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#57 - stripeygreenhat (05/13/2012) [-]
Well, the problem arises with the impression that God is omnipotent and omniscient. With these two characteristics, particularly the latter, God logically is correct at all times and doesn't change his mind/opinion on any matter. In the Old Testament, God does state that homosexuals are abominations. Also, Jesus IS God, sort of an incarnate of him. Therefore, Jesus dislikes homosexuals because he (God) said that he did earlier. I'm not saying I agree with the Bible, but this is basically the justification people use when hating on gays.

TLDR- God knows everything and therefore can't change his mind. Even in a "human state" he still dislikes homosexuals.
User avatar #60 to #57 - unhappyspanners (05/13/2012) [-]
Omniscient means he is all knowing... That doesn't mean he can't change his mind. And before you say anything, I'm an atheist who believes in gay rights.
#77 to #60 - anon (05/13/2012) [-]
not hating in anyway shape or form because i too am an atheist who believes in gay rights, but why did you add that last part of your comment? "And before you say anything, I'm an atheist who believes in gay rights." i only ask because it isnt relevant to the main part of the comment discussing the meaning of omniscient.
User avatar #80 to #77 - unhappyspanners (05/13/2012) [-]
Before somebody automatically thinks I'm a Christian for disagreeing with him.
#61 to #60 - stripeygreenhat (05/13/2012) [-]
If someone is all knowing, they are already aware of all information ever, even things to occur in the future. When people change their minds, its because they come across new information they didn't know or think of before. God already has all knowledge ever and therefore cannot make any new connections or ideas.
User avatar #64 to #61 - unhappyspanners (05/13/2012) [-]
Or maybe he has a change of heart or opinion? You can't state something like that when talking about "God".
User avatar #71 to #64 - satyrn (05/13/2012) [-]
Actually, if he's omniscient, you can. You could think of an omniscient entity such as that as almost as a rule of the universe, never changing state in the slightest. Because god knows everything that ever has, will, might and would have been, then there is literally no room for any error. Simply the fact that he knows what is going to happen means that the future is already completely set in place, including god's own actions and thoughts, if you can call them that.
User avatar #72 to #71 - unhappyspanners (05/13/2012) [-]
If he cannot change his own actions from what he knows, then is he omnipotent?
#90 to #72 - anon (05/13/2012) [-]
1st id like to say that if god is omniscient and omnipotent, then he has no need to change his actions because he has all knowledge and has decided his actions previously.

2nd if god is all knowing and all powerful, then you do realize that god is responsible for all suffering all tragedy all sickness that happens in this world. but in the attempt to remain neutral, this would also mean he is responsible for all good that happens, ever childbirth every life saved. so ask yourself this. if this god is responsible for acts of good and acts of evil, is this god a god you want to support?
#69 to #64 - stripeygreenhat (05/13/2012) [-]
If he's truly all-knowing, he would know he was going to change his opinion in the future. You're correct only if he is not completely all-knowing.
User avatar #70 to #69 - unhappyspanners (05/13/2012) [-]
Why would knowing he would change his opinion influence him in any way? You're thinking of him as a man, we're talking about the supposed creator of everything.
User avatar #73 to #70 - satyrn (05/13/2012) [-]
It's funny trying to apply logic to a completely illogical concept.
User avatar #78 to #73 - unhappyspanners (05/13/2012) [-]
That's what I'm trying to say.
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