) [-]
The Emperor protects.....power armour doesnt hurt though
#86 - mcwachner (05/26/2012) [-]
**mcwachner rolled a random image posted in comment #4975822 at FJ Pony Thread ** I hate the military
#207 to #86 - anonymous (05/26/2012) [-]
you're ignorant, it's that simple.
User avatar #199 to #86 - keiishiyama (05/26/2012) [-]
No one's telling you to like them, but you better have some godddamn respect for the fact that they're overseas fighting to protect your right to hate them.
#186 to #86 - anonymous (05/26/2012) [-]
go die
#143 to #86 - anonymous (05/26/2012) [-]
you're an ungrateful little brat who lives in their own little bubble and has no idea what goes on in the world.
User avatar #94 to #86 - disgruntled (05/26/2012) [-]
"I hate the military"
That's cool bro. Becasue I'll still do my job no matter what.
User avatar #201 to #94 - keiishiyama (05/26/2012) [-]
Thank you for serving.
#145 to #94 - anonymous (05/26/2012) [-]
That's good you know your place bro, the world wouldn't revolve without janitors like you.
User avatar #119 to #94 - deathlordgusta (05/26/2012) [-]
ignore the **** those guys say.
#98 to #94 - mcwachner (05/26/2012) [-]
Sure thing bro. Why don't you just go ahead and kill someone.
Sure thing bro. Why don't you just go ahead and kill someone.
#123 to #98 - anonymous (05/26/2012) [-]
Hate the war not the soldier. the only reason you can say that is because they are out there fighting for your rights.
#107 to #98 - icandividebyzero (05/26/2012) [-]
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Cowards make fun of people who put their lives on the line.
#136 to #107 - anonymous (05/26/2012) [-]
#116 to #107 - anonymous (05/26/2012) [-]
It was their choice.

They should know what they were getting into when they join. Just because some one doesn't suck their dick doesn't mean they're a coward.

I don't expect anyone who doesn't live near a Naval Station or a Base to understand what I mean.
User avatar #237 to #116 - brobafett (05/27/2012) [-]
"I don't expect anyone who doesn't live near a Naval Station or a Base to understand what I mean. "

Good job your the equivalent to a girl on face book saying "don't talk to me".
User avatar #100 to #98 - fjfordawin (05/26/2012) [-]
lol dumbass, not everyone in the military kills people. Ever heard of a ******* doctor?
#99 to #98 - atr (05/26/2012) [-]
Why don't you just draw up another protest sign?
User avatar #102 to #99 - mcwachner (05/26/2012) [-]

Funny thing is, I'm actually starting at Med School after this Summerbreak.
#139 to #102 - anonymous (05/26/2012) [-]
User avatar #111 to #102 - TopDawg (05/26/2012) [-]
Listen here, it's dumb asses like you who make me sick. People lay their ass on the line, get shot at and kill other human beings so you can sit there on your ass, and berate them for keeping you safe, even if you're not an American, Countries all over the ******* WORLD band together and fight to keep you safe at night. Welcome to human ******* nature bitch, kill or be killed. Enjoy medical school, because I'm sure where ever it is located, over five hundred men and women gave their lives up so it could be there, and not some Communist government building, or just a pile of ******* rubble.
#127 to #111 - anonymous (05/26/2012) [-]
You know communism is just a different form of government right? Not some plague that will kill all Human life.
User avatar #148 to #127 - TopDawg (05/26/2012) [-]
Communism is a form of government where the government owns EVERY building and business. My point was that the location could have been just another building and not a school. And he may not have had a choice of freely following a profession, as Communism chooses your future for you.
User avatar #204 to #148 - keiishiyama (05/26/2012) [-]
That's fascism/dictatorship. Communism is where everything is public property.
User avatar #115 to #111 - mcwachner (05/26/2012) [-]
Right... That's it, that is how the world revolves. Thanks man, you enlighten my entire life.
#106 to #102 - atr (05/26/2012) [-]
Good for you. I hope you take some time in your life to go to Afghanistan to see the progress we've made there. We aren't some psychotic killers, we're young diplomats trying to make the world a better place.
User avatar #109 to #106 - mcwachner (05/26/2012) [-]
Why would i go to a country that i don't have any business to attend to?

A world a better place? By bombing the **** out of a country... Right. Are you sure it's not because of the oil?
#238 to #109 - brobafett (05/27/2012) [-]
HURR DURRR! If we stop being mean surely everyone else will to!
User avatar #183 to #109 - mjdjoy (05/26/2012) [-]
You should be grateful people volunteer to be soldiers, so you can pursue your career and not get your ass and all of your friends asses drafted into war. Hate the war but don't hate the men.
#152 to #109 - anonymous (05/26/2012) [-]
There is not ******* oil in Afganistan you ********
#144 to #109 - anonymous (05/26/2012) [-]
#118 to #109 - atr (05/26/2012) [-]
I don't know about you, but taking care of an area that hasn't been too great in the past few decades seems to be making the area better. Besides, how much oil is in Afghanistan and how many family members do you have who are in the military. I know my cousin is pretty damn proud about saving the lives of many by digging up and disposing of IEDs.
#113 to #109 - Krathalos (05/26/2012) [-]
You're an absolute moron.

The amount of ignorance throughout all of your posts can't even be summed up in one message.

Go hug a tree.
User avatar #74 - Spavaloo (05/26/2012) [-]

I want railguns.
#70 - wyvrn (05/26/2012) [-]
dont want to be offensive but yeah...
User avatar #137 to #70 - fargone (05/26/2012) [-]
That right there is the future of warfare. Think about it. Zombies don't need food. Zombies don't need shelter. For every enemy they kill, their own ranks grow. If someone could a) make zombies b) find a failsafe way to control them, we'd all be ****** .
User avatar #232 to #137 - ProWig (05/26/2012) [-]
zombies eat who they kill,they eat everything. i think everyone over looks this
User avatar #150 to #137 - stewieyes (05/26/2012) [-]
And then the kiddies who think that's inhumane to lock up zombies try and free them and then we have a pandemic.
User avatar #157 to #150 - fargone (05/26/2012) [-]
And that's when we build robot soldiers to fight the zombies
#168 to #157 - anonymous (05/26/2012) [-]
but then someone frees the robots because they think its humane
User avatar #160 to #157 - stewieyes (05/26/2012) [-]
And then we have to stick close to the robots to repair them. And AIs are out of the question.
User avatar #89 to #70 - brobafett (05/26/2012) [-]
Actually the red Beret implies he is American Air Borne.
User avatar #132 to #89 - disgruntled (05/26/2012) [-]
Yeah, Marines don't wear berets or patches (we aren't even allowed to wear American flag patches)
#95 to #89 - anonymous (05/26/2012) [-]
What this guy said.

You can barely see the 82nd Airborne patch on their left shoulders.
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