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#285 - philliyoMLB (04/25/2012) [-]
But didn't Lucifer 			*******		 hate humans and wanted them all killed?
But didn't Lucifer ******* hate humans and wanted them all killed?

#290 to #285 - tatordatot (04/25/2012) [-]
He didn't exactly hate them(us). God told all the angels to pretty much bow down to the humans as a superior race. Lucifer was an angel and didn't agree with that so god banished him. Sooo he didn't like us but he didn't hate us lol
User avatar #543 to #290 - kilonoa (04/26/2012) [-]
I thought god banished Lucifer because he envied Gods power?
User avatar #293 to #285 - YugiDork (04/25/2012) [-]
History is written by the victor
#16 - judson (04/25/2012) [-]
MFW I read the last few lines
#435 - SemiAnon (04/25/2012) [-]
>makes Batman joke
>everyone argues about religion
#686 - anon (04/26/2012) [-]
the last lines
#109 - alanthewhite (04/25/2012) [-]
**alanthewhite rolls 504,567,743**    
But, according to the Bible, if we die and have sinned during life, doesn't Satan   
**alanthewhite rolls 504,567,743**
But, according to the Bible, if we die and have sinned during life, doesn't Satan
#114 to #109 - darths (04/25/2012) [-]
Not always a bad thing, I bet the music is great down there.
#146 to #114 - saladtongsofdeath (04/25/2012) [-]
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#151 to #146 - darths (04/25/2012) [-]
Where do you suppose I look that up? Factcheck?
#170 to #151 - saladtongsofdeath (04/25/2012) [-]
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**saladtongsofdeath rolled a random image posted in comment #17 at Just My Bass Canon ** **** would i know? the bible maybe?, my college music professor brought it up to explain why the person who portrays satan screams instead of sing in hildegard von bingen's Ordo Virtutum
#173 to #170 - darths (04/25/2012) [-]
Unless you can provide me with a source to cite then I'll continue to assume the music kicks ass.
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#181 to #176 - darths (04/25/2012) [-]
Huh okay, sounds good to me.
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User avatar #120 to #114 - alanthewhite (04/25/2012) [-]
**alanthewhite rolls 818,951,222** And how is getting raped by Satan "not always a bad thing"?
User avatar #117 to #114 - alanthewhite (04/25/2012) [-]
**alanthewhite rolls 291,663,358** God would probably want all the best musicians for himself, so they'd probably be in Heaven.
#125 to #117 - darths (04/25/2012) [-]
True but Satan is the devil, he does what he wants, except declining rock battles.
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#771 - samthebassman (04/26/2012) [-]
You're wrong. Foosball is the devil
#48 - anon (04/25/2012) [-]
To be honest, I'd rather live in a garden naked with some hot chick and be happy for all eternity WITHOUT critical thinking skills than be stuck in a ****** apartment with no girlfriend and be miserable all the time, but be able to realize when something is ******** . Just my two cents.
User avatar #75 to #48 - Silver Quantum (04/25/2012) [-]
yes, living in a garden with only one woman for all eternity sounds extremely exciting! /endsarcasm. but seriously, regardless of how hot the chick is (assuming she's actually hot), how much time can you possibly expect to spend with her, doing the same things over and over again until the end of times, without getting bored and needing to experience new things in your life? yeah sure, your personality and perspectives about your environment wouldn't be as complex as they are now, so given those circumstances, how much do you really believe you would be enjoying your life?
User avatar #122 to #75 - TarnRazor (04/25/2012) [-]
The irony here is that your questions are critical thinking skills. See in heaven, you wouldn't have those.
User avatar #134 to #122 - Silver Quantum (04/25/2012) [-]
yeah I know. I was just asking him to weigh-in the options and reconsider whether he would actually want to spend an eternity being bored or not considering that NOW he does have a wider perspective (hopefully) about the concept of eternity.
#49 to #48 - justatest (04/25/2012) [-]
u would not exist, no apple no *******
#51 to #49 - anon (04/25/2012) [-]
Did... did you ever read the Bible?
#52 to #51 - justatest (04/25/2012) [-]
i don`t like fiction
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#74 to #52 - boocakeh (04/25/2012) [-]
nice one
#57 to #52 - larfang (04/25/2012) [-]
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#95 to #52 - anon (04/25/2012) [-]
if you never read the bible, don't talk like you know about the bible...you assume it's fiction from people with their own biases, why not go and prove or disprove your own like a critical thinker?
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#817 to #121 - kylejp (04/26/2012) [-]
why can you assume evolution is real , there is much more evidence of creation than evolution... life does not consist merely of chemicals, if that were true than mixing chemicals in a test tube would create life. A infinite creator (God) had to have created life. There are no natural laws that create specific complexity. The simplest life consists of amazing specific complexity- equivalent to 1000 sets of the encyclopedia, as Einstein said, God doesn't play dice with the universe, God plays scrabble! Spontaneous generation of life, which you, and evolutionists require to get the theory started, has never been observed. It is believed in by faith. Now you may say, but evolution has been observed just look at the Galapagos islands.. there are 2 types of evolution, micro and macro. micro evolution is one species adapting, like the birds in the island, has been observed and is more adaption than it is evolution. macro evolution on the other hand has not been observed, macro evolution says that everything that is living and breathing somehow spontaneously generated, without the work of a creator, was formed out of the slime.. There is no evidence on it, there for it takes a lot more faith to be a evolutionist than a Christian.
#720 to #52 - Greekkenyan (04/26/2012) [-]
Burn of the month so far haha
#772 to #52 - kylejp (04/26/2012) [-]
please explain to me why you think the bible is fiction
#887 to #772 - justatest (04/26/2012) [-]
talking snakes, women becoming salt, living in big fish, zombies... in what world that is not a fiction? **** man now i know why the pope does not let you read harry potter... cause you believe in every **** u read
#890 to #887 - kylejp (04/26/2012) [-]
can i ask you what you believe in?
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User avatar #666 - onkii (04/26/2012) [-]
He is the hero Gothem deserves
#690 to #666 - drmrniceguy (04/26/2012) [-]
Its funny cuz your post is THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST, 666!!!!
Its funny cuz your post is THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST, 666!!!!
#703 to #690 - feelythefeel (04/26/2012) [-]
The number of the beast is technically 616,
it was just changed in relatively recent culture.
#734 to #703 - drmrniceguy (04/26/2012) [-]
I SAY!   
I feel like I've been lied to my entire life


I feel like I've been lied to my entire life
#530 - jplok (04/26/2012) [-]
#282 - HarvietheDinkle (04/25/2012) [-]
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User avatar #283 to #282 - HarvietheDinkle (04/25/2012) [-]
"I'm not sure about this"
#85 - anon (04/25/2012) [-]
Did I just consider Satanism?
#504 - ColdBeets (04/26/2012) [-]
Everyone calm down, and just accept it.
#545 to #504 - swedishassassin (04/26/2012) [-]
I understand, and I will start by saying nothing is incorrect. It is however taken horribly out of context.

Please don't thumb me down for simply explaining my point, with no intention of 'shoving my beliefs on you' (In other words, respect a logical statement)

God gave us free will, which is why Satan can influence us in the first place. He allowed Satan to exist so that there could be free will; without him, there would be no other choice than God's choice, and He knows that. The tree was there to test us; why else would he put a tree there and say 'yeah, don't eat that'. If He truly didn't want us to have the option to eat it, he would have never made it.

The Devil doesn't have the power to take life without God's will to; if he could, he would destroy us all. God takes life, the Life that he gave us, when he has a reason. Most of those people would either have had their chance and fail or would go to Heaven early and spend eternity in unimaginable ecstasy; that ain't half bad.

Lastly, the biggest thing 'knowledge' has given us is the knowledge of power, which makes us kill and rape and murder and be greedy. So Satan's influence of knowledge is that of destruction.

Like I said, this is only meant to clarify; please respect my opinion as I respect yours.
#551 to #545 - ColdBeets (04/26/2012) [-]
No problem, you're free to have your own opinion as long as it doesn't involve eating babies or setting atheists on fire.
#553 to #551 - swedishassassin (04/26/2012) [-]
Thank-you, friend.
#589 to #545 - anon (04/26/2012) [-]
So why did he test us in first place? He surely must knew we would fail. Free will argument is invalid, because every parent knows his child enough to tell with certainity when it will or will not resist temptation. He then either isn't more omniscient than your ordinary soccer mom, or is not just to his children.

I mean, when Adam or Eve had no reason or knowledge, how could they forsee what would happen? They even did not have an experience of punishment or failure. It's like spoiling a child and then beating it for being spoiled.
User avatar #597 to #589 - swedishassassin (04/26/2012) [-]
He's know's, but will not interfere, since it IS free will. He wants people to love him because they want to; if He is to stop them any time they would sin, it ISN'T FREE WILL.

Ask me this with honesty; isn't it a great feeling when you're leaving somewhere and someone you care about begs you to stay or asks to come with you?
#619 to #597 - anon (04/26/2012) [-]
Yes, but because I worked hard on our relationship and now it pays off. God does absolutely nothing that cold uncaring atheist's universe couldn't do and just punishes us for not loving him.

He does not interfere? What about promise of heaven and threat of hell? What about flood he promised and then thought it over? How about all the judging, telling us what to do and sending disasters at as for not being good enough?
User avatar #633 to #619 - swedishassassin (04/26/2012) [-]
Yes, but it's you're choice to believe his words or not. You chose not to. You're proving my point.

It's not about being good enough. All you really have to do is accept He is your creator and that His son died for you. He has every right to Judge you, since His son (who is also Him) went through all the trials that a human does without fault.

And I'm sorry, but did cold, uncaring atheists create the Universe and life, or did I miss that?
#674 to #633 - anon (04/26/2012) [-]
When I want somebody to believe me I make arguments I know
he will find convincing. Or at least make sense.

Why would I accept he is my creator when
he does not make any convincing argument. My creator would say
something more like "You cannot enumerate ratio between circumference
and radius of a circle. But you'll find out yourself
sooner or later."
than "Earth is flat and stars are just a big wall. I know
this, and that means I'm creator of the universe. And by the
way, pi equals exactly three."
Thats a flat out lie, more likely to be a mistake made by some ancient
sand-dude than all-knowing creator.

Also if I try considering your point of view, try considering mine.
What does God actually does for you that uncaring universe does not
for atheist?
User avatar #680 to #674 - swedishassassin (04/26/2012) [-]
Gives me a reason beyond logic.

Honestly, if we were to think only with logic, we would all come to the conclusion that we should all get together, have a massive orgy, and then at the moment of climax, shoot each other in the head, with the most pleasurable moment being your last.

Yet something makes you continue with suffering that only results in death. Why?
#695 to #680 - anon (04/26/2012) [-]

Your flesh will live on in your children and your mind in all minds you ever touched.
User avatar #698 to #695 - swedishassassin (04/26/2012) [-]
Survival is meaningless. It only results in the eventual extinction. With logic, it is better to end it now than in involuntary pain.
#715 to #698 - anon (04/26/2012) [-]
Why do you think it does? Sun and Earth will die eventually, but will we be still bound to it in several bilion years? Will we still be bound to flesh? Also, with logic, you never know what is better. Thats philosphy. Pain is meaningless relict of our older selves that stronger minds eventually learn to overcome.
User avatar #725 to #715 - swedishassassin (04/26/2012) [-]
No, the Universe will die. Eventually, there is an end. Survival is a pointless struggle.

And with the 'bound to flesh', it sounds like you do believe in God.
#769 to #725 - anon (04/26/2012) [-]
Also, death of the universe revolves around black holes and gravity, we still know total **** about.
#760 to #725 - anon (04/26/2012) [-]
Not God, just us. Capable of bending flesh and machines to our will.(We do both now, but we still suck at it) . Also there is no real authority on whether universe really dies. It is just a prediction based on the Standard model (which is really good aproximation of how universe works, but it has it known holes).

And even would we fail either because of our ineptness or setting of our universe, it is still worth a try. We used to think that planets can travel only in circles. It is still worth to try in case we got something wrong. What do we risk? Also, life and ability to think is pretty short opportunity to waste because of formalities like pain. And even when faced with choice "being tortured to death for days" or "shot in the head now", remember that it is possible to enjoy pain, so why not give it a try? Some dying would switch these few more days of mild discomfort with you just so they could be some more.

So when basicaly, when you ask "why live?" i reply "why not?"
User avatar #881 to #760 - swedishassassin (04/26/2012) [-]
I reply with what I said. There is nothing to gain but loss. There is nothing that is to gain but your eventual death, along with watching those you love around you die. All attempts of Joy are in vain, and your last moments in life are that of uncontrollable fear that there is nothing there when you die, which is what Hell truly is.
#900 to #881 - anon (04/28/2012) [-]
Only if you choose the fear. Every second of your life is a gain compared to nonexistence. Pain is more comfortable than coma. Atheist do not fear non-permanence as they do not really think, there actually are permanent things. Joy have already happened when you had it. If you believe in infinite Joy and compare it to the real one, you will be disappointed no matter what.
User avatar #902 to #900 - swedishassassin (04/28/2012) [-]
How is pain more comfortable than coma? You do not 'feel' the coma since you are in one. So why is it such a fear to the human mind. It is of everything out of place with how the rest of the world works.
#906 to #902 - anon (04/29/2012) [-]
It is terrible, because I am not thinking at that moment. From my point of view, there is eternity you are unthinking mass, insanely short window of existence, and then again, the void. I say, however the terrible pain may be, enjoy it while it lasts. You won't have the chance to savour it again.

Also, you don't really ever die as far as last of mankind draws breath, but thats complex idea of mine, that may or may not make really sense.
User avatar #909 to #906 - swedishassassin (04/30/2012) [-]
Correct, you're not thinking. So how can you be aware of that suffering by any conventional means? You cannot; yet you fear it more than death.
#910 to #909 - anon (04/30/2012) [-]
That is what I am trying to tell you. I care not for suffering. I had fair share of it and I learned to accept it, control it and sometimes even enjoy it. Also, fear is animal emotion and not exactly what I feel when confronted with nonexistence. It's just most undesirable of all things and I would very much love to avoid it. Survive at all cost is most reasonable, as when I do exist, I can always choose to stop existing, whereas when I do not exist I have no choice whatsoever. And being unsure of most things, I like to keep my choices as open as they can be just in case I would be wrong.
User avatar #911 to #910 - swedishassassin (05/01/2012) [-]
I understand man! But what I'm trying to come to is that 'preference' doesn't exist when you don't exist. I understand you don't believe in the Bible, but there is universal wisdom in the book of Ecclesiastes when it is said '....better is the man that is dead than the living.... better is the man who never existed.'

It's true, and using logic, there is much more suffering than joy in life, yet we come to the assessment that life is a more preferable choice than death, for some truly illogical reason.
#912 to #911 - anon (05/01/2012) [-]
Well, that is an interesting question even from biblical point of view. For instance, lust. Would you castrate yourself, you would lose "preference" for ******* and help yourself from lust. It also would be okay from Jesus's "If body part makes you sin, cut it off". But would quite contradict the whole Old Testamental "I made you in my image, your body is so perfect, even tatooing is a sin".

But from my point of view, the preference is logical, not that of flesh. I know "the dead have no more reward" but I, the living have. And what does differ me from animals is my capability of imagining my future and my surroundings. I know that I myself would be disinterested in what is happening, but I right now would be disgusted by the ignorance of that future self. And I would be sad to see all my indulgences end. Stopping all my perception of this beautiful world. I know it is inevitable, but still, I will have all the eternity to be dead and only a very short time to be alive. So what's the rush to die?

Also I think you are missing the point about suffering. Or most of the Abrahamites do.(Not meant as offence.) When promised infinite joy in hereafter, any earthly Joy fades in comparison. But try to wear my skin and have no infinite happiness in front of you. You are young white male with enough free time to argue on the internet. What suffering do you know to be worse than all the joy you are provided? Did you count your blessings lately?
User avatar #882 to #881 - swedishassassin (04/26/2012) [-]
Black Holes? It's mysteries? It's a concentrated point of mass collected that crushes anything sucked into it. I thought you were trying to be scientific.
#901 to #882 - anon (04/28/2012) [-]
Scientific method is all about skepticism. My sandwich is mysterious. Black holes are bloody unknown. Explain the extragalctical jets, or tell me whether black hole rotates, radiates some kind of black body radiation and so on. There is so much we don't know. They are easy to imagine, but they are nothing more than mathematical constructs.

Also, for a black hole from our point of view is most important its ability to bend time-space. We do not have slightest idea how that happens. Or to be more exact, we have too many and can't meaningfully tell which is correct.
User avatar #913 to #901 - swedishassassin (05/01/2012) [-]
This answers your most recent one, since it has a reply limit.

You do have a point, in which I think concludes with us saying we agree to disagree. No, my suffering is not as bad as, say, someone who went through a concentration camp. I'd rather want to say that in all senses, any Joy ends in its termination.

You're right though; I have a heaven I'm comparing life to, whilst you aren't. This said, there is nothing more that can be argued with this having been identified. With these two different perspectives, we will of no doubt keep our own conclusions. Thanks again for a civil argument on the internet. They're hard to come by.
#915 to #913 - anon (05/05/2012) [-]
I did not see this one. Was almost sad you forgot me. Thank you for being civil and constructive. I really had to think a lot about myself because of you, for which I am equally thankful. It might be better to end this in it's best, but if you are interested, there are still untied ends in our argument.

For instance, this whole branch revolved around, whether it is plausible to wish live without god and faith. Which I hope I proved. Now you tell me, how you can believe in God taking in account things mentioned earlier (ctrl+F: "674"). How can you be so sure of it as to build your own inner world around it? Did doubt never crossed your mind?
User avatar #904 to #901 - swedishassassin (04/28/2012) [-]
Although, I am very thankful you are very respectful whilst debating; moreover, you haven't started a 'one thumb down' war with me either. Thank you; you have my respect.
#907 to #904 - anon (04/29/2012) [-]
As I am thankful to you for being able to put up with my crap so far. :)
User avatar #903 to #901 - swedishassassin (04/28/2012) [-]
It's a fixated point of mass. It's so massive on one point that time and space will bend. It does not equal Space travel.
#908 to #903 - anon (04/29/2012) [-]
I never said it does. I tried to say, that we do not know enough to be sure of our doom. And that is why should never stop trying to survive.

Also, we do not really know how gravity works, or what spacetime really is. (Or at least, there are few pretty solid questions we cannot answer concerning the nature of gravity and spacetime.)
#467 - duchessofcorn (04/26/2012) [-]
**duchessofcorn rolled a random image posted in comment #28 at OP must have! ** Who were the people he killed in the bible ._.
#478 to #467 - anon (04/26/2012) [-]
that roll made my day.
User avatar #444 - MyMomTookMyXbox (04/25/2012) [-]
As a sophomore who goes to a strictly catholic high school, and is my job to study and read the bible, would say its all about interpretation, every single case provided to not say the devil is a dick head can be countered,for example, if Adam and eve did not eat the apple we wouldn't give a single **** what any one would think about us, we would walk around naked and not be judged, that is a world I would like to live in,,,, a rant by someone who questions his religion, thankyou
#448 to #444 - anon (04/25/2012) [-]
you want us to all be running around naked?
#452 to #448 - anon (04/25/2012) [-]
You just proved his point. Thank you.
You just proved his point. Thank you.
#475 to #448 - negritude (04/26/2012) [-]
ya itd be awsome except we'd be brainless idiots
ya itd be awsome except we'd be brainless idiots
#696 to #475 - raidertrolls (04/26/2012) [-]
but you wouldn't know you were a brainless idiot
but you wouldn't know you were a brainless idiot
User avatar #483 to #475 - bbboy (04/26/2012) [-]
but what about ALL THE SEX
User avatar #492 to #483 - negritude (04/26/2012) [-]
thats why im half and half
User avatar #489 to #475 - anotherjoenobody (04/26/2012) [-]
but we'd all be to happy to care.
User avatar #497 to #489 - negritude (04/26/2012) [-]
i don find ignorance bliss id rather know
User avatar #507 to #497 - anotherjoenobody (04/26/2012) [-]
[infinite food, peace, health, sex, protection] > [knowledge]

User avatar #526 to #507 - negritude (04/26/2012) [-]
thats just the way i feel but i do see ur point as valid
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User avatar #454 to #444 - allinall (04/26/2012) [-]
I'm a sophomore in a Catholic High School too....... weird.... My religion teacher turned me into an agnostic
#455 to #444 - anon (04/26/2012) [-]
If they didn't eat the apple in the first place, then we wouldn't even be here.
User avatar #462 to #455 - DrBobsPatient (04/26/2012) [-]
do explain anon...
User avatar #693 to #462 - thedoctorswife (04/26/2012) [-]
The anon is right. When Adam and eve got kicked out of the garden, they realized that they they were getting older and needed to reproduce. They had no need for that in the garden. The devil kickstarted all that.
User avatar #700 to #693 - DrBobsPatient (04/26/2012) [-]
where does it say that they realized they were getting older and needed to reproduce? if everything they needed was in that garden, why did they feel like they had no need for it?
User avatar #709 to #700 - thedoctorswife (04/26/2012) [-]
The got kicked out of the garden because they disobeyed God so they had to support themselves.and I guess once they realized they had freedom of thought, they became attracted to each other and had sex
User avatar #712 to #709 - DrBobsPatient (04/26/2012) [-]
well they were attracted to each other in the garden before and most likely would've had sex prior to getting kicked out anyway.
User avatar #716 to #712 - thedoctorswife (04/26/2012) [-]
It never said that. They didn't have the thought pattern yet. There was no reason for them to reproduce so they wouldn't have
User avatar #722 to #716 - DrBobsPatient (04/26/2012) [-]
it's not like they were immortal... and plus, they probably were going off of animal instinct/behavior anyhow and it's just biology to reproduce, so they probably would have with or without eating the fruit.
User avatar #740 to #722 - thedoctorswife (04/26/2012) [-]
So? No, the fruit from the tree made them conscience of their nakedness and gave them thoughts they wouldn't have normally had. Yes it is biology to reproduce, but you see back then, There. Was. No. Point. They didn't know they had to keep their species going because they didn't have any idea
User avatar #750 to #740 - DrBobsPatient (04/26/2012) [-]
yeah but do you think adam and eve were the only species alive? no. and it's not like they taught all the other animals how to breed and reproduce. do you think a pig is aware that in order for its species to continue surviving it needs to reproduce, or do you think it's in the innate animal behavior to reproduce?
User avatar #765 to #750 - thedoctorswife (04/26/2012) [-]
Well of course not, man was made after animals. Both of those basically mean the same thing. Animals found out the same way we did that we needed to reproduce. What I don't think you're understanding is that humans basically had no thought complex. After eating the fruit they did. The animals didn't eat it, so the need to reproduce just sort of developed
User avatar #785 to #765 - DrBobsPatient (04/26/2012) [-]
prior to eating the fruit they were no different from animals and were only acting on animal instinct/behavior. it wasn't until after they ate the fruit when they became aware of themselves and their surroundings. it's not like they were brainless before, they just were simply acting off of internal and external stimuli instead of thought/reason.
#830 to #785 - qwertt (04/26/2012) [-]
ACTUALLY, thenchurch has officially accepted thentheory of evolution, and use the story of adam and eve to teach us a lesson. There fore we would be here no matter if she ate the apple or not
User avatar #836 to #830 - DrBobsPatient (04/26/2012) [-]
ACTUALLY, that only means that we were ape-like creatures in the beginning and the free will/apple eating event is what gave us the mental awareness and what separates us from all the other animals.

as well as scientists accept the big bang theory.

you need both.
#840 to #836 - qwertt (04/26/2012) [-]
Nomthe church basically said that the adam and eve story isnt true, its just a story
User avatar #849 to #840 - DrBobsPatient (04/26/2012) [-]
they believe they weren't actually the first and only "people" on the planet, and there was no adam, and there was no eve, but like i said before, they were the first beings to develop the mental awareness for whatever the reason might have been as well as why they were the only species to develop that mental adaptation instead of other species being able to do so as years passed.
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#613 to #444 - zicamox (04/26/2012) [-]
Questioning your religion? Ah, a logical Catholic. Or as I like to call them, a future Atheist.
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